People would have called you gay and beat you up for playing this crap back in the day. But now zoomers rate it as a top retro game. What caused this change?
>>12544425Well it's a Japan only game and the Japanese are not subhumans that sperg out over people playing cute games
The zoomers you're interacting with aren't normies.
>>12544425I love Twinkle Star Sprites and would definitely shove OP into a locker.
>>12544428This game was in American arcades. That's why there's a version with glorious Engrish in it.
>>12544425Why are you gay?
Load Run is CUTE CUTE CUTE
>>12544591why does she sound like sean connery
Well it is gay as fuck and I would beat any faggot up for playing this
>>12544591>the virgin TSS 1cc'er>the chad TSS feederWell that aside, good thread OP.Twinkle Star Sprites has very quickly became my favorite as soon I touched it. So the answer to your question is basic enough: the game is fun, and the cute visuals only make it better.
>>12544723I've played this game for like 300 hours and have never seen that. That's awesome.
>>12544724It's easy enough to see, just spam continues at Mevious stage specifically in story mode.At 10+ he always says the same line(only the number is different), but he has different lines for certain numbers below 10.
>>12544425Because Americans and western society overall has twisted and absolutely retarded.Masculine = strong = good.thusFemine = weak = bad.butFemine = prettythusMasculine = uglysougly = masculine = goodandpretty = femine = badYou can even see this among the oh-so-hateful-towards-men feminists, trannies and other rainbow creatures. They are not pretty, femine and delicate. They all are ugly both physically and spiritually and are vocally proud of this ugliness. The hardcore feminist banshee will not put effort into feminity, instead they gonna go unwashed and unkept and call you a nazi for not embracing it as good.
This game has a side event at EVO Japan in about 3 hours. I doubt it'll be broadcast anywhere, but it's cool people are still playing it.
>>12544761*15 hours, not 3.
>>12544425>What caused this change?Posers fucking love anything with anime girls in it.
>own a Japanese Dreamcast>Twinkle star sprites is expensive >Don't have access to a CD burner>VA0 Dreamcast so I can install GDemuFuck my life, should have bought a Saturn instead
>>12544618Quite
>>12544425>zoomersDefine "zoomers".>What caused this change?There is no change. Walk up to a normalfag playing EA Sports and ask him of his opinion on this game. He'll call you a fag all the same.
>>12544425 >But now zoomers rate it as a top retro game. What caused this change?Zoomers opinions come from their favorite youtuber. The generation is a sponge with no free will of their own.Simple as.The game was an unremarkable 5/10 when it landed (both japanese and western reviewers shrugged their shoulders at it). It was just ok.Being "cute" was never an issue. Every western arcade had magical drop 3, bust a move and puzzlefighter at this point and they got regular play.
>>12545154>reviewersHope you aren't trying to argue their opinion means anything here, because that would make your post extremely ironic.
>>12545154>Every western arcade had magical drop 3, bust a move and puzzlefighter at this pointI still dont think I've seen a neogeo cabinet
Don't know and don't careThere's only one true Vs shmup in my eyes
>>12544425the socialism for those games have expanded a lot due to the internetall of the AI slop and rehashed type shit are frowned upon compared to something that is retro because the retro feels more fresh
>>125451681990s reviewers were gamers, not trannies like today.Please understand.
>>12545180Actually going for it when you got inb4'd, and doubling down with the buzzwords.Amazing display of free will and independent thinking there.
>>12545154>>12545180Can we get some awful 90s magazine reviews of Twinkle Star Sprites in the thread? I need some vitriol on this lovely Saturday morning.
>>12545190IGN review of dreamcast version in 2000:>What happens when you take a 2D shooter and combine it with a puzzle game and 90's graphics? Snore.>Unlike the majority of 2D shooters, Twinkle Star Sprites isn't much fun in solo play -- you basically slog your way through a series of AI opponents. Neither "Story Mode" or "Character Mode" are that appealing for long-term play. But the game really shines when you've got another buddy playing along >Twinkle Star Sprites is an okay little 2D shoot-em-up with remotely enjoyable competitive play, and chances are good that it won't hit the States any time soon.No one was paying them to review it, nor any poltics to review bomb it, it was an import they brought in on their own dime and they were simply underwhelmed. Famitsu gave it a 53/100 as well for the saturn version.
>>12545219Obsessed>>12545202Too low energy, at least pick one that's funny.Also I bet they got trashed by the AI lol
Cute things are cute.
>>12545225>Too low energyThey got bored playing it. What would you expect them to write? People didnt overreact like avgn and tardrage over games back then. They just walked away and played better games.
>>12545230Dunno, I would expect either an "informed" negative review that throughly covers some of the game flaws(even if they might exaggerate or ignore all the good aspects), or trash it mercilessly as if their lives depended on whether people played a cute VS shmup, either work for funsies.That one was literally just saying 1P mode isn't too interesting because you just fight the CPUs(as opposed to what exactly?) and that it would be fun with friends, but how about you cover how the game actually plays? So far it's unironically worse than the average YT review.
>>12545227Also yes quite. TSS is straight cute 'em up where everything needs to be cute(characters, zako, bosses, some of the special attacks) though, not just casually cute.
>cute any man who uses this word is a pedophile
>>12544591>there are people who don't know the joys of SWEET TACOS
>>12544425>1996Eh. Yeah, people probably would have called you gay for it, but I'm sure it was still enjoyed in arcades by people who were actually enthusiasts (my arcades never had the game). Gamers enjoyed a lot of things that could get you called gay back then (which was nearly everything). If a game is fun, there are people willing to play it. And as soon as people started playing on MAME it got respect from people into that. The types of people calling you a fag for liking Twinkle Star Sprites didn't overlap heavily with the people deeply into Neo Geo. You might get called gay for playing it, half-jokingly, and you might also play multiplayer with the same person after. By the late 90s/early 2000s, we called stuff "gay," but it wasn't that serious and you wouldn't get beaten up unless you were in some backwards shithole town.Sure a girly cute em up ranks higher on the homo scale than most - but Pokemon could be pretty cutesy too at times a couple years later, and became the most popular thing ever. Pokemon appealed to fans of both cute and tough things, but still.On a side note, kids in my region started calling everything gay way more after South Park came out in 1997. That's genuinely the first place I heard the word being used that way, and all the boys at school copied the show. Very early on, most people separated calling things gay from actually hating gay people (season 1 of South Park also had Big Gay Al, and a message of tolerance).
>>12545154>Being "cute" was never an issue. Every western arcade had magical drop 3, bust a move and puzzlefighter at this point and they got regular play.This. Bub and Bob are cute little dragons and people played the hell out of their games.>>12545172They were everywhere in California at least. Even outside arcades, every other pizza place near me had a Neo Geo. Bust A Move and Metal Slug were very common games to see on them.
>>12545227sure but when it comes to video GAMES the GAMEplay needs to be fun. otherwise, why not just look up art of the characters?
>>12545324TSS has great gameplay
>But now zoomers rate it as a top retro gameIt's always been a top tier game, retro or not.
>>12545325it doesn't. you're either being contrarian because you're lonely and want people to talk to you, or you're a dimwit blinded by the art design.
>>12545339you've become delusional from hatred on cute things
anons... the fun you're having... it's not real...
>>12545339>contrarianBut it's a popular opinion now according to OP...It's also one of the games included in that new NG thing.
Its not even the best in the "cute-em-up" genre. There are cuter girls who fly and shoot things. Cute girls in bunny suits for example.
>>12545343notice how I did not critique the art design. you're flailing
>>12545357it's a versus STG not a cute em up anon
>>12545362You can be both at once since cute 'em up is a style rather than a genre(since the genre is still shoot 'em up)
>>12545365you explicitly said genre not art style
>>12545371Not the same anon, just saying tho
>>12544980Both Dreamcast and Saturn ports of TSS suck ass in different ways
>>12545376What's wrong with the Dreamcast one?True for Saturn though, because the audio mixing sucks and the new character is banlist material in a game where only boss characters are banned.
>>12545379>What's wrong with the Dreamcast one?3 frames of lag, darkened graphics, mvs-inaccurate slowdown
>>12545376At least is a way to play both of them at home on my TV.Well, nowadays the arcade archives is also an option.
>>12545154I can hear your joints creaking when you type this, old man. Continue to be afraid of the younger generation playing more retro games than you. It's hilarious.
>>12545365Even the casualfag people who labeled everything (tvtropes) list both games as cute'em ups. Its a very poorly defined subgenre.
>>12545384The only valid option in 2026 is emulating the original rom on FBN. Might also want to add 1 frame of run ahead, but it's optional
>>12545382>3 frames of lagFair enough>darkened graphicsNoticed it, but it's fine really.>mvs-inaccurate slowdownNot sure about this one because you are able to change slowdown options. If you set it to "Dreamcast" like here, it will mean basically no slowdown, but there is also an arcade option.
>>12545394iirc there's 3 options for slowdown which are 68000, arcade and dreamcast"arcade" is mvs-inaccurate is what I was referring to
>>12545390Don't think it should be considered an actual genre, since the only difference between shoot 'em up and cute 'em up is literally just the cute aesthetics.
>>12544425people called me gay and beat me up and I didnt even get to play this game back in the day
>>12545408can you blame them? they were right, you are gay
>>12545379>What's wrong with the Dreamcast one?It's not the one people play on Fightcade so there's no one to play it with.
>>12545426I mean yea, but it was a technical question.Think Dreamcast could be an option if you specifically want to play it without slowdown, you can more or less deal with the lag frames through runahead.
>>125454311. TSS is nigh unplayable without slowdown on higher levels2. You can't use runahead for dreamcast
>>12545436>TSS is nigh unplayable without slowdown on higher levelsIt would just lead to a more conservative style of play. The game is rather versatile.
>>12545441I mean, you can already overlock emulated neo geo's cpu to eliminate slowdown. Nobody does that, because the game was balanced around it.
>>12545447Not contesting that the intention is to play it with mvs slowdown, just saying that it could be an alternative option for people who might want to try playing it at full speed and see how the games would go.
>>12545154It's not that it's cute, it's that it's girly. You can have a game that's cute but not girly. Bust a Move isn't girly. Puzzle Fighter isn't girly. Twinbee isn't girly. Magical Drop is very girly and I don't know about you but growing up I never saw a Magical Drop cab and didn't even know it existed until I was out of high school
>>12545465My university bar had magical drop, as did one of the pool halls down town. The neo geo 4-slot cabs were everywhere and among the games in them there would a token fighting game, magical drop, metal slug and then some random older game like king of the monsters. Or bust a move, it was everywhere. The older eaely 90s neongeo games tended to end up in convenience stores and pizza place, while arcades got the newer titles. Neo geo machines were among the most common sights that decade besides old sf2 champion edition cabs.
You don't fail the noob check, do you, anon?
>>12545661I fail to see how could that be an issue at all.
>>12545698The hitbox of your projectiles is wider than the hitbox of your character, so if you get close enough to zakos you can shoot them from the side. You can use this on one of the early game formations to pop a bubble early and get a faster perfect. A lot of new players go for this and end up bonking instead.
>>12544425>liking girls is gay
>>12545565Over here most of the big reds were single slot variants with the rare two slot, bust a move was a really popular pick for non-arcade places like community centers and laundromats because it was pretty family friendly, and if it was a two slot the second game was almost always some kof entry. Actual arcades in the area would sometimes have the four slots with a metal slug game or (a second) kof game, perhaps samsho2, and usually some sports game, but it wasn't til I visited a newly opened arcade did I see magical Drop for the first time, and the damn thing was in an astro city
>>12545724It's a joke anon.
>>12545698>>12545764My wives
>>12545775Now that I think about it, I bet that if you wanted to marry one, they would just say you gotta marry both instead And you are always doing threesomes, they won't be fucking if you separate them.
>>12544425Back then, it was a game that everyone loved when they tried it. It was a star game of our biweekly gatherings. It was one of the reasons the Saturn was a popular system in my circle of friends. It works great in a party setting, as it can churn through players, and they'd all have a good time in quick bursts yet still worthwhile to watch and observe others.
>>12544425No one minded because cute girls just that, they would have called you gay if you played WWF bullshit.
>>12544425That means only the manliest men played it.
>>12547714games that involve young girls are played exclusively by young girls and young girl enjoyers
>>12546864This. It's one of the funniest game to watch with friends. Even the aftermath when the loser will try to justify his loss in bad faith (the framerate or slowdown, that special is cheesy, that boss is OP...) is hilarious.
>>12545789That's why I love twins, they are cute but I hate having to pick only one (so I pick both)>>12546864Neat collection, now all you need is a Neo Geo
>>12546864>Back then, it was a game that everyone loved when they tried it. It was a star game of our biweekly gatheringsBy "back then" do you mean 2014?Saturn version was unreleased outside japan and region locked.
>>12544425Is their generation the sole thing that define zoomers? They seem absolutely obsessed with age as an identity.
>>12544819>Posers fucking love anything with anime girls in it.this is the actual answeranime is mainstream and gay nowused to be, a weeb was a weeb. very rarely, youd see one in the wild, notice their katana, then both instinctively reach beneath our trenchcoats for our blades, making intense eye contact as the shot goes extremely wideframe showing only our eyes. a quiet nod of respect, as our hands relax from our weapons and it became clear they were not an opponent, but a fellow man of culture.its not like that anymoreits just normal and hyper casul and surface-level now. even the irl e-girls are all just trying to LARP as le quirky animu characters. its just disgusting. anime was a mistake
>>12549730If you only ever liked anime to be contrarian and "not like other girls", you never really liked anime and have no right to call anyone a normie.
why were burgers mind raped by anything remotely cute in gaming for DECADES?
Meanwhile, the 90's in my country...
>>12549764Reminds me that the Sailor Moon anime was randomly aired at like 5AM at weekends where I lived as a kid. No idea if it was an early weeb who took advantage of the undesirable time slot or some old guy who saw something vaguely cartoon related and decided to just jam it in.
>>12549764Sailor Moon anime was one of the best things that ever happened in japanese subculture.
>>12549757Because the west did their best to hide the fact that cute anime styles existed at all.
>>12549789yes, why were they so mind raped by it that they felt the need to hide it at every turn
>>12549789>Purple hair on the front cover>Blonde on the back coverWhy?
>>12549795US just has a completely different view of cuteness, usually associated only with children media.Japan turned kawaii into a perfectly universal thing that can blend into whatever, and is for every audience.
>>12549734no i only ever liked anime because up until i was like 10 or 12, they made a ton of good anime, and it was always way way better than anything the west had going on cartoon or comic-wise at the time. and then they just decided to stop for some reason. not stop making anime. they made way more of that. too much. and by like late 00s into 10s it just became this insurmountable tidal wave of fluff. no one in their right mind would want to engage with all that slop, sifting through the literal 1000s of isekais to find the one unironically good one. and why would they? just go watch escaflowne. it was better, its not 400episodes long, and the robot things still look crazy af. also itll remind you tomboys used to exist.the animation was always more SOVL back then, and the character designs way less exaggerated and trope-reliant. it wasnt mandatory yet that every show had to have a highschool section with an androgynous friend (male) who dresses like a girl for reasons that are never addressed. the writers were aware they had a younger audience back then, but they werent afraid to push boundaries a little to try to make a better show. they were just a lot more adventurous in general.now the market is saturated and super competitive. such that it incentivizes shows to just try to stack up the right combination of tropes so they can be the next smash intl animu hit and when was the last time THAT happened with a seasonal show? oh right, like 2 decades agotl;drold gudnu badunironically>>12549764SM was huge in the states too desu. literally almost as big as DBZ. its not like america just h8d qt shit on principal
>>12549816>SM was huge in the states too desu. literally almost as big as DBZWhere are your Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon games then?
>>12549816You know you don't have to watch literally every anime series that comes out right.Much like I doubt anyone has played every single game for a specific console(or arcade as a whole) or generation.
>>12547698They called you gay if you did anything. I guess it's called cringe now.
>>12549821In the US they removed the dragon ball license and released it has "dragon power"
>>12549821we got somenot as much as like latin america, obviously, but both shows were nearly ubiquitously enjoyed by kids in the 90s. or at least one or the other.>>12549824>don't have to watch literally every anime series that comes out right.well you still have to find one thats actually worth watching, and thats far easier said than done>I doubt anyone has played every single game for a specific consolemaybe not PS2 or anything crazy like that, but you could totally sit down and play through for ex the entire US TGFX16 line-up and it wouldnt take long. compare that to the pure volume of anime released/localized in the past 20yrs. even narrowing down by genres, its still a lot to sift throughjust doesnt seem worth it imo
>>12549830dragonBALL was before anime rly popped off here. it was still aired on tv, along with ranma and robotech/macross, but usually at weird hrs or on some obscure local antennae channelby contrast, DBZ and SM were literal primetime cable slots, as soon as you got home from school. not even pokemon had thatidk why they bothered to change it tho. there were still weebs who like DB in the NES era. i doubt the license wouldve hurt, in any case
>>12549859If I remember correctly the US didn't have a full OG dragon dub until much later right?In my country they aired OG Dragonball at like 12~ 1 pm and Z at 5~6 pm followed by Saint Seiya(in the early 00s) almost every day. Now they air it on weekends
>>12549859>still weebs who like DB in the NES era. Maybe in europe? France was the only country outaide japan that had translated dragonball on tv, and it flopped hard until the late 90s relaunch. Canada and US got it later, with a single season of original DB before jumping to DBZ in 1996/97. It again flopped.DBZ finally got big in North America in 1999 whe it was re-launched on cartoon network when paired with other more mature anime.
>>12549764>We ALMOST got a localized version in 1996 in LatAm among Super Butoden 2>Club Nintendo preview it once in one of it issues.>They never did cover it>NintendoMania preview a preview of it in one of it's commercial breaks>They bail out and didn't show the game or talk about it at all>The game is actually pretty shitty for a beat em up.
>>12549940>and it flopped hard until the late 90s relaunch.If you mean Dragon Ball (not Z), it didn't "flop", there is a reason why we got the NES game. DBZ was a massive hit from the start, that's why we got DBZ games on SNES and The Legend was a system seller for the Saturn.
>>12549981>there is a reason why we got the NES gameYea we got the game all right. Dragon ball with all the anime removed.Only france got the original art cover.
>wow so gay
>>12549764Why they chose specifically france?
>>12545202I wouldn't even call that a negative review. It's snarky, but even they admit the multiplayer is fun.
>>12550132pedophilia = gay
>>12549987games still the same tho. it literally IS just the first season or so of DB. even the names in-game are still the same
Top PS1 games as rated by boomers>Final Fantasy 7>Metal Gear Solid>Symphony Of The Night>Gran Turismo>Tekken 3>Vagrant Story>Mega Man Legends>Resident Evil 2>Tomb Raider>Crash Bandicoot>Chrono Cross>Spyro 2>Silent Hill>Xenogears>KlonoaTop PS1 games as rated by zoomers>Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2>Crash Team Racing>Armored Core>Bust a Groove>Street Fighter Alpha 3>Wipeout 2097>Einhänder>Kula World>Dino Crisis 2>Time Crisis>Gradius Gaiden>King's Field 2>Incredible Crisis>Jackie Chan Stuntmaster>Mr. Driller
>>12549981yea idk about flopped. anime was just extremely niche back then, and there was very few series localized yet. ranma was the first """hit""", but DB definitely immediately had a following. and views obviously couldntve been THAT bad, since they pulled out the stops and gave DBZ a literal primetime slot. i doubt they wouldve done that if they didnt think there was any interest in the states.
>>12550196>both lists are literal hipstershit b8why even bother typing something that gay and pointless out?
>>12550185Game is same but with references to Dragon Ball filed off. You're not helping your case here.
>>12550215How can it be anything but a flop when the three previous companies that released it all walked away after a single season? >harmony gold tried dragonball in 1989 and walked away after a single VHS release was mostly ignored>1995 BLT tried their hand at dragon ball and it had limited synication exposure, and was dropped after 13 episodes>1996 saban (ocean dub) skipped right to DBZ and had compressed the first few cours into a single long season. >Limited success in syndication, did better in canada this time, but they too walked away from it.>1999 it was added to toonami block and was finally popular enought to continue broadcast, so toonami re-dubbed it and then finally release freiza and cell saga in late 2000-2001That was a long slownroad to get there.
>>12545728
>>12549940>>12549940>France was the only country outaide japan that had translated dragonball on tv, and it flopped hard until the late 90s relaunch.>DoubtEven ruling out the Asian countries like China and Hong Kong that had Dragon Ball dubs in their language, dubs made by Spain (Castillian, Catalan, Valencian, Galician, and Basque) start dating back to late '80s and early '90s.https://doblaje-espana.fandom.com/es/wiki/Dragon_BallThe one in Latin American Spanish dates back to the mid '90s.https://doblaje.fandom.com/es/wiki/Dragon_BallThe one from Portugal started in 1996https://wikidobragens.fandom.com/pt/wiki/Dragon_BallThe one from Brazil also started in 1996https://dublagem.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_BallItaly had an early dub in 1990https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Original_Italian_dubThe most famous Italian dub is from 1996https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Italian_dubPretty safe to say that while not as huge as it was doing in France, Spain wasn't far behind in popularity, and ignoring the aborted first Italian dub, Spain didn't wait until 1996 like the other dubs. Don't know if Romania had anime dubs in the '90s to comment on theirs.>DBZ finally got big in North America in 1999Dragon Ball was fuck huge in Mexico before 1999. Even if you're retard who thinks Mexico isn't a North American country (either for political reasons or Burger education), basic geography disagrees with you.
>>12545339>contrarianThe irony, the only contrarian here is you.
Here's your chance to buy a brand new official AES copy of the game:https://www.amazon.com/Twinkle-Star-Sprites-Not-Machine-Specific/dp/B0GXCBY4GC/
>>12550556My god that's expensive. Bet it's cheaper than a real copy
