Soul vs Soulless
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>>12533290Standing versus sitting. I do actually prefer the look of US cabinets over candy cabs, even if the latter had better monitors and sound than the former.
>>12533298Bar stools yo
I don’t have place in my house for this stuffSave it for the barcade
>>12533290needs superior bat top stick
>>12533290I find it ironic that the land of fatasses made people stand up to play arcade games but the skinniest country in the world was the one who decided that games should be played sitting down.
>>12533290Are these Japanese candy cabs still made today? I saw a pic of a jap arcade and saw several rows of these style of cabinets. If so how do they make them? Leftover crt monitors, new old stock? I know fighting game people love them because they are lagless.
>>12533489The CRT ones (Astro City, Blast City, Egret, Cute, etc) are all from 30-40 years ago. The newest candy cabs you'll find are the Vewlix cabs which have been around since the late 2000s, but they're not super common like the older stuff because modern arcade games rarely use the traditional arcade setup, so they're basically exclusively for fighting games and Nesica Live setups.
>>12533489as far as I know none of the big males manufacture them anymore, but they're everywhere in JapanI can't imagine importing one would be cheap, though, as even importing figures and shit can cost hundreds right now, and then there's the tariff nonsense if you're a US AmericanGAI gives a range of two to three grand to import, but I don't know if that's with all the feesit might be cheaper just to buy one off of someone offloading their own and going to pick it up yourself
>>12533492>the big malesFaggot
>>12533290something about sitting down to play an arcade game that feels so lame
>>12533547What, you'd rather stand so that your boyfriend can fuck you in the ass while you play?
>>12533290I tend to agree. Looks so depressing seeing the state of Japanese arcades with row after row of near identical white cabinets, many of them playing games from the 80s or early 90s which are not really correct for those cabinets.
>>12533489>Are these Japanese candy cabs still made today?Yes they are but with LCD.
>>12533290Worst opinion of all time award
>>12533290For what fucking game was left used that weird button setup if it's not AI? I once saw a Capcom vs SnK 1 US cab that had both normal but also weird double buttons that is a big ugly gaudy one that is split in two, no joke.
>>12533484It was all about space. American cabinets were made for a market where many if not most would be placed in bars, movie theater lobbies, restaurants, and other non-game dedicated locations where the priority for space always went to the business's actual purpose. So Arcade cabinets had to go vertical so they could be wedged into whatever corner wasn't occupied by tables or people walking. Japanese cabinets on the other hand were made for a market where they all went to dedicated gaming centers like Arcades where they got lined up en masse in neat little rows. So they didn't have to be designed to fit in awkward places.
>>12533489>Are these Japanese candy cabs still made today?Not these CRT kinds, no. But they're designed to be robust, which is why you can still find em over in Japan.When a CRT "dies", a skilled technician can usually repair it. It's not like modern displays where it's usually cheaper to buy a new one than to fix. And because arcades were so popular over there, there's a lot of spare parts to go around if you have the right connections, and once you have the parts it's relatively easy to put one back together. But like I said, you need the right connections.>>12534256If it's a JAMMA game it's correct for an astro
>>12534256>many of them playing games from the 80s or early 90s which are not really correct for those cabinets.???That is exactly what they're made for
>>12534810Originally arcade games were put into cafe's, hence the cocktail tables. But that was during the Space Invaders boom.
>>12535084and that's soulless
>>12535149u r soulless
>>12535176I'm not a ginger
There is absolutely not a single piece of soul in Euro and US cabinets; they are crap from top to bottom. Even licensed cabinets, like the OutRun uprights and their equivalents, are just giant piles of turd.Even the Astro, which is the 2nd cheapest generic cabinet Sega has ever built is miles a head from every single Euro and US cabinets; they are crap from top to bottom. Even licensed cabinets, like the OutRun uprights and their equivalents, are just giant piles of turd.>>12533489Many of the cabinets are still active because they are sturdy AF. But The monitors are dying, especially Tri-sync monitors like the NNC and Blast City. But there are some alternatives, like the 31k monitors from Naomi Universal cabinets or converting MS9 chassis which are built like tanks and can be converted to Tri-sync monitors now.For LCDs, The Vewlix, Namco Noir and Lindbergh are already 20 years old. Not horrible but different.Lindbergh are really nice to play with but the Toshiba monitor and backlight tend to disintegrate literally.ALL.Net P-ras are the latest Sega cabinets, Nice look and good to play on but mostly for multi online games, no real head-to-head games.Noire cabinet and their little sister Namco Grigio are absolutely amazing and ergonomic (like all Namco cabinets) thanks to the panel been higher of 10 cm, which for non-japanese people with normal legs torso ratio is a blessing.Vewlix, the main cabinet now, had 3 updates (F, C and L), all in 720p which make them all obsolete now. 2nd vewlix generation Black and Diamond are more modern and especially designed for NESiCAxLive but they are already 15 years old.Vewlix is also heavily cloned by other brands like the exA-Arcadia Arc 32, and the king of bootlegs: River Service and their Delta / New Delta discontinued now if I remember .
>>12533290for me, it's cocktail cabs
>>12535368You have no idea what you are talking about. Lurk for 10 more years at least.
>>12535368I agree that generic Dynamo cabs are absolute trash, but c'mon. Some western cabs look pretty dang slick.
>>12535368I've been wanting to get an LCD cab to play Type X2 stuff, but given tariffs, I probably missed the boat unless a stateside arcade or home user decides to sell.
>>12535721The Crystal Castle is gorgeous, but is a dedicated cab worth the hassle? It’s always the same problem: Durability vs. Look.I had really exotic and rare cabinets, Take the Capcom Grand Q: beautiful, but a total fire hazard. But inside ? it's a wood cabinet with fancy plastic to make it look expensive, MS8 chassis with shitty geometry to deal with, heat like hell and a PSU that blows up for no reason, you're just buying expensive piece of shit that already burned at least 2 games center in japan recently.The Tecmo Urban in picture, look beautiful I still miss it, but in the end ? wood cabinet exotic parts and problems.Tehkan Lava ? stunning 40-year-old tanks, but good luck sourcing parts, Everything is 10x harder to fix.I have DECO Cassette cocktail, (on the picture too) which is 100% complete and working, was a money pit. I had to buy two cabs just to build one: one for the shell, one for the guts. Between the rare Mitsubishi monitor, proprietary PPUs, and zero JAMMA standards, I spent a 3 year and 3 to 4k just to have a "working" problem.I love them, but it's endless troubleshooting. Is the aesthetic worth the shitty internals? Probably not.Even blast city are harder to fix than astro, if you are lazy or have zero knowledge take an astro and learn from it, just avoid the MS8-29 (and this is from some who hate the astro).
>>12535759If you are in the US You can find lcd cabinet easily, just know what you are buying.A lot of people swap the monitor for some LG lcd or something like this.Old Vewlix for exemple have a plastic filter on the LCD that give it a unique render, it's nearly lag free Toshiba LCD and backlight but like I said earlier they literally crumble to dust. it day and night compared to general public retail tv even in low resolution like 720p.
>>12535759You should check out the arcade project forums. There's a new player in the cab import game called cosmo-logy, they've been acquiring and shipping all sorts of cabs in bulk to all sorts of places. They have a website, but their forum thread in the marketplace is much more active and accurate. Just get in touch with them and they can probably help you out. I bought a Vewlix from them last year and even with tariffs and shipping it ended up being much cheaper than the usual market value here in the west.Just keep in mind that importing a cab is a slow process.
>>12535880Yeah, I know that feeling. I previously bought a junker Naomi Universal erroneously believing I could find a replacement screen among other things. I was wrong. Sold it for a slight profit, at least.With what experience I have now, I think the best way to approach collecting cabs is compromising and using your own DIY fixes if they get the same end result or better. Hell, if I waited a couple years with that Naomi Universal I could've bought one of those 29" 4:3 LCD replacement screens from arcooda. I'm sure a lot of people here would stab me for sticking an LCD in a CRT cab but honestly from all the horror stories I've heard, I don't ever want to own an arcade CRT. Input lag be damned.If you're buying just to restore and flip em, then yeah you should probably keep them stock. But if you plan on keeping them, why not make them "yours"?
>>12535894Yeah, I like keeping things stock when possible. Unfortunately my Blast City has a Makvision monitor in it, at some point I'll get a MS2930 chassis.>>12535952Thanks for the suggestion. I was considering either a Vewlix or a Namco Noir, will have to see what the prices are like now.
>>12535980Depends on what your idea and intention is.But From my experience every time someone does this, it becomes shit. Custom paint? It becomes shit. LCD monitor? It becomes shit and worthless. Custom panel? You name it, it becomes shit. Converting whatever wiring to something else, yeah, worthless shit.Vewlix with LG monitor, yep, lagging worthless piece of shit it becomes.There is IMO no cutting corners, for arcade cabinets. restauration or from scratch.Mine needs are : I play a lot, I play VF series a lot, I do 1CCs and 2-ALLs. I play on PCBs and I don't play on Type X, Chihiro or Lindbergh.I need a generic and versatile cabinet, reliable, lag-free monitor, and I can play for a long period.2 Blast City, why? Because it's tri-sync, can do JAMMA, JVS, Model 2 and 3 wiring on the fly, with VF3 and a Naomi 2 NetDimm.An Aero City, why? Generic as fuck, easy to repair generic PSU, no audio amp, wiring to absolutely anything (there is even a kick harness and MVS wiring option). 26" monitor is the best for shmups and 15k+24k.1 Namco Exceleena 2 with MS9 monitor. Comes stock with MVS wiring, can be hooked to QSound amp, stereo sound, higher panel. and because I hate astros.The Deco cocktail, it's because I am a dumb fuck and I am a sucker for rarity.Thing is, I hate people and I don't want to beg some dude to repair something for me. So I learned everything from scratch in the last decade.
>>12535986Makvision is ok, to be fair, with the monitor.I built my 2nd Blast from scratch.came empty and cost 200 euros in 2023, tube came from a Grundig Porsche TV, which if lucky comes with the Toshiba KZN KSM tube. the orignal tube of the Blast.Chassis: you have many choices If you are going to use Naomi or Type X or Lindbergh, go for the Sanwa 29E31S, MS-2932-S or MS-2934. 31k chassis. Blast city has also an official Lindberg PSU too (versatile to the core) . If you are lucky find a MS-2933; rare but it is a sturdy chassis and nearly flawless compared to MS2931, for example. can be found in Initial D 3 cabinet for exemple. wiring loom, I/O board, audio and PSU can all be either scavenged from Sega Megalo 50 (which are dead thanks to the projector fault) or build from scratch. in general all sega parts are related to Model 3 systems so you can find parts if you knwo what you are looking for.
>>12536094>but from my experience every time someone does this it becomes shitWell if you do a shitty job you're not achieving the same end result or better, are ya
>mogs both
>>12533290>local arcade has konami candycab>inside is a literal who shmup>game is called nostradamus and developed by face>play it once on cab>get far in it>go home, download it and play it on mame>grinding and can only get to stage 3, sometimes 4>go back to arcade>consistently get to stage 7why is the meme "if you didnt beat on a japanese arcade cabinet you didnt beat the game"?playing on these things is way easier than playing on mame with a controller
