Well? What's the absolute king?Battle Toads?Holy Diver?Silver Surfer?
The most difficult what
Silver Surfer is not a hard game, it's not even close to as tough as Starship Hector or Star Force.
>>12466604>Silver Surfer is not a hard gameYes it is, you turbo contrarian.
Holy Diver's eaten inputs make it unplayable. It gets my vote for most bullshit fake difficulty.
>>12466591Super Monkey Daibouken
I've beaten close to 400 NES/FC games. Battletoads and Silver Surfer are nothing.Hardest I've beaten>Adventure Island>Kung Fu Heroes Games I never beat despite trying because they were that fucking hard>Micro Machines>Adventure of Lolo 3I never beat Holy Diver but I didn't try very hard. I couldn't beat the final course of Motocross Champion even though I did try hard. Snake Rattle'Roll seems challenging too. Several Tradewest/Rare games still scare me as well.
>>12466795>Adventure IslandBe honestWith or without the continue bee?
>>12466591Holy Diver and Silver Surfer? Can you mention more bullshit meme 'its so hard!' games please? These are the games people mention who don't actually play difficult NES games they just hear about them from other people and never actually check. Try some actual hard shit. Adventure Island. Solomon's Key. Ikari Warriors.
>>12466801It's one of the hardest games on the system WITH continues. All the playthroughs on youtube suspiciously look like TASes hence they don't die and keep weapons between levels so they don't have to actually engage with the hard parts.
TheMexicanRunner who has beaten every NES game said that Battletoads is his favorite game. Not hardest, but favorite. I'm pretty sure the actual hardest is some shitass RPG that nobody cares about.
>>12466630Oh i see what you did there...Cheeky.I wonder if there are 10 inches behind that post...Maybe if i was paid i could've figured out by now...--------Hear me out guys... That game is legit hard. Not the hardest, but it's up there.
>>12466810Never got that far, is it actually possible to avoid the eggplant?
>>12466847The eggplant can probably be avoided but it's very tricky. The real "fuck you" isn't the eggplant but the item at the end of the video: that is supposed to be a full meter refill item (which nullifies the entire eggplant thing, see this webm) but there is a small chance you'll get this giant nothingburger in its place thus guaranteeing a death if you did trigger the eggplant. There are a few "fuck you" item drops like this in the game (at least 2 that I know of) which further tells me the YT "longplays" that don't die are bullshit because you don't just need skill and remembering the entire game, you also need luck.
>>12466830He played Battletoads really early in his run and beat it in under 40 minutes. Also yeah he hates RPGs and many of his RPG playthroughs are real slogs that go on forever.>>12466604His time for Silver Surfer was 2:54. Starship Hector was 2:52 (so two minutes less than SS) and Star Force was, wow, 9:42. I told you Star Force was rough. Play the Famicom version instead, it's not quite as bad.
>>12466795TMR took 29 hours and three videos to beat Lolo 3. That game is not nice to you.
>>12467329Grand Poo Bear took 8:30 to beat Silver Surfer, and 18:30 to beat Battletoads.Maybe using youtubers isn't a reliable measurement method, let alone a single youtuber.
>>12467339idk he beat Rescue Rangers in, what, 15 minutes? the game wasn't nearly that easy when i tried it.
>>12467329too bad that the way NESMania worked is that his viewers got to vote and select what game he played next (one rule was RPGs could only be picked every five games) and so they naturally claimed a lot of the well-known AAA titles early in the run and much of his later run was sports games and assorted shovelware.
I took pride in beating Kung Fu and that was just a short little NROM game. Not as easy as it looks.
Championship Loderunner
>>12466591What is The Adventures of Bayou Billy?
>>12466591NES Tetris took 34 years to beat.
>>12467363Reaching a kill screen is not beating the game. It's a hardware limitation.
>>12467352>>12467363TMR's Tetris time was 11:09 but he had different win conditions for A and B mode (get 120k points or beat level 9-5). For games without an actual ending like this one he had to set arbitrary win conditions.
Mega man games in general are fucking difficult. I haven't beaten a single NES mega man game because of its bullshit difficulty.
>>12467376I beat MM1 used the Pause glitch, don't care. Sue me.
>>12467379k now beat it without that.
>>12467363winnerthe first maxout took 20 years so it still wins
If you launched Red Square into space, you beat Tetris.
>>12467379i checked TMR's Mega Man 1 playthrough yeah he did use the pause glitch on the Yellow Devil. he beat it in exactly one hour but my best time is 1:30.
If you booted up the game, you beat Tetris.
>>12467365Type B 19-5 took 31 years to beat.
the later Mega Man games aren't that hard for one thing they have a password save so you don't need to beat the whole thing in one sitting
>>12466591Loderunner is underrepresented in this topic, it's arguably the hardest game on the nes.
>>12466795>Snake Rattle'RollIt's a decent challenge, but the filter is the final boss. He marches around in a circle, and will insta-kill you if he hits you. You need to hit him with perfect consecutive hits 20 times in a row to beat him. If you are a split second late in hitting him, he automatically heals back to full health.Excluding puzzle games like Lolo 3, Solomon's Key, Milon's Secret Castle, Wrecking Crew, etc, I would vote for the Golgo 13 games, that crappy Dragon's Lair port, or Deadly Towers. Best of luck to anyone trying to beat those games. Special mention to Who Framed Roger Rabbit just because of how bullshit the final boss fight is, and the pure amount of bullshit you need to go through just to get to that point in the first place.
>>12466591What is Solomon's Key?>YOU WIN!I know.
>>12467409Roger Rabbit is tough I agree.
>>12467363The obvious answer
>>12467407I wouldn't call it that bad. Especially because the NES version has only 50 levels while the computer ones have 150.
Adventure Island IS tough, but it's the easiest toughest game. -t. beaten Adventure Island without keeping the stone axe/fireballs. Proptip: the fireballs destroy the rock obstacles, most anons don't know that.
>>12467409Snake Rattle 'n Roll is not that hard.>Milon's Secret CastlePretty hard.>Lolo 3This earns its rep as one of the most pitiless NES games.>Wrecking CrewThis one is tough.>Golgo 13Agreed.>Solomon's KeyPretty hard, still not the worst though.>Dragon's LairModerately tough.>Deadly TowersThat one is pretty mean.
Abadox
>>12466604This. Star Force is asshole spreading, especially US version.
>>12467376Only bullshit is that crash bomb "boss" in the last stage of 2. Yellow devil is just learning to do short and long jumps
>>12467683never understood that eitherjust learn the right timing, it's not any harder than what the game threw at you beforewhat I could never figure out was the mirror boss fight, only ever beat him with the select trick
>>12466591Athena
>>12467420>wrecking crewIs that difficulty based on just beating each stage, or starting at level 1 and beating the entire game without being sent back to the title screen?
>>12467691I think i always just rushed fake mega aggressively and out shot him before he could me.
>>12466604What about Star Soldier? That game should be right up there with them. It's amazing though, true underrated classic.
>>12466591Karnov
>>12466795Snake Rattle n' Roll isn't that bad once you get used to the controls.>>12467409The final boss in SRnR is more annoying than difficult. It's hard to kill, but doesn't really pose an especially large threat.I've beaten Golgo 13: Top Secret Episode and Deadly Towers. Golgo is fairly tough in general. Deadly Towers is mostly hard to figure out how to navigate, since the dungeons are huge and loop at certain points. Legacy of the Wizard is similar in that the enemies aren't really a huge deal, but figuring out how to complete the game is very hard, and doing things in a sub-optimal order can make the last two bosses tricky to deal with.
fucking bull man, Flash carts don't support that one Bandai mapper that a bunch of Famicom DBZ games used
>>12467325Game is basically a kaizo hack of Wonder Boy.
https://nescartdb.com/profile/view/235/deadly-towersDeveloped by Lenar. They were fans of using some oddball mapper setups. DT is their only game to appear in the US though.
>>12466591Final Mission, it's basically Contra meets Gradiushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emFr5OX0kDM
>>12466595ESL detected
>>12466591NES Tetris is one of the most unforgiving versions of the game
>>12466810Yeah, I would 100% ragequit this game at some point. That doesn't even look remotely fun
>>12466810This looks like something you'd rage at but eventually memorize after an hour of grinding it out. Kind of like a Kaizo Mario hack.
Cosmic Wars. Battles can literally take hours to get through. Konami really loved trying game designs on the Famicom that were way too ambitious and could never really do what they wanted the game to do.
>>12467361>"I hope you kept the receipt."
>>12467363Daily reminder Nintendo Tetris sucks.This is the real GOAT.
>>12468101Battles in Cosmic Wars take forever, but the game isn't particularly difficult.
>>12465365Desert Commander fortunately has an incredibly simple, braindead AI so battles take like 10 seconds at most.
>>12466795>Adventure Island>HardReally? Of all the shit you could tried to bait us with, that is what you came up with?
>>12468101Mission: Impossible was another one where they were trying to make an epic action-adventure that didn't entirely work.
>>12468101I seem to think American devs were pretty bad at that, Imagineering especially tried stuff that was too ambitious for the NES.
>>12468101it has a translation patch for the game itself but i don't think the manual has been translated and without that you won't know what to do because there's a lot of units with various capabilities and none of it is intuitive
>>12468216based tengen tetris appreciator
>ctrl+f>recca>zero results
Might & Magic is easily one of the toughest RPGs on the system.
Ikari Warriors will always be the hardest. It's nearly an hour long with extremely limited tries. Your average game lasts 30 seconds. Without cheating you need to progress through nearly an hour of that bullshit executing peak ability to scout out the next 30 seconds of gameplay ahead of wherever your current pb is. Easily over 100 hours of complete frustration to learn without abba cheats.
>>12468440Me and my brother were playing Ikari Warriors once, I don't know if we triggered a glitch or a code we didn’t know but either way we stopped taking damage. But then we also weren't careful to keep getting ammo so it ended up that the enemies couldn't hit us but we couldn't kill them either. We traded the controller back and forth a couple times as we just walked endlessly like that for a while then got bored and turned it off. I don't know about my brother but I don't think I ever played it again.
>>12468352Well, kinda, but the thing is Might & Magic is only start at the start. The first hour is a nightmare then it gradually becomes easier and easier until you become a GOD.I'd consider Deep Dungeon 3 and Shinsenden harder on account that they remain challenging throughout>>12468101It's long, like CRAZY long, but I don't think it's that hard. Strategy games on Famicom never are on account of enemy AI being poor.>>12468274There you gottps://gradius.fandom.com/wiki/Cosmic_Warshttp://home.a00.itscom.net/ka-yama/sgr/helter/cosmic/kantai.htmlStill I agree it's annoying that the same unit type between the 2 factions has different graphics, you have to learn everything twice
>>12467893In you? Yeah maybe. The text in the Jeopardy clue is incorrectly phrased, possibly because the person generating it wanted to be playful. Anon was riffing off of that.
How are you people having so much trouble with Lolo??!?
All NES games are hard as balls
>>12468647>All NES games are hard as ballsNah, a decent amount of late NES games (1991+) are pretty easy actually
Probably not the hardest, but how would you rank Spelunker?
>>12468660late ones are mostly casual stuff for 6-10 year olds
>>12467581Try Barbarossa on SNES if you like this kind of game. The AI takes like an hour to complete its turns. This game needs a FastROM patch, it would (very slightly) help.
>>12468604lolo 3 is on a completely different level than 1 and 2, which any person of average intelligence could beat with a little perserverance
>>12468772i'd rate it along with Lode Runner and Famicom Maniac Mansion as proof that Japanese don't "get" Western vidya and shouldn't try to port them.
I think the Digital Devil Taisen games were pretty bad?
>>12466591Quest of Ki
>>12467363Why does this version of Tetris always make boomers on this site seethe? It easily has the highest skill ceiling by far. The requirements for console rebirth are ridiculous.
>>12469220extreme jealousy and insecurity of zoomers shitting on them since 2018
>>12468647None of the first party games are that difficult.
>>12468647Play Dynowarz.
>>12468772Not particularly difficult.
>>12469213They're somewhat challenging as Famicom RPGs but far from the hardests RPGs I've played on Famicom. 2 in particular can be broken easily thanks to buffs/debuffs that can cripple every boss and the fact that reviving a fallen ally completely restores his MP; meaning that if you have 2 different demons with a reviving spell you now have an infinite MP pool and also the fact that gems that can be traded for very powerful items respawn once you used them onions ou can reacquire them over and over
>>12469247One reason is the controls and physics on the first party games are usually far better than many third party games, especially from the early years.
wouldn't recommend any Koei strategy games, that's for sure
>>12467420How do you even get past level 2 on Solomon's Key? It's too demanding.
>>12466847Yes, if you shoot down the enemies.I managed to beat Adventure Island but only because I had it on a 256-in-one famiclone so I could basically play it from any level with any powerup combo.
>>12466830He made Adventure Island look relatively easy, beat it in just 1:09.
>>12467325The boss is alright, but that spider + frog combo is absolutely diabolicalI'd fuck up a bunch there. Mostly because there's a second frog adding to my cognitive load
Transformers: Comvoy no Nazo. Ugghh.
>>12469457If we're doing Famicom as well, then Takashi's Challenge, that Lupin the 3rd game, and Paris Dakar Rally.
>>12469457>>12469438There was that whole run of 1986 CNROM platformers like AI, Transformers, and Atlantis no Nazo that are notorious for being unbelievably cheap and brutal.
>>12468101especially in 87-89 developers were trying to push the envelope even if in a lot of cases their ambitions overran what the Famicom was capable of
>>12469457I absolutely hated how that was the only classic Transformers game available until way into the PS3-360 era. G.I.Joe had some decent NES games and a fun arcade title but G1 Transformers really got screwed when it came to retro games
>>12469508There was another more obscure FDS Transformers game but it's not much better than Comvoy no Nazo. The C64 had a Transformers game as well but it seems like mostly a tech demo for the speech synthesis intro sequence.
>>12469216Definitely up there, yeah. I don't know how the fuck the devs expected people to beat that game without savestates. Requiring precision movement and perfectly-timed avoiding with slow, floaty physics is absolutely retarded. Even moreso in the extra levels.
>>12469468Takeshi's Challenge isn't even difficult, just intentionally dumb and convoluted to piss off the player.
>>12466830I'll always put Battletoads as the hardest simply because it changes playstyles every stage and basically requires you to master 12 completely different levels to beat the game. No level in particular is really harder than what you might find in a typical NES game but to beat it you are forced to constantly adapt and adjust to different challenges to reach the end. Other games may be technically harder but Battletoads is the one that requires the most overall skill to complete
>>12467363tetris is heavily known to be bugged, right down to the exact bytes of machine code responsible for it, so this kid is full of shit and i admire his brass balls for it
playing Deadly Towers is the literal videogame equivalent of a schizophrenic breakI've beaten Battletoads, it's not all that hard once you master the cycle and the fucking rat
>>12469696>playing Deadly Towers is the literal videogame equivalent of a schizophrenic breakRead the manual, it's important or you won't know what to do.
>>12469695>this kid is full of shitNot sure what you mean. The goal was crashing the game via killscreen on a real NES console. Beating the game was what the news outlets rebranded it as
>>12469720prove it faggot
>>12469696Deadly Towers has afaik 160 rooms per dungeon. Added up that's at least 1,600 rooms total.
>>12469724he recorded himself doing it and uploaded it to his chanelhe made national news for it and has his own documentary before graduating from high schoolall the official game crashers got certificates and were congratulated by alexey pajitnovno other nes game compares
>>12469736>just how big a game can you fit in a 1 megabit cartridge? find out next.
>>12469737Alex T my man
>>12469739The game came out in Japan at the end of 86 it was one of the first 1 megabit Famicom games released and they must have been thrilled at all that space and got a little carried away.
>>12469526It's basically the Nintendo World Championships, but as all new games.
>>12469737i said prove it faggot
>>12469754>can't read>immediately seethesmany such cases
