What I find absolutely hilarious about the new NeoGeo is the seething poorfags who are pretending that everything is overpriced. $80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothing when the alternative is $20,000 on the used market for a CIB copy.If it were actually about the price than they would just get it on Arcade Archives for a few bucks or on MAME for free and be satisfied. The fact that they keep whining about it online just makes it clear that they're seething because they can't even afford to pay standard price for a video game. It's just too funny.I bought the full set. $80 a pop to play on real hardware is a fucking steal and beats playing in a shitty emulator any day of the week.
I agree, but im hesitant to buy until we know exactly whats inside the new carts. I don't want to end up buying 80 dollar Evercade carts.
I'd pay at most $20 for an oversized SD cards with a 40 year old ROM on it
>>12515649I hate to be the one to tell you this, but that's all any game cartridge is. Just a memory chip holding a ROM file. Maybe sometimes an extra chip or to to add more RAM or expanded sound channels, but it's not a box of magic. 99% of all game cartridges are essentially just flash drives.
>>12515608>I bought the full set. $80 a pop to play on real hardware is a fucking steal and beats playing in a shitty emulator any day of the week.Have you considered trying a good emulator?
>>12515679Why play on an emulator when you can play on real hardware? That would be retarded.
>>12515668There is a world of difference between flash memory and mask roms.
>>12515714Ok? Memory is memory. But as for your point, these cartridges aren't using flash memory so who cares?
>>12515608Or you could spend your 80 bucks to buy a real MVS copy of Metal Slug today?The only appeal the AES has over the MVS is that it's ludicrously expensive.
>>125157281) because Mak doesn't have it in stock2) because it sells for more than $803) because I'd have to use a shitty chinkshit converter to play it on the AES, and that will damage the pin connectors.4) because if I don't play it on the AES I would have to buy an MVS which costs more than the new AES+ and requires a supergun, a custom controller, and probably maintenance like a recap, and all of that would cost a hell of a lot more money.Instead I spent my $80 on a real AES copy.
>>12515725We have confirmation of that?
>>12515608Youre the only seething poorfag ITT
>>12515747>muh pins will get damagedHoly kek
>>12515725>memory is memoryNo anon
>>12515608I'm sure you're sweating about making a bad decision and pre-ordering this, but you really did make a bad decision. If you really did care about video games there's so much cooler stuff you could have done with that money, and your time, and your available storage space.
>>12515747>I would have to buy an MVS which costs more than the new AES+Admittedly I haven't looked into it recently, but it wasn't that long ago that you could buy an used MVS with CHINA WARNING carved into the plastic from AliExpress for like 30 bucks
>>12515608> $80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothing when the alternative is $20,000 on the used market for a CIB copy.Nigga a digital copy on steam is like $5
>>12515625this is how I feel. I desperately want everything to be what I want it to be though and have legit fomo if I don't pre-order but I've been burned before and SNK doesn't have a great track record with this stuff. gonna have to wait and see before paying up but right now it looks incredible.
>>12515813a ROM is free
>>12515845If it's actually good and sells they'll almost certainly make more.
>>12515813>paying for downloads
>>12515608>dude! paying $80 for the same dump used in mame is like so much better than $0 and mame>real copycringe>>12515714>There is a world of difference between flash memory and mask romsnot really much difference at all except mask roms will probably outlast the flash chip but regardless of what is used the cpu can only access ROM data at a fixed clock speed. flash memory or mask rom, cpu knows no difference. still appears to the system as ROM like real cart should.tl;dr: nobody cares, retard
>>12515608>a real copy of Metal SlugIt's as real as any other bootleg. Having SNK's blessing doesn't make it different.
>>12515924>not much difference >except the fact one will long outlive the other>just pay 80 for the inferior option No.
>>12515884I doubt it. Things like the mini Nintendo consoles definitely had mass appeal but AES clones is something that will saturate very quickly. If I was selling this I'd do 2 or 3 "limited" runs. FOMO works so fucking good on collectors it's like a cheat code that prints money. Analogue could make an FPGA Panasonic 3DO, a system that was undeniable shit, and it would sell 50k copies before anybody realized they bought trash. I bet you over half the people who buy the AES clones are going to play them for less than 20 hours lifetime.
>>12516194i said "probably" but it's not certain. mask roms are expensive to produce. $80, mask roms and limited runs? not going to happen. it'll be some some chink flash chip and a tiny micro controller, probably with encryption.
>>12515608Where have you seen this? If anything I have seen people both here and elsewhere saying that it's almost suspiciously cheap and they are worried that it's lying about using asics or has some shoddy quality/parts inside for that price.I have also seen people mostly complaining about how absurdly expensive the Neo-Geo flashcarts are and wish someone would make a new cheaper one like how the N64 got that cheaper Summercart.
Physical NeoGeo was always expensive, even before the collector's market, so none of this is really new.Emulation already exists for those who want to play the games without paying out the ass.
>>12516310I just want a reasonably priced mvs adapter. I refuse to believe the costs they are sold for reflects the actual manufacturing costs, and not just to fleece neogeo collectors.
>>12515608The rom is free.collector fags don't play games.>>12516310buying this instead of just emulating is so dumb
>>12515767I ordered the ultimate bundle, I'm neither seething nor a poorfag.
>>12515768Chinkshit isn't beveled, it will literally destroy your hardware.>>12515779You say that as if buying this somehow makes me unable to buy other games, or as if this will take up all of the space in my house which is absurd. You're a retard.>>12515802Thats like claiming the famiclones on AliExpress are real Famicom's.
>>12515813That's emulation though, which sucks. This is real hardware.
>>12515813Some of you are just never going to get it. I wish there were two /vr/s. One for original hardware and physical chads, and one for whatever you “people” are. Go brag about how you “played Pokemon on your phone and it was fine” somewhere else. You sicken me.
>>12516194It's not using flash memory you retard
>>12516241>>12516304It's not a limited run.>>12516756Cope
>>12516874The one for chads would just turn to shit because the seething faggots would come in and shit the place up.
Kinda hope this takes off. Obviously AES is the most extreme scenario of expensive old hardware/games, so it's the most lucrative platform to manufacture new consoles/carts. But I hope this is something that takes off and other companies start reissuing games for other retro systems too. Would obviously never happen with jewtendo, but I can envision this happening for sega and sony systems, of particularly desirable and expensive games. SotN, Snatcher, Radiant Silvergun, Silent Hill, etcI like to own physical copies of games but I don't care about "muh first edition, muh reprint" stuff like that. It'd be cool to get official reissues and have the proper boxart or whatever.
>>12516920>Would obviously never happen with jewtendoStranger things have happened. I would argue that this lines up very well with Nintendo's company philosophy and that if there's clear demand for something like this they just might dip their foot in the water.
>>12516920I want a new Saturn model and Saturn reprints so bad I’d give my left nut for one. Two of my Saturn games don’t play anymore, and one console is suffering from a failing disc drive. Let’s not even get into how expensive some games are. Imagine getting to play all those Japanese games that never got US releases on official hardware. There is now a more than 0% chance that this could happen and it gives me hope. Nintendo on the other hand, yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath. Once those arrogant pricks stick to something (paying a subscription to play roms) they rarely ever budge.
>>12515608Overpriced shit vs hyper inflated price of collector are different.While i would understand it for unique hardware that is in working state, is not understandable for hardware that is already documented and emulated.For example 9 thousand dollars for old nvidia gpu is fine because is not documented, second is not emulated, third most nvidia gpu pre 2015 were prone to fail quickly so a working one is a miracle on itself but a console that could be simply a pendrive for cartridges that has a windows embedded while the system is just a regular low end cpu it can't be understood, is kinda similar to exarcadia shit which is just a pc with modified pendrives as "cartridges" and in that end it was windows embedded with custom mame (which they simply asked for a core that they took down later) and a rom and that neogeo could be the same.
>>12516886>I'm not seething you arelol
>>12515608>. $80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothing when the alternative is $20,000 on the used market for a CIB copy.This is just cognitive bias, mistaking something as cheap when in reality it’s quite expensive for what it is, a “copy” of the real thing. Do you even know the details of what’s in the cart? Will it be flash memory? Will they address bugs/discrepancies if there are any? They’ve only shown renders of the carts themselves. Spend your money as you see fit but some healthy skepticism is warranted here.
Retard here, will one of these work with the AES+?https://insurrectionindustries.com/product/snk-neo-geo-aes-rgb-scart-cable/I have a PVM
>>12517140They literally haven’t shown the back of the console yet, lol.
>>12517148ok ill hold offlol
1) does the console itself have the original analogue AV output or is going to be HDMI slop?2) are the carts actual ROM carts or are they just going to be flash memory in an oversized plastic case? At any rate, I might get this for the controller alone regardless of the above
>>12517074tldr - poorfag>>12517078I write like a gay retard, but you are a gay retard which is far worse than just writing like one.
>>12517131$80 is literally nothing.>a “copy” of the real thingIt is the real thing.>>12517148Yeah they have.
>>12517170It has an HDMI port and an analog video jack for CRT's. USB-C for power.
>>12517176
>>12517182Look at him go! What a good boy
>>12517180>USB-C for powersoulless
>>12515608I want it but I'll wait until Zion sells the freaked version.
>>12516875Proof? I'm hoping it isn't, but i have yet to see official details on whats in the carts.
>>12516756Emu fags don't play games. They just download full sets, tinker with settings and then have choice paralysis and maybe dick around in the most popular games for 5 minutes.
>>12516920Regarding Snatcher, im certain Limited Run was planning on doing a reprint that is either on the back burner, or failed to manifest along with the English Rondo of Blood cd. They have reprinted Sega CD games and released a Snatcher soundtrack literally in a US Sega CD case, plus they are on good terms with Konami. All the pieces are there, unless Kojimbo's involvement somehow spoils any kind of re release, or rights to the English dub.
>>12516936Idk, i was hoping they would do more of those modern Game&Watch systems, something that was a fine idea for anniversary releases, and even those died out. Really was hoping we would see others for Metroid, or Fire Emblem or even a Mother one with all three games. Hell, you can't even buy individual downloads from them anymore unless its from a Hamster arcade archive or GameFreak doing Pokemon shit.
I'm a neet poorfag and I'm looking for a job just to afford it.
>>12516870>Thats like claiming the famiclones on AliExpress are real Famicom's.These are real MVS systems, same ones that get gutted for use in consolized MVS machines.It's a combination of real chinese imports from back in the day, and electronic waste from other places such as South America. Where did you think all those old MVS systems go after they disappeared from public view?
>>12517267True but it stops retards from plugging in the wrong power brick and cooking their console
I will simply never preorder
>>12517352That's a beautiful thing anon however it is not responsible to invest all your money in one thing. What happens if it's shit or it breaks? Would you an hero or just save up all over again? Only pursue this if you can handle losing it all and starting again. That's the healthy mentality. And feeling motivated again like this is great. Hope it makes sense, fren.t. neet who got scammed one time
>>12517312>Emu fags don't play games. They just download full sets, tinker with settings
>>12517504I feel like i lose interest really fast with emulation. It's like watching a DVD vs streaming where doing a physical ritual to really sit down and watch or play connects you a bit more. With emulators I just kind of look at my game files and then get side tracked.
>>12515608it's le heckin muh system on a chip (glorified emulation) in an AES mold with wireless controllers, and the games are just gonna be SD cards inside of giant shells instead of real silicon bits and bobs. also, just wait until you see how cheap and shitty everything feels, the plastic will have a completely different texture because everything plastic is made out of jamal's recycled pepsi bottles now. mind you, the original AES already felt like shit and was feather light and creaked at the slightest touch, so just imagine how shitty this modern tranny incarnation is gonna feel. for the $1000 you'd spend on this soibox, you could just buy an OG AES and a flashcart and at least be able to say you were playing on something that a chainsmoking jap played 35 years ago (read: soul), while also getting access to all of the games. this is a product marketed exclusively to the fat retard demographic.
>>12516873<Sitting on your comfy couch fully reclined, under a blanket, playing on a 75 inch screen with LED backliting with a wirelss Xbox one controller, and 5 speaker surround sound with your weiner dog asleep under a blanket between your legs, totally for free.I mean I've played the original on a cabinet back in the day and since and the experience on my couch is a lot cozier. Hell I have a Star Wars cabinet and prefer the emulated version since I have a yoke USB controller.
>>12515608>>12515625>im hesitant to buy until we know exactly whats insideI'm adopting the same mentality because SNK already put out the Neo Geo X and the Arcade Stick Pro in the past, and emulation aside the physical hardware in both of those products wasn't that great.I'll wait until people actually get their hands on these before I decide on putting money down it even if it's too late by then.
>>12515608but that's an emulator
>>12517170>2) are the carts actual ROM carts or are they just going to be flash memory in an oversized plastic case?going theory is roms in flash chips w/micro controller. i think some anons here still think it's 1980s and we're going to see double board original carts that cost $500+ each and cost $100 to make. too much meth being consumed here i think.
>imagine paying hundreds of dollars to play old games that are available for free everywhereNiche of retards
>>12516920It won't take off because scalpers will buy it en masse and continue flipping them on ebay if SNK is foolish enough to do a continued run of these.
>>12517631Imagine being poor, wait a second, you don't have to imagine.
>>12517618The going theory is mask ROMs which are cheap and are exactly what the fans want. You just pulled that shit out of your ass.
>>12517584That was a different company using the SNK name at the time. And this new console is from Plaion in cooperation with SNK. Plaion previously did some stuff with Atari that was very well received by the retro community.
I got the ultimate edition. If it turns out to be shit or not accurate to the description I'll just refund my order. If it's good I'll continue buying the games from them.
>>12515608I think you're an idiot for paying any amount of money for a Neo Geo game.
>>12515714No, there is not a "world" of difference, especially when it comes to the end user experience, which when done right will be literally exactly the same.
I'll be very surprised if the lever in this is a recreation of the AES controller lever, the LS-25.My bet is it will be an LS-56. Or a crappy chinese lever.
>>12517695Cry about it, poorfag.
>>12517708Wealthy people don't buy things they can get for free.
>>12517712People who aren't poor can spend money on things they enjoy without even stopping to consider how it's going to effect their finances.Why would I care if I can get a subpar experience of the same game for free? I can buy the real version and the price is no issue, so I have no need for a shitty emulator.
The best Neo Turf Masters player in the world plays on an android phone with touch controls. In Turf Masters tournaments the top placings are always emulator, MVS, and Mister players. AES players generally appear far down the rankings if they appear at all.I just think that's interesting.
>>12517718Neo Geo emulation is perfect, and then adds on many other QOL features. You're an idiot.
>>12517720you enjoy your perfect emulation on your smartphone in your favela
>>12516870>Chinkshit isn't beveled, it will literally destroy your hardware.Don't really care as I'm not a poorfag
Neo collector fags getting dangerously close to bag of shit status in these threads.
This sort of reminds me of the Magic: The Gathering power nine getting reprinted.
>>12517698There absolutely is when your 80 dollar cart shits the bed because the flash memory decided to randomly die.
JUST EMULATE DONT CONSOOM PLASTIC
>>12516920So naive thinking that if companies start selling their old games, will do it for the obscure ones instead of the cheap popular ones.
>>125178642026 Switch 2
>>12517712That's actually not true at all, especially when its a time investment vs paying with no time investment.
>>12517720>Neo Geo emulation is perfectNo it isn't. Even the NES doesn't have perfect emulation and that's drastically weaker hardware.
>>12517719Sure, and Billy Mitchell set his DK score in MAME. What's your point?
>>12517864You don't even know if it's flash memory or not. You're just making up fake problems to get mad about. And even if it were flash memory it wouldn't be a big deal. DS games are flash memory and they're still perfectly fine 20+ years later.
>>12517513NTA but for me, the act of paying for games is what compels me to finish them. Booting up a Raspberry Pi and staring at full romsets that you obtained for free and are 98% shovelware just isn't the same, especially if they're games from before your time that you have no prior experience with or any connection to. I even deleted my Epic Game Store account full of free games— some decent ones, too— and I felt absolutely nothing.
>>12517131Every cartidge ever printed has been a copy of the real thing, the files are all copied lol.It's real in that it's an actual new, licensed cartridge that is legally distributed by neo geo and is compatible with the original hardware. If you don't see value in that it's fine but some people do.
>>12517067>new saturnSega doesn't even have the resources to launch an ARM emulation-based Saturn Mini, much less for a relaunch of an authentic Saturn. Get a Mister FPGA or an ODE to replace your failing disc drive.
>>12517908Lmao I had that TMNT Shredder's Revenge game for free from Epic and I didn't play it at all. Then I bought it on Steam and played the whole thing.
>>12517934Yup. Without investment, there's no drive.
>$80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothingMust be great having retards like this in your fanbase
>>12517976Yep. Non players love those big heavy carts on their bookshelf, makes them feel like they’re very hardcore!
>>12517976It's great not having poorfags like you
>>12517990>paying $20 more than Pragmata for fucking Metal SlugYou seem awfully proud of being a paypig.
>>12517321Limited Run honestly doesn't really count. Even disregarding their scumbag business practices and false advertising, the fact that they make a, well, limited run of these relistings means they're scalper bait no matter what. So it doesn't really help out retro game enjoyers who just want a physical copy, when their shit is targeted toward the scalper-centric sealed graded crowd.
>>12517883Fair point, but there are tons of examples where the common popular best-selling games ARE the expensive ones. Look at literally any pokemon game.
>>12515608>$80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothing when the alternative is $20,000 on the used market for a CIB copy.See, you're a retard because that's not the alternate choice they're competing with. A fucking free rom is what they have to measure up against. Also there's nothing more ''''real''' about this. They weren't created at the time.
>>12517905It's not a fake problem until i see evidence to it not being the likely outcome. I will gladly stop doomposting and put my money down when there is official confirmation what the carts guts contain. This should already be standard info on their website considering the price they are asking from customers burned from similar products in the past.
>>12518118To be fair, doing open preorders has drastically killed the scalper scene for their stuff. There are multiple websites you can get their "limited" games at regular price, even their own amazon store. I dont even preorder from them anymore and just get their stuff when it shows up at vgp, since its actually cheaper a lot of times with free shipping and occasional sales.
>>12518024Unlike you, I can buy stuff that I want and not have to worry about whether or not I still have money left to buy food or pay my bills. Maybe you should get a job so that you can do the same.
>>12518128>emulationDisgusting>>12518161That's like refusing to believe that Abraham Lincoln wasn't an e-sports champion unless archeologists prove that he wasn't buried with a fight stick.
>>12518189Child brain.
The discussion camp is clearly divided by three categories:1. Retro gamer Chads who are thrilled at the opportunity of getting a system they always liked at an affordable price point 2. SEETHING brokie poorfags who still can't afford the Neo Geo after 36 years and try to poison the well with their poorfag cope so that nobody takes a drink and they feel better about themselves3. Emulation nerds who are also poorfags boasting about the free games they don't even play, albeit still less toxic than the true brokie poorfagsPlease don't tell us you're outside of group 1, right? OUCH!
>>12518229There's probably also a contingent of scalper jews who are seething about the idea of reissuing rare/expensive/collectible hardware because "m-muh investment"
>>12518229What number are those who use real hardware and have original neogeo hardware already, but are not willing to waste money on something that may not be up to snuff until players have it in their hands to test it, especially when that same money could be used towards more actually original stuff?
If multi carts work with this thing, I feel it's a good opportunity for someone to own Neo Geo hardware for much less than the going rate.
>>12518236If you need to wait for something to be tested by others you're in the brokie poorfag category, I'm afraid it's that simple.
>>12517990>I have $80, therefore I am richThis was me at 12.
>>12515608seems overpriced for a free mister fpga core to me
>>12515608Honestly I just don't see the appeal. Yes it looks nice but the Neo Geo wasn't really that good of a console and if you really want to play it's best titles you can easily do so for free or by AA or the PC compliation and even then its a very small list.Granted its got a better library than anything the snes pushed out but it cost alot more and the games themselves are easily accessible today via other platforms.It's a beautiful console and I get the nostalg grab but wasn't Vengeance Hunters and Final Vendetta supposed to be getting NeoGeo ports?They could of at least worked with those Devs to help release them for this as a type of exclusive you could only buy with this
>>12518528>the Neo Geo wasn't really that good
>>12518543How is that statement wrong?
>>12518556no system could match its graphics at the time or arcade experience at home and the system had tons of bangers. Poorfag copium
>>12518528Arcade games are fun to play with friends and especially at the arcades. Those two facts combined being the only real arcade experience.Neo Geo was irrelevant for the gaming environment in general because it was literally just a portable arcade machine.>The SNK Neo Geo AES home console, released in 1990/1991, sold approximately 1.18 million units worldwide>Neo Geo release price: $650 (~$1600 today)We can only assume that only sociopaths bought this system back then.What a piece of trash.
>>12517864Right, and how often does flash memory "randomly die" completely bricking your copy of the game, and how does that compare to regular cartridges that may also just randomly die? It's a "world of difference" so I expect that it's probably an order of magnitude, right?
>>12518726So your argument for it being "good" was that it had nice graphics, and emulated arcade games...Again, how does that disprove his statement that it wasn't really that good?
>>12518726They had superior ports of their games on other systems which would have additional content such as new characters, stages, graphic options, survival mode, single and team modes etc. >>12518768Whilst that's OK to say the fact is these people are paying 80 bucks for an empty cart with a tiny sd card with 1 rom loaded into it. You'll see Evercarts of these on ALIEXPRESS within a month with every single game on them for 15 dollars.
>>12518768>Neo Geo was irrelevant for the gaming environment in general because it was literally just a portable arcade machine>implying arcade games weren't relevant to gaming>>>/v/ is down the hall and to the left
>>12518834Zoomer, nobody back then called the NEO GEO revolutionary or a next generation home console.YOU go back.
>>12518768People complained about the Saturn's release price. Yet this was almost 700 with 1 game .....You genuinely had to be so stupid with money or a real time retard to have bought 1 of these
>>12518842>NO ONE EVER LIKED METAL SLUG!!!! STOP MAKING UP HISTORY, CHUD!>The 3DO? Everyone was excited for it... we know it was going to be REVOLUTIONARY
Brokies truly are insufferable, imagine having your world shaken and life brought to chaos for less than $1000 lmfao.Embarrassing, put the controller down and make some money, poorfag.
>>12518851I mean I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I'm the most financially responsible person on the planet but if you're busted at this point then there's probably something you can give up.
>>12518842They absolutely did when it was released in 1990, because it was.
>>12518768>We can only assume that only sociopaths bought this system back then.People would buy it, play it for a month, and then sell it back to the shop they bought it from. This is the not-so-secret "rental" system of Japan that most of /vr/ seems completely ignorant about. But look through any issue of Gamest in the 90s and it's filled with dozens of ads for PCB shops, and they all had AES+MVS systems and carts on offer.
>>12518851What’s funny is that it’s actually very reasonably priced. No one except extreme collectors are expected to buy the $1000 bundle. $250 for the console and $90 per game isn’t bad at all. Beats paying thousands of dollars for one game. It’s crazy how a retro gaming board has this many poorfags. I mean, if emulators are your only way to play retro games, then, fine. But don’t take out your poor people frustrations on those of us that can pay for a more authentic experience. It just comes off as bitter.
>>12518889>They absolutely did when it was released in 1990,No. No it wasn't. Even back then it was kind of a joke. Nobody was excited for Cyberdillo.
>>12518236Why would you need it if you already have vintage hardware? That's just stupid.
>>12518437>I can't afford to buy a video game for $80This is you at [current age]
>>12518928I was there when it was released, and Baseball Stars looked incredible next to what I had at home (an NES).
>>12518919You're just fucking retarded. That's all there is to it.
>>12519061>can't affordThe suject here is not "afford", but dignityImagine paying more than $5 for a 35 years old 10mb game rom inside of a chink plastic shell.You are being exploited like a prostitute.
>>12519073Not an argument, poorfag. Go play Metal Slug on your phone and let the white adults enjoy things that they plan on buying.
>>12515608It's a bit weird to me since the buy-in on the systems are really cheap, but in an age where $70+ games aren't selling for modern consoles, we're getting $90 reprints that I suppose the bulk of the money is expected to come from due to markup and all that, it just seems a bit tone deaf. I get it's great for the collectors and people loaded with dosh that missed out in the past, but for the typical consumer, it gate keeps them from trying different games.I bought the White Anniversary version as it comes with Metal Slug and was cheaper than buying the game by itself after buying a system, but I wanna try other games to see which ones I'd like to buy. I figure in my case I could just boot up an emulator or buy one of the rom packages they've put out over the years, but it's a bit much for games without demos beyond youtube videos at best to the average person trying to get in on this.Anywho, I'm a poorfag myself, so I'm looking into some options that work best for me. I researched the 161-In-1 multicarts, but one of the youtubers I watch mentioned you need an upgraded power supply or you can damage your system, and they have issues with certain games anyways, so not really sure I wanna go that route. I was considering like their Everdrive but it's as much as the system was back in the early 90s at about $650 pre-tax and shipping.The only other option I really have left is that I'd like to consider buying maybe two other games for single player purposes, so I've narrowed down to Twinkle Star Sprites due to an anon's suggestion on another thread, and maybe that Shock Trooper game, or maybe the Pulstar game? I've never really played any of these titles before, so not sure what to buy as I expect once it launches in November they'll probably phase out the first set of games and move on to the next.
>>12519060Because i like having back up systems or something to bring to public events and it offers a cheap option to get a second AES.
>>12518775More often than it should, considering I see collectors in Vita and Switch discussions describing some of their games shitting themselves already. You also have the Evercade carts which are notorious for failure. On the flip side, i have personally never seen anyone mention the game data portion of old carts randomly dieing and the point of failure on worn carts has always been some other aspect like worn pins or broken connections on the board.
>>12518851Of that 1000, so far only the console and maybe accessories have proven to be worth it. The games have yet to prove they are worth their asking price.
>>12515608WOWEE only $80 for Metal Slop (BUT!!!!! its cycle accurate!) now I can be just like Shinya Arino at the candy store!!!!!!!
>>12518919>But don’t take out your poor people frustrations on those of us that can pay for a more authentic experience. It just comes off as bitter.Why are wannabe, overnight NG "fans" acting as if "the hekin poors!" are the only one critical of this, and not the just as likely fact that its actual NG hardware and game owners pointing out the very likely flaws this entry level version will have and why the new carts have a good chance of being shit?
>>12515608Standard price video games for new, currently-competing-in-the-market video games are 5-60$, depending on dev sizes.Metal Slug is both extremely old and widely available for free. Just because some reseller has the game in some relic format doesn't mean that's what the game is worth. That's like saying cars are worth 6mil because that's what Andy Warhols Ferrari sold for.Not only can I play metal slug now, for free, on any computer or phone sold today, but their asking price is ALSO somehow higher than a game made today.
>>12519283When someone buy a vinyl of a decade old album, they could buy a new album for a fraction of the price on bandcamp or similar.People do not buy just a game here, they buy a product that is tied to a game.
>>12517531Funny cause I used to do this with my Chihuahua
>>12519087>The suject here is not "afford", but dignityNow this is, as the young people say, cope.
>>12515608A barebones reproduction of Metal Slug is not worth $80 lol
>>12515608If your life is so empty that you need to justify spending hundreds on reproductions, then go for it
There's no point debating anything yet, since you don't even know if you are buying a real neo geo.>b-but the text on the page says...No
>>12519140Just repair your shit if it breaks>>12519159I'm very active in both switch and vita collecting communities and I've never encountered or heard of any games shitting the bed. Take better care of your shit.
>>12519465The same text that says it has a switch to overclock it as well as HDMI but totally uses the same parts as the NEOGEO from the early 90s?Yeah, I think they should have just said FPGA without caring what people think
>>12519464The only ones who seem to struggling to justify anything is you.
>>12515608>What I find absolutely hilarious about the new NeoGeo is the seething poorfags who are pretending that everything is overpriced. $80 for a real copy of Metal Slug is literally nothing when the alternative is $20,000 on the used market for a CIB copy.That's not the measure of overpriced. The fact is that it's a ROM cart for a game developed 30 years ago they are selling today for 90. That IS overpriced because they are upselling the shit out of it. The actual system at 250 with the stick is super reasonable though.
>>12518229Anyone who "always liked" the Neo has already played the system for hundreds of hours and sees this announcement as a tremendous "meh".
>>12519429Yeah you know I was hyped for this then I realize of the games they were going to release, maybe 2 or 3 of them I would actually want to play. It is intensely cool and I'm still debating it, but at the end of the day it's going to be over 500 for 3 games, not sure if it's going to be worth it.
>>12519465>a real neo geo"real" neo geo aes stopped being made decades ago. Nobody calls famiclones "real famicom".
>>12519506None of my games have had it occur, but its definitely a phenomenon if you lurk moar in comment sections, more so in vita collecting. It could absolutely be a result of poor storage conditions on their part, but it does prove they are more fragile storage options compared to 40 year old carts pulled out of hot attics that still work fine. It resulted in me deciding the risk just wasn't worth it if a disc version of the same game exists.That being said, my skepticism is also based on getting Evercade carts, brand new out of the box, that had already developed memory issues, and while it could be do the company fucking up manufacturing or cheaping out, there is still no evidence this niche product couldn't end up having the same issues compared to the factories that produce Switch carts.More to the point, there is just no reason to use it when they are already asking a premium price per cart, for buyers that rather pay for a high quality item instead of something priced purely to be as cheap as possible.
>>12519529Are you a seething jannie?
>>12519619I don't know anything about what evercade uses, but tge chips in Switch, Vita and DS games are meant to retain data for multiple decades. If it was a problem than we would start seeing huge swaths of DS games that don't work anymore as that system is now over 20 years old.
Why yes I do in fact own Metal Slug on home cartridge format.
>>12518118>>12518229I think there's also a contingent of gamer chads who are excited at the prospect of owning a genuine SNK release without having to shell out tens of thousands of dollars, but who ALSO want a ROM cart rather than a flash drive
>>12519668>genuine SNK releaseIs it really tho?From a legal stand-point sure. But the SNK of the 90s no longer exists.
>>12519674real ship of Theseus
>>12517673>The going theory is mask ROMs wnever going to happen. this is only parroted repeatedly by dumb and immensely fucking retarded morons that have no idea how modern technology works. nobody is going to remake the same carts used 35+ years ago. you're fucking stupid. it'll all be flash rom because it's dirt cheap. if you think double pcb carts loaded with chips is going to be $80 then you have profound levels of down syndrome.
>>12519674>Is it really tho?absolutely not. snk died 20 something years ago. the only people that truly want it to be "genuine" are the people that have been flooding this board (and other places) shilling this trash console since it appeared on news sites, in order to sell trash to turbo losers and zoomies that never experienced neogeo outside of an emulator.
>>12519313Nothing like a dog snoozing with you fellow dog bro
>>12519668Fuck every console past 6th gen. Fuck all of them. Forever. Re-release the PS2, PS1, NES, SNES, Saturn, Genesis, Dreamast and Neo Geo. Fuck N64 though.
>>12517182Yeah, but you can see a USB-C power jack, HDMI and DIN port
Why did they change the button layout?
>>12519781its more in line with modern arrangements of buttons for KOF and the other fighters, having punches on top, kicks on bottom, and light to heavy from left to right. its not authentic but its a change i think most people will be fine with or even prefer. you can still use old controllers too if necessary
>>12519792>>12519781I heard it was just because of the mock up. I hope it's something they can sort out. >its more in line with modern arrangements of buttons for KOF and the other fighters,It's not though. On modern Xbox controller AB is still the bottom row and the buttons aren't in horizontal order. Though I agree it's not the worst thing.
>>12519801>not the worst thing>just unlearn decades of muscle memoryREEEEE they better fix this shit
>>12519801In KOF it goesA - Light PunchB - Light KickC - Heavy PunchD - Heavy KicktheABCDlayout is more like Capcom's layout, which has become far more popular than the original SNK layouts.
>>12519803Have you seriously been playing SNK fighting games for decades with default button assignments and CDAB??
>>12519821Well that reminds me of what my dad used to tell me. It doesn't matter if it's popular. What matters is what's right.
>>12519823Errr, why, what's the problem?
>>12519828It's crazy. What's wrong wit' you?
>>12519828That button layout is only found when using the Neo Geo CD gamepad to play fighting games on the Neo CD.When SNK ported their fighting games to other systems they always used the[light punch] [heavy punch][light kick] [heavy kick]formatting. They didn't change it on the Neo CD because they assumed you'd be using the Neo CD "bean" arcade controller.
>>12519825SNK themselves used this layout in all their ports, and then officially adopted it for KOF Neowave on the Atomiswave and all subsequent fighting game releases.
>>12519839Man I forgot all about Neowave. I wonder if they'll be able to port the Atomiswave stuff. I'd sure love a cart of KOFXI. And Dolphin Blue wouldn't go underappreciated.
>>12519841It would have severe downgrades.Make your own repro box of the Dreamcast homebrew port.
>>12519839It's also what's used for the Arcade Archives releases
>>12519831>>12519835I didn't think it was that bad, just inverting the punch/kick rows.The real mindfuck is the plaion cd controller layout which isACBD
>>12519934>The real mindfuck is the plaion cd controller layout which isUntil they show the actual controllers and not 3D renders I'll keep my opinions reserved
>>12519653Not hating, but these evercade things just make so little sense to me.
>>12515608These are just flashcards obviously
>>12520198No, a flashcard is a specific thing with flash memory or something equivalent, these would be ROM chips.
>>12520198>>12520226>flashcards
>>12520126I got a Evercade super pocket Neo Geo model a few days ago. It just feel like a more authentic old school gaming experience, with proper carts and game boxes with manuals, no download content of multiple GB downloads before being able to play. So you're not stuck with the choice paralysis of having a thousand downloaded games for emulation that you'll never play anyway.Here you look up the different available carts, buy one that seems to interest you the most.And you end up having nice surprises with titles you never would have played or chosen otherwise.Rohga: Armor Force is one of these games I never heard about while being a shmup fan and it's so good
>>12517312nah. you're projecting.I never downloaded a full set, that's dumb.
