Why are 80s PC stuff so underrated when it comes to the history of gaming? Almost everything that is credited to consoles happened first in PCs.
>>12514131Titles who are inaccessible and/or a pain to play with modern computers, in addition to arcane conventions that modern gamers aren't prepared forvsNintendo self-propagating their old titles constantly
>>12514131Because computers were expensive and most people couldn't afford them. Even the C64, king of cheap 80's computers, sold about half as many units worldwide as the NES did in America (not to mention the fact that all the best games required the floppy drive that not everybody had).
>>12514131There was no common "PC experience" in the 80s. The hardware was all over the place and not all games got ported. A dos IBM clone gamer in the 80s was in a very bad place if they wanted to play anything besides flight sims and sierra quests. Pc gaming really only matured as the IBM caugh up and then became the standard by about 1990/1991. And then the 1990s it all started again with the GPU wars. Again from one PC user to another they tended to have vastly different experiences from each othet.
>>12514250>Even the C64, king of cheap 80's computers, sold about half as many units worldwide as the NES did in America (not to mention the fact that all the best games required the floppy drive that not everybody had)Everyone had a disk drive on their C64 after the first eight or so months it was on the market.
>>12514250>(not to mention the fact that all the best games required the floppy drive that not everybody had).Maybe in poorope, but in the US everyone had a floppy drive for the C64.
i wish you fags would stop fighting. love me speccy. love me nes. the genesis and the amiga had the same processors. Both are Good.
>>12514314All them are good except the speccy.
>>1251413180's PC sucked balls, thats whyeven the speccy was better
>>12514290why was the coat of arms changed for the macintosh version?
So, you fire up one of critically acclaimed title, Life & Death, released in 1988.And it's like this: You don't know what the hell are those vials labelled "B", "L", "H" and why you have so many scissors and a little vial??????Sure, you know what BP and (Oxy) Gas means, but wtf is EKG and how to read it?You open up the manual and no dice. Zilch. Nada.So, get this: "L" is Lidocaine, a local anesthetic that can be used to treat P.V.C. (aka: extra heartbeats that disrupt natural cardiovascular rythm)"B" is Antibiotics, self explanatory and "H" is Heparin, an anti-coagulant.Also, "A" is Atropine, quickly; it's used to treat slow heart rate, when EKG gets relatively flat. If you mix that up with "A"ntibiotics, game over, Fisher.Also, that little vial? It's a fluid sampler, needed to check if there are signs of embolism, which in case you have to drain it with a suction machine and inject heparin.You got all that? Good. Here's another manual printed years later after the game was released.This game was labelled for entertainment purposes only, by the way.
>>12514370Because the people who ported the game were dumb and didn't realize the Plantagenet coat of arms only had one Lion before Richard I.
>>12514250>Because computers were expensiveTrue. But once one obtained a drive and a modem all games became free.
>>12514250>makes up schizophrenic story about c64>muh NES!>gets destroyed by everyonelol
>>12514164This pretty much. Old computers are just way harder to get into for those who didn't grow up with them. Shit, even a DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 PC from the mid 90's would probably filter the SHIT out of most people now. Imagine handing them a Speccy, a VIC20, or an IBM PC XT.
>>12515026>Shit, even a DOS 6.22 + Windows 3.11 PC from the mid 90's would probably filter the SHIT out of most people now.windows 3.11 back then was barely useable and nearly everyone lived in DOS mode, which is nearly identical to what most people deal with today. not much changes. and since windows 3.11 wasn't used a lot for everything, most people would be fine. the only time i can imagine them going completely ape shit is over the glacial speed of the computer and storage devices
>>12514131because no one had them in the 80s unless you were a spoiled rich kid
>>12515026not at all true, the 8-bit machines were _much_ simpler than a Windows 3.x PC
>>12514250The PC-98 will like to have a word with you.
>>12515326>because no one had them in the 80s unless you were a spoiled rich kidthe Speccy cost 99 quid and you bought game tapes at the corner grocery for 4 to 13 quid
>>12514294Not in Europe, which was a massive part of the market.
>>12515705What will it say, anon?
>want to play old computer game properly>you cantits really that simple. you can easily emulate every console game in seconds. to play random old computer games requires a 2 week investment of your time tinkering with bullshit and scouring message boards for solutions.
>>12515878>be you>fucking stupidreally is that simple. nobody else has these problems except fucking morons that can't read or refuse to read manuals and simple directions. stick to mashing your obese hamfists on your ipad.
i feel it mostly depends on your childhood experience if you didn't play PC games as a kid they won't "click" with you as much
>>12515885Most are simple, yes. But then you have stuff like this >>12514386
>>12515885t. has these problems all the time but larps that they arent a thing
>>12515925never had these problems ever in my life because i'm not fucking retarded. this board has so many brain damaged rejects on it that think pressing start to play any game on a gameboy requires a lengthy youtube tutorial and discord server. drooling retard.
>>12515878Most of these old computers just require you to know 2 load commands, stuff that is easily found if not automatically done for you in some emulators.I feel IBM PC and Macintosh are more of a case of set-up and go these days (that's how I have them at least). Most modern emulators either have dropdowns or GUIs with clearly marked options like console emulators have. That's ignoring the fact that most of the "important" games have re-releases that are set-up for the modern audience. The bigger issue I have is finding specific dumps of software that include support for certain graphics/sound types that aren't ripped out by some cracker or broken by a re-release. That's an autism issue though.
80s games were made by sim autists and needed keyboard overlays for a lot of titles. Players do t have time to learn 70+ keys for a random game they want to play.Pic related isnt even one of the more complicated ones.
>>12515987It was a pretty comfy era.
>>12515987keyboard overlays like that weren't all that common. best you'd get is a manual. if you pirated the game then you were shit out of luck. seen a few overlays but they were never used because they're made out of shit paper that'll fall apart if you just look at it wrong.
>>12515995The manuals were massive too. Microprose made notoriously complex games but so did SSI and a few others.
99% of ZX Spectrum games didn't require you to do anything more than type LOAD, wait a while, and type RUN once the game was loaded.
>>12515987>>12515993Damn, those are cool.
>>12516054You didn't type basic commands on a Speccy you larping retard.It was J, symbol shift P, symbol shift P, enter.