>fall down a pit in game>press the emulator rewind key>now I can continue having fun playing my video game
>>12539540based gigachad
I had a whole discussion with a guy about this. His argument was that real mastery of a game comes from clearing the level entirely, not just passing a section once because games have random elements or changing. Getting through one sequence once doesn't mean you deserve to have passed it forever and never see its other variants.
>>12539543Okay but what does that have to do with HAVING FUN
>>12539569The fun is in getting good. If you just want to see the end of the game watch a lets play.
Nope.
found the op
Cheating is gigachad now? As expected of zoomers.
>using bookmarksyou didn't read the book
>>12539576>"n-no you HAVE to waste your l-life on this obscure 80s game!! y-you cheated!!"I got better things to do, grandpa.
>>12539581>n-no you HAVE to waste your l-life on this obscure 80s game!! y-you cheated!!
>>12539581Cool. Go do them then when you're done cheating your way through the game you clearly don't want to play.
>>12539576>Cheating is gigachad now?gigachad is essentially just "brown opinion". faggot frog tier
>>12539540gigachad sure is a retarded casual
>>12539624>ITS CHEATING!!i'm going to tell everyone I beat the game and they'll believe me, you can't do shit.
>>12539540a game you can't lose is boring. Might as well just watch somebody else play. Hell why even bother with that; just shitpost about random games using the vaguest but incendiary of statements
Is having fun all about winning?
>>12539571Who said anything about having to see the end to have fun?
>see credits I beat the game.
>>12539576
>>12539543It's a video game ffs. >oh you didn't beat Super Metroid because-Blow it out your ass. I reached the end credits, I turned the game off, and moved on with my life.
Lettuce be real, we're mostly around 35-40 years old. Save states are perfectly fine when you have limited time
>>12539687the people that seethe about save states always use that strawman because they have nothing else
>>12539989You still didn't beat the game.
>>12539973My favorite games are the ones that let you select credits from the menu, just get it over with nice and quick and check it off my list.
>>12540006You haven't moved on.
>>12540006I play video games for fun, so I don't ever consider myself having beaten the game regardless of whether I use save states or whatever.
>>12539540Imagine how GOOD his armpits smell...mmnnmm. gorgeous. Delicious.
>>12540000Quads of qruth.
Time is limited, I don;t have 50 years of replaying level 5-3 of mario bros to "beat" it. Ill save state and go through the jumps and see the end credits without zoomermaxxing and touching faggotube let's play.
>>12540006You beat the game, but you still haven't won.
>>12540058>Time is limitedTime is also money, when I get stuck in a game I just pay a jeet on fiverr to get past the part I'm stuck on. The time lost is time I could have spent making money, and those fiverr bills don't pay themselves.
>give myself infinite moneyI'm poor in real life. I don't need to be poor in my fantasy as well.
>>12540507I pay black men on craigslist to fuck my wife. Fucking your wife is a waste of time. Why waste time when you can be making money
>>12539678>t. Anon who never won anything
>>12539575WOW OP is HOTI would reassure her that she did beat the game
I don't care what you do.Let's say you're playing DKC2. You've got a save point with one free save. You have 4 lives and 3 levels and a boss ahead. The ability to live through that IS the challenge and you're only ruining the experience for yourself.But don't come to me saying "CRT original system is the only way to play games" when you can't even handle playing normal kids games without save states or life tricks.
>>12539540>check mate>ctrl z ctrl z ctrl z ctrl z>I don't think so ;)>let's try that again
Why is there a half naked man on my catalog
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>>12540769And give her your entire paycheck to make sure she read it?
>>12540798xD
>y-you didnt beat the g-gamedont care I had fun.
>>12540067deep
This "debate" has been around for decades and it will never stop because it's constantly reiterated by insecure nerds.The "authentic experience" and "convenience" exist on a gradient and you should just do whatever you find enjoyable. You can even use them in some contexts and not others, depending on what feels "right" to you. I like to use savestates because I'm often playing on a handheld on the bus, or when drifting off to sleep. I don't give a shit if that makes my 'achievements' illegitimate, I just want to get through those games without constantly replaying a section I didn't have time to get past.I'm the first person to defend difficulty as an artistic choice in game design and all that jazz, and so it's also fun to play games within their 'intended' limits and beat the highest modes.You can do both. No one knows or cares to judge you unless you go on the internet and complain one way or another.This is tangential, but I respect people playing games with savestates and/or Easy Mode much more than purely watching a letsplay then talking like they're deeply familiar with the game (or entire series). They are at least engaging with the gameplay on some level.
>>12539668This is what people since the 80s did anyway.
>>12540841You didn't have fun.
>>12541179good post
>>12539590 >get recommended a movie by a friend>watch the movie>skip the boring parts, just watch a great movie that my attention span can handle>talk to a friend about the movie, he talks about his favourite parts>"oh, i skipped those">"you... w.... what?">i explain that i skip the boring parts so that i can just watch a great movie>he looks away from me, looks back at me. think he's talking to himself and thinking through something>"uh... yeah... gimme a moment, I think I forgot something... I gotta be right back">he takes out his phone, and starts talking into it. no-one has called him.I haven't heard from him in three weeks. I hope he's alright - I wanna watch more of his favourite movies.
>>12540000Delet this, I still feel young.
>>12539540Only an issue if your dopamine receptors are fucked up from growing up watching tik tok and youtube shorts. Maybe not circumventing the struggle of problem solving would help with that.
>>12540000Most people on this board, just like on all of 4chan, are zoomers though.
>>12540041I always confuse Tom Hanks and Bill Murray, and imagined Tom Hanks blowing chunks and being disgusting like BM in Osmosis Jones thanks to your gross post
Imposter syndrome thread
>>12539543I can assure you devs would punish rewind players if they knew about the feature.like even if it was an accessibility option, its blatantly cheating to clear content.
>>12539540>>lgbtSeriously, go fuck yourself or something.
>>12541463>devs would punish rewind players if they knew about the feature.literally impossible. rewind is emulator level. the only way for a program to detect when it has been rewound is that it tracks state to verify it. but the problem is that if you rewind, then it rewinds the operation to create that state.
>>12541787As a developer you could include some real time clock battery on the cartridge or use the actual clock in later gen consoles where you could compare the real time clock to the time spent ingame and if that differed in a significant way you could block access to a later level or something. If you are rewinding in a level because you keep dying your time at the end would be shorter than the real time clock, for example. I dont know how emulators handle games that use real time clocks like animal crossing and pokemon but I assume there would be a way to hack the rom so you could cheat anyway so it wouldnt really solve anything.
>you didn't beat DoDonPachi SaiDaiOuJou unless you 1cc the whole thing. No it doesn't matter that the devs couldn't even do it themselves you didn't beat it.
>>12539575sexy but larping ass brown girl
>>12539576sasuga
>>12539579kek
>>12539973thank god for youtube yeh
>>12540000>I don't care about claiming cred with respect to what I can accomplish via extra-game exploitsfine to be casual>I want the cred that would come with completing this gamenot fine to be a exploit-abusing casualit all depends upon your goal"you didn't beat the game" applies to you in the former case but that shouldn't bother you, it should be accepted a priori
>>12540798>you didn't beat the hack>hope & seethe?
>>12541179Someone who has watched Expert/Legendary/Master difficulty gameplay knows more about the game on that mode than someone who only played Easy mode.
>>12541349It's very simple.People should experience the media as originally intended and defautly given first. That way, they have a universally applicable opinion to give upon the matter and also undateable credibility with respect to having adequately engaged enough with said media to be considered qualified to speak upon the matter.It is only upon *subsequent* experiences where skips and modifications become permissable as also valid experiences of additional dimensions of said media piece. Without that foundation, the alternate experiences cannot serve as valid frames of references from which to speak upon the media piece as a genericized whole, even when actually speaking to primarily only one if its many variations—such as, "skipping the boring parts".
>>12539973I cant myself bring to beat ALTTP, the end makes me cry.
>>12539973>say I beat the gameI beat the gameYou can't prove otherwise.
Braid isn't retro
>>12540000Checked and I've already beaten the games I play many years ago, I don't mind using save states.
>Rub the Knorr stock cube on your game controller. You could use salt, but you won't get a beautiful beef perfume on your hands. Gaming is a philosophy, genres a guideline. When I worked in Michelin kitchens I would never use an emulator with fast forward. But I've returned my three stars and now I'm a casual home gamer. I'll turn up the fast forward to 10x. 100x. Grind or don't grind, its your choice. Little olive oil...
>>12539581it clearly shows the mindset of your and the following gen. You don't want to git gud anymore, you want everything to be served on a platter, because you are mindfucked by tiktok and such to always crave instant gratification. you lack the patience and perseverance to even finish a fucking video game, a child's toy, legitimately anymore. I don't blame you personally, because you a victims of the gens before, the boomers who control the world, the shitty gen xers and millenials who are your parents and couldn't guide you and protect you properly. but I can blame your gen for not being rebellious and countercultural anymore. you never even tried, you just gave in to the slop and brainrot. not being able to play vidya properly is just a consequence of beforementioned but reason enough to ridicule your kind, despite everything.thank you for reading my blog post, if your attention span allowed you to come this far.
>>12539576western culture has been completely third worldized
>>12542423tl;dr
>>12542423>you lack the patience and perseverance to even finish a fucking video gameCrazy that millennials are now lecturing the youth on not being able to stay inside and play video games
>>12542512git gud
>>12541349how do you know those parts are boring if you didn't watch them?
>>12539540This is the opposite of why I'm replaying the DKC trilogy; I went through all of them with savestates more than 20 years ago but it was a chore and I have no memories of it. Now I'm having a blast by playing it slowly while having no fear of making a mistake because the games gives you truckloads of lives every other level.
>>12541463Saved
Real gigachads don't go back to cheat... On the contrary, they go back when there was cheating.
>>12542514They dont even have any hobbies though, literally try talking to one and they have the most basic normie "interests" (aka consumerism) and mention sleeping as one of their hobbies
>>12539573>ecelebs bad>except when they agree with my autistic opinions
>>12539540>emulate arcade>INFINITE CREDITS
>>12540712This is why you are poor in real life: because you're always looking for infinite money cheats instead of putting in the work.
>>12539543This sort of autism is only possible if you’re a kid or a NEET, though. You need ample time for retro games to fuck up, learn and actually progress. Earlier this year I was NEETing so I could indulge myself without using save states. But suck my dick if I have to get off of work, have about half an hour of free time to play and spend 25 minutes of it retrying because I didn’t see the invisible spike #9 that insta kills you and had to do it like 20 times. And Other times I’m raging so much because of some bullshit that I just rewind.
>>12540785Kek
>>12543465>literally can't retro games without save states and rewindWell well well /vr/ finally realizing retro games do kinda suck
>>12539579The savewunners can’t refute this
>>12543476Not what I said, faggot. I love retro games but for a lot of them you need time, whether if it’s because you wanna clear them quickly (therefore you sit down if you have extra time to sink and play away) or casually play it like when I just play a bit here and there so it takes longer. Like I said, if I’m NEETing I’ll play it old school.
>>12541349That would be fast forward, not using save states would be restarting the whole movie if you had to go to the bathroom because no one would pause it for you on the cinema
>>12539579>>>/lit/
>play normal>save scum every minute
>>12543489Retro games are good if you don't have a life
>>12543606this but unironically
>>12539540Dude I didn’t realize how hard classic Mega Man was until I got the collection. Kid me beat all 1-6. Adult me can’t do shit without rewind! There’s so many rage inducing moments like random enemy spawn when you jump over a pit, ice physics, block sections, multiple mini boss fights, boss patterns, etc… it’s pretty rough.
>>12539540>Boot up game>play to have fun>savestate anytime>reload>having fun>smile >repeat
>>12543490What is savestating skipping? Replaying the level from the last checkpoint from if you would have necessarily had to replay if you died. That replay is also part of the experience of actually playing the game. It is in essence fast forward, not rewind.
>>12543672Normalfags need to fuck off and get a more reasonable hobby for their jew-regimented lives.
>>12543465Why were you playing it then? What's the point of "beating" a game like this? Is it some checklist autism?
>>12544162He's a retarded failed normalfag. He's caught inbetween his normalfag programming and just enjoying his own fucking life.
>>12539575I want her to look with utter frustration at my swc like that
>>12539540>easy to cheat at good games with save states>cheating at RPGs requires learning how to hex edit just to change a number and skip the all the boring gaynessWhy did god make it like this?
>>12544306>it's hard to cheat at a game where the fun comes from /playing a role/, hence the term "role-playing game">oh my stars and garters i don't understand my tiny little brain is huuurts
>>12541457>retard-kun, all optionsThanks for playing
>>12544306Uhhhh.... savestates?
>>12543465The problem is when people who do thst act like they beat the game and are able to form an opinion on it.The annoying or rage inducing elements of a game are as much a part of it as the good and fun elemens. If you're skipping the former, when you go around saying you like the game, you're misleading people, because you don't actually know what the game is like, you don't know what the whole experience feels like because you didn't experience it.By all means, do whatever you want to have fun, I don't care. But when you go interact with others, at least be honest and say "I beat the game using save states to avoid repetition" before sharing your opinion. At least that way other people will be able to gauge whether your opinion is relevant to them or not.
