>advances the Metroidvania genre forward by 25 yearsThis is low key the most influential videogame of the last 30 years. If this one thing didn't exist we would have no >Shadow of the Colossus>Hollow Knight>Dark Souls>Breath of the Wild
>>12484251What did this one in specific do that SotN didn't already? Genuinely curious about your reasoning.
>>12484251Man I seen some dumb shit before but this is just braptastic.
stealing that ^
>>12484251I've only played Dawn of Sorrow, but I liked it a lot.
>>12484251the souls were a cool mechanic but like most of the time with these collectathons 95% of them are useless. also the final boss was fucking godawful. so was going through that colorless chaos world or whatever the fuck it's called. castlevania endgames are always a crap shoot.
>>12484253Actual Sub weapons
FUCK EVERY IGAVANIACLASSICVANIA FOR LIFE
Sorry but we are in the Netflixvania era nowClassic, Igavania and GoWclone castlevanias are deadEven classicfags would prefer the vania era back
>>12485416>Capcom is allowing this fucking slop>Circle of the Moon is non-canon>Nathan Graves is non-canonfuck all piss shit ass
>>12485429I hope this doesn't happen to Capcom's other legacy series like Contra and Gradius
>>12485429learn to live a little anon. not everything is made for you
>>12484251The first good Castlevania by IGA.
>>12485429>CapcomLol.But yeah, think about it another way: whatever shit happens to the series from now on CotM got no relation to this bullshit.
>>12485506oh right, it's konami. alright yeah this makes perfect sense. they ruin everything else they touch too
>>12485503It only needed Curry (RIP) and some staff from Kobe taking over to become okay/good.
>>12486007>Curry (RIP)Yep. Carried IGA's ass from Aria to Bloodstained. Quite unlike Inti who fucked over Inafune with MN9 under similar circumstances.>and some staff from KobeReally? Never heard that part, but it sure would explain it as well, even if I don't feel like it is their style exactly.
>>12485529You're deeply retarded
>>12484253It's low effort bait.
>>12487661No that'd be Konami, whom unveiled a fucking MGS3 pachinko machine before even considering a remake. Not to mention driving out Kojima.
>>12487667>Derailing the thread after you made a braindead mistake
>>12487667>Not to mention driving out Kojima.That one was well deserved. The last cool thing he did at the time was Boktai and even that was getting old.Also, he was the one we have to thank for Lords of Shadow.
>>12487672Funny because I don't see you talking about Circle of the Moon, just focusing on the misremembering of who owns an intellectual property.
>>12487676>Also, he was the one we have to thank for Lords of Shadow.Zobek was based and did nothing wrong.
>>12487657>Really?CotM's director did map design for PoR and OeE, also DoS has half of its soundtrack done by the CV64 composer.
>Metroidvania genrefuck offffffffffff
whats THE metroidvania of castlevania?
>>12485416was talking about castlevania and zoomer coworked piped in with "oh the netflix show"?extremely grim
This game SHOULD have moved the genre forward and codified how the format would be executed in 3D for years to come, yet it's basically a flash in the pan. Tragic. I don't know what was so fucking hard that Konami couldn't lift the 3D map concept wholesale just like they did 2D Metroid.
>>12485416Before Netflixvania Konami was only planning to make pachinkovanias
>>12488090Simon's Quest (Vampire Killer isn't quite there yet, it needed Goonies II and Maze of Galious DNA in it too)
>>12488338Pachivanias are KINO thougheverbeit. They made even LoS good.Don't tell me you couldn't handle Erotic Violence?
>>12488338KEK
>>12488324It doesn't move it forward because it's not the same genre. If you want 2D Metroid, you don't play a 3D one. This is like saying Ace Combat moved the shmup genre forward.
>>12488697Space Harrier did.
>>12488701Space Harrier is ass and didn't even pioneer that style of shooter
>>12488697That's weird, because I've been on a binge that started with 2D Metroid and is culminating with a 3D one, and I'm enjoying it in a very similar fashion. Does your pedantry have a point? Is it>hurr don't talk about a 3D Metroidvania in a Metroidvania threadCry about it. I want to post about how 3D Metroidvania is a woefully underutilized format, and Konami/Igarashi dropped the ball not ripping off its map style for their 3D games he same way they ripped off 2D Metroid's. LoI should've had a 3D map and levels designed accordingly instead of the limiting top-down one it got.
>>12489017You're putting words in my mouth, retard. You said genre, which goes beyond Metroid itself. Now you're switching the conversation to just the Metroid series. Prime is a Metroid game, yes. It is not a Metroidvania. Just as the 3D Castlevanias aren't. If you can't understand that distinction, that's on you. None of this has anything to do with the quality of said games. You're chasing fucking windmills.
>>12489114>Metroid Prime isn't a metroidvania Retard>Just as the 3D Castlevanias aren'tYeah, they're glorified beat-em-ups that don't even try to encapsulate the tropes of a metroidvania, and they're worse for it. They're formatted completely different from the 2D games or Prime and now you're inventing irrelevant talking points. Do you come on here to gatekeep discussion over innocuous posts people make on a given subject and play rent-a-mod to threads you're in? Get a fucking life.
>>12489262At no point have I told you what you can or cannot post. That's completely in your head. You're being deliberately obtuse, and I'm fucking stupid for having engaged with you at all.
>>12489269So then tell me what the point was of your chiming in that Metroid Prime "isn't a metroidvania" (still retarded) if not to shut down prospective discussion on the topic in this given thread? What was the point of your replying at all, just trying to be smarmy and sound cute? I hope that last part means you're done replying because you're right, you shouldn't have posted your dumb shit to begin with.
>>12484251Deus Ex: Invisible War was more influential>pioneered gravity gun (strength aug)>pioneered lgbt representation in mainstream games>predicted vtubers>invented consolization
>>12489269Face it. He blew you the fuck out.
>>12485416>Netflixvania Didn't they make Alucard literally take a cock up his ass in that shitty show? Fuck this shit.