What was the retro gaming culture like in the 2000's? I'm talking about people who were still playing Genesis and SNES games when the PS2 was already out. Was it even a thing yet?
I had a PS2 and a computer to run ROMs on with emulators. Early 2000s was the dawn of translation patches really being a thing. This either or mentality didn't really exist, people did lots of things, retro wasn't a fashion so much.
>>12536731>Was it even a thing yet?There were retro gaming fans in 1992.
>>12536731In my circle in South Ga, we had a guy modding Xboxes at the time and even tho I grew up playing nes snes genesis 32x etc I’ve beaten more of those retro games in my modded Xbox. In 1999-2001 all we did in computer class as it was called was play old games through emulators. I remember the spider-man games being very popular as well as Altered Beast.
>>12536731by then emulation had matured enough and bandwidth had widened enough to where SNES and Genesis games were more accessible than ever. Sprite animations were hugely popular and it wasn't uncommon to see retro game music remixes and stuff like that. it was definitely a thing
>>12536746Dude got his wish as those games have been endlessly emulated in “packs” to different degrees of accuracy.
>>12536731>I'm talking about people who were still playing Genesis and SNES games when the PS2 was already out.Nerds like me were still playing it. And also (really) poor people were playing them.
>>12536746I don't think we really thought of it as retro, At least not the way we do now. The time between a SNES and Gamecube was far smaller a distance of time back then.
>>12536821On the contrary, if the jump from SNES to PS2 was a few feet the jump from PS3 to PS5 would me measured in millimeters.
>>12536864sorry meant to say SNES to GameCube
>>12536731Latin America was pretty much 5 years behind everything every gen. I was still playing PS1 in 2004.
>>12536731I would emulate in the early 2000's, but the actual hardware was in a closet or already sold off to some random game store.
>>12536731Emulators were popular and accessible, but the people who considered themselves retro gamers were talking about Atari, like >>12536746 posted. SNES/Genesis was old, but still pretty popular. FFVI vs FFVII was a current debate. Atari was the old shit.
>>12536731> I'm talking about people who were still playing Genesis and SNES games when the PS2 was already out. Was it even a thing yet?Not really, I remember bins of NES games in GameStop in the early 00s all going for $1-5, it was always full, nodody was taking them. Even in the 90s nobody cared much once a console had become "too old", I remember seeing some common NES games being listed for a few cents on the Funcoland price magazines they used to have.Was barely even a thing in the PS3/360/Wii era, even by then I remember the vast majority of PS1 and N64 games by then going for a few bucks, I was buying a large amount of N64 and PSX games during that time just for the sake of it since they were so cheap, anything over $10 I would really have to think about, so many N64 games I got for $1-2, I remember Amazon having tons of sealed boxed copies of Perfect Dark for $3! I think the most expensive game I bought at the time was a CIB of Conker that I paid barely $20 for.Prices of retro games started to sharply increase around the 2010s if I recall, and skyrocket like crazy starting that decade. Same goes for people caring about CRTs again, I used to see at least one CRT on the curb a week for years until around 2015 or so.
>>12536908>FFVI vs FFVII was a current debateYou mean FF3 vs FF7.
>>12536731>What was the retro gaming culture like in the 2000's?It was an amazing time of discovery.> I'm talking about people who were still playing Genesis and SNES games when the PS2 was already out.This is a time when hardcore video gamers were still renaissance men who played "everything good". You didn't drop old systems just because new ones came out. >Was it even a thing yet?Absolutely, and the exploration of thousands of free "new" games via broadband internet and new emulators was more exciting than the PS2.
For me it was during 5th gen, around 1997 or so. I had N64, Saturn and PS1, as well as a PC, so I had mostly forgotten about the previous gen games and didn't use my SNES and Genesis anymore, I think the last time I used my SNES back then was in 1996 when DKC3 came out and then went back to play new stuff.But sometime in 1997 I got the urge to play not 4th gen, but 3rd gen (well, just Famicom, or "Family Game" as it was known in my country). So I went ahead and bought myself a Famiclone with a multicart since my old famiclone was either lost or my mom gave it to charity.I still remember the guy at the game stop (where I was regular) told me "dude, you really want one of these old consoles? you've got all the new systems, why the hell do you want to play old games?".My friends told me the same thing.Fuck it, I remember going back home, plugging that in and playing all my childhood favorites again, felt amazing, first time I felt nostalgia playing games I think.I didn't go back to 4th gen until maybe 2002.I never really stopped playing 5th gen I think, even when 6th gen was already stablished I still played my 5th gen systems occasionally alternating with the GC, DC and PS2.
>>12536731Old games and consoles were dirt cheap at the time, so "retro" gaming was cheapest hobby you could have at the time. Many times postage was the most expensive part when buying them.
>>12536731It was a thing. See SomethingAwful and comedic commentary websites from that era, both of which frequently used old games as a source of comedy. If you want to get more specifically into the realm of gaming and collecting, there's also the Digital Press forum aka Retrogaming Roundtable. In fact, I'd say that nostalgia combined with the increased proliferation of decently usable emulators during the late 90s/early 2000s led to old games being surprisingly relevant in nerd groups of the time. Just look at things like All Your Base, which was one of the hottest protomemes. Kind of on topic, but some people might find this amusing: an enthusiast's NES repair video series from 1992 (he uploaded it in parts to another channel, but it looks like he recently uploaded the whole thing):https://youtu.be/UVrWsesV_6k
my circle of friends were still playing old stuff along with new in the 2000s. i will say though back then it felt like games got "retro" faster, simply because of the technological shift to 3d.
The longevity of consoles lasted much longer than now. While people did trade in systems for the newest thing, others held onto consoles for a lot longer. My best friend gave me a PS1 in 2001 and I was playing that until I received a PS2 for Christmas. During the 5th gen of consoles, many people still were playing 4th gen stuff for a very long time. In fact, that really was the norm in my experience. The first time I really started feeling nostalgia for the 4th gen was at a party in 2005, while playing Street Fighter 2 on the SNES. My girlfriend at the times brother, was retro collecting Zelda stuff (NES, SNES) in 2002
"Classic Gaming" was common before "retro" became the norm. I played my half-siblings' Atari in the mid 90s, eventually bought myself a Game Boy. I frequently bought or traded for people's "old" consoles and games for peanuts in high school in the early 2000s, bags of genesis carts that kind of shit. Wish I still had any of it.
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>>12537192>i will say though back then it felt like games got "retro" faster, simply because of the technological shift to 3d.Even as somebody who held on to everything and never felt like consoles simply became obsolete once newer systems came out, I definitely agree with this. The difference in technology between 80s games and 6th gen games felt (and was) so massive at the time, that said 80s games don't feel any more outdated relative to today's modern games than they did 25 years ago.
>>12536731People way back when didn't use the word "retro," they used the word "classic," and it referred to the Atari 2600 and its ilk. You have to consider that there's only 10 years separating the SNES and PS2. The SNES was still getting major releases in 1996 (Donkey Kong Country 3, Kirby Super Star, Tetris Attack), and the Super Famicom was getting new games all the way until December of 2000 (after the PS2 came out). The SNES was about as "retro" then as the Wii U and PS4 are now. All of this isn't to mention emulation and piracy, which gave these consoles a second lease on life. For the first time, people in North America could reasonably have access to Japan only releases, which effectively doubled the size of the library. To the enthusiast gamer in 1998, Final Fantasy V was just as much a new video game as Final Fantasy VII was.
>>12536864Right but the jump from our old systems to our current ones was smaller than the time between our old systems and now. When we were on the gamecube the n64 was 5 or 6 years old. When we were on the switch the n64 was 20 something.
>>12536731I still played a lot of my older brother’s N64 during the 6th-7th generation of consoles when the GameCube or Xbox 360 were fresh off the market.
>>12536908I didn't hear a single fucking thing about Final Fantasy until 7 released, and nobody mentioned the previous ones.
>>12537221>Myth II Soulbighter up front I want to go back, bros...
>>12537221>was retro collecting Zelda stuff (NES, SNES) in 2002wow,he was retro collecting 3 games.
>>12538004Sounds based. He knows what he likes and probably got them for literal pennies in 2002.Nowadays bandwagon jumpers want to "collect" but they don't even know why because they don't actually like anything, but they cry because they can't buy a fullset NES collection for cheap
>>12536971The kind of people that argued about it knew perfectly well it was FF6 in Japan. FF3/6 was popular for awhile in there, but Anthology came out in 1999 and called it VI on the back of the box>>12537885Congrats on being a normie
>>12537184Yeah I remember when my friend put NESticle and some ROMs on my computer in like 1998/1999 even by then I was excited about playing "old games" which is funny to think about now seeing as some of them were only like 5 years old by that point. And when I found Seanbaby's site a year or two later I also remember conceptualizing his NES page as humor about old games. Not sure when I would have first used the word "retro" though, if that makes a difference. Either way I guess even 5 years is a long time when you're only 15 or 16, plus it would have been a larger proportion of video game history back then (if we go by the Magnavox Odyssey released in 1972 then video games were only around two and a half decades old by that point, whereas they're now over five decades). Plus the whole diminishing returns thing, the 90s had the craziest leaps whereas everything that has come out over the last 20+ years has looked indistinguishable to me.
>>12538004It was anything Zelda related honestly but I remember being surprised at the time he had NES games. Like the other Anon said, games back then that were older generations of games were dirt cheap. I found it very charming at the time myself, and me and him bonded over it. Many people didn't have huge collection of vidya games. I know I didn't. It wasn't until around 2005 where I really started collecting and I got my first job.
>>12536731Retronauts got started in 2006:https://archive.org/download/Retronauts1-100You can listen to the old 1Up guys reminisce about Sega Saturn imports and the latest Virtual Console releases. Jeremy Parish calls Nintendo retarded like every episode. It's a comforting snapshot of the time.
i remember my father bought a computer so we play counter strike but my friend brought znes emulator and we played with keyboard.no one had the snes working by that time
>>12536731I remember being in middle school and giving people that were capable/interested floppy disks with emus and a few games. I'd play in the library and someone would be like "what the fuck are you doing and how". Juuuuust after 9/11. Good times.
>>12536731It was for sure, I remember getting a CD full of NES ROMS + emulator for my PS1. Some of them ran like shit.
>>12539420I had a disk full of Neo Geo roms and the version of the emulator that didn't have sound. It's odd thinking about that, for a while I played Neo Geo games in silence.
>>12538223>Jeremy Parish calls Nintendo retarded like every episodeIt's funny how these late Gen X/early millennial internet people went from being edgy shitposty types to full blown "ugh is that videogame woman with large br*asts wearing a bikini? could we like not?"
>>12536731If you played those then you were probably just too poor for a new console
>>12539759Another fun Parish quote from 2007: "Inclusion is the new mascot." Boy, is it ever, brother.
>>12539027Why does he say that about Nintendo?Typical "nintendo is for kids" rhetoric or something else?
>>12539759Because they were desperate to become for gaming to become art, an unrecoverable mistake in hindsight.>>12539770Are people not poor these days? I don't see kids in knock-off clothes and always with the latest phones.
>>12538014In my experience the people old enough to argue between the two were resistant to calling it FF6 for a while. Only pretentious weebs and newfags called it FF6.
