>play yet another "hidden gem">it's extremely mediocre and underwhelming at best and was hidden for good reasonEvery fucking time.
>>12539467Sin & Punishment was great. Every other hidden gem I've played blows
Berwick saga is the best PS2 game
>>12539467>Game gets any amount of praise at all>OMG WHY DIDN'T THIS COMPLETELY BLOW MY HEAD AND CHANGE MY ENTIRE OUTLOOK ON LIFE!Every fucking time. You're a pill.
>>12539467Just accept that you don't really like video games anymore. It's entirely possible that whatever experience you're looking fοr just doesn't exist. That's life.
>>12539503I still like videogames, but 99% of the best videogames are at least somewhat popular.ALTTP, Super Metroid, DKC2, Mega Man X, Wild Guns, etc. All the usual suspects shit on Hagane.
>If you're not first, you're last
>>12539470maybe the best N64 game
>>12539512Wild Guns was Hagane tier obscure till Reloaded.
>>12539652almost all natsume console classics were, the exception being Pocky and rocky
>>12539652Hagane sold like 10k, Wild Guns sold like 100k plus the remaster sold 1m+, so there's levels to it. And Wild Guns is a great game, but it really does take a very long time to get used to the controls and for the game to finally click, so it's not a surprise that it was quite niche. The controls are great though, it's not a case of bad or inaccurate or poorly implemented controls (although I do wish lasso was its own button), it's just a hard adjustment as it's very complex, can seem counterintuitive, and very few other games control like it.But for a very straightforward action game that should have mainstream appeal to only sell 10k copies? Nah, that's just straight dogshit, you have to wonder how bad a game has to be to just have zero appeal whatsoever. It's just not a good game; even within just five minutes of playing you can tell it's a very low tier quality game from inexperienced devs.
>>12539467Not my problem
>>12539467>it's extremely mediocre and underwhelming at best and was hidden for good reasonSNES problem, play more games on better consoles and you'll find worthwhile hidden gems.
I suddenly stopped liking the Super Nintendo
>>12539467hagane actually looks rly fun if you can into the twitch reflexes needed to git gud in it. they shouldve made it like ninja gaiden tho and given you continues if they wanted to make it that hardshinobi 3 is still better as is shadow dancer imo, but no shit, its fucking shinobi
>>12539467It's a snes game....this is your own fault
>>12539503This. And sadly all too common.
>>12540852RoS and Shinobi 3 shit on this slop. I really can't stand zoomer retards that try to conflate two things just because they are mildly tangentially related, even when the design, mechanics, music and art are not even a fraction as good.
>>12540893>I really can't stand zoomer retards that try to conflate two things just because one was clearly inspired by the otherAre you slow?
>>12540852> they shouldve made it like ninja gaiden tho and given you continues if they wanted to make it that hardThe Japanese version has limited continues
>>12540893>not even a fraction as good.Based anon who has the objective way to measure such things and tell it how it is!
>>12540893>Shinobi 3casual alert
You can tell who had a snes and who had a Genesis as kids. Tendies will defend the snes as if their very life depends on it, then defend it by bring up children's games. Genesis owners had a better choice of games and when trying the snes out are left unimpressed.The snes had a great controller, it had some great jrpgs (a whole 4 of them) 1 good beat em up and street fighter 2 that carried the console till the exclusivity rights ended
>>12540937Based. The SNES was always bad.American millennials were brainwashed into liking it. Nobody else does.
>>12540937>children's gamesThis.Hagane is extremely childish.Play rela hardcore, mature games such as Sonic instead. Or better yet, forget about japanese games and start playing Eggyhead's Bong Adventures
>>12540943>Sonic instead. Or better yet, forget about japanese gamesSonic isn't even japanese.The first sonic game and Sonic CD are the only japanese games and they are both trash. Luckily for us, Mark Cerny created Sonic 2 and saved the franchise from japanese incompetence
>>12540949>and they are both trash because you can't hold right to win like the american sloppa game
>>12540951Go back to your kid games tendie
>>12540953I'm not a tendie i'm one of the most diehard Sega fans and I fucking despise how much the existence of sonic 2 has caused people to have such dumbshit views on Sonic CD. CD is a fantastic game, it's the americans and sonic 2 that have forever plagued honest discourse because "OH NO THE LEVELS REQUIRE ME TO USE MY BRAIN!!"
>>12540940Not even japan where it curb stomped all other competition?
>>12540963Anything not by Mark Cerny is trash and not real Sonic
>>12540930I have no death cleared Expert on Shinobi 3, and you poser shitter?
>>12540893>literally agrees with me>somehow still seething about itnu-/vr/ is so fucking tiresome
>>12541010You didn't mention RoS, and you acted like Shinobi just barely edges it out, when it's not even remotely close.
>>12540971That's all propaganda by nintendo, the snes was never good and never popular
>>12541001>I have cleared a casual gamelel
>hard game bad
>>12541035Post clears shitter
>>12540951Anon holding right is literally all mario games......All sonic games stages have 3 tiers. Top middle and bottom. If you just hold right you go to the bottom everytime and will die due to all the spikes, bottomless pits, crushing walls etcMario's games have a tutorial TELLING you to just hold right to win
I thought that by the 2020s the world would have forgotten about Nintendo.It angers me that I'm in my 40s and I still have to get mad upon seeing nintendo fans when I want ti discuss gaming online. This is not the future I wanted
>>12541058Of what game? Surely not Shinobi 3 which is casual as fuck
I will show Nintendo no mercy, I will SMASH them with all my might.
>>12541063Anything you shitter. If it's so easy surely you've no miss cleared Expert
>>12541027noi didnt do that, you just thought that, then argued against that in your head cuz youre a sperg. in fact i heavily implied read: "no shit, its fucking shinobi" that shinobi were the best 16bit ninja games period. cuz they are.youre just being autisticalsohagane is nowhere near as shit as youre acting like it is. its biggest problem is its cruelly unfun difficulty. but you compare it to the total snoozefest ninja/action games SNES has, like run saber? thats just a boring, sluggish strider ripoff. hagane at least has some character to it. rly interesting and agile/tight controls, multiple weapons, managing ammo, etc. you just gotta be stupid good at it or youll never see past the first few stages. its the SNESs equivalent of street fighter 2010 SF2010 is better tho. an obscure game no one cared about on release, thats actually kinda interesting, kinda shit, and extremely hard/unforgiving; which was then brought to everyones attention yrs later by jewtubers, and is now eternally damned to have spergs like you irrationally seethe about some blockbuster rental exclusive game that maybe a couple thousand ppl played back in the dayalso also>You didn't mention RoScuz i like shadow dancer better desu. if its gonna be a "slow" ninja game, i like the OHKO aspect a la the old arcade shinobi. RoS has the slow deliberate movement, but also a health bar, which makes it feel more sluggish than it actually is imo
>>12541068It's a casual fest
>>12541075>its biggest problem is its cruelly unfun difficulty.The game is pisseasy, mork no death cleared it from blind in two days and he fucking sucks at platformers and action games. Shinobi is way harder especially on Expert.This is a meme perpetuated by collector fags who fucking suck at games and played it for 10 minutes, and since no one played the piece of shit, no one could call them out
>>12541075RoS level design, boss design, mechanics, control, challenge, replayability, art, and music are miles better than the shitty arcade game
>>12541129Mork is a legendary shmup master. He is way more skilled than the average gamer
>>12541129The fact you have knowledge of what games an e-celeb has or has not played is just vile.
There's a type of person who expects every game to be a life-changing 10/10 for some reason and if any game fails to live up to that impossible standard then it's the worst thing ever. Black and white generation.
>>12541137DDP 1all took him 500 hours, he is even worse at non-shmups>>12541148Or just don't want the game to be a medicore as fuck 4/10?
>>12541129>mork no death cleared it from blind in two daysyou think i know or care about some literal who twitch faggot? kys my dude. gtfo here with that gay shit.point stands: your fav streamerfaggot shmupautist, who prolly grinds shmups on stream 12hrs/day to you and like 6 of your retarded frens, isnt a very good metric by which to judge anyone else who plays vidya.>Shinobi is way harder especially on Expert.oh i get it nowyou literally didnt play this game. you watched it on twitch and now youre having an autism about itgot it. loud and clear. im out. swallow a live grenade
>>12541167>he doesn't know who Mork isHoly newfag zoomerAnd no, I cleared RoS and Shinobi III deathless on original hardware (MiSTer FPGA)
>>12541156if you see everything you are willing to play as a 4/10 there is something wrong with you
>>12539467picrel is how i instantly know you got filtered and didn't play the game.
>>12539512Now how do you even begin to compare those games? The one that comes close to Hagane in my mind is Super Metroid.
>>12539512The reality is that 98% of the really good games were widely recognized and enjoyed as really good games shortly after their release. Most of the remainder would be "discovered" during the extended lifespan of the console, when stuff went on sale or were filling used game bins or got picked at Blockbuster because the hot titles were all taken, and the few stragglers got their due during the early boom of emulation in the late 90s/early 2000s. By the time you got to the 2010s "hidden gem" video phenomenon, they're either rehashing what had already been known for a while, or were taking above average games and presenting them as top-tier gems. That's not to say these games aren't worth playing, but to use the SNES as an example, the reality is that most still won't hold a candle to titles that magazine writers were awarding 8+/10s and that kids were gushing about on the playground back in 1991-1995.From a western perspective, the only real hidden gems that are left would be text-heavy, Japan-only releases, and those will only be discovered if/when they get a decent fan translation that some YouTuber decides to highlight.
>>12541296I dropped that trash after 10 minutes, that's why I used mark as a point of reference for difficulty
>>12541334i mean, you are in your right to drop something you didnt enjoy, but your a turbo sperg if you would drop a game and then say with full certainty it's a 4/10.
>>12541357*drop a game after 10 minutes
>>12541357>shit on your plate>how can you say it's nasty if you didn't eat the whole thing?
>>12541365>>>>>>>>>vidya gaem = food
>>12541365wouldn't exactly describe a literal shit as "a mediocre 4/10"
I like it, with all the different weapons and moveset there is a lot of replay value and experimentation to be had and room for getting good.The auto scrollers are kinda ass though, they feel like mandatory "lives sink" moments
>>12541394Hagane is kino.OP is just a desperate schizo and like 97% of this thread is him arguing with himself
Hagane has the sickest ending of any game known to man or wolf.
>>12539467You have Emu Ennui. Too much choice. We got a game every few months and stuck with it back in the day, found our own fun instead of looking up 'top 100 SNES hidden gems' and being told what to think about every tiny thing. Life was better before your homosexual extremely online gamer culture took over.
