Far and away the best Zelda game and it’s not even close>most heartfelt story>most expressive Link and general art style >soundtrack perfectly captures the feeling of adventure >main method of traversal is novel and fun>great bosses >two versions that offer very different takes on the end game, pick your preference >most advanced combat without leaning into SS’s gimmicks >interesting lore
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>>12597942>most heartfelt storyNah that's TP>main method of traversal is novel and fun>interesting loreOh it's a joke post. What do the people on the Great Sea eat btw?
>>12597942It was so shitty, the next main Zelda was developed, marketed, and praised on the basis that it didn't look as shitty as Wind Waker
>>12597942>/vr/ has now a WW autisti hate this board
>>12597942>5 dungeons and only 2 of them are good>No underwater hyrule exploration
>>12597942The entire Zelda series was phoned in after MM. LttP was the bigger and best product they could've made as a Zelda sequel, LA same thing but for handheld, OoT same thing but for 3D. MM was a small, artistic spinoff. WW was not the biggest and best followup to OoT they could have made. Its style was rightfully relegated to handhelds and produced better games as a result, meanwhile the series floundered with TP and SS for over a decade before they finally gave up and made it open world.Nintendo has never even tried to make a more ultimate game than OoT.
>>12597952They farm and eat land/air animals, retardYou see farm plots and pigs on the very first island Plus I think they get fish back after WW, and by Spirit Tracks you have a pretty fleshed out society
>>12598018YOU are schizophrenic YOU don’t like talking about non-arcade games? Fucking retard
>>12597942>most heartfelt>most expressiveWere you trying to make the game sound as gay as possible?
>>12598161>no no no I simply CANNOT have whimsy and well-intentioned works, I simply NEED grimdark!!! This game was INSULTING after the GRITTY experiences that OOT and MM were!!!>n-no please please forget about the Gorons and rock sirloin and um uhhh please please don’t remember putting the Deku Princess in a bottle!! No please forget about the Clock Town residents getting drunk off milk!! Please!!! Please don’t remember the Business Scrub wanting to go to Great Bay for “not brown beauties”!!! Ack!!! My serious edgy fantasy!!!!
>>12598309nta but do you really have to write like that? it doesn't help your argument
I played WW as an adult and I actually liked it. The combat is smooth, music is awesome, the ocean is the right amount of empty, I loved seeing gray islands on the horizon and slowly getting thereWhat I really cannot stand is that they made Zelda a cheeky bratty pirate girlbossIt doesn't fucking fit
>link's awakening has fishing>OoT has fishing>make zelda game about sailing the high seas>no fishinggay and legitimately retarded
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>>12597942t. First console was a GC
>>12599383no no, ysee, the great sea was too salty to sustain fish life, thats why you cant fishyes theres a red fish in every quadrant of the map but um....SHUT UP
>>12597942>most heartfelt storyMajora's Mask has it easilly beat>most expressive Link and general art styleThis I won't deny>soundtrack perfectly captures the feeling of adventureIt does a good job capturing the seafaring side of things but other Zelda's have just as good if not better soundtracks. >main method of traversal is novel and funIt becomes quite tedious and loses much of its charm in the late game. The great ocean just lacks enough variety to keep it from feeling like a chore.>great bossesI wouldn't even put its bosses in my top 3. TP, MM, and OOT all have better boss fights and that's not considering the non retro games which have even better boss fights too.>two versions that offer very different takes on the end game, pick your preferenceIs... is this really a selling point? Many games have remakes I don't think that makes them better.>most advanced combat without leaning into SS’s gimmicksSorry to say but that's not the highest bar to climb and even then it loses out to BOTW and TOTK>interesting loreIt's certainly better than the standard plot we get in OOT, LTTP, or TOTK but dude it is nothing compared to Awakening or MM.
>>12597952>Nah that's TP Not really
>>12597942I'll agree WW was a step up from what came before
>>12597942It’s my favorite 3D Zelda. It’s so cinematic and has my all-time favorite end credits sequence in gaming. https://youtu.be/_L6r3F9o3WA?si=Ow_RJIMHT6cZ2B3d
>>12598309Wow you sound even gayer than the gay way you first described it. I don't think they other anons were even referring to wanting it being darker, they were calling your faggy way of describing it gay
people who get bored by traveling on the great sea must get bored by walking more than 5 seconds. where's your sense of adventure?>>12597952take your ADHD meds
>>12600629Zelda 1 and 2 had a better sense of adventure.
>>12597945Lol not even one low effort fpbp because this game is a masterpiece. Any fpbp post after this doesn't count, it's too late and you lost and you're a T.
I prefer the more whimsical fantasylike artstyle this game had over the washed out "serious" look Twilight Princess had
>>12600741Twilight Princess was delayed multiple times so Okami and SotC ended up eating its lunch.
>most advanced combatYah bro, pressing A when the button flashes is so hard
The 64 games are far and away the best. You might have a different favourite for various reasons and that's okay, but they're just objectively the best. All 3D Zelda games are great (yes even SS) and do some things really well, but all besides the 64 games just have some fatal flaws that keep them from reaching the greatness of OOT/MM.
>>12601146Idk, I can definitely understand people in 1999 loving Ocarina but bumping off of Majora’s Mask. I was one of them even though I’ve grown to like it more. It’s a considerably different game structure-wise despite reusing a lot of the same assets from OoT.
>>12601197And don’t get me wrong, I like that Nintendo made a very different companion piece to OoT rather than just a retread, but for me, MM falls into the category of games I like the idea of more than I actually enjoy playing.
>>12601197Yeah I can totally understand why some people don't like Majora, it's an adventurous game. But it does what it sets out to do extremely well, even if you don't like what it's doing. That's why I say having something as your favourite isn't really the same as it being the best. I get why WW is people's favourite, it also has a unique charm that it does very well, but it's also just obviously very flawed in a way the N64 games aren't. You don't have to like the N64 games the most, but they are the best.
>>12597942Where to start. The game is called Wind Waker, that's the name of the music item that is used to control the sailing that you do for a large part of the game. When Nintendo remastered it, they implemented the swift sail. Not only does this cut the time spent sailing in half, it also supplants the Wind Waker of its use in sailing too. So we're looking at a flawed concept from inception, if a remaster decides to start gutting core features, and it's portrayed as a positive.You spend a lot of time sailing, pirate themed, so collecting treasure has a big focus right? every chest you pull up is pretty much guaranteed to be rupees. This game introduced massive size wallets to hold thousands of rupees, which is a large step up from the 500 rupees in the previous games. So you're expected to collect a lot of rupees, they are a uniform treasure, you get them sailing, you get them in dungeons, in towns, all over, and they contribute to your collected funds. In the original the point of this was to use them to translate the triforce charts, the second to last progression of the game before going to the final boss. So this is pretty much Wind Waker's best use case of non-linear progression, you find progress to be made all over the game world. The remaster reduces how many rupees would be required in half, and also doubles the amount of rupees that can be carried in each tier of wallet.I could go on and on about this game, but it's clearly a game at odds with itself, and poorly executes everything. The remaster guts features and fans of the game tend to praise it for doing so. It's clear that even among fans, nobody really likes Wind Waker. They like the facsimile of it instead. Have you ever heard anyone talk about how much they love sailing around and exploring islands? that should be a bigger aspect of the game I imagine.
>dude what if we got rid of all the gritty elements that were essential to zelda's aesthetic>dude what if we made the ocean huge and empty with the same repeating blue color throughout>dude what if we got rid of all challenge from every aspect of the game>dude what if we told you how to solve a puzzle in the final dungeon when the solution was a door over>dude what if we got rid of a few dungeons and replaced them with stupid triforce hunt shit>dude what if we had the worst dungeons in 3D zelda>dude what if we tried to give ganon a sympathetic motive at the final battle, never expanded on it and killed him anyway>dude what if we added a multi-weapon mechanic but made it useless since it drops after opening a door and are all shittier than the master sword anyway>dude what if we permanently fucked up the timeline>dude what if we made it so you constantly have to change the wind pattern to even navigate through the shit overworld>dude what if we made it so that the biggest side quest in the game involves a camera with an extremely limited photo inventory>dude what if we copy pasted shitty enemy gauntlets all over the world for padding>dude what if we made the teleporting mechanic limited to a couple squares of the world>dude what if we had the first major area in the game open up with a shitty stealth segment for no reason>dude what if...hear me out...what if we made the players farm for butterfly charms to progress
