Why is it always Super Metroid fanboys that have the worst fucking taste imaginable?Shitty subpar action and platforming, zero stakes or challenge with pisseasy enemies and hazards that don't even pose the slightest threat, one-dimensional bosses, bland and copy-pasted stages, and 90% of the game is spent slowly inspecting every single tile of every room, but it's a masterpiece btwI don't even hate Super Metroid, but holy fuck is it massively overrated by insufferable retards.How is this considered one of the greatest games of all time? Maybe just because it's more braindead and shallow with focus on production values above all, which is clearly what zoomers and moviegamers like? It's okay to be a cinematic babygamer retard who thinks Super Metroid is a masterpiece, but don't get a fucking ego about it.
>universally beloved game is actually bad mkayYawwwwwwn
have you considered posting about a game you actually like instead of whining about the ones you don't so we can have an actual good topic instead
>>12505889No one said it was bad retard, just that it's massively overrated and its fanboys are insufferable retards with universally terrible taste
Why is it shmup players have the worst taste possible. We get it, you think we don't know that memorizing stages isn't actually that impressive. It's okay to be impressed by flashing lights but don't get a fucking ego about it jeez.
>>12505902Are you in the right thread, ma'am?
>>12505880Why is it always DOOM fanboys that have the worst fucking taste imaginable.You can't even fucking aim up or down! It's just some cinematic shit for edgy 7 year olds that think Darth Vader is cool.It's okay to think it's some masterpiece, but don't get a fucking ego about it.
>>12505880>How is this considered one of the greatest games of all time?That's pure revisionism from zoomers; the truth is that Super Metroid was fairly disappointing to Metroid fans back then, and it quickly entered the bargain bin. Then Donkey Kong Country came out months later and completely overshadowed it. The game wasn't very popular at the time and was seen as a more kiddy remake of NES Metroid than an actual sequel. The growth of its popularity in the present has to do with how easy and fun it is to play on computer emulators compared to other games of its era, but the game was never that popular nor beloved during the SNES era.
>>12505902That is also a very reasonable take. Especially since so many of them have massive egos and think of themselves as le uber hardcore gamers despite having nothing but babby's first shitclears.
Agreed, I beat it for the first time last year and it was just decent, but it's carried HARD by its art, music, and atmosphere. It's far from the best game on the SNES.
>>12505880I feel exactly the same about Zelda. But people like what they like. Complaining that it doesn't float your boat is pointless, no one is ever going to care. Just play what you like and focus on that.
>>12505889fuck off with this appeal to authority you little spergtard piece of shit
>>12505880Today OP was a gay retard. Go watch a super Metroid Speedrun, it will destroy your retarded assumptions and opinion based on zero skills and game knowledge.
>>12506193>MUH SPEEDTROONING!!!!The most casual baby game in existence is difficult if you're going for a literal frame perfect WR speedrun you fucking autist.Always a bad sign and a huge red flag when you have to resort to autistic speedtrooning to consider your game deep or challenging.
>>12506069eat my fuck you triple nigger
>>12506210youre missing the point, the reason to watch a speedrun isnt that only frame perfect play is hard, its that it shows the games actual systems, movement depth, and skill ceiling, stuff youre not even engaging with and oblivious too...calling something easy baby game without understanding how it works is like crashing a motorcycle and blaming the bike, watching someone skilled isnt moving the goalposts its showing what the game can actually do when its mastered.a game can be easy to pick up and still have real depth and execution at higher levels ignoring that doesnt make it shallow it just means youre not seeing it
>>12506247And none of that shit matters as the game is pisseasy baby shit where enemies, hazards, and platforming deal minuscule damage, pose zero threat, and health fountains are everywhere.>b-b-b-but it's hard if you put a million qualifiers and restrictions and play for WR speedrun!!!Whatever you say faggot
>>12505880Try doing a low percent run or Reverse Boss Order.
>>12506262ok by that logic almost every game ever made is easy, most let you tank damage, spam heals, abuse saves, or use continuesdifficulty isnt just whether you can limp to the end, its how the systems hold up when you actually play well, movement, routing, resource management, execution, under some sort of skill-based standard like 1CC, speedrun, high score, no-death, etc. super metroid is forgiving if you play sloppy, sure, but it also has a high skill ceiling if you dontif your only metric is "can i eventually win while playing badly" then yeah, almost everything will look shallow, even the hardest arcade games, most let you credit feed and refill your bombs making progress basically mindless
>>12506262Except that speedruns are encouraged since the game lets you do so many sequence breaks and because you get better ending screens.Even the developers did speedruns as well.As an example, Chikairashi Motomu did a 1:06 run on the game.You can check the staff clear times in this interview :https://metroiddatabase.com/old_site/sm/interview.php
>>12506276>difficulty isnt just whether you can limp to the end, its how the systems hold up when you actually play well, movement, routing, resource management, execution, under some sort of skill-based standard like 1CC, speedrun, high score, no-death, etcThis is actually so fucking true, I've been meaning to say the same thing but never formed my thoughts about it.
>>12505896>No one said it was bad retardMeanwhile, you write>worst fucking taste imaginable>Shitty subpar action and platforming, zero stakes or challenge with pisseasy enemies and hazards that don't even pose the slightest threat, one-dimensional bosses, bland and copy-pasted stages, and 90% of the game is spent slowly inspecting every single tile of every room, but it's a masterpiece btw>it's more braindead and shallow with focus on production values above all>cinematic babygameGee, I wonder where he got the impression you were calling it bad. The only remotely positive thing you said was that you don't hate it.>I don't even hate Super Metroid, but holy fuck is it massively overrated by insufferable retards.
>>12506276>most let you tank damage, spam heals, abuse saves, or use continuesHere's the thing... they don't. Super Metroid is uniquely pisseasy, but not just pisseasy, it has zero punishment or stakes to anything. You can just waltz right past enemies and facetank hazards, the game gives ZERO fucking reason to engage with any of it.
>>12505949This post is actual revisionism. In no way was it disappointing to most Metroid fans, and just because it sold less than fucking Donkey Kong Country (a megahit) doesn't mean it wasn't successful.
>>12506270Try playing Kirby's Adventure with one finger, blindfolded, while balancing on your erect dick.
>>12506295>baby's first challenge runTry it flaccid next time, superplayer
>>12506293>games are easy without a structured challenge that skilled players agree onWowweird!if you want to know a games difficulty find people competing in it, and try your hand at getting top 3 or whatever. Then you can judge it.
>>12506295Ok.
It's weird seeing some anon pushing the idea in Super Metroid threads that it was never loved before speedrunners and getting played on emulators. It was always critically acclaimed and highly regarded by players.Maybe he and his friends just didn't like it or something, and he's projecting his personal memories. More likely just lying to bait people.
>>12505880It's a Nintendo game hailed as a masterpiece. What the fuck did you expect? Exceptional gameplay?
>>12506363>>12506363>nintendo bad because I can't play their games wellkek cope and seethe bro
>>12506387>Nintendo games>challenging anyonekek cope and seethe toddler
i will be the oneto destroy nintendoand save videogames
>>12506295If Super Metroid wasn't designed to be played in different ways then it wouldn't track completion time or item collection rate at the end, it also would have taken considerable effort to make the game function at all if items were collected out of order and be toggled on and off in the menu.The level design of Lower Norfair also indicates that beating Ridley without varia or gravity was playtested to an extent.
This thread is garbage, OP is a faggot.Super Metroid, to me, is about the feelings it gives, the sense of isolation and wonder on that first casual playthrough. The music kicking in when you're taking the elevator to Brinstar the first time, stuff like that. And the dopamine hits of finding a hidden whatever. You always felt like a new mystery was behind every door.Speedrunning exists, but doesn't interest me. Speedrunning is usually more dedication than skill anyway but that's neither here nor there.
>it's not skill it's dedication
>>12506443Oh yeah? Raw player skill would be just picking up the game and doing it without already having the game memorized.2 years, 15,000 attempts, hundreds of hours on forums and analyzing little shit. Trying it over and over until the whole game is burned into muscle memory. It's dedication more than skill.
>>12506447You literally don't even know what a skill is which explains why you have none
>>12505896Yes you were saying it was bad goalposter, your intentions can be seen.>>12505889Tranny Smith has been a blight on this board, but I noticed ours it's not the only one that suffers from a weird schizoid abusive mod or a botposter.
>>12506290Man you fall for the obvious bait of Tranny Smith.
>>12506456>>12506457Explain this "Tranny Smith" character. What's her deal?
>>12506389prove you're good at a nintendo game.post your best Mario Kart or F-Zero times replays. toddler
>>12506765*crickets*Nintendo is right up there with Capcom, Konami, Cave, Team Ninja, FromSoft of not only making high quality but highly challenging games. Of course challenge is not just mindlessly limping to the end credits, it's always structured goal oriented play, without structured goals almost all "hard" games can be easy. FULL STOP
>>12505880filtered
>>12506294All excuses.
>>12507159Kafkaesque post.
>>12506069kek
>>12507162Everyone parroting that claim definitely weren't there when it came out.
>>12507168Elaborate.
>>12505880Love me Super Metroid one of the best games of all time
>>12507176Agreed. I still don't think it's been surpassed in its genre.
>>12505880touch puss auster
>>12505880>unga bunga you game tribe inferior to my tribe awunga fuck off retard. you posted this dumbshit thread on /v/ already btw.
