>No Gradius on the Genesis>Stuck with Gradius III on the SNES insteadWhy did Konami hate Sega so much? Or was it due to Nintendo's draconian licensing?
>>12506541Anyone owning a SEGA would just buy games like>Thunder Force III + IV>Gaiares>Gleylancerinstead. Meanwhile the SuFami had no other good STGs so it makes sense to release it there.
>>12506590Gleylancer was only on MD. SNES did have some other good shmups though, another crime is the fact there was no R-Type on the Genesis, but there were 2 SNES releases. How the fuck does that work? Even if they released a special version of R-Type 2 (AKA Super R-Type) like they did with Street Fighter, that would have been more acceptable.
>>12506590>Meanwhile the SuFami had no other good STGsR-Type 3 which is the best STG of the whole generation.
>>12506658>R-Type 3 which is the best STG of the whole generation.Are there people who actually think this? I'd say it's one of the best but definitely not the best.
>>12506692R-Type is my favorite series in general so yeah.
>>12506590>Gaylancer and GayaresLiterally nobody bought these
There is no reason to ever play a shmup on a console, this is the absolute worst avenue to explore this genre
>>12507340You're a homo, I don't even understand this opinion.
>>12507429Arcade machines are overwhelmingly more powerful than consoles, and shmups are specifically designed to excel in an arcade environment moreso than any other genre, so you're more or less playing a watered down version of a genre that is of exponentially higher quality elsewhere. This is the one genre where I would immediately beeline for arcade games and never look back.
>>12507593>I hate playing video gamesTard take. What about console exclusive shmups? What about ports that add content? What if you like the way they play or want to play them on X system? WTF this is making me angry now.
>>12507789Well see now this is taking it a bit far, the Speccy is barely even capable of addition operations. That being said, some of the Gradius games on the MSX were legit enjoyable but the choppy scrolling is impossible for me to get used to.
>>12507779>console exclusive shmupstend to be boring and too easy>ports that add contenttend to add issues in other areas (slowdown / easier difficulty)>what if you like how they play on X systemVery few instances of this happening
>>12506541The Genesis only got Contra Hard Corps and Bloodlines while the SNES got 2 Castlevania games and the Parodius series also.
>>12508307Poor sega. They get Konamis greatest games ever made while the SNES got the worse Parodius port
>>12507789I always wanted to play gradius with popcorn noises
Has console fanboyism ruined all retro game discussion permanentally? OP is a literally mentally retarded autist that will forever be incapable of having a worthwhile opinion on any game or ever playing anything remotely decent.
>>12508318>Has console fanboyism ruined all retro game discussion permanentally?
>>12508321But it's not war, it's an entirely arbitrary and half hearted advertising campaign that soulless unfunny normalfags have decided to forever engrave into their personality, and not even firsthand, I suspect much of it has been dripfed to them by youtubers long after these things existed. Like there's some obese retard sitting on a pile of boring dreadful games somewhere entirely because a sloptuber made a gay video about it 20 years ago and it made an impression on him when he was a teen. People really live like this. Like amount being in such a deep hole that you need to convince yourself mediocre console shmups are a topic of interest.
>>12508313>shameless treasure wannabe and b-tiervania>Konami's greatest gameslel
>>12508327I wanted to know why Konami didn't publish more games for Sega. They absolutely did favor the MSX and Nintendo consoles. It's particularly weird when they ported them all to the SNES (like 4 or 5 of them) but none of the Genesis even though they would have run better. Someone might bring up Axelay, but I heard that doesn't even use mode 7 for (at least many of) it's effects.
>>12507340yeah i'll just play them at the arcade that closed in 1997 and never had them in the first place
>>12508416MD sold bad in Japan and the meme color limitations were a turnoff for devs, even then they put decent effort for the MD, compared to Capcom who didn't give a shit.
>>12508448You're missing his point entirely, anon. Why are you playing games? Stop doing that.
>>12508457>playing gamesWhat part of this thread is about that
>>12508448>never had them in the first placeThis is a big reason why arcade shmups never really caught on in the west and these threads are always the same few schizos. It's leagues behind in popularity compared to any other arcade genre in their heyday, so there's no nostalgic attachment to them than say speedrunning N64 games. Most western shmupfags only got into it because some eceleb drank too much Japanese koolaid and told everyone shmups are the most hardcore shit ever 17 years ago, or they watched some YouTube video in 144p where you couldn't tell what was going on but all the bullets on the screen overstimulated them.I only like them because they're really simple in essence and playing a game you already know feels meditative to me. When you're autistic, it feels good to do something you're already familiar with. Each run is like 99% the same thing every time and it's not nearly as physically demanding as the other genres.
>>12508476>arcade shmups didn't catch on because american arcades didnt have themKind of a strange sentence. You should be saying "because they didn't sell", and then "because Westerners don't like shmups in general."
