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Is the is the worst non gb/simons quest classicvania?
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No, the MSX one
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No it’s haunted castle, one of the worst games i’ve ever played
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>>12535331
It's not that bad. Play the jap version if it's too hard
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>>12535317
No, it's the best. Only shitters disagree.
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>>12535317
Why is it bad?
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>>12535317
Since it's not canon I don't even consider it a classicvania.
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>>12535395
Because youtubers told me it was a bad port of Rondo, which is my favorite game ever and I'm excited to play it for the first time sometime soon!
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>>12535317
No, it's better than Rondo. It's the only 16-bit game that feels like the 8-bit classics
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>>12535336
Play the remake, Haunted Castle Revisited, it's made by M2 which are elite cream of the crop devs/porters.

>>12535317
I only played it for an hour or so but didn't encounter any interesting/challenging fights, the levels feel a bit empty....it's just Ok...meh
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>>12535418
>>12535418
X is harder due to precision platforming but Rondo has more enemies, more action density, better and more boss fights, more spectacle
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>>12535439
Rondo's level design is abhorrent with tons of baffling sections where you have to scratch your head at what the fuck the devs were thinking or what the point is, its artstyle garish, its alternative routes feel borderline unfinished and are a huge step down in quality compared to the already mediocre level design, the bridge section as Richter is the worst section in any CV game, there are multiple long, extremely corny unskippable cutscenes, bosses are sloppy and underwhelming, subweapon balance is absolutely terrible and the best subweapons are way too strong (die once on a boss and now it's 5x harder without your subweapon), the extended whip attack is janky and awkward as fuck but many bosses feel balanced around it, the game is plagued with slowdown (especially the Death fight), and it was clearly rushed and never tested as there is a literal missing background that was somehow never noticed or fixed, pic related (as if the absolutely rancid alternative routes wouldn't already clue you into that).

No, Rondo of Blood is overrated as fuck. It was originally glazed by collectorfags just because it was JP exclusive on a niche console, so very few people played it compared to the NES/SNES entries, and they wanted to seem like part of some elite club of Rondo players and as a result acted like it was way better than it really was (similar with most hidden """gems"""). Now it's sucked off by retarded poser redditfags who have never played another CV game and blow through it on emulator spamming rewind constantly and hail it as a masterpiece because they want to try to fit in.
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Castlevania 1 is probably the weakest entry but people don't want to hear that because it dictated and defined the framework for the games so much. Honestly it's a loaded question to say that any of them are bad, because they're aren't.
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>>12535395
It's ok richter moves too slow and the enemy placement is annoying. Still better than chronicles
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>>12535418
Dracula x feel significantly worse to play than cv1 and cv3
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>>12535451
Is this a copypasta? I've seen this post before
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The worst Classicvania outside of the GB games is obviously IV.
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>>12535451
Is this written by a bot or troon?
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>>12535490
Only good 16 bit cv is bloodlines
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>>12535317
>non gb
Belmont's Revenge is good, poser.
You niggers aren't castlevania fans, and make these threads look like shit.
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This game is literally worse than HoD. At least HoD has fluid movement to play around with.
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>>12535513
The adventure and legends aren't
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>1
Wooooooooo!!!
>Vampire Killer MSX
I mean it's alright
>DOS
It's the biggest piece of dogshit
>Amiga
It's the biggest piece of digshit
>2
I mean it's alright
>The Adventure
I mean it's alright
>Haunted Castle
I mean it's alright
>3
That's why he's the GOAT, THE GOAT!!!
>Belmont's Revenge
Wooooooooo!!!
>IV
That's why he's the GOAT, THE GOAT!!!
>X680000
Wooooooooo!!!
>Rondo of Blood
That's why he's the GOAT, THE GOAT!!!
>Bloodlines
Wooooooooo!!!
>Dracula X SNES
Wooooooooo!!!
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>>12535317
It is but that's less a criticism than just damning it with faint praise because all the Classicvanias are good. It's like being the "ugliest" contestant in a beauty pageant. It's not the worst because it's bad, it's just that the other games are better.

Unless you count haunted castle because yeah, >>12535331 it sucks. But I consider it a bastardized non-canon arcade conversion not a legit entry
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It would be better if richter walked about 10% faster
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>>12535435
Is the remake somewhat faithful or is it essentially a new game? Adventure rebirth was pretty much a new game
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>>12535572
It's more or less an all-new game that only vaguely resembles the arcade original, though it's closer than Adventure ReBirth was to the original Adventure.
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>>12535505
The guy who shits up this board with retarded hot takes is effectively both.
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>>12535471
Not at all, the complete opposite
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I've never played a Castlevania game, is the Anniversary Collection a good way to play these?
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I think the changes it makes to rondo's controls while potentially sensible for the game make it kind of feel like shit to control. about as stiff as the other clacssicvanias but with a slow vertical jump.
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>>12535694
Yes. I'm sure anons here will find something to complain about but it's a nice collection with no real issues as far as I could tell and very fairly priced IMO. I-IV plus Bloodlines and both game boy games for $20 is a good deal.

But just FYI Rondo and SOTN got their own separate package and so did the GBA and DS games. So there's a lot to buy if you want the full spectrum. But the Anniversary collection gives you enough to decide if you want more. Play that first and then invest more if you like it
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>>12535317
Super castlevania 4, easy as fuck, sub weapons are useless and the level are a mixed bag, still a good game but millenial americans and their obsession with the SNES have made it a overrated game.
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>>12535864
>easy as fuck
A misconception because it starts easy and ramps up towards the end. Everyone plays the beginning but not everyone makes it to the end so the easy part gets more exposure
>sub weapons are useless
no, they're just not absolutely necessary but still very helpful
the level are a mixed bag
Subjective. I find them well paced and always with something interesting and unique about them. And the checkpoints are very well placed without being overly generous

The only real legit gripe about IV is that a lot of the bosses are fairly easy but honestly that doesn't bother me too much. They're all cool setpieces even if some of them are trivial. And the Dracula fight is still hard enough for my taste.
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>>12535864
>Americans
The game was praised in Japan and Europe too.
It's maybe time to accept all these youtuber essayists with clickbait thumbnails of "is this good game... actually bad!???" are wrong and most never even played the game to completion. Many such cases.
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>>12535317
Much better than CVIV, a game with inconsistent quality. I think Super Castlevania was the least impressive and had the worst graphics showcase of the early SNES years
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I may come as controversial, but...
I like both Castlevania 4 and Dracula X.
I also like Rondo and Bloodlines.
They are good games.
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>>12536168
Oi! You are only allowed to like one game per franchise here on /vr/. Go back to plebbit mr game enjoyer
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>>12536173
>per franchise
per console/brand*
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>>12535406
Nobody cares what you consider desu
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Its fine, it just feel jank and stiff. I'd argue it controls worse than the nes games
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>>12535317
I'm playing Castlevania 2 now, and it's pretty comfy ngl. CV2 with CV4's visuals and music would be so awesome.
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>>12535908
Dont agree but Thanks for a thoughtful and respectful response, you don't see many of those around here.
>>12536160
>The game was praised in Japan and Europe too.
All the home console Classicvanias were praised, except for Simon's Quest. But only in the US was SCIV treated that way. No other Classicvania, or even any Castlevania in general aside from Symphony of the Night after its launch, was put on such a pedestal. The status of SCIV became even more hyperbolically praised when internet culture and forum circle jerks started to grow. Even the Nerd helped to create that narrative.
It being so easy and giving you so much control over the whip and jump is honestly what started all those complaints about the " clunkiness". It is the main reason why so many people just ignore the rest of the Classicvanias as old junk or call them clunky.
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>>12536168
you are fine, the worst classicvanias are better than the average metroidvania or the scrimblo bimblo games
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>>12537073
Nah you just seem to want to push a narrative.
IV was praised because it's a good game, and that's it. There's no american milennial boogeyman. The same way you want to blame AVGN, I say likewise youtubers also push the whole contrarian "this game you like is actually bad!" thing.
You can have your own preference, and have another favorites, or dislike IV, but that doesn't make it bad and good luck being taken seriously.
Also the argument about IV's difficulty also got deformed over the years. The correct assertion is that "it's easier than the NES games, but still not easy", which is true to the rest of the 16bit games (with the exception of Dracula X which is NES-style hard). Nowadays hottakers all love to spout "castlevania 4 is the EASIEST EVAR!" while not even being able to beat it without continuing.
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>>12537087
>IV was praised because it's a good game
I never said otherwise, but not all good games are praised the same way.
>it's easier than the NES games, but still not easy
obviously easy is a relative term, remember that a popular meme song was born from a baby easy game (i can't beat airman).
>You can have your own preference, and have another favorites, or dislike IV, but that doesn't make it bad and good luck being taken seriously.
i said its a good game, lmao
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>>12536202
Outside of the invisible floors, it's a fun game. Most people that talk shit about it are fags
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It's decent as an arranged version of Rondo, but it doesn't feel as good to play and the enemy and stage variety is weaker. Rondo but slightly worse is still better than IV and on par with Bloodlines though.
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>>12537354
its funny to see people still butthurted with Simon's Quest (Reviews from Bloodstained Classic II)
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>>12536202
Eww no. CV2 had some of the best music in the series
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>>12537423
>Bloodstained
Huh? Is this talking about one of those fake-8-bit games which has the option to not play with fixed jumps, or that semi-sequel DLC where Dominique has to get out of Hell after getting killed in the main game?
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>>12537443
the semisequel, i didnt like the first curse of the moon, i heard better things of the 2 tho, on the other hand the classic dlc for ritual of the night was really neat
>spoiler
that's interesting, should buy it
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>>12537458
To be honest, I haven't touched the 3D one since the DLC for the IGA boss fight dropped, so I never played any of the new modes since. I only know about the spoiler part from random board-surfing, so I have no idea what it's really like to play.
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>>12537354
How much of it is fixed by a better translation? Is it still pretty cryptic regardless?
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5 is the worst.
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Don't see what's so fun about 2 and why is being praised recently. The mansions all had repetitive level design with the same false floors and pointless empty rooms like the one with hanging skeletons. Easiest boss fights in the entire series. I can't remember if Dracula can even attack you. Needing to wait for day time before interacting with npcs was retarded. Dying didn't really matter. You only lost money. Playing it blind was a very dull experience compared to 1.
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>>12535317
I probably like it better than X68000. idk. X68K is good but I actually like DX.
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>>12537354
>Outside of the invisible floors, it's a fun game
I learned to let enemies secure the floors for me, and honestly trap floors haven't annoyed me that much since.
>>12537494
>Is it still pretty cryptic regardless?
I had to look up two things:
>1. How and where to use crystals
I suppose one could find the clues and figure this one out without a guide
>2. How to access one of the manors
No clues in game as far as I know. Funnily enough, this manor would have held a clue for number one.

I doubt an accurate translation would have helped.

Oh and there was a fake rumor, but it was intended to be. Not a mistranslation.
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>>12535451
this is a pasta



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