So this game got translated this month. Some claim it's one of the best survival horror games ever and arguably the best Japanese PS2 game to never get translated. I got it patched and it's working fine but it seems like the translation flew under the radar. Not even up on Repo after a month.Anyone played it? It looks dope
>>12549741>So this game got translated this month. Some claim it's one of the best survival horror games ever and arguably the best Japanese PS2 game to never get translated.Why would it be? It was more pressing that Americans play THQ licensed cartoon slop instead.
>>12549741Neat, thanks for the heads up. Link to translation?
>>12549741Ayy, I remember being interested in this years ago but got filtered because I'm too lazy to learn noodle runes. I should give it a try if it works, looked sick.
Whoa, this actually translates? The old boobtuber video essays must have pushed someone to go all the way. I'm interested to try it out.Forgive me for asking but now that cdromance is kind of shite is there a decent easy place for prepatched iso's/bins?
>>12549752Link is here free on their patreon. That must be why it's so unknown, it's not even on Romhacking sitehttps://www.patreon.com/posts/hungry-ghosts-153595071
>>12549762You have to go to their sister site Repo. I feel comfortable linking this stuff here since /vr/ is dead as fuck but don't go spreading it around. That's exactly why they had to start using their sister site in the first place. Too many normies caught wind of it and they don't seem to understand the concept of law enforcement being able to enforce things online for some reason so they never shut the fuck up about how great it is to steal.
>>12549763Do romhacking sites accept patches that are 1 GB though...
>>12549741There was a group working on this for years, is this a different group? Never heard of "Cash">>12549763>This is where Cash/wtfyd came along with his approach: using Google Translation API and some image editing, he was done translating the game in record time. Even if it's a rough translation, the game itself didn't showed any serious issues and I was able to finish it with multiple routes.
>>12549776Idk, I almost never download patches directly. That's probably what it is.
>>12549776I've seen patches >1GB on RHDN, but they're external links to mega or Google drive
>>12549780>google translate in 2026Is it at least AI powered these days? The old model for Google Translate was always horrible.
>>12549780Ooo, well that would certainly turn some people off but I already read poorly translated classic lit and enjoy trying to retranslate/recontextualize sentences so machine translated is fine by me as long as it's been given at least a quick once over for readability.
>>12549763>https://www.patreon.com/posts/hungry-ghosts-153595071no wonder it flew under the radar
>>12549763>another translation "in the works" by a whole group of people for years>snatched and done by two people in no time like it was nothingThis just keeps happening and I love it
>>12549870It's great when they have the nerve to get indignant after they're called out for their slop.
>Some claim it's one of the best survival horror games ever[citation needed]
>>12549870same
>>12549927I googled it and numerous comments on YouTube videos said it was amazing.
>>12549870you love when people that don't know japanese and feed it into a questionable mediocre LLM model for translation instead? what?
>>12549938>the youtube bot told meuwa...
>>12549870It warms my heart how the fags that were originally """translating""" the games get so upset
>>12549941English isn't their first language so they're fine reading shit like this
>>12549870>It's ok if it's shit as long as I get to play itAnd this is why video games are shit and half-finished nowadays
Game looks good. Shame about the trannylation. Skipped.
>>12550000Yeah ok this is bad. I feel like retroarch's AI translation would do a better job here even though it's also based on google.
>>12550000wow this is pretty badstill somehow better than what fan translators shit out tho
Now we just need the Twilight Syndrome trilogy.
>>12550000>Even those things have things effect of smellwith things lighteffectthings that have Those are things By eating things>I have to be prepaired and not being certain.
>all these faggots whinging about the quality of the translationMake your own?? >but these guys cheated with AIBaseless accusation, plus if you did it yourself, you could just specialize AI models or each process, with manual review anyway.This is almost as bad as the VTMB faggots who've done nothing but complain about two mods for the past twenty years.
>>12550000makes sense i guess. the people that seethe over fan translations are already ESLs that have a tenuous grasp on the language to begin with
>>12549741>no retroachievementsyawn>>12550000 checkedfucking kek
>>12550000Should have used GPT to translate instead of Google Translate, the former is better than 99% of fan translations while the latter is woefully outdated and barely coherent compared to the alternatives.
>>12550056>so what if its wet rancid dogshit at least its here
>>12550000Oh, nevermind. Hype cancelled.
>>12550071>ewww dogshit>I think I'll step in it>woooowwww now I'm angryRetard.
>>12550094It's more like>hey you know thats dogshit you're eating right?>so whatYou're the guy eating dogshit btw
>>12550000Jesus fucking kek.
>>12550000Oh no... oh no no no
>>12550000It's kind of amazing that some indian has the know-how to crack a PS2 game and patch it but can't just give the script to someone for them to make a competent translation.Like, it's not like this is a visual novel with 50 thousand lines. How much is there to translate? Like 1000-2000 lines? You could do it in a week.
>>12550129I think it actually might have a lot of text. I looked at the fan translation twitter account and apparently examination text changes depending on the player state, the object state, and whether or not you have some specific item. That kind of shit is what makes translating games more annoying than other stuff.
>>12550000Jesus christ that's bad. What the fuckAlso nice digits
>>12550000Oooo, that's not great but if the game isn't text heavy it's still better than nothing.
>>12550184It's Lovecraftian so sanity effects make sense. That does sound like shita
>>12550184>>12550341Does sanity mess up the game text like some old PC games did? The screen cap above may be out of context, if that's the case.
>>12549741Is it a translation, TRANSlation, or MTLation?
>>12550184I still just don't think it can take that long. Sentences, even machine translated, should be able to be parsed into something coherent fairly rapidly with any kind of collegiate reading ability. It's a video game, it's not classic literature. Is there some way we can pitch in to these projects usually? I have zero technical skills but I read a lot of stuff in translation and am well versed in comparing various texts to understand what the original was trying to say. Often for very old and erudite works that video game text is child's play compared to. It's another human being trying to tell a coherent plot, it's not some schizo ancient temple cuneiform writings. I feel like we can get to translating these games in rapid succession with a bit of organization. The only thing stopping me is that I have no idea how to patch and replace text like that
>>12550624Holy shit you're stupid. >>>/v/ Leave....NOW
>>12550624The big issue is just that a person with both the ability to do a good job and the free time to do it quickly is a unicorn, so you need at least 2 unicorns in most cases. The only real outcomes are you get a good job done slowly, or you get a moron doing a crap job quickly.
>>12550000Dammit. MTL with a sapient english speaker editor at the end isn't that bad, but only seamonkeys and indians ever end up stooping to use it and they output complete shit.
>>12550338Are you the op? And this guy? >>12549797If so, do you even know anything about this game? It's extremely text heavy.
>>12550624Even if you mean well, you are clueless. Japanese is a very context sensitive language. Translating a text heavy game that is also mechanically dense, such as a lot of older JRPG's, is seldom straightforward.
>>12550845But we largely know the context. They've been posting AI translations vs localizers on /v/ for months and the AI does reasonably fine by itself. This ain't that hard. I get there's going to be a lot of different terms for the same person's name or various objects, like Russian.The AI is good enough that clarifying text shouldn't be that hard. Hell, that shit translation pictured above in the thread can be rewritten reasonably ok just from what's shown.
>>12550910You can easily turn it into something intelligible, but without the original text and knowledge of the language you can't be sure you're turning it into something that accurately conveys as much of the original intent as possible.
>>12550000I'm guessing the "smell" is something akin to burning sage and you can get and use items which release various religious herbs that burn demonsLight is a similar thing that's probably a mix of actual light and some sort of holy/religious connotation of the objects used to produce said like. Like "Holy Fire" is sometimes used in English. A bit more context actually booting the game would help but I'm like 60% certain that's the correct meaning of the items explained in this tutorial screen. Once you know that it can be rewritten more legibly without too much issue. An item description/effect from a jap wiki would also be helpful but really that's just not that confusing and a human looking it over for 5 minutes should be enough to make it comprehensible
>>12550914With enough context you can be 95% correct without too much issue. The posted machine translation proves that it shouldn't take more than a few people with a good understanding and ability to read foreign text in translation.It takes a deep understanding of the context but that's not that hard to get for a video game.
>>12550000Soul. Early 90s Engrish tier
>>12550000Shit like this makes my blood boil and angerier than a black nigress. Same shit happened with Molmorth Calvary of 7: >Shitskin released a full translation on CDR>Just threw everything into Jewgle translate with 0 proof reading>It's all incomprehensible garbage that's absolutely frustrating to read >Gets a bunch of asspats from other users for what basically amounts to a participation trophy>Faggot gets called out by one person for doing a shit job>Also gets called out for snatching other translation projects while having the gall to ask for donations >"BAAAAAAAWWW STOP CRITICIZING ME LETS SEE YOU DO BETTER NO I WONT GIVE YOU MY HEX EDITOR TO DO IT HELP TRANNY JANNIES">Thread gets lockedAll this bragging about how AI's gonna dab on the trannilators and then you get trash like this with pompous retards like OP at the helm, lazily chucking it at Cleverbot-tier coding to spit out what amounts to pure gibberish, advertising it by samefagging on a dying slant-eyed pedo jerking forum full of bots.Just kill all turdworlders at this point. Kill'em dead. Idc if these niggers do it for the love of the hobby. If you DON'T speak fluent English or have a galaxy level understanding of Japanese then DON'T TRANSLATE IT!
>snatching other translation projects lollmao even
A tale as old as time:>egotistical faggot announces translation 15 years ago>doesn't release the source script or source code in the meantime>due to ego, refuses to collaborate with upstart programmer who is actually willing to finish the job>said programmer goes it solo/collabs with other people and finally releases the game>egotistical faggot gets butthurt over stolen valour>still doesn't release the script/source code
>>12551024enjoy your third world mtlation it's what you faggots deserve
>>12550917Proves it ain't that hard to do decent quickly.
>>12551027You're irrelevant. Just like your poo(r) work will be by next week.
>>12551024same energy
>>12551027hi, cyberwarrior!
>>12550641>>12550845>>12550914Hello, Cofresh. Nice to see plebbit wasn't taking your shit so you ran away licking your wounds and decided to come its sister site for asspats thinking it'd be any different. lol Weird that this was a month ago and you're still attempting to shill your awful excuse of a translation simply because you're an impatient thirdie with 0 talant, knowlegde and respect for the source material. Pretty funny (if not pathetic) that trannies outmatch you ESLs both in dedication and skill. Maybe you need to consoom more tranime in order to have some respect for the media you supposedly care about.
>>12551143These are clearly two different people, shut the fuck up you faggot ass r_dditor.The guy in this thread clearly just explained that this hack can be edited to make sense. The problem isn't that he used AU, the problem is that he's a zero effort shit skin retard who did it an attempt to make a quick buck.AI is still better than troons like you, at literally everything. Cope faggot, the world never liked you and there will never be a place for you.
>>12550631Nice projection
>tranime You need to go back.
>>12551159>AI is still better than troons like you, at literally everything. Cope faggot, the world never liked you and there will never be a place for you.This is actually true. Especially the retards who are like "no, it's actually very dificult you don't understand japanese is extremely nuanced *sips tea*Basically you have two types: -the indian who doesn't know jack shit about english but still produces a translation, -the pretentious guy who says it's literally impossible and rants with \5 other people about actually no you should just learn japanese it's fucking impossible-and the dude who actually does the work in like three weeks and puts it out in one post and then doesn't say anything else
>>12551159>>12551206You do understand this is AI translation? Even the most retarded Indian would be able to tell that the sentence structure sounds weird.AI on the other hand, can't tell shit. Which is why AI translations are terrible and will remain terrible.
>>12551213How do you know? Could be Google TranslateAnyway, it sounds like you're the #2 type kek
>>12551217>Could be Google TranslateWhat do you think google translate is?>literally impossibleAI can't remember what you asked it to do a moment ago and you want it to give you coherent translation of a language where most stuff can have different meaning?I swear there is no difference between ai simps and tranny simps when it comes to translation.Both accept shit for ideological reasons.
>>12551159>slop AI isn't inherantly troonylol, lmao evenonly thing I want to know is if the game is worth playing with a pajeet-tier translation, I think Ill just wait
>>12551213I've had AI translate shot for me, and it wasn't anything like this. And when AI shits the bed, i just tell it to fix it and it do3s. Cope tranny, you've been replaced.In this pic it fucked up terry's hand. i told it to fix it and it did
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>>12551223>What do you think google translate is?Not a full LLM? You're exposing yourself as a retard
>>12551231>using AI to make old boxartholy fucking kino
>>12550000it absolutely baffles me that there are people smart enough to hack and translate a game but that same person isn't smart enough to do a fucking proofread
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>>12551231>I've had AI translate shot for me, and it wasn't anything like this.Of course not.>And when AI shits the bed, i just tell it to fix it and it do3sHow do you know it shits the bed since you don't know Jap? It could be giving you complete made up shit and you wouldn't know it.>In this pic it fucked up terry's hand. i told it to fix it and it didNow imagine if you didn't know how a hand looked like? Would you accept the failure? Of course you would.>>12551245>LLMBuzzword that means nothing. The fundamentals are still based on algorithms that try to guess/predict stuff as much as possible.And if you are gonna reply with retard or make an AI response, don't even bother.
>AI jeet gets triggered and starts spamming xer ugly garbage everywhereNeed a containment board for these creatures.
>>12551272Context and meaning are good enough to tell if it shit the bed or not.Nobody needs you tranny.
>>12551273How about we kill all Indians and all trannies and just replace them with AI?
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>>12551274Original Jap:I went to the forest to collect some mushrooms to sell to the nearby village.AI:I went to the village to buy some mushrroms.Both have passing context, yet the meaning is entirely different.You can only spot this fi you know the original language.and for added bonus,tranny:I ate some mushrooms in the forrest,LOL.
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>>12551293>you will know what this is a sequel toI love that
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>>12551302half of these i made because i didn't like the inconsistent naming scheme of some of these retro games, especially when they have a wildly different name in each region
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>>12551307i use 3:2 boxart for gba in emulation station
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>>12551304What model? They look great
>>12551313i just told to use 90s anime ava art style
>>12551314Told what? Grok?
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>>12551324Holy shit fuck off
>>12551317Holy fucking kinooooEnough to win me over to some games. I'm not really a KOF guy, but give it rad box art and fuck it I'll play it
So this is literally an Indian that can't even speak English and is using google translate to pretend he can, and then also adding the later of "translating" Japanese to English. And now he's trying to spam shit off the catalog because he's mentally ill too.
All I'm saying is - there is no way it is harder to parse/rewrite some text in a video game translated from modern Japanese then it is to read some ancient ass literature. I read this entire book, scanned directly from an original 1650s copy. And it includes texts from as far back as the 1200s. That's hard to parse, not AI translated video game text. You should be able to translate all but the most text heavy games in a month or less. Literally the only hard part is getting all the text ripped to a single location so translators can work on it
>>12550000kek it's just like Zill O'll Infinite fan translation it's been 3 years and no one fixed it so give up all hope for this one too
>>12551642>You should be able to translate all but the most text heavy games in a month or less. Literally the only hard part is getting all the text ripped to a single location so translators can work on itTranslate game. Programmer tells you to cut it in half because game doesn't support so many characters.The actual hard part is implementing the translation.Try dealing with obscure shit like turbografx or wonderswan.
I watched a YouTube video of it and looks like it's a walking simulator
>>12551919zoomers are a blight
>>12551920They are but I don't know what that has to do with my post
>>12551729During the cartridge era this was really an issue--translated dialog boxes often had to be trimmed down because English dialog would require more character than Japanese dialog.
>>12551057kek what the fuck was Phil Fish's problem, it's like he had an entire broomstick up his ass.
>>12551920i'm 34, you insecure fatso
>>12552037millennials are a blight
>>12551721Why would a shitty translation no one uses cause others to stop making a proper one? That sounds autistic as fuck. If the translation is so bad it's unusable then the translation may as well not exist
>>12551630the Indian who did a shitty transaction isn't here. I'm a different guy just letting you know that even though this retarded fucking indian shit out the laziest unproofread translation ever, the AI is still better than you useless fucking trannies. This fail isn't a condemnation of AI, it's a condemnation of Indians.Cope. Seethe. pick up the phone and Dial 8.>>12552029he's a jew.
>>12552284Obsessed.
>12552284go back to /g/eet
>>12550624>donning_kruger_award.jpg
>>12551642You do it then if it's so easy.
>>12552346We'll never know unless someone posts texts that can be translated now will we? The game text posted in this thread I managed to get the gist of despite being gibberish to others. The fact that it's not commonplace to just post a game script and accept open source translations is just dumb. The easiest part of translating a game being gatekept behind tech autism is clearly not helping these games get translated fasterSee here, this ain't complicated. And again I have literally zero context for this besides knowing you fight ghosts. >>12550917
>>12552367I would love to, I just have no idea how to get the text into txt document that I can copy paste from. That is the only thing stopping me from trying to translate countless games.
>>12552376The technical stuff isn't so bad. It's even kind of fun, like a puzzle. Translating the text, on the other hand, is absolutely mind-numbing and will drive you insane.
>>12552382Go contact the guy that made this translation. No pussying out now.
>>12551642>Literally the only hard part is getting all the text ripped to a single location so translators can work on itNot really. Just having a big spreadsheet dump of all the text is how you wind up with stuff like FF7's original translation. You need to have context for all the dialogue, so translators need to be able to actually play the game as well. Depending on how complex the game is, there can be a lot of triggers that require multiple playthroughs to check as well.
>>12550000the best part is because they released "something", community will now consider it "done" so no one will go back to fix it
>>12552596The discord group might keep working on it. I never joined it so I dunno if they're even active though.
>>12551642>Literally the only hard part is getting all the text ripped to a single location so translators can work on itNah, the hardest and most time consuming part is all the fucking QA and playtesting.You can have a "perfect translation" on paper but wind up with shit that makes absolutely no sense once it's inserted into the game because you lacked context for various lines, who says them, when they happen, and so on and so forth.Getting a first draft laid out? That IS easy, but only if you record a playthrough and/or have extensive documentation about each scene so that you know 100% what is going on.There's nothing in this world worse than having to guess the context of text that rarely appears, or sometimes that doesn't even appear at all, and finding out you were wrong when you or a tester (or worse, a player) stumbles into it.In a professional environment this isn't as awful because you can do stuff like ask for recordings of the game/the cutscenes/other shit, you can do your draft and pass it off to another translator/the editor to catch mistakes and adjust for tone and flow, hand it off to playtesters to make sure shit works properly. In the fan sphere, you're usually on your own or in a hacker/translator team with little other support.A game the size of Final Fantasy VI or Chrono Trigger should realistically take less than a week to draft out and about that much time to clean up and edit... under ideal conditions. What no one tells you is, you never get "ideal" conditions.
>>12552725I think anyone who is not also playing the game while translating is retarded. And if the game is non-linear? Fuck if I care, I release my 1.0 and then when people complain I ask for their save file and fix it
>>12552596That's fucking true, happens with visual novels. Must be even worse with games since the hacking part is more complicated
>>12552423To be fair those indians often don't reply or when they reply they act like fucking weirdos. It's really the biggest subhuman people making translations a lot of the time, especially if it's AI
>>12551205anime website, sharteen
>>12552892Go ahead, run away.
>>12552979>i dare ya i dare yaAre you 12?
>>12552885>I think anyone who is not also playing the game while translating is retardedBut this is backwards.Translation should always begin with a rigorous familiarization phase. A normal playthrough like any other player would do is the bare minimum. Better is one where you document the who/what/when/why/how of scenes, the dialogues you see in particular areas (towns, maps, dungeons, etc).This is also your chance to record video footage if you think it will be helpful since storage space is basically a non-issue, and you can treat it like a stream or something if it makes you feel better.The abundance of プレイ動画 on youtube/niconico sort of makes the above less vital if your game has that, but certain obscure titles may not have this, so then you're still on your own.
>>12552984>obsessing over pre-teensYou are 100% Indian.
>>12552993Yep, didn't say no. Definitely 12. You're not allowed here, champ
>>12552286tech trannies trying to hide it by projecting really have some weird axe to grind
>>12552991>The abundance of プレイ動画Kill yourself, pretentious retard
>>12553002>it's so easy>turns out it isn't easyI accept your concession.
>>12553010It is easy. Doesn't mean I'm gonna do it. I don't care about this game. If you weren't mentally 12 you would know these two things can be true at once
>>12550000another day another win for the japanese knowers. Enjoy your AI loving bedfellows it smells like curry.
>>12553020bro, you spent years learning a useless language. The only thing you won is the no-sex award
>>12553029It's impossible to learn a useless language, because you have to use it to learn it.
>>12553032my bad, you learned a languge to goon to anime porn and play mediocre video games
>>12553029>learning a useless languagelike I said enjoy your AI translation its just as good as the japanese which is a dry and boring language anyway! What a waste of time google traslate to hindi to spanish to chinese to english is actually so much more soulful.
>>12553034I mean that's probably all YOU'D use it for, but you also lack the ability to actually learn another language. Your limitations aren't universal.
>>12553034>langugeIt's natural you wouldn't want to learn Japanese when you don't even understand basic English spelling
>>12551198Shut the fuck up.>>>/v/
>>12551159who the fuck are those people. lmao
god I miss when we had a janitor
>>12553635Don't know what you got till it's gone
>>12553220bakuru, shina, uriko, Alice
>>12553635>>12553673you mean the tranny who shitpost about chinkhelds all day and deleted on topic threads. fuck off loser.
>>12553115>hurr hurr you misspelled one word gotchasasuga jap retard
>spend 5+ years slaving away in the japanese mines>a year later AI is invented KEKKKKKKKI'd be mad at AI too
>>12553763MTL has existed for more than a decade. It's one of the first professions to embrace "AI" (they called it 'learning machine'). Every single game you see released these days (including indies)? The translation was done through MTL+human proofreading and it's been like this since long before "AI" had become trendy.This is what fan translators don't know or want you to know.
>>12553790The funny thing is this has always been common knowledge but with the proliferation of AI people have become more discerning and are pushing back on all forms of machine translation despite it being around forever.
>>12551143>plebbit wasn't taking your shitlmfao imagine what plebbit thinks is importantyou are a fucking disgrace, kyscofresh, thanks for the translation. never pay attention to these luddite no-ai faggots. they are the useful idiots of blue haired blusky trash
>>12552991>>12552725Interesting, that does make sense. Although the other guy is right that you should be playing the game while reading/translating the script. Almost like a crossword puzzle - you decipher and fill in the blanks as you go along until eventually you have most keywords and names translations memorized and you can get through text much easier already knowing sonny
>>12550000don't look a gift horse in the mouth
