It's library is just so well rounded and diverse I can't think of any genre where the PS1 is clearly lacking unlike any other retro consoleEven stuff more closely associated with other console like Shmup for the Saturn ,well the PS1 still have a great library of shmup
>>12513036No SM64 likeNo OoT/MM likeNo Smash like
NES, Genesis, SNES, PS2, etc etc
3D action-adventure games maybe. It really doesn't have anything with the scope of Ocarina of Time, the only one that i can think of that comes a bit close is Brightis
>>12513040>Nes, Snes, GenesisNo proper 3d games for obvious reasons
>>12513042You don't know Soul reaver or the megaman legends game?
>>125130453D isn't a genre
>>12513040>NES, Genesis, SNESLack of 3D games>PS2Lack of 2D games
>>12513045that's like saying the ps1 lacks virtual reality games
Enough for me as a PC-Station
>>12513043>ai slophow embarrassing
>>12513048Thought about mentioning it, but would only make the cut if we include JP exclusive games so it's kind of a grey area. Xbox too, almost makes it but the lack of Japanese support (except fighting games) makes it fall short imo.
>>12513056Yeah the PS1 is the retro console with the most PC games even above the Xbox
>>12513053*ahem*
>>12513048>saturnNo 3D platformers
>>12513061There is barely any 3D platformer game on Saturn...
FPS. The Medal of Honor games are good, obviously. A slathering of PC ports. Hardly anything most would want to play years later. More a lack of quality FPS than the quantity. The PSX library is so big that it really does have just about everything covered, even if the games it has aren't necessarily the best examples of their genre.
>>12513112>Hardly anything most would want to play years later. I prefer to play Doom PS1 or exhumed than any FPS on PS2
>>12513121How many have you played? Stuff like Timesplitters, Urban Chaos, Cold Winter, Battlefront, etc. all appeal to me more than just about anything on PS1.
>>12513048>no good 3D Sonic gameNo
>>12513062Like how you pretend to like the saturn?
>>12513132Well i have played the timesplitters games and it didn't really hooked meI'm more of a boomer shooter guy to be honest
>>12513036Only ps2 can claim that. Ps1 3d games look horrible and play really clunky. Ps2 is when 3d games finally got good
>>12513157>Ps2 is when 3d games finally got goodNo
>>12513071You don't need them when you have Mr. Bones.
Do the PS2 even have a metroidvania?I can't think of anyOr a cinema platformer like Oddworld or heart of Darkness ?I don't think so
>>12513036>PSXpsx
>>12513162Odin sphere thx Atlus and or that square gwafix blender valkyrie forgot the half name
>>12513039>>12513042OP is writing from the point of view of a well adjusted individual
>>12513056ebin
>>12513040The PS1 could run NES and SNES games. I had a CD with a bunch of them and that was my only experience with the (S)NES catalog. Hydlide Special OST still lives rent free in my head.>>12513157I disagree. PS2 visuals are much better, but the PS1 had much better 3D games. Or at least, it had more good/great 3D games compared to the PS2. Especially when it comes to platformers. I can't think of a single PS2 platformer that is actually better than a PS1 predecessor in the same franchise or that is better than any of the "top 10" PS1 platformers.
>>12513056>no tenant game with guy in gimp suit on cover
>>12513206
>>12513036I do love how there's basically a ton of games for every type of gamer on PS1. Whatever genre you like you're getting a heaping serving, seconds, and dessert. There's top notch genre definers, experimental weirdness, middling filler that's still enjoyable enough, and a share of no-name games nobody has any consensus on for you to make up your own mind on.
>>12513354This. In my area the PS1 was exclusively a console for platformers, racing games and football games. Years later when I started talking with people online I learned that in some places the PS1 was an "RPG console" and Final Fantasy was very popular (I've never even heard of the game until a decade after the PS1 was released)
>the ps1 was the only console with a library of games in many different genresthe kinds of things we're forced to read on this mongolian basket weaving forum....
>>12513508That's not what i said ,can't you read?The PS1 is the only console at least in the retro era where i can't find a clear weakness in it's library,every genre is well representedWhere are the metroidvania or 2D platformer on PS2?Where are the 3D platformers or stealth games on Saturn?Where are the RPG,Shmup and fighting games on N64 ?
>>12513060Go easy on the Segoyim.
>>12513036>I can't think of any genre where the PS1 is clearly lackingMMORPGRTSMOBAPoint and Click adventureExtraction ShootersRoguelike deckbuilders Nukige games Gacha gamesBattle royale
>>12513562it's retarded to count 2d and 3d as different genres. consoles like the super nintendo and genesis had a vast library of every genre that existed at the time, though of course they didn't have 3d games. similarly the ps2 had a vast library of 3d games of every genre, though few 2d ones because they were replaced by 3d. so in reality your question is more like: which consoles had games of every genre in both 2d and 3d variants? which obviously can only be answered with 5th gen consoles, because they were released at a time when both 2d and 3d games were made, and out of those consoles the ps1 had the biggest library
>>12513746>RTS>Point and Click adventureYeah no the PS1 isn't lacking in those genre
>>12513746Half of those were invented after the PS1 stopped being sold.>>12513772nta, but>it's retarded to count 2d and 3d as different genresIt's really not. It's not a visuals thing, it's a dimensions difference. For example the bonus levels in Crash Bandicoot games would count as 2D platforming. Meanwhile there's some 2D isometric platformers which are actually "3D platformers" (2 dimensions plus jumping).
>>12513793>Half of those were invented after the PS1 stopped being soldNTA but OP said NES, Genesis, and SNES don't qualify because they have no 3D games, so...>>12513045
>>12513729>SegoyimKek
>>12513036The PS2 was capable of running PS1 games. So it's basically the best console then. It also has all these genres >>12513746, granted a couple only exist through the aftermarket.
>>12513036lack of default analog controls makes 3d games feel like fucking ass compared to 64. tank controls were always shit
>>12513859>The PS2 was capable of running PS1 games. So it's basically the best console thenAnd PS3 can run both PS1 and PS2...What a poor bait
>>12513864But 3D games are better on PS1...
>>12513878mario, banjo, oot and mm are orders of magnitude better than any 3d ps1 game.
>>12513885Well that's your opinion manI find Crash team racing or Tekken 3 order of magnitude above any racing or fighting N64 games
>>12513916>uhm asckhually CTR is better than mario kartsaid no one who actually has friends
>>12513921Crash team racing is miles better,infinitely more depths in it's gameplay and much better track designMario kart is for casual gamers
Ps1 is plagued by rendering problems, low framerates and poor controlls. It took a ps2 to perfect gaming
>>12513885Banjo fucking sucks lmao
>>12513921Being better than MK8DX is arguable, but better than MK64? Not even a contest.
>>12513975How can PS2 perfect gaming when PS1 games are more fun?
>>12513937I'm sure you had a lot of fun playing it alone in your room, good for you anon
>>12513036>unplayable dogshit that looks bad(even at higher resolutions), controls bad, runs bad, bad voice acting, bad load times, transgender communities, etcAbsolutely not. Every single console before and every 6th gen console holds up better than the PS1 (tranny deadname: psx) holds
>>12513990They're not, nearly every genre is funner in the PS2 era. THPS3 vs THPS2 for example is a day and night difference; just having reverts and a stable 60fps makes it objectively funner than the laggy 10fps PS1 dogshit.
>>12514001Yeah there is very little point going back to those old ps1 game franchises these days except for nostalgia
>>12513036But the wobbly polygons and lack of z-buffering look fugly as shit.
>>12513997>if you like ps1 your tranny>if you like n64 your trannymake up your mind /vr/, unless we're all trannies.
>>12514018Liking 5th gen games in general is performative garbage for zoomer trannies, yes. People who played those shitty consoles when they were new know they were dogshit back then, and dogshit now. Fat sodomites that speedrun the same 4 shitty4 games and make low budget indie low poly 3D steam greenlight garbage with "ps1 aesthetics". You could remove both of those shitheaps from the history of gaming and we would lose nothing except the worldwide LGBT population would drop by 80%.
>>12514024Take your pills
>>12514030Stop taking HRT pills
>>12514034I don't know what HRT are You seem to know a lot about tranny stuff
>>12514024>You could remove both of those shitheaps from the history of gaming and we would lose nothing except the worldwide LGBT population would drop by 80%.Least self-hating faggot.
>>12513036metal gear solid is still untoppable. gran turismo is far beyond what n64 could do. they offer different kind of games. ps1 has some of the very best games ever made. its games are deeper than n64. n64 has the bright and smooth graphics. playstation was kind of seen as the adult system back in the mid to late 90s whereas n64 was for kids. i love both but playstation has the best library of all consoles forever. i played the hell out of since 1996 and still play it today. i only have played playstation this year. it’s more fun for me than ever.
>>12513040>NESOnly two buttons, limited saves, limited colors, limited cartridge size, can only run simple games at full speed, no 3D>GenesisOnly three buttons, ugly color palettes, disgusting audio signature, no 3D>SNESWeak CPU, too many jarpigs, no 3D>PS2Too much reliance on interlaced video, games have significantly higher input lag on average compared to 8-bit/16-bit
>>12514057AgreedPS1 is just the perfect mix of 2D and 3D without the dead space of 3D 6th gen gamesEven if the PS1 is my favorite console,N64 is a really great console with the best output from Nintendo, Rareware and Treasure imo
>>12513036>2d capabilities so underdevelopped it has to fake 2D sprites via a 3D engine>wobbly polygons with unsightly texture warpingIts literally perfect, bro
Fuck all tribalist console niggers
>>12514234so many classics on psoe that don’t comport with your dumb thesis. maybe you should play more games
>>12514234>2d capabilities so underdevelopped it has to fake 2D sprites via a 3D engine?It work very similarly to the Saturn>wobbly polygons with unsightly texture warpingSony choose to focus on good framerate unlike the N64I think they were right
>>12513868>And PS3 can run both PS1 and PS2...imperfect compability, doesn't count
>>12514260true, my ps3 won’t run ace combat 2
>>12514240Ya, Ridge racer SLAPS bro, it goes so hard
>>12514007z-buffering is an anti-feature, and the point at which 3d started going wrong.
>>12514309ridge racer type 4 is a masterpiece, however. why are you picking ridge racer, a launch title as your basis for psx. do you know you’re a disingenuous strawmanning weasel? you deserve to have a plane crash on your head
>>12514309>but muh bing bing wahoos with shitty audioLoserhttps://youtu.be/TDIPGQWedvo?si=4ga0lXQ5BwtRkAY8https://youtu.be/jVBOrrATE28?si=_8yooIxsSK9_KqfO
>>12513921Lmao what the fuck am I reading? Imagine being this fucking wrong.
>>12514337>posts his shitty video game music tracks as some sort of own>calls others loversLmao
>>12513056
>>12515192>thinks garbage 64 midis are musicNintoddlers are a joke
>>12513746>that entire list of shit genresThat seems more like a strength if anything
>>12513997I hate this idea of "unplayable" just meaning "there's a learning curve because developers were still figuring stuff out". Unplayable to me means that the game crashes as soon as you hit start game, not that it has tank controls or can't make corners fast enough or runs at 15 fps when a lot of shit is happening on screen.
It only succeeded because its discs were easy to pirate other than JRPGs its pure shovelware garbage
>>12515348>It only succeeded because its discs were easy to pirate Yeah easily pirated consoles are always huge seller just look at the Dreamcast...oh wait
>>12515354Playstation advertising was everywhere it was a monster back then Playstation made Gaming something Normie
Snoys ITT
>>12515434Look at the sales buddy. Playstation won.
this board is so garbage, go fuck yourselves
>>12515434lose some weight fatso
It doesn't eeally have much good 2D platformers.Yes, it has some, but none of them would rank among the best of the greatest 8 and 16 bit platformers.SOTN and Mega Man X4 are good, but the first one is an exploration game with RPG mechanics and no real risk of falling through bottomless pits, and X4 has really short and easy levels, the biggest strenght it was is the Zero gameplay but it doesn't excel at platforming level design.For every worthwhile platformer you can name on PS1, you can name dozens on NES, Genesis or SNES.I also think 3D shovelware (of which the PS1 is king) is more unplayable than 2D shovelware (like on NES). More chances of finding games that are completely unplayable on PS1 than in any other console.
>>12515936Ever heard of klonoa faggot
>>12515936Nah Rayman is one of the best 2D platformer of all time
>>12515958It has some, still not as many, not NEARLY as many, as 8 and 16 bit>>12515965Eh, I disagree. Also isn't the best version of that still the Jaguar original?
>>12515992I never said it has as many as the SNES but unlike the SNES the PS1 has tons of great 3D gamesIf i must describe the 3 GOAT console (SNES,PS1,PS2) it would be:SNES is the king of 2D gamesPS2 is the king of 3D gamesPS1 is the king of video games
>>12516024PS1 is a well rounded console but in regards to OP, yeah I don't think it excels at 2D platformers, it has a handful of really good ones, a bunch of decent ones, and not much else, it's modest in that genre (considering how big and mainstream that genre was in past gens)
>>12516042Well imo it has the best 2D platformer library post 4th genObviously it's not as good as the SNES or NES but you know you can take the problem on the other hand2D shmup PS1 library is much MUCH better than SNES shmup librarySame for 2D fighting games
I don't think ps1 is that bad in 2d but the focus was clearly shifted to 3d for most important devs, at least it had way better arcade ports than 4th gen consoles.
The Playstation years were really awesome - such a varied portfolio rangin from true classics to quirky fun oddities. To me it was a bit similar to the c64 era - even some of the trashy games had intriguing qualities.
>>12516079>but the focus was clearly shifted to 3d for most important devsMeh actually many big games use both 2D and 3D Final fantasy ? 2D background Resident evil ? 2D background Dragon quest ? 2D spritesMost FPS games? 2D sprites The assumption that 2D gaming or pixel art went extinct during 5th gen is plain wrong (appart from the N64)Just look at the PlayStation or Saturn japanese library,there is like half of the games that are 2D or 2,5D
>>12516103>jarpigsIrrelevant doesn't affect gameplay>RE You'd have to be an retard to think this is the same as something like Clock TowerThere were a few FPS on 4th gen consoles but they ran like shit because they depend mainly on 3d calculations
>>12516103>Final fantasy ? 2D background>Resident evil ? 2D backgroundit's just prerendered shit
>>125161672D
>>12513036Back then the super hip nerdy smart sega guys made fun of sony and said it would go nowhereNow they all pretend they never said that
>>12515693Gee thanks Dr. Snoy!! I shall start with WII Fit errrr or whatever the soulless plebstation clone of that is right away!!!
>>12513036N64 had better first person shooters.
>>12515354The Dreamcast could've done better if Sega hadn't killed it prematurely.
>>12516919For 150bucks they sure the bettur fps
