>Within the first 24 hours, we took more paid preorders than our entire annual forecasted volume of the Neo Geo AES+. Since then, sales have continued strongly through our own channels, online retailers, and specialist stores. Seeing the console currently ranked #1 on Amazon US across the entire Video Games category is both humbling and deeply inspiring. The team are now updated our production forecasts ahead of the launch Nov 12.">It is also stated that the initial ten games are the "first" to come out of the deal, which suggests more AES re-releases are on the way.Hell yeah, I can't wait until November!
>>12528784Absolute tools
>>12528804You sound upset, Neo-Geo fag. Wanna talk about it?
>>12528784>kof02>mslug>garou>samsho5sp>turfmastThey knocked it out of the park
>>12528784Wonder if there will be an MVS+
>>12528784part of me wants to see pre order pay piggies get slaughtered, the other part wants to see them actually deliver a product I would buy
The system looks awesome for sure.
>>12528849Same here it's just a bunch of tardos soifacing at this point.
>>12528784I'm not an AES fan but I kind of want one anyway
I want one and I can afford the ultimate package or whatever, but on principle I won't order it until I see some hands on impressions from normal people and not paid shills
I have a feeling it's gonna be shit but I pre-ordered one anyway
>>12528892It's not limited or anything, so I guess that means you'll be ordering in November.
Is it available for preorder at GameSlop?
>>12529383GameStop doesn't sell video games, they sell Funko Pops.
>>12528784People want a fucking video game console. Not a walled garden always-online AAA-snoozefest games-as-a-service you-own-nothing slop-box.
Wonder if there will be a NeoGeoCD 2
>>12529459This should've been a NeoGeoCD+. The games would've been cheaper that way.
>>12529459I doubt it. >>12529475The games are not supposed to be cheap. This whole project is a refutation of the idea people want cheap and flimsy products.
Gonna pre order the white bundle. I’ve enjoyed my gold analogue 3d matching my gold og 64, and this thing looks awesome. Always wanted to just see one as a kid but could only emulate, plus compared to finding one now and games is so insanely expensive this is pretty cheap imo (as long as they come through w what they are advertising). Def getting Turf masters and obviously metal slug. Did Last Blade ever come out for it (I could look it up but I’m facilitating discussion).
>>12529503Well I looked it up and it did come out for it both of them. Aside from classic street fighter, this was THE fighter for me and my friends. Emulating it sucked and it was all messed up but the game was so much fun we still played it. Fuck, I really hope they release both games relatively quickly after launch since they are having so much success if OPs pic is accurate. Fucking love Last Blade.
>>12529503>games is so insanely expensive this is pretty cheap imoPlease stop saying this. I understand the appeal of wanting to own a real Neo Geo and official games, but it is not "cheap" when the games have been sold through legal means for less than $10. Sometimes much less.
>>12528784>old shit released againThis reminds me of CRTfags pushing their old tech on us.I got a Switch with FBNeoand a PC with FBNeo, both have extremely accurate neo-geo emulation with only 1-2 input frames of lag, etctell me again why I need to spend hundreds of dollars on something that will perform the same?
>>12529480>$80 for a Metal Slug rom in 2026There's paying a premium for a quality product, and then there's pissing your money on something stupid.
>>12529510Oh I’ll be happy to be proven wrong. U got a link for the last blade games for around that price, since this thing plays the og carts?
>>12529531>vine boom.mp3
>>12529535Aight well first off that’s not ten dollars and I’m not familiar w the actual set up at all since as I said I could only ever emulate it, is this thing like an everdrive?
>>12529531Both are available for $7.99 each on Nintendo eShop, PlayStation Store, and Microsoft store. Also available on PC.
>>12528784How do they keep releasing this? What's even new?
>>12529543I'm not the last guy you were responding to, but it's a multicart, man. It's got around 97 games built into it that you select at the main menu.
>>12529543you'd also need a converter because thats an mvs cart
>>12529547I’ve searched for it on eBay and it’s not there. It’s a nice pic tho. I’ve even search for the seller. But hey, u got an actual link I’ll check it out for sure.
>>12529545By the way GOG.com version herehttps://www.gog.com/en/game/the_last_bladeis DRM-free.Meaning you can download the game and put it on a disc to keep forever. Although you can't (legally) sell it.
>>12529550Right so… the whole point is that it works w the Neo geo they are re releasing. I’m not sure what the point of posting it is if it doesn’t work w what we’re talking about.
>>12529553That’s cool. Imma grab an everdrive type thing that’s compatible w the system, but I want them to rerelease it because I want to own an actual cart w packaging. “Bbb-bbb-uuuu-t it’s just plastic bro” don’t care want the new system and I want last blade on it.
>>12529531The Neo Geo Mini has both games.The Hyper Mega Tech Neo Geo Pocket has Last Blade 1. Per game, their prices work out to less than $10. They can also be resold, unlike the ACA versions.
>>12529559>but I want them to rerelease it because I want to own an actual cart w packagingBuy an MVS copy and a Neo Geo Shock box from south town.
>>12529564That looks like shit.>>12529565I think I’ll just pick up the anniversary pack and hope they release last blade and snag an “everdrive” until they do but appreciate the suggestion.
>>12529556it works but youll need to spend another $100+ for the adapter so it's not exactly a cheap way to play the last blade games. if you're spending that much might as well get an actual aes flash cart for a bit more that can play everything
>>12529580Yea that sounds like what I’ll do until they hopefully rerelease the games.
>>12529568Looks were not part of the requested information.
>>12529568So, I guess nothing about owning a NeoGeo is priced within reason. There's one AES multi-cart on Ali that costs $250 but only includes 40 games. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832849755584.html?src=google&gatewayAdapt=glo2usaFlashcarts start at $699, and MVS to AES converters are $200+. It seems the key is to stay away from the AES. Professionally refurbished MVS consoles are easily found on Ali for like $250, and the 161-in-1 carts are around $160.This shit seems like a money sink for something so novel.
>>12529568>That looks like shit.I own it, it is shit. The sticks an analog stick, the buttons are in awful positions, the controllers which you buy extra have analog sticks, it is a shitty experience, emulation is okay. Also there is like 10 different versions with slight variations on games, such bullshit. Would have preferred it immensely if they just made an AES mini and a couple good quality CD pads, hell, put the stick on top of a dpad membrane if you want to save money, anything is better than a long travel analog.
I will buy one with an aliexpress flashcart and I will be happy to have a home arcade machineNo amount of malding boomers can change my mind
Don’t even know whose saying what now, all I know is I’m reserving the anniversary edition and I’m super excited to play metal slug and going to pick up Turf Masters and a fighting game, prolly KoF. This thing is pretty exciting and the only people probably pissed off about it are the ones who maybe feel like this devalues their old consoles. It was a cool grand back in the day and way out of my price range as a teen, with this, absolutely thrilled to get one w a game and memory card for 350. Also excited because if this does well maybe it will encourage more companies to try and recreate classic consoles and release them. I’d take a mini n64, or even a re-release of the system as well as many others. This is just one more option to actually own the games you want instead of renting them digitally or paying a subscription service that can be edited or taken down any time a company wants.
>>12528784i think this is a really cool idea, especially how it can use old aes carts and controllers.however, neogeo is one of the most pirated systems in history.while hardcore neogeo collectors find extreme value in their old physical games, the rest of the world has the entire romset.hell, I could plug a usb hub into my phone, connect an hmdi out, 2 arcade usb sticks and put the phone in a black box so no one knows what's running it.the games would play 100% identical to real hardware.
>>12529510If these carts are flash then I agree it's just paying for plastic, but if the carts are mask roms like original then it could justify the cost. That's the unique sell, having the superior storage. Flash would cheapen the experience to the point of negating that enjoyment of having physical media.
>>12529592>So, I guess nothing about owning a NeoGeo is priced within reason.Other than the many, many ways to legally play the games other than buying an AES and AES cartridges?Like people are getting excited over games they've been able to play all along whenever they wanted. It's madness.
>>12529695It doesn't justify the cost. Flash memory is reliable. Do not @ me with FUD about this.Additionally, nothing stops you from buying the game on gog.com and burning your file onto an M-Disc, which will last as long as a mask rom.
>>12529695>Flash would cheapen the experience to the point of negating that enjoyment of having physical media.This is some real brain rot here. "I can't enjoy this game right now because this cartridge might not work in 20 years".You clearly don't actually care about playing the games, you've over in collector la la land where the idea of "having" the games is more important than the game itself.
>>12529706>burning your file onto an M-DiscThat's a lot of extra steps. The thing about standalone carts is that they are plug and play so long as the console hardware keeps being manufactured. Which is true as of 2026 and the foreseeable future.>>12529710Part of the purpose of having something physical is posterity. Yes, I want my grandkids to be able to enjoy the games physically as I did. And with mask roms you can do that reliably.
>>12529737>That's a lot of extra steps.1. download game2. burn game onto discIf this is too complicated for you then you got brain problems.> The thing about standalone carts is that they are plug and playBut if you wanted to play the game you'd be playing it now. >Part of the purpose of having something physical is posterity. Which an M-disc will allow you to do. And will be in a format more compatible with re-use for longer than the AES will be.
>>12529701I agree with you. The ACA Neo Geo games are $7 a pop, and were even being given away to Amazon Prime members sometime last year. Hamster recently started releasing ACA2 versions of those games that include online multiplayer.
I'm ready
Since when was 4chan filled with so many moralfags who care about piracy? Especially of decades old shit like this.
>>12529746It's not a question of brainpower. It's about being able to simply put the cart in a machine at any time and play it. And it's the complete, standalone, unique experience with the physical games and console.
>>12529760>It's about being able to simply put the cart in a machine at any time and play it.I can load a ROM on my computer at any time and play it.I could put an Evercade cart in an Evercade at any time and play it.I could play any of the MANY offline ways these games have been released "at any time" and play it. This isn't even getting into the ACA releases.And even then, you could literally argue that it would be cheaper to buy a brand new Switch, download the game to the console, and then never update it again. Then you'd have a physical legal copy of the game you could play "at any time" even if you were shitting your pants over the idea that a $7.99 download might be taken of the eShop maybe someday and for whatever reasons maybe somehow someday it won't work on your updated Switch or PS4/5 or Xbox or whatever.
>>12529768Well then you don't care about accuracy or authenticity. If you only care about accuracy then you would settle for FPGA. But if you also care about authenticity then you would need the real hardware. Hope that settles things.
>>12528784>Time ExtensionAh yes, the same site that earlier this same week ran an article about how people need to "Vote with their wallets" and not buy anything SNK because of who owns the company, now running articles bragging about how well the new SNK product is doing. (While also ignoring that they have affiliate links for said company's products)There is a reason I stopped bothering with that site after the M64 fiasco.
>>12529775Answer this: WHY should I care about "authenticity" so much that I am willing throw away money on differences that make no difference? There's no answer to this that comes down to the act of playing Neo Geo games. If you had my PC running Final Burn Neo in 224p RGB connected to a CRT + AV switch box with a Neo Geo AES on the other side in RGB, and a Neo Geo AES controller connected to each one of them, you would never, ever be able to tell the difference between the two. The lag would be the same.The sound would be the same.The gameplay would be the same.I remain unconvinced that any human being would be able to tell the difference in a double-blind test of which one has the "right" amount of slowdown. Nor have I seen direct evidence that FBN has "wrong" slowdown for Neo games like some Cave board emulation does. The ONLY tell would be that the PC video would actually look slightly better since it has cleaner RGB output than the AES. All the same could be said about a Mister. So after that, what's left? The "experience" of picking up a heavy block shaped piece of plastic and putting it in the block shaped hole? Of looking at the box art on a shelf?
>>12529798>The "experience" of picking up a heavy block shaped piece of plastic and putting it in the block shaped holeYes, you got it!
>>12529812You can do that with a flash cart, or a bootleg cart.
>>12529816Sorry but that's not the real deal. The satisfaction also comes the hardware being authentic.
>>12529821NTA but you'd rather put the extra wear and tear on your cartridge slot by having to insert every individual game instead of just buying a multicart?
>>12529475>The games would totally be a few bucks if they just remade the shitty NGCD instead
>>12529821>The satisfactionwhat satisfaction? And "It's real" isn't a good enough explanation. Because the alternatives are just as "real" in every way that matters.
>>12529834The only thing keeping the NeoCD from being a great console is the absence of a 4x disc drive, and the NeoSD proves it. Minimal load times for CD-quality audio? Absolutely worth it.
>>12529831>extra wear and tear on your cartridge slot by having to insert every individual gamePersonally I'm not sure why I would ever be bothered by this. It seems like being too precious about hardware would get in the way of being able to enjoy it!
>>12529849Ignoring the fact that you would have to dig into 35 year old code to refactor the games to load off a CD, which would not be possible for every game, you can't just toss faster loadtimes on a disk drive and expect it to work. Many CD based games break if you make emulators load them too fast. Even at a "modest" 4x that can not only break some games but would still be absurdly slow, it's also not going to get you cheap games. Digital-only versions of Metal Slug on Steam/Modern Consoles are $10 MSRP, they aren't going to end up a few bucks because they were pressed on a CD. You're an idiot.
>>12529854You're the one concerned with posterity, dude.
>>12529861>refactorSNK wouldn't have to refactor anything. Every NeoCD game has been dumped on the Internet. It would be as easy as downloading a bin/cue file from the Internet and submitting it for the creation of a master at any CD pressing plant. Nintendo has redistributed roms from the Internet in the past, so why can't SNK? >Digital-only versions of Metal Slug on Steam/Modern Consoles are $10 MSRP, they aren't going to end up a few bucks because they were pressed on a CD. You're an idiot.Cheaper in the sense that the games could be $40 instead of $80.
How many of us are preordering the anniversary edition? Shit looks fucking litty ngl the console looks kinda sexy in white.
>the AES experienceThis is a funny turn of phrase I've seen mentioned several times in the recent threads.It's kind of ironic because the AES experience was "the arcade at home". Which means that it was trying to be something ostensibly better than what it was. Like you'd rather be playing an MVS in an arcade but this is what you settle for because it's cheaper and available 24/7. I just think it's funny how the AES has been revered even though it was a secondary thing when it was released.
>>12529861Just delete the part that says it's a CD you fucking moron. It's the same game.
>>12529885>Just burn the bin/cueThey would have to refactor all the games that were never released on CD, the entire library was not released on the NGCD because it was a flop.>Paying $40 for a much shittier experience on CDI can promise you anon, nobody wants this. Also, you think the costs are from having to make carts? With modern forms of storage? Indie groups are able to make carts on their own for less, the cost is in the licensing, not the parts.
>>12529757>Since when was 4chan filled with so many moralfags who care about piracy?They don't, it's just one of many excuses they can try to latch onto to complain about something they have no intention (or have intention but no funds) of buying.
>>12529864I am concerned with posterity but not in a way which prevents hardware from being actively used and enjoyed.The advantage of mask roms is that when you are done playing, the cart will more or less maintain the same condition far into the future.
>>12529914I use lithium grease my carts. It prevents bit rot as well as wear on the interfacing parts. None of these things concern me.
>>12529908They are not re-releasing the entire library, man, just the games they published themselves, which they own and don't have to pay licensing fees for.
>>12529918Nice tip. But deterioration which occurs while actively using carts is going to be obvious, like when something fails and needs to be fixed or replaced. So this isn't as much of a factor when considering overall posterity. What makes it more difficult is increased passive deterioration like you get with flash roms. If I am not around to check each cart regularly, one can be less confident they can be in working condition as is.
>>12529908Neo Geo CD autists have already cracked the conversion codehttps://retrorgb.com/neo-geo-cd-conversion-project-brings-spin-master-p-o-w-atomic-runner-conversions-and-more.html
>>12529926>just the games they published themselvesThat's still most of them. Check the Subsidiaries on the SNK wikipedia.
>>12529954Way more than most. AFAIK the only Neo Geo games not published by SNK or it's subsiduaries are:>Bakatono-sama Mahjong Manyūki (Monolith)>Pochi and Nyaa (Taito)>Idol Mahjong Final Romance 2 (VIdeo System)>Pop'n Bounce (Video System)They will be sorely missed. Hopefully SNK can get the license for these for the full library.
>>12529926First of all, you are ignoring that nobody that is going to pay hundreds for a Neo-Geo recreation is going to want to be anywhere near a NGCG re-creation, especially if it's only benefit is supposedly cheaper (by your logic) games, this is not a device for people who are cash-stripped.Second, that still limits you to games that were released on CD, gives you worse loading times regardless of a faster disk drive, and games tend to break if you try to use modern tech to make them load even faster.Give it up man, nobody but you wants this, and it's not going to get you the cheaper games you are hoping for, not to mention an optical drive will make the system cost even MORE since on top of the drive they will also have to put more RAM into the system as the carts generally contained the RAM on them instead of in the system. So a more expensive console... just to have shittier but maybe possibly cheaper games... for a release that people are SELLING OUT the fucking $1000 version in pre-orders already. You seriously think anyone that wants this would care about buying a more expensive version of the console that delivers a shittier experience just so the games can maybe be a little cheaper?Just get a fucking flashcart or bootleg multicart if you are that cash-stripped when buying a retro $250+ console. Nobody wants or cares to have these games on CDs instead of carts.
>>12529475>This should've been a NeoGeoCD+. The games would've been cheaper that way.No fucking way. The CD games would have been similarly priced. And the console would have turned out to be shit.
>>12529796>Time ExtensionThey fucking suck. They steal all their news from social media. And their opinions, articles and reviews are completely bonkers. Its all geared towards being slightly controversial. So they can drum up a little daily attention.
>>12528784Yes I'm poorchasing a Metal Slug ROM on a cheap USB drive inside a low-quality chink plastic repro casing for $80 in 2026.
>>12530043And it's totally the real deal, hear me! My chance to have a REAL Neo Geo!
>>12528784when? i thought this was fake emulation and neo geo IP holders cancelled it?>>12530047is this AI indian art?
>>12530043>>12530047>n-no! YOU'RE the jeet. It means victory BTW. plz give me back my lost izzat saars!
>>12529943>If I am not around to check each cart regularly, one can be less confident they can be in working condition as is.Needing to "maintain" the carts by plugging them in every so often is just the kind of thing autists love tho
>muh posterity>dies>neighbour finds his corpse 3 months later>puts 50k of neo geo plastic into the trash where it belongskek. plastic hoarders are hilarious and i always laugh when a natural disaster or whatever wastes decades of their life invested. such is life amigo
>>12530134>50k of neo geo plasticFuck dude that's like 2 games
>>12528784Remember when people said you can't make old consoles using baked silicon because its a lost art depite the C64 DTV, 2600 Flashback, Sega Radica and those crappy NES clones using it.I hope expectations are way higher for systems going forward. FPGA doesn't sit right with me either, just too much hardware when its not needed.>>12528804Part of me is ofcourse, make something decent and people will buy it. The other part is you dumbasses didn't know this already and thats why the A1200 mini uses an arm software emulation chip. They have been chasing the wrong market all this time like the Snes mini.>>12528892Assuming you can even get one after this. Some of those 7800+ released you can't get anymore.>>12529383Its at EB games and smaller places like that. I'm going to pick mine up in person, no quite like them displaying Atari and SNK in the shop window but we are getting there.>>12529559Metal Slug used to go for $5000, sure I'll get it again even though I own a flash cart. Most of those games were over $1000. What happened to all those people who wished they could go back in time and buy the games they missed.I pre ordered the white system, extra memory card and controller, Neo CD Controller and Garou. Might get more but I'll think about it, getting new sticks is super awesome.I have a console already but I worry about the power regulation and my cheap power supply for it.
>>12530213>Remember when people said you can't make old consoles using baked silicon because its a lost artPeople are still saying it, they don't think that's what this is
>>12529757Zoomers are scared of torrenting and being put in prison for it
>>12530213>I have a console already but I worry about the power regulation and my cheap power supply for it.What's the point of having a console if you are too scared to play it?
>>12529381The entire bundle is and they said on the website that they are numbered.
>>12530247Ok, so you might not get a cheap shelf that says neo geo on it, but the console and the games and controllers aren't limited. It's a normal retail release.
>>12529983Cheaper games wouldn't be the only benefit of a CD system. There's three excellent exclusives (among others), being IronClad, Crossed Swords 2, and SamSho RPG. The biggest advantage of the NeoCD however would be the studio quality soundtracks in most games instead of chiptunes.
>>12530252Don't forget the box!!!!WHATS THE POINT WITHOUT THE BOXX
Plastic hoarding is extremely degenerate.
>>12530272
>>12528784I give 0 fucks about the Neogeo.
Don't know if I'll get a system, but I've been thinking of getting a stick to plug into my PC.
>>12529796I discovered that site a few months ago and thought they were ok. Preachy articles like that are a fucking cancer to the medium and made me stop going there for my escapism. It has that resetera stech all over it.
>>12530257Would
>>12528784one word: Scalpers
Do these new carts also play on old original Neo Geo MVS systems or did I misread that?
>>12530383MVS?No, those are differentWorks with the old AES
>>12529381right now theres 4 chances we will get to see the AES+ in action>EVO japan and EVO las vegas (the biggest fightan tourneys on the planet, sponsored by snk themselves, of course they are gonna have to show the AES+ at either of those)>Doritopopes summer of gaming (while theres no events like the CES or the E3, theres no way SNK wont take the chance and set up something involving the AES+ by then.)>Tokyo Game Show in september ('nuff fucking said)if plaion are as smart as they claim, they HAVE to show the AES+ in any of those events.>>12529701true. the thing as to why is bitting thia fucking hard is because everyone who has even touched a controller at least once in their lives knows about what the neogeo is, knows about how you could play those arcade games at home, and knows how expensive it is. of course people was gonna jumo at the chance to own what was once unobtainable, even if its internals dont look 100% like the originals.anyone can make an emulation box or mini arcade, and i mean anyone, not just the corpos, but we thought nobody could be able to do what plaion is proposing.
>>12530050Retard.
>>12528784>performative gamers
>Supposedly 1:1 yet there is no discussion whatsoever about the biggest selling point>Release date is only a couple of months away in other words it should be ready for production This shit ticks of so many redflags
>>12530529There are lots of red flags: from the renders full of mistakes (from game boxes to the fucking controllers having the buttons, or colors, in the wrong place). When M2 releases their arcade-perfect ports in the M2 ShotTriggers series, they put out videos showing the game staying perfectly in sync with the PCB for hours, and they bring in expert players who actually know the games to do blind tests. That’s how you sell a real product, what do you expect from dead company owned the moors to extract the rents versus a bunch of passionate Japanese nerds.
>>12530890>what do you expect from dead company owned the moors to extract the rents versus a bunch of passionate Japanese nerds.The biggest disappointment is the public reception just being a bunch soifacing retards no questions whatsoever. I so don't expect anything less from the youtube grifters.
>>12530213>you can't make old consoles using baked silicon because its a lost artNobody said it's a "lost art", they said that the chip fabs no longer have the process in place anymore to make such nodes, and they were right. Nobody is going to be producing a new FX chip anymore, or even a SID chip. They can modify and adapt old designs to modern nodes (which is what this thing is doing) but you are not going to be re-creating 30-40+ year old IC designs with their original fab process without a time machine. Also, do you know what you use to prototype ASICs? The answer is FPGAs, the point of a FPGA is you design the chip on it before sending the design off to be made into ASICs. It would be functionally the same.
>>12530302I was debating this but apparently you can only use a usb converter so I’m holding off until I find out it’s possible
>>12530429SNK is going to be at Evo selling Neo Geo merch, so it would make sense to also show off the console there.
>>12530429>anyone can make an emulation box or mini arcade, and i mean anyone, not just the corpos, but we thought nobody could be able to do what plaion is proposing.You could have been playing MVS games on the cheap for the last 30 years.
the saudis are also planning on making new crt's
>>12531124>at EvoIsnt that where all the brown men assemble?
>>12531263yeah. Radiocative Yallah Yallah TVs. Cant wait!
>>12530272>don't own objects you like>pay for emulation like a retardWhy are you like this?
>>12530529>couple of months7 is now a couple... i remember when mouthbreathing autists were competent at math.
if I have a modern arcade cab that can play old JAMMA boards as well as modern systems would it be worth buying this over an original MVS board
>>12531267NEGRO GEOGIGA POWER
>>12528784>>12530213>yet another day shilling chinese made trash from a saudi owned corporationstill using fba and have every rom for free>>12531545sure. mvs boards are plentiful, finding carts that won't rape your wallet are not.
Seeing KOF 98 at EVO being played on real hardware is gonna be preddy kewl
>>12530932Some of the ultra stupid fucking idiots in previous threads shilling this trash were really trying hard to convince anyone that would read their shit about how there is a difference been FPGA and ASIC. Their reasoning for this:>Since it's ASIC, this means it's perfect and will have no problems whatsoever!these cringe retards on this board make me sad and laugh at the same time.
>>12531567>being played on real hardware
>>12531570Correct. The AES+ will be the hardware that EVO uses to play Neo Geo games at their tournament.
>>12531574>not made by neogeo before its collapsenot real neogeo hardware. chinese made clone of original hardware with snk logo on it sold by a saudi corporation using the IP. you make retards cringe.
>>12531579Seethe as much as you want, but the AES+ is the new tournament standard.SNK will probably come out with an official adapter to use modern arcade sticks on the 15 pin too.All on HDMI? It's going to be glorious.
>>12531563>finding carts that won't rape your wallet are notI mean it's not like mvs carts are expensive, people who say they are just point towards BNIB listings. Of course those are gonna be thousands of dollars. But a regular loose cart goes for about as much as any other arcade board, and chinese repros are even cheaper. I don't care either way, so long as it doesn't blow up in my face. These new AES+ carts are chinese repros anyhow.
>>12531584why would you use another arcade stick when the perfect gift from god that is the neo geo stick is right there
>>12531584>everyone is seething over a chinese made clone >not the shills spamming vr for days, they're not seething at all, replying to every postcringe. it's the fear of missing out: cringe retards edition.not working out well for you? sad.>hdmi>glorious320x224 or whatever upscaled is glorious? that i can do in any emulator? wow. i'm sure all those people using real neogeo cabs or consoles with high quality CRT are very jealous and will sell their real hardware right away and give money to saudis in exchange for a chinese made clone.
>>12531595oh yeah, i completely forgot about those chinese knockoffs. should be a cheap build then. go for it.
>>12531567>>12531574>>12531584Do you seriously believe EVO of all tourneys is gonna run a KOF 98 tournament on anything that isn't an MVS? Do you seriously believe EVO doesn't have the resources to acquire all that hardware? Don't forget they ran 3rd Strike on real CPS3s, and those go for over a thousand bucks each.
>>12531568Not only that the morons just accept some bullshit written by some ai on their website.What you want comparisons with a real AES & MVS, how dare you? Its 1:1 BRAH TRUST MEWhat the Magician Lord pictures on plaions website are of the MVS version and not AES?Just close your eyes bro.There has been historically so much conman bullshit around the NEOGEO yet people just eat this shit up.Absolutely mental
>>12531612An AES+ is better than an MVS in every way. In a tournament setting a PS5 can we swapped out with a Plaion machine very easily. I expect this modernization to make the AES+ popular and a common sight at fighting tournaments. Watch out!
>>12531673Stop embarrassing yourself. We know you purchased the ultimate edition, but you only have to justify buying that moor-chink shit to your inner self, not to us. It will never be real hardware, btw.
>>12529475Do they even print CDs and DVDs anymore? I don't think they even print blurays.
>>12531570>>12531579it’s an official hardware revision. completely interoperable with all the old games and accessories. It’s no different than a Genesis model 2, psone, snes jr, etc. you might not like it, but aes+ is as real as it gets
>>12531685They keep putting out new Lord of the Rings sets.
>>12530932There a thing called tiny tap, 100 people get together to share a silicon wafer and you can put your own design on it. 65c02 is still being made as well other old chips.>>12530243I have to check that I haven't been ruining my console all this time. http://www.firebrandx.com/aespsuguide.htmlThere is a 5V and 9V power supply, I've just been using a multi voltage PS like on genesis set to 9V. Actually I mainly play NES, Geneses, SMS and Snes, Neo I just play once in a while.>>12531563Have you seen the prices of original NeoGeo joysticks lately. The Atari 7800+ controllers were basically identical to the originals except brand new.>>12530243People use it as an excuse why we can only have arm chip emulation.>>12531545Its the same thing, the earlier boards have a memory card slot, neo cd controller slots, headphone jack and a plug for an 8 segment LCD for something.
I want one but I wish there was some usb device with wifi and ethernet you could plug into it that would add the ability to create matchmaking for all 2 player gamesso the neogeo shows up with say a phone and desktop app that gives you options to pick your room of players per game and all that, but it should be specific to neogeo not using some existing team bullshit, and includes optional mic/audio so you can yell at each other, but old school style without the lame moderation I wanna samurai showdown whenever with people for as long or as short as I wishThe only real option to do this will be when the only friends I have that care come over or I go to the console game bar hereI really, really want one of these for that game specifically and it’s the only thing holding me backIt would be so easy to program up and the Saudis have unlimited money so they should get in on thatYou know this probably only exists because one of these for princes loves neogeo and snk and is some pet projectget all mad at me you know if such an adapter existed you would use it and couldn’t wait to call me names over the mic while we chop each other up in showdown this whole thing looks sick I have wanted a neogeo since I was a kid and yes emulation is great and all but having a real device is just the next level. It was something unobtainable due to cost for most kids and no other console or computer had the graphics capabilities at the time it was available. Finding the samurai showdown game at an arcade wasn’t a given either
>>12531705>There a thing called tiny tap, 100 people get together to share a silicon wafer and you can put your own design on it. 65c02 is still being made as well other old chips.I am not talking about them not finding a place that will fab a chip in smaller quantities at all, I am saying that most older fabrication processes are long gone and decommissioned. Yes, a few still exist because the chip (such as the Z80) are still useful today, but the vast majority are gone. Just because a handful of old chip fabs still exist to keep making a still needed chip does not mean all the old fabs still exist or that they are some kind of magic fabricator that can recreate any chip design in the past. You can adapt the design to modern processes (Which I guarantee are what the ASICS in these will be) but you can't just give the schematics to any old chip to a modern fab and expect them to be able to re-create a decades old process for it.
>>12531690>It’s no different than a Genesis model 2big difference: model 2 was made by sega. this neogeo shit is not made by original snk. it's made by saudis that bought the ip. it's like saying the analog nt is a real nes. it's not. it's a recreation. this is why all of your cope posting is cringe
>>12531789>model 2 was made by sega. this neogeo shit is not made by original snkYou might be genuinely retarded
>>12531705>I mainly play NES, Geneses, SMS and Snes
M2 dev Naito Tokihiro is getting an AES+ with intentions of developing software for it.
>>12531552>NEGRO GEOkeeeek
>>12531612>Do you seriously believe EVO of all tourneys is gonna run a KOF 98 tournament on anything that isn't an MVS?If it's a main stage tournament then yes absolutely I do.If it was a side tourney it would be, and probably already has been, run on a Mister. You're out of the loop on this stuff.
>>12531779Look you guys The way this works is on a pure digital signals level between chips if something is made with an FPGA or with the original hardware if everything lines up 100% there is no difference These are digital signals sent back and forth, little square waves generated, digital messages. There is no difference if the FPGA generates the signal and has no capability for delay or issue compared to the original hardware. None. Not a difference in any possible way. You program a FPGA using a circuit design language like verilog and if you say you want something that acts like a 555 timer chip, it acts exactly the same. That’s why FPGAs exist and are used. It’s at a lower level than software. If the new negeo uses asics that act exactly as the older specification but are different chips it doesn’t fucking matter. The spec is the same the digital signals are the same. It’s like a black box the cartridge inserted has no idea it’s the new or old. Unless they fuck it up but the spec here isn’t super complicated it’s an older computer inside the console. Neogeo games were written in C and assembly. This isn’t some insane undertaking.This is like audiophile arguments, completely based on beliefs not based in reality. Of course if they fuck up the specification implementation then yes it’s different but come on how difficult is this to do, it’s an arcade cab from almost 40 years ago.
>>12531545No.
>>12531779moving the goalposts
>>12531813Could SNK have technical information that would make their new chips that 0.01% more accurate than the current FPGA neo geo core which is already insanely accurate?
>>12531820More like they'd have the money to do a fresh decapping of the original chips to get a higher resolution picture and more slices, and re-confirm everything. Maybe a 0.01% improvement, yeah.
Why does everyone just assume they will use a clone 68000 and Z80?Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.
>>12531820Essentially what you’re up against is the capability of whatever FPGA is used, how much power does it have. If the overhead is well there and the specification is perfectly written for it, there should be absolutely no difference. They use shit like FPGAs to replace old boards in things that are not gaming but in industry, not only as a method for new hardware. In some cases using a FPGA could be cheaper. I think the real appeal here for this and target audience is for people that want a physical system that is SNK intellectual property. I mean it would be awesome if the hardware was exactly the same but for cost reasons to make enough consoles I am sure the electrical engineers realized they could use slightly different stuff with no issues cheaper per unit, since the tech here is so old. It just makes too much business sense. Also what if some of those chips aren’t fabricated anymore? Because they are so old. Then that’s a huge problem. I am sure the total technical details will remain within the development team but hey whatever as long as they don’t make any mistakes.
>>12531826same to you buddy
>>12531813I just use the Lego analogy.If I have a Lego castle, and then I take pictures of it being taken apart piece by piece, I can then rebuild that Lego castle perfectly with new Legos. If parts of a picture are blurry/missing I can still fill in the gaps in the castle with high confidence.
>>12531830I'm not the one offering a product for sale with a bunch claims.It's up to them to show us that they're not a bunch of bullshiters.
>>12531834We only go by what they said theyre doingYou're the one that made assumptions that they're not doing it
>>12531829>I think the real appeal here for this and target audience is for people that want a physical system that is SNK intellectual property.Yes but also it can't be emulation because those people believe emulation is "bad" and "not real" for reasons they can't personally explain beyond "I just don't like it". Especially when confronted with the realities of modern emulation potential.
>>12531835>I take it at face valueHoly shit, you my friend are a prime sucker for any shady car salesman or real estate agent.
>>12531825Newer capacitors are going to exist on the newer units and most likely they probably will be of better quality.This isn’t a tube amplifier it’s a video game console. We’re not worried about the exact analog signal imperfections in a shitter computer from the 90s made to play arcade games. It’s got an HDMI out on it, plut it into a TV and the digital signal converter to the TVs analog signal is more important and the TV itself is more important. Are you going to buy a matching CRT that was in the arcade cab? Just take a step back and enjoy that it’s actually happening.
>>12531840Personally, I use RetroArch running in an arcade cabinet for most of the reasons you discussed.
>>12531832Yeah that’s better way to describe it but some people aren’t happy unless that plastic block came out of the Lego factory and if it’s exactly the same shape and made up of the same or almost 99.99% the same material but is different and from Factory Blorf then it’s no goI understand itBut at some point it’s time to just play with the legos
>>12531837I agree that emulation in a double blind test will often be indistinguishable But there always some games that haven’t emulated wellI didn’t think neogeo suffered from this but maybe they have What sucks is I really have to save to afford this AES+ ultimo wazzo combo so I might just end up buying an extra controller first, play on emulator, then get the real deal.
>>12531813>if everything lines up 100% there is no differenceFPGA cores are rarely wire-by-wire recreations like that, especially if the core was not made with the intention to be fabricated on a chip. Even if it was, the design would need to be changed to be fabricated on a modern process, and likely would have optimizations or changes put into place as well (We already know the system will have HDMI output and overclocking options).>These are digital signals sent back and forth, little square waves generated, digital messages.The main reason the SID chip is so hard to replicate is because it had analog components, not all chips were always 100% digital, especially back then.>There is no difference if the FPGA generates the signal and has no capability for delay or issue compared to the original hardware. None. Not a difference in any possible way.That's not how it works, FPGAs have their own limits and clock speeds as well.Also, you appear to have missed the point of my argument entirely. I wasn't saying they could not make it out of ASICs, in fact, I said it is going to be made out of ASICs like they said. I was just saying that they can't use the same 35 year old node process to make literally the exact same chips that were being made decades ago, not that the chips would not be able to perform the exact same if designed properly.
>>12531850>I agree that emulation in a double blind test will often be indistinguishableI feel that heavily depends on the game and the person, it's a lot easier to notice in games that really needed quick reactions like Punchout or Battletoads, especially for people that played the originals a lot, than for some casual gamer playing something like Final Fantasy 6 to notice a difference.
>>12528784Is this an actual replica or an emulation box?
>>12531882>Punchout or BattletoadsNES games which are emulated to the cycle-accurate degree.
>>12531850>I really have to save to afford this AES+ ultimo wazzo comboIf you have to save money for this you should not be buying it at all. Save your money.If you want a piece of real Neo Geo history buy a few tokens from Neo Geo Land off of yahoo auctions Japan.
I've been using geolith retroarch core for the past three days. And i was surprised how advanced Neo Geo emulation has become in recent years. Geolith almost gets the yamaha soundchip right, it almost feels like a real neo geo in terms of controls and responsiveness. But then it shits the bed with having random resets in Metal Slug 5. Geolith is probably the pinacle of Neo Geo emulation and it will get you like 90% there. To the anons on here who claim that Neo Geo emulation is indistinguishable from real MVS hardware. You are either delusional noobs or spreading bullshit lies on purpose.
>>12531869I shouldn’t have used FPGAs as an example, however it doesn’t matter if something is like a black box, signals coming in and out as if it was the original hardware. I didn’t think there was any SID type shit in the neogeo. Now looking it up its Z80 and motorolla 68k, both of which appear to also be possible on FPGAs which yes have clockspeed and gate limitations but again it’s old hardware. So I am not super far off anyway. But whatever people want the original asic chips in the black box. Just buy an original system for huge markup then. For most of us this recreation is an affordable possibility. Plus I don’t want dongles and shit to plug it into my TV that’s LCD, it’s got an HDMI port and supposedly some crt filter on it with a dip switch, win/win
>>12531995Arcade emulation in general has always been pretty spotty
>>12531953Saving then buying makes it more like Christmas to me honestly It’s something I absolutely have no rational reason to own, a luxury item to meIt’s all good
>>12532013>pretty spottyAbsolutely. Some systems are ok. Others are absymal. Then again Zoomies wont notice. Because they never played the real thing.
>>12531953Just had a look on yahoo auctions and couldn't find any SNK tokens for sale. Ebay prices are ridiculous.Plenty of Namco and Sega tokens tho.
>>12531995You are an idiot who can't configure your shit right.>geolithUse Final Burn Neo.
>>12532030That’s true, and some will never experience unique machines like this
>>12532040>R360 spammer has entered the threadNeo Geo threads had a good run
>>12532042Huh?I used when I was a kid because my arcade set one up for like half a yearIs this some schizo?
>>12528784>We're completely clueless when it comes to forecasting demandSurely they're not so clueless when it comes to actually designing and producing a good product.
>>12532080>I like waffles>wtf do you mean you hate pancakesThe type of arguments on this board nowadays
>>12528784scalperseverywhere
