>sells 1 million units and is more successful than the shitty MSX version>to this day it makes Kojima fucking assmad that his shitty pretentious shit didn't sell as much that he continues to say the game is shit even tho it's more balanced and more streamlined than the MSX version>Snake's Revenge gets made and is also a hit and makes Kojima mad that he makes a sequel to try and outsell itWhat a fucking hack LOL
The forest maze is shit but otherwise it's a fine game.I love Snake's Revenge, great game.
>>12550084It also had a better OST. NES soundchip shits all over the MSXhttps://youtu.be/_YudGbScDME?si=ffPeZ9bDU0hLzC15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diTTlYtSKms
>>12550084It amazes me boomers back then as kids actually bought games like this, what fucking 5 year old was actually having fun walking around the game not knowing where the fuck to go or do without guides? How the hell did it sell 1 million?
It's pretty wild that he tricked the world into thinking he was some autuer just so he could lick up Elons sloppy seconds.
>>12550103>It amazes me boomers back then as kids actually bought games like this, what fucking 5 year old was actually having fun walking around the game not knowing where the fuck to go or do without guides? How the hell did it sell 1 million?there was literally nothing else to do back in the 80s
>>12550105MGS4 and shitty games like peacewalker showed me Kojima got by with luck, dude peaked at MGS2
>Game: MSX >:c>Game: NES :O
>>12550103>only 5 years old played NES and only clueless boomers bought NES gamesYour fantasy world isn't reality
>>12550103>walking around the game not knowing where the fuck to go or doIf you don't like this you don't like video games.
WTF is even an MSX? Is that the console that looks like a fucking keyboard? How the hell do you even play that or insert games into it?
>>12550103five year olds didn’t play games, dipshitit’s not like now where every toddler has an ipad and a switchgame systems were mainly for 10+ years old and the best kind of entertainment for kids at the time was literally exploring neighborhoods on their bikesthe joy of exploring and finding your own fun in the mundane was what kids fucking lovedthe games that involved a lot of exploration even without guidance sold well, dipshitwhy do you think zelda was big
>>12550107>>12550115It gets old after awhile when you keep dying and spawn back to the very beginning of the game after 2 hours of exploring
>>12550118Suffering builds character
>>12550116Multiple variations of it. All have some form of joystick or game pad to the right of the keyboard.
>>12550117I remember playing zelda when I was like 7, I didn't know where to go and never even got to the first temple. That shit was boring
>>12550128Why did Kojima want to make games for this failure and not the NES? Did he hate nintendo that much?
>>12550128It also had a cartridge slot for games just like a nesusing it was no rocket sciencebtw I played on it as a 5 year old
>>12550135he was more just upset that Konami ordered a NES port of MG without telling him and he had no involvement in making it
>>12550135The MSX was a lead platform for Konami too
>>12550118Is that why all the daily posters here are miserable and desperate to bait? Pretty shit character.
>>12550134cool, gotta suck to be 15 in this current age
>>12550103IDK about Americans but Japanese kids absolutely loved the whole explore-a-world-and-find-hidden-crap school of game design.
>>12550084Kojima liked Snake's Revenge, at least more than he did the NES port of MG1.
>>12550128Also it had all manner of joysticks and gamepads, you did thave to use the built in controls.Shooters were very popular on MSX so autofire controllers seemed to do well.
>>12550117>five year olds didn’t play games, dipshitlollmao
>>12550084It is better than MGS1 according to Jeff Gerstmann
>>12550109>dude peaked at MGS2Then why is MGS3 the best one
>>1255016990% of 5 year olds with a fresh NES in 1985 had an older sibling that it belonged to, that was the majority market
>>12550172It's not, that's just what retards say cause "OMG YOU CAN PLAY AS SNAKE AGAIN"MGS2 has better graphics and story than 3. 3 is was just a safe bet cash grab for dumb fans and it also ruined the entire series with it's prequel bullshit
>>12550116Zemnix went a step further and consolized the MSX because Korea had a strict import limit on Japanese products.
>>12550172Pretentious faggot, Konami was right, I wish they'd hire him back just so they can fire him again
>>12550141They also couldn't fit the final boss from the MSX game because the ROM size was smaller.
>>12550241>couldn't fit a Metal Gear standing still but could fit a giant computer that is bigger than the metal gearwtf
>>12550176>1985 >NESA few families in NYC you mean? NES was not released nationwide until May-June 1986.Christmas 1985: NYC trst marketFeb 1986: San Diego & Los Angeles trst marketAlso feb 1986: first north american demo of super mario bros at an arcade expo. Around this time it also began to be sold retail in limited markets mentioned aboveMay 1986: Toys R Us and Target receive their first nationwide shipmentsSeptember 1986: the first nintendo commercials air on tv to help build Christmas demandThe vast majoriy of NES consoles were sold christmas 1987-1990. It was a slow start.
>>12550103Kids saw Kyle Reese on the cover and assumed it was the next ContraBut seriously though, in the late 80's it became increasingly common for games to be non-linear. It was the era of Zelda, Castlevania 2,TMNT, and all these other games. Making a game like Metal Gear was such a no-brainer at the time.
>>12550324It also had one of the best comic book game ads of the adds, at a time when cocomics mattered. This ad also ran next to (or on subsequent page) of uktra games TMNT at the hight of turtle mania. They had their target audience locked in.
>>12550340Compared to the famicom ad (which is also cool) but it didnt capture the imagination the way NES ad did.
>>12550176So we moved from "5 year olds didn't play video games" to "5 year olds didn't personally manage the household expenditures"
I put off playing Snake's Revenge because of the bad rep it got after Kojimbo got mad about it... But it's actually better than both MG1 and 2.
>>12550103This is back when they put the guides in Nintendo Power, and the guide for Metal Gear made it seem way cooler than it actually.
>>12550172Because you're part of the hive mind
>it's more balancedNES team were ahead of their time, they reworked death mechanics to allow deathwarps without losing items. And everyone says kojeemer thinks outside the box, heh.Shitposting aside NES version does improve the game with better music variety and new areas, but could've used more polishing.
>>12550678He was shitting on it so people won't play it and see how he ripped off MGS2's tanker chapter.
>>12550681>the guide for Metal Gear made it seem way cooler than it actually.Nintendo power gave it 4 whole pages in the Jan 89 issue, including one page completely taken up by the games cover art and no hints. There was no useful info at all. Marble madness and some pro football game all got like 9 pages each in that same issue and even those were fluff. Nintendo power magazing very rarely had actual guides.
>>12550084>tendie pedo doesn't understand that a game on a more popular console sells moreMSX2 wasn't popular outside Japan, and MG1 wasn't localized outside japan either, and Snake's Revenge being on NES and localized is what made it sell more.It's still non-canon, and lol you fight a computer instead of Metal Gear
>>12550690>Shitposting aside NES version does improve the game with better music variety and new areas, but could've used more polishing.They had only three months to finish it.
>>12550856Kojima's autism aside Konami did want to make some money off the game so a NES port was a perfectly sensible move.
>>12550863it was probably less that than him being miffed that they did the port without telling him first
Reminded that Capcom did the same with DMC2 making it without the original director involvement or notice and look what we got.Snake's Revenge is the same but tendies pretend it's a masterpiece just to spite Kojima
I think they always intended the game for a US release (in spite of the Famicom release coming out first) because it was UNROM and didn't use any of Konami's OC donut steal mappers.
>>12550084too bad this series totally skipped the 16-bit consoles
>>12550675it’s the same fucking statement, parents weren’t buying new consoles for 5 year olds in the 80s, so 5 year olds were not the fucking marketno parent was buying this shit for their little shit that didn’t even know how to tie a shoe yetthey didn’t play video games
>>12550880No one thinks it's a masterpiece but it's also not some unplayable trash 0/10 game that Kojima acts like it is, same with the first one on NES. They are solid fun games
>>12550182And I mean folks... where's the lie?
>>12550856>MSX2 wasn't popular outside Japan, and MG1 wasn't localized outside japan eitherIt was translated into english for a european release. US also got computer ports, for C64 and DOS, based on NES version.
>>12550880Snake's Reverse was made by a different team, some guys worked on the first Castlevania.
>>12550303also Metal Gear (both versions) was 1987, not 1985. I don't know why everybody indulge these retards who can't even take 2 seconds to google before spouting nonsense and let them derail threads.
>>12551393And 1988 for outside japan.
>>12550682HIVE-mind you say?
>>12550103uncs were built different back then
>>12550084I FEEL ASLEEP!
>>12550898Yes they did.
>>12551509>I'M COVERED IN BEEEEEEEEES!
>>12550093That part
>>12550103>Casually admits he's a retard with engagement issues.>Doesn't understand how it could be fun without yellow paint being slapped everywhere.You should have been left in the forest at birth.
>>12550103Why do you zoomers even come to /vr/? Just to ragebait? It seems like you want to like retro games because it's cool but then you get mad because you don't actually like them. Like wtf, close your eyes, walk away from the screen, you can just leave.
