ps1 rpgs are truly special. a sweet spot of pure creativity and just the right amount of technical limitations. there is no other genre or era of time that replicate the magic. The amount of games you can point to and say its an absolute classic of the genre and deserves to be among the best on the console, is staggering. gen 4 rpgs are good but too simple and generic in comparison. gen 3 has some great ones like DQ3, but theyre too grindy and archaic. gen 6, idk wtf happened but it lost the sovl for the most part. Anyway, discuss your favorite ps1 jrpgs, and tell me which one I should play next. I consider all of these at least an 8/10 but most are 9 or 10. For whatever reason I can not get into xenogears, the gameplay is too boring and it puts me to sleep. >FFVII>FFVIII>FFIX>FF Tactics>Star Ocean 2>Tales of Eternia>Parasite Eve>Vagrant Story>Chrono Cross>Dragon Quest VII>Suikoden>Suikoden 2>Legend of Dragoon>Threads of Fate>Valkyrie Profileif I have to pick an absolute favorite, it'd be either FFVII or VIII for the artwork/atmosphere/story etc or Star Ocean 2 for the gameplay.
>>12544130>boohoo too actually retro games are grindsCommon chat GPT L
>>12544148>I'm such a hardcore retro gamer bro, rpgs were so much better on the NES when you had to walk around in a circle for an hour before the first dungeoncommon NPC L
Unique, you'll love it or hate it: Azure Dreams, BaroqueHigh probability that you'll like it: Breath Fire 4, Koudelka, Lunar 1&2 [UnWorked patch], No idea, haven't played: Linda cubed, Laika, PoPoLoCrois, Rhapsody, Saga Frontier 2, SMT 1&2, Thousand Arms, Wild Arms 1Tactics: Brigandine Grand, Front Mission 3, Galaxy Yuna, Kartia, Langrisser, Saiyuki, Master Monsters, Tear Ring Saga, Vandal Hearts, Vanguard BanditsDon't play: Wild Arms 2. It needs retranslated, the translation is so bad the npcs tell you the wrong shit.Play a romhack or use cheats: Breath of fire 3, the random encounter rate is really annoying.
snes+ps1 are definitely the goat rpg consoles. though even not counting ports like chrono trigger, the ps1 probably edges ahead.
Where are my indie shit ps1 rpg low poly games?
>>12544174>rpgs were so much better on the NES when you had to walk around in a circle for an hour before the first dungeonThis but unironically
>"RPG" on console>don't make your own character>don't get to customize them as they level up, just pointless numbers go up>magic spells are "Fire1", "Fire2" etc, anything different than that, if it exists, doesn't work 90% of the time>no logic to world building, get attacked by a gherkin with a spear for no reason>can't even choose dialogue options most of the timeTrash for pedophiles and Japanese
>>12544130>gen 3 has some great ones like DQ3, but theyre too grindy and archaicwhat awful fucking taste you have. dq3's insane personality quiz gimmick nonsense was actually ahead of its time, and predicted the descent of the genre into gimmicky nonmsense like>FFVIII>Chrono Cross>Dragon Quest VII>Suikodenno idea why parasite fucking eve is on that list btw>>12544174that's the game, you idiot. knowing when to buy weapons or armour, when to go back to the inn, when to leave the dungeon, when to use MP on healing/ spells, that's the entire core of the genre. of course you want o play nonsense where you just walk through a corridor and fight a boss who occasionally switches to a counterattacking mode>>12544498>muh identify boots>muh penetrate level 4 magic defences>muh walking around until you find a place in a dungeon you can have a nap in the slop available on home computers during the 80s is what made dq such a phenomenon
>>12544498>western "RPG">dungeons and dragons ripoff fantasy worlds ONLY, nothing else is allowed>creativity not allowed>good artstyles not allowed>catchy soundtrack not allowed>character development not allowed>personalities not allowed>any story beyond slay le epic dragon/big bad guy not allowed>gameplay that isnt a repetitive mindless chore not allowedtrash for literal, actual retards
>>12544506>the game IS grinding and resource managementsounds like a shitty fucking game. Games like FFVII, Chrono Trigger and Earthbound are not beloved for their gameplay but the world they create. Nothing wrong with enjoying a number go up simulator but that's clearly not the main appeal of the genre.
>>12544514chrono trigger has a ton of grinding in it, unless you're buying no gear and making the game unfun. vii is NOT beloved anymore and earthbound is a meme game for tumblrkids. the ps1 only has two good rpgs- ffix and breath of fire iv. the sfc has chrono trigger, dq5 and ffiv and ffv. the fc remains the best console for jrpgs, PERIOD.>Nothing wrong with enjoying a number go up simulator but that's clearly not the main appeal of the genre.it's the main appeal of the genre to people who like playing these games and not watching them on youtube, or watching summaries of them on youtube
>>12544498Maybe play something other than Final Faggotry
>>12544520>ffix and bof IVno point engaging with someone who has taste this bad.
this one was a lot of fun
>>12544592>shitting on ff ix it's one of the few psx rpgs not stuffed with pointless bullshit
>>12544130>Wild Armssovl
>>12544609>pointless bullshityou mean everything after disc 1?
>>12544506>dq3's insane personality quiz gimmick nonsense was actually ahead of its timeIt wasn't in the original game and Ultima IV did such a quiz before it anyway.
>>12544628that's just fun content and soulful worldbuilding>>12544640god that makes so much sense, thanks yuji horii>Ultima IV did such a quiz before it anyway.is that the one where you're jesus
>>12544640SMT If also did it 2 years before the SNES version of DQ3
>>12544130>i are truly special
J-RPG only became great with the PS1SNES J-RPG are extremely overated,almost all the SNES J-RPG franchise have better follow up on PS1FF7-8-9>FF 4-5-6Star ocean 2>star ocean 1Breath of fire 3,4>Breath of fire 1,2Tales of eternia>Tales of phantasiaChrono cross>Chrono triggerDragon quest 7>Dragon quest 6...
>>12544498you play the equivalent of choose your own adventure books lol
>>12544697Chrono Cross is probably the worst example of Squareshit ever made. 100% a cure for insomnia.
>>12544130>Anyway, discuss your favorite ps1 jrpgs, and tell me which one I should play next.You should try Grandia and if you count Zelda as a RPG then try Alundra the best 2D Zelda ever madeGive another chance to Xenogears it's amazing i think your way too harsh with the combat,if you really want to know what boring combat are try FF12
>>12544697the snes DQs utterly mog 7, espeeeccially if we're including the 3 remake in that equation. and cross is not better than trigger but I think its really close. besides that though youre right and I agree with the sentiment. There's also just so much more experimentation with ps1 rpgs, shit like parasite eve and vagrant story wasnt possible with 16 bit. Also having stuff like prerendered backgrounds and fmvs to really make the settings come to life matters a lot for a genre like jrpg where its all about the vibes and adventure. Imagine trying to make ffvii on the snes, it still wouldve been great but not nearly the same immersive and memorable experience.
>>12544714ugh I guess will give xenogears a third chance and force myself to slog through the beginning again. I really do just hate both forms of the combat and excessive encounters, plus the few dungeons I did experience were not fucking great to say the least. I do want to see where this allegedly great story goes.
>>12544705Well agree to disagreeI found the theme and story fascinating,love the art direction,i love collecting compagnon like in suikoden,like the element and grind system,the level up system and of course the OST is problably the best of any RPG Chrono trigger on the hand i found it pretty souless and generic,it's a good game but i don't love it
>>12544715>the snes DQs utterly mog 7,Absolutely disagree The scope of DQ7 has never been matched by another Dragon quest It introduce the chat party which really help develop your companions (they were pretty much non existent personality wise before 7)DQ7 also have the best combat system of any dragon quest (DQ8 was a clear downgrade)Don't get the western hate for this game,japanese love DQ7 it's one of their favorite
daily reminder FFVII is still the greatest videogame ever made, in any genre.>b-b-butyou lost, tranny.
>>12544739Ill take a tight 30-40 adventure with good pacing over the most padded and bloated jrpg ever made, personally. The treasure hunt was fun for the first 50 hours or so but shit gets fucking old when there's practically zero real plot development happening for entire game's worth of time. The battle system is fun though, you're right about that.
>>12544697Possibly the most embarrassing parrotpost ITT
>>12544514>>12544506JRPG is a variety genre, that's why people like them. They're part narrative story game, part adventure/exploration, part strategy. It's a jack of all trades master of none genre and that's why people like them.99% of people don't like the autismo grinding subset of them, and no, those autismo games do not represent the genre at its core. Autismo grinding games truly are a genre unworthy of respect, and their players less so. Autismo grinding games don't take strategy, they just waste your time. They're the ultimate goyslop for autistic losers who've never had a fucking job. In the modern age autismo grinding rpgs have been replaced with cellphone garbage (you're the same type of person, and you're on the same level)
>>12544720pay the perfect works patch
>>12544936>JRPG is a variety genre, that's why people like them. They're part narrative story game, part adventure/exploration, part strategy. It's a jack of all trades master of none genre and that's why people like them.exactly what a casual who only plays SNESlop would say>99% of people don't like the autismo grinding subset of them, and no, those autismo games do not represent the genre at its core. Autismo grinding games truly are a genre unworthy of respect, and their players less so. Autismo grinding games don't take strategy, they just waste your time. They're the ultimate goyslop for autistic losers who've never had a fucking job. In the modern age autismo grinding rpgs have been replaced with cellphone garbage (you're the same type of person, and you're on the same level)completely fucking wrong. lmao of you to say that people hate the original dragon quest or that spending an hour playing a game is autistic grinding. if you haven't played the original final fantasy, which is the level of grinding that most games in the genre are at, the what the fuck are you doing on this board
>>12544720>>12544943playing perfect works with encounters disabled will just let you know how horribly paced that turd is
>>12544130Have you never played Wild Arms, Anon? It's probably my second favourite after FFVII.
...and then yakuza was made and mogged all that shit and peaked JRPG.punching niggas in streets > 4 niggas in a row casting spells
>>12544986You haven't played itXenogears is one of the most well paced J-RPG ever made
>>12545000no that's one I havent tried yet. I'll move it towards the top of my list.
>>12545015the beginning of the game sure as fuck is not paced well. That desert pit with bart was an unbelievable slog.
>>12544237>Don't play: Wild Arms 2. It needs retranslated, the translation is so bad the npcs tell you the wrong shit.Dank meme + skill issue.
>>12545015your definition of good pacing is 100% cutscenes, cutscenes, and more cutscenes
>>12545017You're in for a treat.
>>12544936>Autismo grinding games truly are a genre unworthy of respectWhat's the difference between grinding one game for 100 hours and playing 4 games for 25 hours other than the extra money in your wallet?
>>12544715cope, 7 is the best DQ game ever made>>12544705both Chrono slop games were equally shit
>>12544130>a sweet spot of pure creativity and just the right amount of technical limitations.i agree and i completely dropped this genre with the ps2 era of voice acting and more realistic graphics. it turned everything gay.
>>12544520The only "grinding" I recall from Chrono Trigger was getting the petals and fangs for prehistoric trading.>>12544509>he doesn't even know what can change the nature of a man
>>12545091cant even imagine how much of a soulless retard you'd have to be to hate BOTH chrono games. Makes perfect sense you love one of the worst jrpgs of the entire era.
>>12545103the only reason people cared for Chrono Tranny is because the Dragon Balls artist worked on itthe sequel is far less popular because he wasn't involved but the turth is both games were equally sloppy
>>12544498>don't make your own characterThis is one of their single biggest advantages. They an actually tell stories based around actual, well defined characters with plot and dialogue that is written for their particular personalities and characteristic and don't need to stoop to treating their MCs like generic nobodies or party members like interchangeable bodies.>JRPG is a variety genre, that's why people like them.Zelda does 'variety genre' better though, as it properly integrates every form of gameplay/interaction into a cohesive whole instead of having a bunch of random modes like transitioning into a primitive minigame that has nothing to do with the rest of the gameplay at all.
>>12544389You're screeching about indie games in multiple threads like an autistic fucking loser crusading against fun. Gay.
>>12544969I have played them.They fucking suck.
>>12545118do you really think pretending to be a retard so lazily is good for your brain? i think you should learn to love yourself.
>>12545416You may be surprised to find that I don't go into threads about stuff I'm not into saying "the genre, franchise, or game you like sucks."Have a pleasant day.
>>125450814 games: Visited more locations, experienced 4 unique stories, fought unique enemies, met more characters, experienced more noveltygrinding garbage : Mashed atack on the same slime enemies for 100 hours.The fact that you needed that explained proves what an unrelatable retard you are.>>12544969>casualgrinding games are casual. You veg out like soulless animal. Goyslop, truly.
>>12545197>muh Zeldano it doesn't. Zelda games are just gadget-based puzzles.. No strategy, no team building. Story? Story in Zelda is as bare bones as it gets. It's doom levels of story telling. Exploration? JRPGs capture your imagination better, a Zelda game will have 1 to 2 towns and they're both the size of a single city block. Jrpgs do a better job of feeling like your experiencing a thin slice of a bigger world.
>>12545429Interesting psychology on display here. This kid mistakes novelty for fun because of fried dopamine receptors. More shallow narrative content, low attention, and eternally seeking is exactly the foundation of goyherding.
>>12545428FF1 fucking sucks, not the genre of jrpgs.All bare bones paper thin grinding games are for retarded faggots. I know what you look like, I've met people like you, you're not good at anything and we can beat your ass in any genre of game. You play middlessly repetitive garbage because you're a bugman.
>>12545451>more shallow narrativegrinding games have the most shallow narratives. NES rpgs are as fucking shallow as it gets.
>>12545458Yes, they are children's games, like all jRPGs.You already said you're on an eternal quest for novelty, that you are a product of goyherding. I don't even play retro games anymore myself, so you can't really understand me. I'm just here to watch the animals in the zoo.
>>12545452>Reddit spacing>Having a problem with grinding when he's grinding hours of his life on goymes>Talking shit when the average /v/ anon would analize the average /vr/ uncLol. Kek-lmao even.>>12545458Thats ps1 and snes jarpigs. Genesis and Nes jarpigs have actual variety if you ignore Squareshit.
>>12545470>Xhe thinks he's not a zoo animal goyhoarder >While using social mediaKekaroo!
>>12545452Okay? You know, I wasn't old enough to game until '91 but I remember life being really boring. No phones, no Internet, even until the mid-late 90s. FF1 came out in '87? It must've been a grand adventure at the time.>Oh no my heckin' grindingCan it.
>>12545478So the insult is pointless, right? We are all goys mocking each other.Self-awareness kinda kills the aggression, doesn't it?
>>12545470What a hilarious cop out. I accept your defeat.>>12545473oh boy it's that brainrot shitposter from the chinkhelds thread. I was hoping you had finally killed yourself. I still find you boring. Also, i pirate everything, so the hoarder and money arguments can get flushed.
>>12545556>What a hilarious cop outWhy? Because the shoe is on the other foot?Your very desire to "win" makes you a goyslop loser here.
>>12545571incoherent jibberish. you lost, move on.
>>12545629Lost what?
>>12545651you just lost the game
>>12545657Never heard of it.
>>12544130Is this game not considered as an RPG?
>>12545747Are Zelda like games RPG?For me it's action-aventure not RPG
>>12545102it has about as much grinding in it as ff1 does, i.e. battles you need to fight to complete a dungeon>>12545416>>12545452>ff1 has too much grinding!!! dq1 has too much grinding!!! g-gameplay in an rpg??? NOOOOOO!!!that's pathetic, you 100% haven't played a truly grindy fc rpg like metal max, chaos world or dark lord. dark lord would make you kys i bet>>12545429>grinding games are casual. You veg out like soulless animal. Goyslop, truly.that's because you're dumb and play them like an idiot>>12545747is that legacy of kain? i think that's an action game, if it doesn't have xp
>>12545473based>>12545556debased
>>12545747It's a Hydloid
>>12544697>Chrono cross>Chrono triggereverything else can be argued but this is crazy talk
>>12545556>Reddit spacing>Reironiclly owning a chinkheld >Praying in 2026Lol. Kwab even.>>12546682Chrono trigger has some ass encounter design.
>Ancient Roman: Power of Dark SideYeah, baby! It's so bad that it's bad.
Why was ps1 jrpgs so freakin shiddy
aged like hot garbage without gameplay
>>12547050Ancient Roman or Air's Adventure? Which is actually the better game?
>>12544815Thanks for your opinion. I prefer 8 but that's my opinion. Isnt it great that we all get to choose what we like?
>>12547194thats fair anon, 7 and 8 are my two favorite games ever made so you cant go wrong with either. now 9 fags on the other hand...
