>>12543778
There are a significant number of people who never buy anything used. The idea of a used AES is just not on the table for them.

>>12543778
Wait for full reviews and then we'll see if it's worth it.

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A $400 AES is going to look and smell like it was pulled from the dumpster.

OPs post is full of weird typos, strange arguments, falsehoods and assumptions. Who is he trying to convince? Who is this thread even for?

>>12543778
>Noooo you have to buy a thirty year old second hand piece of crap from a scalper!

>>12543778
Jutego participated in a conference about hardware and to talked about the AES+.

The console has been reduced to two ASIC chips and the HDMI output has scanlines capability.
The carts use high quality flash memory, hence the price.
The chip manufacturer is German and they've been given enough money to run a second batch of asic production run if needed in case the fist batch had issues.
Special attentions were given to the DAC to preserve image and sound original signature.

Expect a Megadrive soon.

>>12543778
Explain to me how exactly you plan to get an AES (which sells for like $500), and a NeoSD (which is $700 and out of stock)? The AES alone costs more than the AES+

>>12544317
>Expect a Megadrive soon.
It's the Neo Geo Pocket.

>>12544324
"He speculates that while Nintendo might not follow this route, other companies or Playon could potentially replicate the success with systems like the Sega Mega Drive in the future (12:52)."

>>12543778
>Who is this even for?
Who is the Neo Geo even for full stop?

Do fa/g/gots really just play fighting games single player all day repeating the same 2 moves to cheese out the CPU? Wow what a gaming experience.

>>12544323
You can find them for decent prices (~$300) on JP auction sites often.

Is there any confirmation about whether or not the AES+ will support UniBios?

>>12544339
Do they come with controllers? Because as far as I know, controllers are another $150 and memory cards are another $50 (not actually sure if the memory card is necessary for the NeoSD)

>>12544340
Most likely won't. Looks like it will have its own embedded bios that will be switchable (?)

>>12544341
Some do, depends on the listing. I have 6 controllers and never paid over $80 for any one of them.

>>12544340
"On-screen BIOS and DIP Switches located on the bottom of the console"
That's all we have officially on the subject.

>>12544330
Honestly has a good library of games but a ton of them are too hard to enjoy

>>12544353
Walk me through what a typical day of playing Neo Geo looks like. Assuming people actually play this thing.

>>12544356
Short sessions per game as it mirrors arcade gaming habits/difficulty/skill/quarter-muncher... as with most arcade games, best to play with others but there's also single player games that are worth playing, like pulstar and neo drift out.

Neo Geo CD controller is what most people go for as it's comfortable in large hands but honestly the bean style controller is a better experience in my opinion. It's loud and very tactile and adds to the experience.

It's not a console that has long engaging games but it pairs well with casual gamers who want to sit down and play for an hour or two then get on to other things.

>>12544356
I rarely play for more than 20 minutes at a time. I’ll pick up a game, toss like 5 or 10 credits in (I usually play on MVS mode) and then play until I run out. Lots of autists get all obsessed about 1CC’ing games, I never spent enough time in arcades to get anywhere near that good and frankly think I’d find it to be too fatiguing to even try and get that good, so I just play simply for fun and try to get a bit further than I did before. Then I’ll usually turn it off and go do something else.

I often keep coming back to the same game at a time, instead of cycling through them, but depending on my mood.

>>12544310
For the past year there's been one extreme faggot who does nothing but spam AI-generated OPs on this board, always filled with the exact same issues you pointed out. Why does he use AI to make the OP? No one fucking knows. It's not frequent or targeted enough to be some third world engagement farmer making pennies with each thread. My guess is he's actively training the AI until it can simulate online discussions down to a T before unleashing it in full; that's going to be a real problem if it turns out to be true.

>>12544370
>Short sessions
>causal gamers
>>12544386
>20 minutes at a time

That makes sense. The aura around Neo Geo is that it is a hardcore console, but in reality is very casual. Maybe the most casual. Like Wii but for boomers.

>>12544527
Hardcore cult following. It's allure is mostly on how well the games were made through it's lifetime like the music, art direction, attention to detail, etc.

There's also the speculative collectors market. Don't think those are people who are actually playing the games but have just continued to hype its legacy.

It'll be interesting to see if more indie devs or even SNK breathes more life into it by releasing new games that are maybe less arcade focused as the hype around the preorders continues.

>>12543778
Bro you could have gotten a 1 slot MVS for about 40-80usd a couple of years ago depending on revision.

>>12544527
What the other anon said, it’s hardcore for how intense the fanbase is, and legitimately the reason why the games have such staying power for me is because of how well made they are. The graphics are nice, colourful, and detailed— the gameplay is simple but challenging— and with very few exceptions, the games are great as 1P and 2P. The quality is very consistent across the library.

Ok, i'll bite

>>12543778
>Why would anyone buy the AES+?
Because its white!
>With a real AES + NeoSD you get:
>- Actual original hardware
Yup.
>- The entire library on one cart, plus homebrew, plus the ability to buy new games from indie devs (some even released in .neo format)
I wont pay the onion fuckers one single $. Fuck those guys.
>- Proven compatibility
aes+ might have perfect compatibility since furrtek dude is involved?
>- Something that actually holds value
Value is entirely imaginary
>AES+ gives you:
>- Some kind of emulation even if they’re using ASICs, depending on what they actually built
Lets wait and see how good their new hardware will be. Sounds like it will be low lag and sounding like the real (yamaha) thing.
>- Probably a locked or limited game setup, with no confirmation that NeoSD or any flash cart will even work
They cant get away with encrypted games here. Since its supposed to play old carts as well.
>- “Authenticity” only in the sense that it’s officially licensed
Imgainary.
>- Who knows how long it’ll even be supported
From the crazy slaes i bet this will be supported for a long time. They might wanna re-release all of the SNK published titles. And then some new games.

But seriously. Cut the hysteria and just lean back and see how this one turns out.

>>12543778
Why buy this one I can buy an evercade instead.
I'm kidding (but I'm actually kind of tempted not going to lie) but with so many ways to play neo geo game I'm not sure I'm willing to spend that amount of money just to play twinkle star sprites

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>>12544324
>>12544317
I'd love one for homebrew purposes

>>12545069
They're reproducing the hardware, not inventing a new product.

>>12544393
I take back the thing I said about typos though. It was me reading the AES + NeoSD as if he had said AES +. The rest of my post I stand behind though. Overall this thread just seems like a waste of space, more than usual.

>>12544330
People with friends. Families. And the people you specify. I fall into all three categories.

>>12543778
I have an Neo SD pro, I'll still get some of the carts just to own something that used to be so expensive. Think about it like this, its like having 130 arcade motherboards in one package, pretty cheap if you think of it that way. They are $90, its fuck all. These aren't the type of thing you will get for half price a year later.

>>12544284
They used to be much cheaper from Japan, the MVS motherboards are still pretty cheap still. I had an MVS setup but got absolutely sick of all the wires and crap. IGS PGM is cheap but I guess people have to wait until Elon Musk tweets about it first.

>>12544356
There is no way you could ever get sick of playing the same Snes or Genesis games every day. I usually play the early games first and fantasize about the situation the Japanese guy who brought it in 1991 was in, maybe he picked it up in his Skyline.

>>12544323
Backbit exists. Just the check the website each week if you want any of these, its how I got this and the Rhea adaptor for Saturn.

I own an AES and 2 MVSes and I love them but they are ungodly abominations when it comes to build quality and reliability. They're the only pieces of hardware I've had to take a soldering iron to for repairs and fixes. Horrible video quality across all revisions stock, especially RGB. Everything is highly susceptible to noise. The cartridge slot is garbage. I have owned my AES for 15 years and I've never put in a cartridge and had it work the first time. You spend 10 minutes inserting/removing/wiggling/praying just to get a game to work.The power supply situation is horrible, all of the OEM power supplies are either dead or ticking time bombs and finding a replacement is a nightmare. Depending upon your revision/region you have to pick 1 of the 3 correct power supply designations and it's not obvious which one you need without opening the system up and turning it into an einstein project. Then of course comes the situation of how to plug it into a modern TV. If you're an autist like me, then obviously these things don't matter. But to a casual person, who is going to put up with this shit to play Metal Slug? That's who this is for.

>>12545176
>Bad build quality MVS
????

>why don't people just buy [unofficial alternative]

People want real carts at affordable prices, if you can't understand the appeal for that then the AES+ isn't for you

>>12545179
Don't you ever wonder how China managed to get their hands on thousands of MVS boards and resell em for cheap?

>>12544676
You can still get a consolized MVS on AE for ~$300 with rgb and hdmi output, unibios

>>12544356
not him but I've spent a few hours long sessions playing some vertically scrolling and side scrolling beat and shoot em ups in 2P mode that were pretty good, and also very fucking intense, by which I mean very hard (coming from someone whose main experience of both genres was the sega mega drive). I agree that the vs. fighting games like fatal fury, etc are incredibly short lived entertainment and as single player experiences barely worth the boot time. and can be cheesed through with one move, low kick.

>>12545069
i wanna see more of this - old consoles, but made into better products with the power of hindsight

>>12545686
An XBAND type solution would be ideal

>>12545686
This might be hypocritical coming from a guy who plays so many shmups but I don’t understand how anyone can really play more than one or two fighting games, even if you’re playing 2P. They’ve got the same mechanics, the only novel part is how your opponent reacts, so why do you even need more than one game to get that experience?

>>12546060
Some are defensive, some are offensive

>>12543778
you are not finding a Neo Geo AES console that works for $250

>>12546064
Can you elaborate? I’m ignorant here

>>12546060
>They’ve got the same mechanics,
Not at all. Really they shouldn't even be considered the same broad genre. Games like SF2 and MVC2 have very little in common.

>>12545069
It sounds like a cool idea but I bet the CD drive would break like all the time.

>>12546098
Yes you are, check JP auction sites, stop being lazy

>>12546118
most kof games are offensive while most samsho games are defensive. the mechanics influence how you play the game more than anything else. some are quick pace some are slow.

>>12546202
Here is the price every AES system on yahoo japan auctions has sold for since the start of 2026
>$740
>$380
>$320
>$380
>$220
>$1596
>$258
>$919
>$526
>$1334

You're technically not wrong but 1 selling for under $250 in the last 5 months is grim

>>12546186
a modern cd drive won't

>>12545125
They are inventing a new product, actually.

But even still, this is just including the cd add on without the needless extra steps of making it an add on

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>>12546261
Adding to that, the one that sold for $220 was just the console. No cables. No controller. They didn't even check if it worked or not, sold as is.

>>12546261
point stands even if you look at the mean

>>12546202
that's a lot of work just to end up paying like $200 in shipping and tariffs alone

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The absolute rock bottom way to get a real original hardware Neo Geo is to look in your area for Neo Geo arcade cabinets. They will most likely have a two or four slot board in them. I've seen them sell for less than $100.
Then you can just keep the cabinet and play that, or you can hook board up to a cheap chinese supergun and a cheap controller for said supergun.
Next cheapest thing is buying an MVS off aliexpress.

Then for games get one of the cheap 161-in-1 MVS boards.

>>12545236
>Don't you ever wonder how China managed to get their hands on thousands of MVS boards
Hong Kong probably.

>>12545179
It's still 30 year old hardware which was on 24/7 for probably a decade. Problems also tend to cascade with these electronics.

>>12543778
Anyone who would buy a real vintage AES with the much cheaper and more reliable AES+ on the horizon is even more autistic than NeoGeo fans.

NEO-GEO games are just mediocre. If you want to play fighting games and beat em ups, play capcom. If you like shmups, play cave. etc.

>>12547042
Why do you treat video games like a life and death topic?.
>achully there's better games on other platforms
No one cares.

The problem here is the carts. I'm already out like $80 just buying the game. Then I have to shell out another few hundred bucks (plus shipping) to send the cart off to NGF to have the insert shredded, an actual official NGF insert printed, and NGF holo stickers for the case, cart, and manual. Then I have to pay for return shipping. All this bullshit just to have an officially licensed game.

>>12547071
Jotego said that Plaion wasn't making much profit on the carts because of high quality components. Where would you have liked them to cut costs?

>>12546764
The later revisions have most issues grinded out. And unlike CPS2 and Taito F3, SNK actually implemented decent self diagnostics test.

>>12547080
He’s referring to 25 year old drama on the Neo geo forums. NGF offered a “service” where they would replace your original insert with a “corrected” (reprint) insert and shred the original.

I have multiple AES consoles and I’m tired of dealing with 30 year old hardware issues. As mentioned, the cartridge slots get shitty, caps die, and the lower serial consoles are built from brittle plastic that’s prone to cracking. Hoping the AES+ is a good replacement.

>>12547269
>caps die
How can you be into retro gaming and not at the very least do basic soldering...

MVS is better

>>12547578
It's literally the same thing with different dipswitches

>>12547590
With MVS all factors are related to the arcade cabinet or supergun.
AES is a lottery some units have reversed stereo channels, dog shit rgb output etc

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>>12547276
I don't understand how you read
>I’m tired of dealing with 30 year old hardware issues.
and come out thinking they don't know how to solder, i used to repair handhuld consoles in the 2000's and I never want to do it again, but I still can.

Electronics repair is gay and annoying especially when dealing with the chinese, they are like dutchmen who speak even less english, sending the wrong shit then trying to blame you for their fuck up. I had this happen more than a dozen times and is a big part of why I quit doing it.

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I don't like most Neo Geo box art so i newer my own, for use in emulation station

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>>12547909
I also rename the games in my collection to make them more coherent with the naming convention of later games

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>>12547910

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King of Fighters switched to normal numbering with 11. I decided to retroactively rename them.

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>>12547919

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>>12547926

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I specifically use the anniversary romhack for this one

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>>12547931

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>>12547935
Another one where i user the special edition rom instead of normal

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This is for a romhack

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>>12547958
Another romhack

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>>12547910
>>12547912
Bonus ps1 game

>ai slop over based shinki(no)ro and company
go and stay go

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>>12547963
>>12547964
Another ps1 version i prefer

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>>12547971
you'd prefer this, tranny?

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>>12547973
atomiswave

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>>12547976
I prefer the correct choice, one that you didn't make

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>>12547910
>>12547912
>>12547968
Atomiswave

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>>12547985
Not a fan. can't tell what entry it is because i don't read Japanese, doesn't show the characters in a character driven game. It's meh.

>>12547991
anon either you're photoshopping logos onto AI slop or you letting the AI do it for you, you don't get to use the excuse of "i can't read the logo because it's in japanese", and your inability to recognize terry in that picture puts your appreciation of neo geo games into question

>>12547042
CAVE STG and Neo Geo STG (mostly hori IREM stuff) play completely differently. These just aren't comparable.

>>12548003
It's a greyscale shot of eyes. I'm not a big fan. I think game covers should boldly showcase what the game is about, and fighting games are 100% about characters

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>If you like shmups, play cave

>>12548048
I think that cover boldly explains that there'll be some kind of important battle involving the three characters shown in the picture, and if I play the game I can see that those three characters are indeed the game's playable cast so I think that covers "what the game is about", meanwhile your slop is just generic character collages using a generic anime style. I'll take the original any day

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>>12548098
It's 90s OVA style, the peak of anime. Fatal Fury had an anime btw.

>>12547919
Better version.

>>12547919
Then you've got the numbering wrong, because KOF 95 is the fifth KOF tournament.

Art of Fighting 2
Fatal Fury 1
Fatal Fury 2
KOF 94
KOF 95

>>12547976
I'm 90% sure that cover is a traceover of a frame from the movie Roadhouse.

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>>12548153
No 90s OVA poster used ai slop rendering
heres what actual peak 90s OVA looks like

>>12548160
That's not how it works. They officially switched to numbering with KoF 11, which would have been 2004. They have an official "mainline release" and then they have ones deemed spin offs.
2005 = Named 11
2004 = Neowave (officially deemed a spin off)
2003 = 10th official mainline entry
2002 = 9
2001 = 8
2000 = 7
1999 = 6
1998 = 5
1997 = 4
1996 = 3
1995 = 2
1994 = 1

The in universe tournament number doesn't line up, several of these entries are "dream match" games that have no story.

Furthermore, fatal fury is in a different universe than kof.

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>>12548176
That genuinely looks worse.
>>12547949
Better pic. Character on model.

>>12544856
furrtek being involved was an immediate buy from me. Met him and a couple other people involved at a demoscene event. They know what they're doing.

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>>12548196
The "King of Fighters" tournament even within the limited scope of "KOF universe" includes the previous Fatal Fury tournaments, which within the story were called "The King of Fighters". The first game of the series, KOF 94, explicitly references that "this year's tournament will be a team format", meaning it is not the first tournament in the series.

There's no getting around this. KOF 94 is not the first KOF tournament.

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>>12548176
I don't like terry's face in the it original. Had it redraw it. Also added Geese.

>>12548225
But it is the first KoF game. Derp. The title is just the title of the fucking game.

In-universe, the King of Fighters tournament is not numbered sequentially like “11th tournament,” “12th tournament,” etc. Instead, it’s just a recurring event that gets held whenever a new host organizes it. This is not DBZ.

In KOF ’94–2003, tournaments are Just referred to by year (KOF ’96 tournament).
Several of them are noncanon dreammatch games.

After The King of Fighters XI, the series stops using years, but canon does NOT replace that with a numbered tournament system.

>The King of Fighters XI
Just “a new King of Fighters tournament” following 2003’s events (no number given).
>The King of Fighters XII
a non-canon “dream match”
>The King of Fighters XIII
Again, simply another tournament hosted by a new organizer, no number stated.
>The King of Fighters XIV
A new tournament hosted by Antonov; still not numbered in-universe.

And again, fatal fury is in a different Timeline. That's why geese was alive in kof while dead in FF.

>>12548274
You're an idiot.

>>12548274
>And again, fatal fury is in a different Timeline. That's why geese was alive in kof while dead in FF.
what in the literal fuck am i reading?

>>12548332
>>12548275
You're reading facts you retarded nigger.


SNK Wiki (direct from series pages):
"The events of the Art of Fighting series, as well as the remaining installments of the Fatal Fury story, are non-canon to the King of Fighters storyline. This was done so that the characters... could be featured... without having to age them."
"It should be noted that The King of Fighters series is not set in the same continuity as the Fatal Fury series."
https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Fatal_Fury_(series)

>>12548332
Geese is alive in the king of Fighters series.

He's dead in the fatal fury series. He has a permanent death in fatal fury real bout. Dumb faggot.

>>12544317
if they indeed can rerelease the Sega CD and the 32X too, then it will be worthy.

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>>12548381
fuck you for using AI, and it if it werent because that is not a pic of the Tower of Power for the genesis mini, i would be even more pissed off!

seriously, was it because of COVID because they decided not to release the tower sets for the mini? are there at least decent 3d print files to use?

>>12548376
I think the most likely thing to get a release that follows the pattern of the AES+ (FPGA core turned into ASIC + off-the-shelf original cpu and audio chips still being made) is an official Sega Neptune that combines the Megadrive + CD + 32X into one unit. That's the only thing that can actually get lapsed Sega fans attention after so many shitty SOAC and emulation releases. It has to be the real thing and it has to be all-in-one.

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>>12548393
But it needs to look like this, not that gay neptune design. It should just be called the Sega Mega Genesis 32X CD

99% of people don't know what the neptune is

>>12548406
I would go with a lid-based design over a disc tray for reliability reasons. So it would be Saturn-esque with a cartridge slot behind the lid.
Or they could be side by side.

>>12544328
>Sega Mega Drive in the future
This is obviously too good to be true and will never happen.

>>12548217
>furrtek
He is a nice guy.