Will this be worth it? Looks like they're reprinting classic AES games too.
JUST. EMULATE.New hardware is UNNECESSARY and WASTEFUL.
I don’t trust them enough to preorder it. If it really is a 1:1 relica I might entertain it.
Dude, they've been selling remanufactured MVS superguns on AliExpress for ages.
Intriguing, especially if it works with mvs adapters. Willing to try it if the quality isn't dogshit.
>>12511717NOOOO I'VE INVESTED SO MUCH IN MY AES SYSTEM
Will it only have hdmi ports?
>>12511717is it just an ARM emulator in nice plastic shell again
>>12511756No it still has an analog port for CRTs.
>>12511760Also rgb output.
>>12511717Reprinting games is cool. Those old neogeo games are expensive
>>12511767That’s the bare minimum as that’s what the original had.
>>12511767Should clarify, all aes had optional RGB as well as the more typical composite output, but many versions had really shitty rgb and had to be modded.The rgb bypass suegery shouldnt be nevessary on the new console.
>>12511720ewwww i’m not playing in front of a monitor on a stinky pc. stfu trying to tell me what is wasteful, you little shitstain
So its apparently using chips based on the original, so that makes it less a modern mini console and closer to stuff like the Genesis 3 and Core system game gear. Honestly pretty cool, but my pessimistic side makes me think they will fuck it up somehow.
I would definitely buy the system, but will probably avoid the new games unless they are doing proper mask rom chips.Would be neat though to see aes versions of mvs or cd exclusives like Nightmare in the dark and ironclad.
Nintendo would make so much money by making brand new NES, SNES, and N64 consoles using the same chips or clone chips AND reprinting carts of their own classic games, but they are convinced stringing people along with Nintendo Online's meager line up is the best course of action (even though they could do both at once, as the audience is different).
>>12511717I have the original AES. I wonder if the repro carts can play on my original AES. Even if that's the case, I already have a flash cart. I'll just wait for the reviews to come out. Also, emulation for the NEO GEO is good these days.
>>12511759No... They are trying to make new hardware based on the original design, using the same old chipset.No emulation, no fpga. Now, whether they can pull it off or not and whether it is gonna be even remotely affordable for a fanbase who never had the chance to even see one of those, is another thing.Having said that, the fact it is gonna be a preorder thing, makes me feel that yeah, its gonna be as expensive and prohibitive as the original. So a new generation of daddy's rich kids will be the only ones to experience what a true console is like.
>>12511717>anything but make an actual aes mini
>>12511828Ahem
>>12511717>Looks like they're reprinting classic AES games too.By putting the rom on an usb stick?
>>12511813So... Speaking of prices. The main console seems to aim to an around 300$ preorder price while the games are gonna be 50$ a piece.This sounds WAY too good to be true.
>>12511807I would buy the shit out of properly manufactured carts for Earthbound Beginnings and the English version of Fire Emblem on nes, starfox 2 and various Nintendo Power and Satellaview titles for snes and dragon hopper and zero racers for virtual boy.
>>12511720The only good thing about these type of releases is the new original controllers to use on pc. Hope the stick is as good the original.
>>12511828That was the NeoGeo X.
>>12511851No. It seems to be actual replica motherboards. They claim the system is fully compatible with the original existing AES carts.Theres no way those new carts are gonna be using sticks. Having said that, the fact that they are selling them at actual affordable prices makes me think they are gonna be cheap in quality and less durable compared to the originals.
>>12511859Im curious how they compare to modern NG carts that cost 300 for new games like Kraut Buster and NG.Dev stuff.
>>12511717What I want to know is what games they're repro-ing. The ones that stick out to me are Shock Troopers (Which never got an AES cart originally, it was MVS exclusive) and Metal Slug 1.
>>12511791I'm curious as to why no one bothered to make a Neo-Geo-on-a-chip until now. The NeoGeo used a 68000, which was reverse engineered decades ago by companies like TecToy, which produces Genesis clones to this very day. It probably comes down to the fact that cloning a premium Japanese console just wasn't a very high priority for a Brazilian company like TecToy.
>>12511859>No emulation - Powered by re-engineered ASIC chipsEffectively the same an an FPGA.The new carts also most likely use one cheap FPGA/ASIC and a few MBs of RAM and some flash instead of the old PCBs filled with chips.
>>12511717Oh no, I filed my return last month and spent it all already. This is exciting news, and now I have to start saving up for it. Wish there was some warning so I could have allocated my resources to getting it. It is exactly what I want, an affordable way for me to enjoy the games without resorting to emulation as I've been doing with the CBOX.
>>12511868If they claim the system is indeed compatible with the original carts, then they cant use that method for their new carts.Also, they DID mentioned that this is not an fpga approach. They are aware of the difference... Or so they say. Whether if it is indeed true or not is another thing.
NOOOOOO MY RETIREMENT FUND!!!!!! STOP STOP STOP DO NOT BUY!!!!!
>>12511840not an aes>>12511858they completely bombed that
Would be nice if the popularity of this results in a different company manufacturing actually semi affordable mvs to aes cart adapters.
I don’t like wireless controllers. I think the emf is dangerous
>>12511878I mean, you don't have to get it. In fact, I'll list the following considerations in regards to playing NEO GEO:>Emulation for the system is perfect. You can play the games perfectly fine on MAME or FB Neo.>Not every game you might want would get a reproduction>In regards to fighting games, Fightcade offers online matches and is based off of FB NeoIf these considerations don't mean much to you, then go ahead, buy it.
The launch titles for it seem like a good mix of the early games.The console comes with metal slug for line $250n or $999 with pic related. Or you can buy them for like $80 each.
>>12511869Arent those consoles still actual NG boards but repurposed? That is still original hardware, the only chinese thing there is those multicarts.>>12511859Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.
>>12511854>>12511807Modern Nintendo is about finding innovative ways to cuck their loyal fans. They won’t re release physical games since they figured out tendies will gladly fork out for a monthly subscription to borrow ROMs
>>12511916>No NAM-1975>No Metal Slug 2-5>No Shock Troopers 2>No Ninja CommandoWhy even bother.
>>12511920>Also, i just checked the store page for the carts. They say the carts are compatible with the original aes console, so no, they cant memory sticks or anything. They have to be the real deal... Only possibly cheaper and easy to break.How come? There are plenty of flash memory carts for other retro systems.
>>12511927That is the first batch. If they sell well they will reprint more games.
>>12511872Having an FPGA doesn't mean it can't have a cartridge slot for original games. Just implement all the data lines to the cart.It also doesn't mean that it has to be inaccurate. If you implement the chips properly, you get the same end result as with original chips.But it's super easy to mass produce compared to an actual original NEOGEO.mainboard or game.
>No money idol exchangerWhat's the point then
>>12511916$1000? Shit, I'll stick with FinalBurn Neo.
>>12511963Thats the ultimate edition (console, 1 extra stick, 1pad, 1 memcard, all 10 games first run).The console is being priced at 200$ alone or 250$ the white anniversary bundle with Metal Slug. The games are priced at 50$ the piece.
>>12511958Oh sure, the system is already pretty easy to emulate in any hardware and im sure theres an FPGA implementation just as perfect. But the point here is not accuracy, but authenticity.If the console and games were to use fpga hardware instead of the original chips, or at least something similar but still compatible, then they would be lying to the public. A disaster identical to the NGX handheld. Neither SNK nor the maker of this new console can afford to lie again.
>affordable copies of MoTW, Neo Turf Masters, and Metal SlugI can't habeeb it
>>12511968Yeah, I got that from the image, but it's hard to consider it when my Batocera machine has every Neo Geo game and then some, and only cost like $70 total. It's hard to justify the purchase, especially in these trying times.
>>12511973They could use an one time programmable FPGA and say it's an ASIC. There's no functional difference.
>>12511973FPGA or ASIC, you won't be getting old PCBs filled with old "authentic" chips either way. Everything will be handheld by one chip.
>>12511968the games are priced at $90 a la carte
what is good on neogeo that isnt metal slug, neo turf masters or fighting games that are only fun if you have a friend who comes over and learns the game with you (I dont have friends)
>>12511717Bundle is an awesome deal but they'll rip me off in taxes because its over a certain limit. I'll have to split it up.>>12511791I think it will end up being something like arm since they are the company that did the Atari 7800+. Their website says nothing like what some people are saying https://plaionreplai.com/pages/neogeo#hardware. Still even just making a white shell for the system is pretty amazing but I think it could be a promo guy going a bit overboard.>>12511859So far they were able to make atari 7800 cart including the pokey chip. This is a big step up in chip density though.>>12511986I think to make real chips you would need a minimum order of 20k or so, they were able to do it with A7800 carts but I'm half hopeful. Using fpga like Palmer Lucky is pretty inefficient.>>12511869At least now you can get a real controller and memory card. I only have the jelly bean controller.>>12511867The later Neo Geo boards were not far off from being an SOC. NES, Sega and C64 SOC existed and they could have made them accurate if they cared.
>>12511786You can emulate with a CRT you know
>>12511813>using the same old chipsetare those chips in production anymore?
>>12511746Link for clear Aliexpress Neo Geo mother base?
>>12511717I absolutely guarantee that it will not be worth it.If you want a real period-accurate Neo Geo experience in the ways that matter buy yourself a NOS Seimitsu LS-32/LS40 lever + Omron XW6Z-0011 buttons and mount them in an arcade stick with a Vewlix layout. I recommend a Mayflash F500 V2. All parts together shouldn't cost you most than about $150. And you'll have the *exact* set-up used on Japanese Neo Geo MVS machines, including what was used in official tournaments.
>>12511717>Gameplay on the NEOGEO AES+ is not achieved through emulation; instead, the console is powered by its legacy ASIC chips, re-engineered by modern standards to accurately replicate the original machine'salso known as a "system on a chip". The same kind of technology used in the famiclones people have poo-poo'ed for years.
>>12512073but that's not the AES experience
>>12511720New hardware is based, fuck you.
>>12512116wrong
>>12511813Price is estimated to be 250 USD and 90 for games. The games are pricey, I would have liked to see them be like... 20-30.
>>12512073>Omron XW6Z-0011Can these still be found anywhere? I have a NeoCandy 29, but I think I put in Sanwa buttons when I got it (iirc, it originally had random colored buttons in it from its life as a church cab). The joysticks were original but worn to shit, I replaced some of the internals but P1 still isn't the snappiest, I'm guessing some of the microswitches could be worn out.
>>12512118>WrongWrong. Why the fuck would you not want new retro consoles? WTF is wrong with you? The original Neo Geo is extremely expensive, this is actually an affordable option. Nobody cares about devaluing your expensive retro collection. This is a win for the human race if they don't fuck it up.
>>12512124And from a quick check, it would seem that these buttons would be borderline impossible to find, much less in new or minimally used condition.
>>12512108The AES experience is a joke. It's the toy version for lonely gamers at home afraid to play in a public arcade against other human beings. Play the real big boy Neo Geo, the MVS.
>>12512124>Can these still be found anywhere?Yes, if you take the time to sift through the various online auction sites. It won't be as easy as going on amazon and clicking "Add to cart", but they are still around if you put a little effort into it.
>>12512135>Video game consoles are LE BADAlso I just want to say this fucker better include USB ports for third part sticks that use them.
>>12512138Also, the Omron buttons use reed switches (like the Sanwa RG series), so they last an extremely long time. Even if you find some that are beat up and dirty, they can probably be restored. The Omron buttons are bouncier and have slightly longer throw than the Seimitsu PS-14-G that a lot of people use as substitutes. Strictly speaking, the modern Sanwa and Seimitsu betters are probably objectively better in performance. But if you want the authentic 90s Japan feel you'd go for the Omrons.
>>12512135>lonely gamers at homeyou mean just like your setup?
>>12512138I guess I'll keep an eye out, didn't see any active or sold listings on either Yahoo or Mercari
>>12512123Thats actually a steal considering faggy homebrew devs want 300+ per cart for their new games on the system.
>>12512135The fuck does that have to do with me wanting to play Shock Troopers and Magician Lord?
>>12512174give him a breakhe's only ever played video games not made by fromsoft on fightcade
>>12512173But compare to flash carts. It's just a ROM device, big deal. Atari sells repro carts for like 30 or 40 I think and this is going to no different. Maybe they're offsetting the console cost. It does look like it comes with a nice arcade stick, probably was expensive.
>>12512174Both those games suck.
>>12512126This. They need to start reprinting more retro consoles so we can crash the retro collectors market with no survivors
>>12511720Go away smelly shitstain :o
>>12511786>ewwww i’m not playing in front of a monitor on a stinky pcThis is the intelligence and tech level of the average collector.
>>12511828Why the fuck would you want a mini? Why not the full size console like they are making?Also they made like 10 different Neo Geo minis so far.
>>12511891So it HAS to be an AES, but you don't even want a real AES, just a miniature piece of plastic vaguely shaped like one?
>>12512248also, if you want an AES mini, theres the NGX, its exactly what you are looking for. >Shaped like an AES>includes 2 joysticks identical to the originals>HDMI output.and it even includes a handheld, which im sure by this point, it has been hacked to a good enough firmware that allows perfect and accurate emulation.
>>12512254>>includes 2 joysticks identical to the originalsThey are not identical. Completely different internals.
>>12511720Vegan.
>>12512248>Why the fuck would you want a mini? Why not the full size console like they are making?Anon. Don't pretend a full sized $250 console with 10 games that cost $90 each is the same as a mini.>>12512248>Also they made like 10 different Neo Geo minis so far.Not an AES mini.>>12512254>also, if you want an AES mini, theres the NGX,Not mini. Not currently for sale.Extremely expensive used.You might not like or care for the concept of a Mini but don't give false solutions that are clearly different than what that person wants. You are fully aware there is no AES Mini.
>>12511813isn't an ASIC just and FPGA that can't be reprogrammed?so this just an FPGA that can only play Neo Geo
>>12512262I use all the money I save emulating on wagyu
>>12511976i am SO GLAD i lost auction for MVS copy of Metal Slug 1 last week, I bid 120 bucks andd now i can get AES copy of BOTH Metal Slug AND Big Tournament Golf for the same price, versus paying $100,000+ for the originals>>12511720i emulate when i want to playi buy physical because it looks pretty on a shelfor at least AES games do XD
>>12511717It would be cool if it was 100% accurate (it won't be).
>>12512057Google "Neo Geo MVS Aliexpress". There's even a few that have been modded with Saturn controller ports.
>>12512265what's the point of an AES mini over the other Neo Geo minis? So it can literally look like a miniature version of the AES, yet with identical guts to the other minis they've made so far? Is that all it is to you? Just a literal piece of particularly colored and shaped plastic you want to put on your shelf with no other regards to it's capabilities?
>>12512389>So it can literally look like a miniature version of the AESYes.>Just a literal piece of particularly colored and shaped plastic you want to put on your shelfGo into a hundred different homes and do you know what you'll see, shelves full of things. Do you demand every single one be explained "logically"? I said "You might not like or care for the concept of a Mini" and I don't expect you personally to care any more than I am to understand someone's love of stamps or coins or action figures. It's a little collectable that you hook up to your TV and play games with in the shape of a console you like, that's it, you don't need to like it. If someone collects them and they have a SNES and Genesis and a TG16 and a ect, ect, of course they are going to want the Neo Geo one to look like the console, otherwise they'd just use a drab Chinese emubox.
>>12511717How reliable of a retailer is this place and do they have a good track record of replicating the advertised consoles they sale?
>>12511976>>12512284I'm thankful I only paid like $240 for my Garou MVS and $50 for my Metal Slug 1 MVS. I have MSX & 3, Turf Masters, Samurai Shodown 2 and Realbout 2 as well that I got for no more than like $140 I think for Turf Master. I'm just happy there are more options available.
>>12511717This is a gigantic fuck you to collectors. There was no need for this garbage.
>>12512467>t. collectorI collected the MVS cards and I am still excited for this.
>>12511717Looking forward to November :)
>>12512251if I'm going to buy a fake neogeo, yes. all I wanted was an aes mini with proper neocd pads. I don't give a fuck about hoarding plastic. and I don't want some plastic barbie doll sized mvs mini cabinet with fucked up dpads.if you wanna pay nearly a hundred bucks a game for repros of 30 year old games, more power to you. me, I ain't doing it. I'd buy a mister before that.
>>12512467fuck collectors
>>12512467I collect aes and mvs carts and im very excited for this if they can produce something of acceptable quality.
>>12512486I would be willing to throw down for the giga nigga pack if they elaborated on whats going to be inside the carts component wise.
Can someone link to the preorder page? I'm getting 404'd
>>12512625
>>12512221correct
>>12512221This Plaion company needs to flood the market. Also can't wait for the chinese clones of it. The future is looking based
>>12512662Cartridges
>>12511717I ordered that model and Turf Masters since I really wanted it and it seems like it will be good. If they fuck up then I will just refund through paypal and gets my shit back. But they are adding an extra course to the AES+ cart of Neo Turf Masters that was only on the CD version: Scotland.
>>12512690It seems to work for me.
>>12511976Please elaborate on your line of thinking here.Why don't you just play the games right now through the multitude of means available to you?>MVS copies of those games>Emulation>ports>Neo Geo flash carts and multi-cartsDo you even care about playing games? Or do you just want a piece of plastic to put on a shelf? But in this case, since it's a reprint/re-issue, what's the point of even that?
>>12512690It appears they are only doing pre-orders in select countries.
Man, the resurgence of SNK has been awesome. Don't fuck this up.
>>12512823SNK of the 90s is now Dimps.
>>12511916Can you order the EUR version of the console from there, but with Japanese games, and will they be compatible?
I am really tempted to pre-order bros, talk me out of it. I feel like I'm gonna get bamboozled but everything looks really good on paper.
>>12512798I already own an AES and want to play them on it.
>>12512860I'd wait till reviews and hands on impressions start pouring in but I can't lie, I'm interested.,
>>12512798Please elaborate on your line of reason. Not the suggestion of alternative means but you're complete inability to understand why people might want something?
I'm only interested in the joysticks.
>>12512662This?
>>12512860IF YOU DON'T PREORDER 5 MINUTES AGO YOU WILL MISS OUT!!!! THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY AND YOU MUST ACT NOW BEFORE RESELLERS UP THE PRICE 10,000%!!!! YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS OUT DO YOU???
>>12512936They mean "What kind of components are inside the Game Carts and Console".
>>12511720t.
>>12512860You will own everything, but yet you still feel empty inside
Am I really a big enough retard to spend 1500 AUD on an overpriced console?yes
>>12512969It really is like this though.
>>12512823Whayty else can you sayThe Saudis love Neo Geo
>>12512272No
>>12512930I don't even see why anyone would want the original sticks, when they're just downgraded seimitsu clones inside a junky plastic shell. the original sticks were great, for their era, but these days those sticks may as well say madcatz.
>>12511717It's a collectors item. AES games are so god damn expensive, ain't nobody buying them for playing, especially when MVS games and systems are a fraction of the price.Will be interesting to see what the guts of this thing look like though, and how well it plays with encrypted carts like Metal Slug X, or multi-link games like Thrash Rally.
>>12513224They're making the games so you can buy them a lot cheaper anonAlso the guts will most likely be the same with a HDMI out and ASICs that will be fairly similar
>>12513232>100 a pop>cheaperknockoff mvs carts are 50bux a pop off ali
>>12513245No need to even buy counterfeits, there's plenty of real MVS carts on AliExpress as well for just as cheap. After all, they made thousands of copies of these games, and your electronic waste has to end up somewhere.
>>12513245Sure, but these aren’t KO and from what they’ve said, they’re made to spec off the original schematicsAlso, no one’s stopping you from buying knockoffs from aliexpress
>>12513312>they’re made to spec off the original schematicsyeah, like all those limitedrun cartridges, huh
fuck it, I just did the most diabolical and pathetic thing I preordered
>>12513332We'll see
>>12513345
imagine collecting re-releases with inferior chink hardware for the same price as an used original console lmao
it'll have both RGB and composite >https://www.gamesradar.com/hardware/retro/the-neo-geo-aes-is-back-but-the-retro-console-remake-is-effectively-the-real-deal-reborn-with-hdmi/>"I reached out to PLAION to check whether the new system still supports both RGB and composite, and it turns out it'll do both while also offering stereo sound"
>>12511813>They are trying to make new hardware based on the original design>whether they can pull it off or not is another thingSo it's not finalized?
>>12512936he’s saying are the boards on the carts gonna be legit or just some chink hack job like repros often are.
>>12513480I got it, hors cock.
>>12513480At 80$ a piece, the games better be the real fucking deal.I can't see why that company would tarnish their reputation.
>>12513423imagine being poor
Let's say i don't mind bootlegs as long as it's serious enough, where would i get them?(box+cover as well)
>>12513163sorry, I think it is. they aren't reproducing the original boards and chips.
>>12511920The CBOX/pandora box does take MVS cartridges. I've got a few Fatal Fury games and KOF2000 carts that aren't on those multicarts.>>12512042There's been a lot of good new controllers that are very close to the originals lately. I hope they go full on with the microswitches with the pads that came with the CD systems, as I prefer those over joysticks.
Will prices on OEM AES systems and games drop because of this?
>>12514037It's not going to be a complete crash but the valuations are going to take a considerable hit. Whenever people have new options to play a game the prices on all the existing options go down.
>>12512284>i buy physical because it looks pretty on a shelfThen just put the empty box on the shelf.
>>12514037Sealed box aes console and games will go up, while the playable open/loose stuff should drop a bit. Especislly if this is a success and they floodnthe market with more games later.
Any word on if the RGB will be the good or shit variant?
>>12514078Should be the good version if they are making a new board. It would be imsane for it to need an RGB bypass mod like the old AES.
>>12511717Thanks but no thanks. I heard on youtube that Neo Geo was a failed 5th generation of console. Imagine the shame of actually owning FAILED video games.
>>12513556ebay and aliexpress >(box+cover as well)Make this yourself, it will come out much better.
Many people jumped on the preorder already but I feel like we should at least wait some feedbacks, like we really don't know how it performs in reality, but the FOMO must be way too strong to consider this even a bit.
>>12514078a sync stripper circuit is 2USD, they would have to be mentally impaired to still use composite RGB
>>12511717If this is actually good I will buy one and all the games. I hope other companies start doing this and it completely destroys the retro (((collector))) market. I want to see ebay fags forced to sell everything for peanuts. I can dream.
>>12513539>I can't see why that company would tarnish their reputation.Happens constantly. There are more shoddy SoC and emulation boxes than there are quality products. SNK has failed twice already and just look at LRG how they'll repeatedly sell bottom grade chink shit to FOMO collectors and get away with it. Not to mention this company could genuinely want to make a quality product but then they get china'd to fuck on the production units. Happens to lots of indie projects too. Product takes ages as the guy goes back and forth several times to fix issues in production, finally gives the okay, china delivers shit with bad chamfers on the cart edge and trashes your SNES. Everyone stunned they could be fooled again. This board shills summer carts, people buy them all up causing copies of copies to go on sale from the same sellers on aliexpress. New ones are shoddily made and may over tax your N64. Shills continue to shill.
>>12514365>They are promising people finally getting an 'authentic' piece of neogeo hardware, now at an affordable price.>They are promising a home AES version of Metal Slug, a game that at its absolute worst, costs $ONE HUNDRED FUCKING K'S, to the point they are showing it front and center, and its the game bundles with the anniversary edition of the console.You better believe they know what they are doing,and are taking every bit of advantage of the FOMO.
dohoho
>>12511916Are snk fans really so cucked that they'll pay this?
>>12511717I could see SEGA doing something like this with ms and genesis if this is a success. Nintendo never will since they hate their fans. >I will never own a CiB copy of EarthboundFeels bad, man.
>>12514532>snk fansIf nintendo made a replica NES that played carts and had HDMI output, it would be talked about on CNN and there would be fistfights in stores between scalpers and nu-males. They would be resolded for 5x to 20x MSRP and would sit unopened on a shelf for years to come.And then nintendo wouldnt make a sexlcond production run and bitter 43 year old men would complain on reddit how "they didnt produce enough, i wanted one to play and one to display, and I had to pay a scalper $1200 for the second one!"
>>12514583That pretty much happened with the NES/SNES classic already, and those were just SBCs instead of hardware recreations.
>>12511717it makes more sense now than it did in the 90s. people want arcade games, emulators are good but don't have the same feel, and 90s nostalgia is in. this is also probably cheaper to produce than an emulator console given 2026 ram prices. emulation will never have the same vibe as a cartridge game, and you can just pick up a flash cart anyway because this appears to be a straight up re-released neo-geo and not some new hardware monstrosity>>12511720gay as fuck. "abloo its unnecessary" you know what's unnecessary? video games as a whole. you don't need any of it. engage with the medium how you want. rule of cool wins, and new hardware is cool
>>12511958>you get the same end result as with original chipsThere will always be differences due to ram speeds and so on.
>>12514365I just want more details on whats inside the carts themselves and its rather suspicious there are no details yet like there are for the system.
>>12514583Right now Nintendo is happily selling subscriptions and selling their NSO controllers and peripherals (like the virtual boy shell) and offering up their games that way, they're way too simplicity-driven to risk confusing things with a hundred new SKUs outside of that service, even if other companies were doing it successfully. Also even if they did go for it, I'm sure Nintendo would find a way to fuck it up with some anti-flashcart bullshitBut I agree that there's a pretty major market for this stuff now, and loads of people would fall over themselves pay $40 for a new Legend of Zelda cart or $60 for a new Ocarina of Time cart
>>12514583Does this play real AES carts though?
>>12514694>Does this play real AES carts though?yes, the new console plays existing carts, and the new carts work in old neo geos,
>>12514698Oh okay, that's a lot more interesting then. I thought it was just another griftbox
>>12514469>New ones are shoddily made and may over tax your N64Shut the fuck up krikzz
>>12514535>Nintendo never will since they hate their fans.While they're certainly in their greed arc, I can't imagine any actual active hardware maker would do something like this in the age of digital distribution and game streaming. All it does is cost a ton of overhead and then stop players from being locked into your newest system even for old games.
>>12514689Notably, Nintendo of America did this sort of thing once before when they issued the Player's Choice version of F-Zero for SNES in the mid 2000s. I'm not sure why they did it anymore, or why they never did it again.
>>12511717II just made an absurdly expensive arcade-relate purchase. so I wouldn't be able to buy this even if I wanted to. But I do hope that it turns out better than their last few attempts at reselling the MVS. I still remember the train wreck that was NeoGeo X...
>>12514583nintendorks don't know the difference between emulation and hardware clones
>>12514583Funny how such things have been made, but because it wasn't "official" nobody cared.
>>12511717Stuff like this is for nutcases that don't actually play any video games anymore. If you really wanted to play Neo Geo games you'd be playing them right now with whatever hardware and software you already own.
>>12514591>emulators are good but don't have the same feel,You would not be able to tell in a double blind test the difference between this thing and a modern Neo Geo emulator.
>>12514591>this is also probably cheaper to produce than an emulator console given 2026 ram prices.also this is a retarded take and evidence you have no idea about the hardware side of any of this.
>>12514979There's always people like thisI bet he posts in the chinese handheld thread constantly
>>12514825The cult of Nintendo needs the official seal of quality on it. then they will get get a second mortgage for it if needed.
>>12515009NeoGeo has never been for the poorsYou don't need to announce it brother
>>12511717Does this have an unibios?
>>12515035no, but apparently they integrated region and model dipswitches underneath the console in case its needed,
>>12514979People like to make good on childhood dreams. Sure you can get a butchered MVS from aliexpress and a multi-cart, but that doesn't quite tickle the "I just bought a real neo geo" dream. I'm still on the fence though, I'm under the assumption they'll fuck it up so I'll wait for the reviews.
>>12515036That's what UNIbios is, the dipswitches are just physical instead of button combos
>>12514619>There will always be differences due to ram speeds and so on.Analogue's entire business model is using FPGAs to re-create retro consoles that run the games directly off their original carts, clearly it can ne done, if not then this new ASIC-based Neo-Geo would not be able to play physical carts either since I doubt they are harvesting 40 year old RAM chips from ancient Neo-Geo cabinets.
>>12512042>Using fpga like Palmer Lucky is pretty inefficient.How is a FPGA inefficient? It would be cheaper and easier to do, especially with this current mess of AI companies buying out all chip fabrication for years. You generally need to place a large minimum order for ASICs, and at what are currently high prices and long lead times. Not to mention if you made a mistake or a bug was found you need to trash all those chips, re-design them, and produce new ones while for a FPGA chip that's simply a downloadable software update to fix.>>12512053>are those chips in production anymore?No, in fact, pretty sure the machinery to fabricate such old chip processes have long since been retired and scrapped so you likely can't even make such chips anymore even if you wanted to unless you want to spend billions and years rebuilding a chip fab plant to make several-decades-old chips.>>12512191>But compare to flash carts. It's just a ROM device, big deal.Didn't the Neo-Geo carts have not only ROM, but also the necessary RAM on the carts themselves?
>>12515075>No, in fact, pretty sure the machinery to fabricate such old chip processes have long since been retired and scrappedZ80 was jut retired in 2024, still tens of thousands of them out there, and even then the thing only passes data to the yamaha sound chip, so literally anythign could replace it with zero effect on on sound quality. Perfect clones of the 68HC000 main cpu are also still made. The yamaha YM2610 sound chip itself is harder to replace now than either cpu, as is the LSPC2-A2 or one of the variant video chips.
>>12512036Shock troopers fucking rules
>>12512036Top hunter is great.
>>12513480>>12513539I guess it depends on your definition of the real deal. Odds are they'll be flash ROM boards that don't structurally resemble the original PCBs, but I certainly think they could be high quality (and functionally identical to the originals).
>>12514702in addition to the carts, the controllers and memory cards are cross compatible and it’s got analog out in addition to hdmi. hopefully this is really successful so Sega tries to do one for Saturn or dreamcast
I bought the ultimate edition. Going to play golf with mum
>>12515036>>12515043Good to know. I’ve bought a few AES games before when I’ve found them at a good price, but I don’t have a console yet, so this is a great opportunity
>>12512036Blazing Star is fun. So is Aero Fighters 2. There is a couple of Puzzle Bobble games. Sengoku 3 is a pretty good beat em up.
>>12511717I don't really like the white colour and I'm afraid it will turn yellow, so I think I preorder the ordinary black version
>>12512859There was something on the site about being able to switch locales or languages so I am thinking it will be region free in that regards. But you will have to do some research yourself if you wanna be sure.
>>12515095>Z80 was jut retired in 2024, still tens of thousands of them out thereIIRC it was retired for about half a year but somehow started being reproduced again. Yes, there are some old chips still being made, my point is though that the fabs to make most of those old chips are gone, you aren't going to just be able to tell the fabs making a Z80 to start to churn out FX chips to make Star Fox 2 carts for example. The ones still making those old chips aren't really available to take orders to keep making 30-40 old chip designs as if they were a retro-TSMC. If it was there would definitely be people producing new SID chips for the C64 instead of all these ARM or FPGA based emulations of them.
>>12514716I imagine those were just unsold carts they came across in their warehouse.
>>12514979Dumb take. I do play NG games in a variety of ways, be them mvs carts, ports or emulation. Ideally though, my end goal is to have a pull off the shelf collection to play on original hardware or as close as possible. I would bet a large portion of buyers are those who actually care very much about SNK/NG games.
>>12515573SNK has the money to get chips made though. I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out the Saudis are getting into specifically manufacturing old custom chips on older nodes, as newer nodes are all reserved and much more expensive. The Neo Geo makes sense as a mass manufacturing test product since the hardware is well understood and it's very low risk if there are issues with the process.
I kind of wish this was a Neo Geo CD+ instead. Pressing CDs is much cheaper than manufacturing cartridges, and that would've been reflected in the prices.
>>12515906Bait?
>>12515914Not at all.
>>12515914Nta, but why would it be?, if anything, it makes sense.The NGCD is still the same NG hardware as the MVS and AES, only adapted to play data from CDs as well as CD Audio. Making new cds is still easier, cheaper, faster and more feasible than the carts, and they could even use higher speed drives to reduce load times significantly. its not like those have stopped being made.
>>12516125Stop you are making it obvious how all these guys want are big chunk of plastic and not the actual games
>>12515906Doesn't it still have a shitload of loading screens, and the + only makes those shorter, not eliminates them?
>>12516135They have never played a Neo CD, they just don't want shit to cost money
>>12514825Unofficial famiclones and HDMI clone consoles are unironically goated.
>>12516135The NGCD FZ model used a 2x speed CD drive that greatly reduced loading times. It's been over 30 years since then, and CD drives are now dirt-cheap legacy tech. Who's to say Saudi-owned SNK couldn't include a 4x CD drive in a theoretical NGCD+ to make load times even shorter or practically non-existent?
>>12516145I've only emulated Neo Geo CD games, but the load times are worth it for that the superior audio capabilities that resulted in better soundtracks for every game.
>>12516152The value proposition of famiclones is insane. These cheap, inconspicuous devices (with a multi-cart or a cheap flash cart) can entertain you for a lifetime. I've been seriously considering buying one to relive my childhood days of playing Contra on a flea market famiclone in the late 90s. I don't even care if every device in my house can emulate it, the systems themselves look cool.
>>12516162imposible on original hardware no matter how fast you cd drive is, you can replace it with an nvme ssd and it would still be a minute wait. the cd controller supports 4x drives, btw.the main cpu is the one copying from cd to ram, it cannot do anything else while doing so. so, no background copying like playstation.
>>12516176Isn't that just a crappy ARM based emulator?
>>12516180The NeoSD loader is roughly equal to a 4x CD drive, and a Youtube videos shows that thing loading KoF '95 in 20 seconds. Considering that you're playing the definitive version of the game with CD audio, 20 sec is not bad at all.
>>12516228yes, Retrons are famously bad
>>12516228>>12516242No. Hyperkin (outside of the Retron 5, Retron 77, and their PCE clone), Retrobit, Classiq, etc. use NOAC clone hardware for their consoles. There is no emulation here whatsoever; we are talking about reverse-engineered clone hardware from way back in the day. I swear, the MiSter project seems to have lead everyone to believe that the only two options are software and FPGA emulation. NOACs are the third method, and the cheapest, too.
>>12516270I am seeing people complaining that it forces the wrong aspect ratio and some games like Castlevania 3 don't work on it.
Plaion is owned by THQ North and SNK by a nonprofit Saudi organization:From "Press.plaion.com":" NEOGEO AES+ has been produced in collaboration with SNK, the producers of the original hardware.Celebrating 35 years of arcade perfection, the iconic NEOGEO AES stood as a beacon of excellence, with the 24-bit luxury super console a world apart from rival 16-bit systems, designed for gaming connoisseurs who refused to accept compromised homeports of arcade classics."I fell safe with my purchase, SNK is in good hands.
>>12516272>wrong aspect ratioThis is only a problem on some 'HD' models that are sold with built-in HDMI upscalers, but some of them include a switch in the rear to toggle between 4:3 and 16:9.>Castlevania 3Unfortunately, most NOACs have trouble with CV3s mapper, and I believe Battletoads as well. Apparently, the Retron 1 HD includes an updated NOAC that does support CV3. You'd have to watch some YouTube reviews on your own time.
>>12513926
Why does this keep happening? The Mini's controller had the buttons in the wrong order, but the correct colours associated with them. This time, it's the colours are where they were on the original's, but the buttons themselves are still in the Mini's formation.I get that it's because it's a bit more of a natural layout. You'll always be using A, so having B bellow it makes sense. But Metal Slug 1's How To Play screen has A as red, B as yellow, and C as green. Are they going to change the ROM so the colours match?
>>12516272don't listen to the shill, retrons are garbage
>>12516317You can't recommend or even tell anyone about anything anymore without being branded a shill.
>>12516312This is something that can be fixed by release, as this is just a render
>>12516331i don't think they will if the render is already like that.
>>12516312I feel, like you said, it was done on purpose because the A button seems to be in a more natural "prone" position for the thump while allowing more fuild motion to B and C since some games don't even use D. I know when playing Metal Slug on Fightcade with my 8bitdo controller I initially felt a bit uncanny with the way my thumb was mostly in a bent pose for 80% of the game. They should get the colors to match for sure, but the position of the buttons might be better.
>hardware-faithful >powered by re-engineered ASIC chipsso it's not identical, it's "faithful"? what does that even mean?
>>12516351It means it's an fpga
>>12516351It's a Neo Geo clone, meaning all of the original PCB's functions have been consolidated into fewer chips, or even one chip. Think like the NES, Genesis, and SNES clones you see on Amazon and Aliexpress.
>>12516351>what does that even mean?the chips from the 90s are no longer produced, so they called furrtek to help with his retro-engineering on the console's components to make it as close to the original thing as possible
>>12516382Do you not know what an ASIC is?
It's a system-on-a-chip clone marketed as real premium hardware? That's a new one. Gonna be a lot of disappointed anons when this comes out.
sony also announced they're gonna start making crts again. things are looking good.
>>12516424not >>12516382 But no I didn't."- in an ASIC has grown from 5,000 logic gates to over 100 million. Modern ASICs often include entire microprocessors, memory blocks including ROM, RAM, EEPROM, flash memory and other large building blocks."
>>12516453>sony also announced they're gonna start making crtsSource my dude?
>>12516472Basically, a custom chip designed to do a specific specialized task rather than a generic chip you can buy off the shelf. Many ASICs might have been prototyped on a FPGA but the final version is basically a custom chip that is set in stone just like any other chip such as your desktop's CPU. In this case they are basically re-implementing Neo-Geo hardware using ASICs.They aren't used often outside of massive production runs of something because they are generally very expensive to make and usually the few chip fabs that there are require a large minimum amount since nobody is going to do a whole lengthy and expensive fab production run for a small amount of chips. Especially these days where powerful, small, and cheap ARM CPUs are available to just do something in software and/or you can use a FPGA, those weren't as viable options in the past.This is part of the reason why people are surprised they can sell it for "just" $200-250, an ASIC device would NOT be cheap to make, that price would be stretching it even for a FPGA device, not to mention that if a bug or flaw is found in the design there is no way to fix it and you would have to basically produce a second batch of ASICs that have a fixed design.
>>12516394>so they called furrtekCorrect me if i am wrong. I think they called furrtek because this guy has reverse engineered the MVS / AES custom chip(s) that later carts came with. So he could make sure his MVS adaptor had 100% compatibility. Which quite possibly mean this thing will also offer 100% compatibility with existing AES carts.
>>12516389>>12516351I would say also similar to the sega genesis 3 if people need something from le olden times to compare to.
The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion that this is worth the $1000 asking price. First of all, it's the real thing, not emulation or an FPGA (although even an FPGA would be a good deal at this price point), but I'm thinking about the game cartridges. Neo Geo carts are not cheap to manufacture due to their size and having to be 100% compatible with the original hardware, and the niche nature of the product. $70 for new game carts at Limited Run is pretty common, and that's for simpler home consoles like the NES and Genesis, so $80-90 is about right for a Neo Geo cart. And in the bundle, you are basically paying the price of getting all the cartridges ala carte, and you're Getting the console, controllers and memory card for basically no additional cost. It's still very expensive but the price is actually more than fair.I doubt most of us have $1000 lying around for an impulse purchase, but I can probably make it happen. The last time I had a chance at getting into Neo Geo collecting was when I was a teen and there was a Neo Geo MVS cabinet with cartridges at Goodwill for $250, and I passed on it because I was a broke teenager and I still regret leaving the store without it. This is probably the only other scenario I can see myself getting into actual Neo Geo hardware and carts. $1000 for all the hardware and an instant collection is definitely worth consideration. If it was just another emulation box for $100 I'd probably be passing on it even though that's barely more than the price of just one of the rerelease carts.I just hope that they don't charge until the thing is close to shipping, I need time to set aside money for it.
>>12516559I just checked and Plaion does require payment at checkout, so I guess I'll have to do a little bit of extra hustle this month. It would be nice if I had until November to save up for it but I can still do this.
>>12516559I still want to see some break downs before I commit. If it's everything they promised then It's pretty sweet. I've wanted a AES collection for ages but even 20 years ago it was ridiculous. But I want to know how far they plan on sticking with it because I like the current offering of games but they're not all my favorites.
>metal slug>samsho V>garou>shock troopersGetting these for sure. Will also get samsho 2, metal slug x/3 and sengoku, if they’re part of the next batch. What else should I get right now? Give me some suggestions neo geochads. Are Pulstar and Magician Lord worth 90 dollarydoos? I’ve never played them. I know I could emulate them, but I’d rather wait.
>>12516590Fair enough. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because Plaion's Atari and Intellivision offerings apparently delivered on all their promises, and SNK has gotten a lot better about quality control with their licensees in recent years.For comparison, I have the Neo Geo Mini, it's alright but of the mini consoles I own it's the least impressive. The Playstation Classic had a weak ass game collection but that was fixed with a side loaded softmod. There's not much of a mod scene for the Neo Geo Mini. The game selection on mine is really good but the presentation and visual quality is kind of ass and there's no pixel-perfect mde. It's good enough to play with friends but it doesn't please the way the best ones do (the best ones being the ones from Nintendo and Sega, the PC Engine Mini, the mini Commodore and Amiga computers and the ZX Spectrum emulation remake).Obviously, the AES+ is more akin to the new C64, although with the promis of new ASIC chips instead of an FPGA. I look at the game situation kind of like if I had picked up that MVS from Goodwill-- even if they're not all my favorite games, that's still a solid starter collection, and with a little luck maybe they'll put out more carts. That's basically the only way I'm ever going to own the full Metal Slug collection. And since I own multiple CRTs, the AES+ excites me in a way even the best emulation boxes don't, if it actually delivers on its promises.
What about those Double Dragon or Shinobi Neo Geo carts on aliexpress? It's isn't native to the system isn't it?
>>12516617>There's not much of a mod scene for the Neo Geo Mini.No, but the Arcade Stick Pro and MVSX arcade cab have both been hacked to a nice degree.
>>12516630Yeah, those two are much better devices out the box, too, and that was when SNK started taking the quality of licensed products more seriously, likely in response to the criticisms of the Neo Geo X and the Neo Geo Mini. The Neo Geo Mini wasn't bad (the games at least ran well, which is more than can be said of the Neo Geo X) but it also was a missed opportunity.
>>12516657my family went in and got me a Neo Geo MVSX as a Christmas gift a ways back. I did a simple button swap on it and it's honestly pretty nice.
>>12511717>wireless controllers onlyYeah, no thanks. I'm never going back to those shitty dongles with +15~25ms latency. I already got memed by 8shitdo and the delay on PS2 dongle was abysmal.
>>12516617That new c64 is way more impressive than neo geo because the former at least allows you to put original chips into the new board to be as accurate as possible, including SID.There are already few red flags about this project, with a simple one being them saying the controllers are 1:1 replica, but the button order is incorrect to the original hardware.
>>12516735The default stick it includes is wired just like the original. The wireless stick and wireless controller are sold separately or included in the bundle. You don't have to buy the wireless controllers and you can use any Neo Geo controller or stick for it.
This is already sounding nice just for the fact that you won't still have to rely on +35-year-old original Neo Geo hardware to play original MVS games. It's a good preservation or replacement unit instead of a used $600 console that could go out any day
Any new details on carts guts?
>>12516559>First of all, it's the real thing, not emulation or an FPGAIt's now known to be the Jotego and Furrtek developed MiSTer core work, but on an ASIC instead of an FPGA. It's not the "real thing" nor does it being on an ASIC instead of an FPGA make the slightest difference aside from cost.
>>12512073This might shock you but not everyone has the time to go seek out ancient pussy drying garbage like this so they can look "cool" on the internet.
>>12516816To be fair the original Neo Geo hardware is pretty rugged and even if you have one that fails, it's probably just some old capacitors that need changing out. The original Neo Geo is not in the "time bomb" category the way the Xbox Fat, Sega Game Gear and PC Engine Duo / Turbo Duo are, where there's no guarantee that an unserviced console will even be repairable. Or the Commodore 64 where everything seems to go wrong with it if you look at it funny.>>12516819If that's the case, it's not like there's anything wrong with the MiSTer core, although the price will be a little better than if they had used an FPGA. It's probably the difference between the thing costing $250 or $350. They're still using a cycle accurate hardware solution with no latency.
Please be part of the second batch. I’d like to own this without being rich enough to wipe my ass with $100 bills.
>>12516496>that price would be stretching it even for a FPGA deviceIt really wouldn't. It's most likely going to be a normal FPGA, or an one time programmable FPGA. Even it's an ASIC, it's not going to be a perfect replica of the original hardware, the same way the 1chip SNES isn't 100% the same as the older revisions.
Should I cancel my order from the Plaion website because of tariff costs? I don't want to pay 50% tariff fees and shit. I'm in the US and ordered this off of the Plaion US website if that matters.
>>12516837You will never own that. If anything you'll own a repro cart with 2 chips inside it but with a licensed sticker on it instead of the unlicensed Aliexpress version without the sticker.
>>12516845Just get in on amazon. You can preorder on there (except the $1000 bundle.)
>>12516846>licensed stickerIf this leads to eBay fags losing money then I’m 100% onboard with this.
>>12516848I went ahead and sent them a cancel order request from the order email they sent. Hopefully they do it so I can get it from Amazon. I'm a neet and don't have the money for a 50% upcharge and I took in a stray mom and her kittens while a cat rescue place works on setting things up.
>>12516857I definitely wouldn’t have gotten one if I had to pay tariffs faggotry. I just preordered the black one, Garou and Shock Troopers. I hope Amazon doesn’t fuck it up in some way…
>>12516861I paid with paypal so I assume I can request my refund through them if I don't hear anything by tomorrow. Especially since nothing is shipping for seven months.
>>12516845>>12516848Wait, there's additional tariffs if I order from Plaion's site? That means that the bundle would end up being $1500 which is just as expensive as buying everything separately. That's kind of ass.If there's a giant hidden fee waiting for me in November if I order the ultimate bundle then I might as well just buy on Amazon with only a few games. I really wanted that bundle though so I guess I should do a little bit more inquiry before I make a decision. I don't want the UPS guy showing up at my door and saying "I need $500 right now or this goes to a holding facility until you can cough up the dough."
>>12516228Yes see as the other anon pointed out, there were famiclones in the 90s and 00's. How did they work? Did they use emulation? No, it "Systoem on a Chip" hardware. you can clone the original hardware and downscale it, this is dinosaur tech. All this talk of FPGA and emulation but what ebay resellers who constantly talk about "muh original hardware" always conveniently leave this out.
>>12516885I'm not sure but it is international shipping according to my order.
>>12516837that's just asinine. It has to be a laundering scam.
I just hope it sell well enough for them to keep reprinting games. Would love Waku Waku 7 under like $600
>>12511717JT and the furfag are working on this so it will definitely be good
>>12516910Same. I also want other companies to jump in on this. I’d like to own Panzer Dragoon Saga on Saturn. Though I have no idea whether Saturn and disc based games would even be viable for companies to put out?
>>12516893That's also what the Sega Genesis Model 2 and the 1-chip SNES were. They were official endeavors by Sega and Nintendo to reimplement their console with fewer ASIC chips, which is basically what this new Neogeo is.
>>12516923Sega CD and Saturn games also had shit pressing and are actually capable of disc rot.
>>12516923>Though I have no idea whether Saturn and disc based games would even be viable for companies to put out?It would be the easiest to put out, because pressing CDs is still very easy. Considering fpga consoles are a thing as well, they don't even need to make consoles themselves at this point
>Big Tournament Golf>not Neo TurfmastersNah no sovl
>>12516840Aren't the differences in the 1-chip mostly analog related? Video and sound not 100% the same as the composite output on your 1991 SNES is par for the course for analog. Mostly people only care that the games are pixel accurate and sound right. It's the inaccurate Nintendo-on-a-chip abominations that sound like strangled cats and don't support half the library that are the problem.
>>12516885>>12516898Even though the site says $20 international shipping, what I'm seeing is that it will be shipping from a US warehouse which would mean no additional tariffs. Unless there is a radical change in tariffs (which admittedly is possible given the current volatility of international trade) even in the worst case scenario you're likely looking at $50 in tariffs and brokerage fees if for some reason they have to ship direct to you from outside the US.Since I want to secure mine now I'm going to use paypal credit since I was already approved for it a long time ago for another big hobby purchase. As long as I have it paid off in full within 6 months there's 0% interest, and I can have it paid off in 5.
>>12516929My Die Hard Arcade doesn’t play anymore. I’m tempted to pay ebay prices for it but sega putting out an official release that still works on my saturn would be a godsend.>>12516940So there is hope. Fingers crossed.
>>12516923How much you want to bet SEGA have lost the trick to pressing discs that pass the Saturn's hardware check? Anti-piracy shit on CDs was proprietary and would need recreated since CD mastering places are only going to be set up for like red book and yellow/orange book. We mostly just figured out how to bypass it, not create it. Someone would have to figure out how to instruct a mastering studio to laser that onto their stamp.
>>12516945Well I already sent the emails so I'm going to roll with what happens. The fact that the support never answered my email two days ago regarding another question makes me uneven on future issues.
I want this idea of official reprints of old console games to really take off. It'd be particularly easy to do with CD/DVD games where we're just talking about stamping plastic discs, should be incredibly easily to restart production if desired. That and it'd make scalpers absolutely seethe. The people who just want first edition sealed graded games can keep on doing that. The rest of us who just want an official copy of the original game that looks the same, has the original artwork and manual and so on, we can just go for these reprints.
>>12516949>How much you want to bet SEGA have lost the trick to pressing discs that pass the Saturn's hardware check?Considering the current state of Sega. I don’t think I’d bet against you.
>>12516959As someone who buys both modern and retro games. If I had the chance to rebuild my gaming collection (that I foolishly sold when I was younger), I’d probably use 90% of my gaming funds to buy official reprints. I’m pretty fed up with modern gaming and all the constant bullshit. Buying some disc that needs 300 patches to work feels like a complete waste of money. It doesn’t help that most end up being disappointing anyway. Seems like an untapped market. There’s a lot of disgruntled oldfags out there that want to rebuild their collections and own consoles that have zero internet capabilities (the cancer that ruined everything.) Undercutting ebay fags is just the cherry on top.
>>12516954If you get no reply, try again from a different address. Your modern webmail basically bans all SMTP from sources other than the big corpos. Small companies are basically blacklisted by default and it's a LONG uphill battle to get off them so it's very possible they did reply, you just don't even get it in your spam folder, it's just silently discarded at the edge. Yes, I am a salty SMTP admin for a SME, can you tell?
>>12516923It would be terrific to finally kill scalpers. Some fucks would probably still try to push for TRULY ORIGINAL but people who just want the game to play will have an alternative. Especially on consoles where emulation is still kind of fuck.
>>12516943>Mostly people only care that the games are pixel accurate and sound right.Emulators already do that. People here seem to mostly care because it's "original hardware". But it's not.
>>12516940I already have a saturn but having new units that don't have a risk of a faulty laser would be ace. They could potentially include some upgrades too, like expanded RAM, more internal storage, and the MPEG decoder for some of the Japan-only releases. Speaking of, if they could release some of those Japan-only games in the US for the first time, like Policenauts, Lunar, Castlevania SotN and a few fighters, that would be a big deal.Of course the biggest gem for Sega fans would be if Sonic Xtreme could get finished and released but that might be too big of an undertaking. It's not like Star Fox 2 where it was basically ready to ship when it got canned, it needed months more development and that's assuming they can even find enough of the original source code to pick up where the devs left off.
>>12516165>superior audio capabilitiesConfirmed for not actually playing it
>>12516491www.sony.com/en/we-are-making-crts-again-get-hyped-as-fuck
>>12517037Awesome, just pre-ordered 3 Trinitrons.
>>12517037If they did actually manufacture new CRTs they'd probably be ridiculously expensive since all the old infrastructure of them is long gone, and the product would be getting sold at a scale even smaller than that of the film and broadcast industries that the old PVMs would be made for. I wonder if people would pay $500 for a 25" CRT that isn't any better than a consumer TV from the early 2000s?(Who am I kidding, of course they'd sell, but cheap PVMs are never coming back.)
>>12517098Most people don’t understand that electronics are only cheap due to scale and surplus
>>12517098aren't there also like environmental issues
>>12517037>Know link is fake>Follow it anyways>It's still fake
>>12517098ya boy elon is gonna save the day
>order the ultimate edition>realize it's 900 and I won't play half of the games>send an email to cancel orderassuming the games stay available, will wait for the actual release and buy stuff 1 at a time, and only buying a new games after 1cc-ing the previous ones. At least not going for the ultimate box allows to get the jp versions on amazon jp
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>>12517016If the new Neogeo isn't real hardware, than neither is the model 2 Mega Drive/Genesis, 1chip model SNES, the top loading NES, SNES Jr, most PSX models and also the PSOne, PS2 Slim and a fuck ton of fat PS2 models, and literally any Famicom that doesn't have square buttons. Also the Game Boy Pocket. I'd list more but they're not retro.
>>12517158Those were based on the same designs as the first versions, this one is apparently just an FPGA core from MISTer. I don't care personally but the purists should know that this doesn't have the same value as a real Neogeo.
>>12511720Get a job, loser
>>12517164well putting the console aside the real draw is going to be the games anyways. And if old carts are gonna work the new ones probably aren't going to be so hugely different.
>>12514535I'm still fucking perplexed why Nintendo haven't done a Switch Earthbound remake à la Link's Awakening or SMRPG. It would sell shitloads.
>>12517164>Those were based on the same designs as the first versionsYeah, they reimplemented the earlier designs in ASIC chips, which is exactly what this is.>this one is apparently just an FPGA core from MISTerFurfag and JT are helping with it. That doesn't mean it's the MiSTer core, it means that two people who have experience with reverse engineering the real chips are involved in the project.>this doesn't have the same value as a real NeogeoThis is a real Neogeo.
>>125171961) Nintendo doesn't own Earthbound, Itoi does.2) Nintendo didn't even develop Earthbound, Creatures did.3) Nintendo does not own Ape or Creatures.Nintendo published the game.
>>12517164>This one is apparently just an FPGA core from MISTerNo, it's notWho told you thatIt specifically says it's not FPGA but ASICS
>>12517204(me)* Nintendo doesn't own Creatures and Itoi doesn't work for Nintendo.
