Which console had the worst disc drive?The early PS2 models couldn't even read PS1 and blue-bottom CD-based PS2 games consistently, I don't think there's any competition.
What you posted or Original Xbox, because everyone I know had to smack theirs to close it lel, me included.
>>12674884Extending disc trays were undeniably more cool than slots or top down, but less reliable.
>>12674889I actually liked slot-load drives more than drives. It looks more slick to see a disc get sucked into the system.
>>12674891*tray drives
>>12674891That’s fair, I guess I just like how tactile disc trays are. It felt futuristic back then.
>>12674884Besides scam consoles like the Jaguar CD, my vote goes to the PS1 on account of it not mattering if the laser doesn't fail since the rails are 100% going to wear out anyway.Honorable mentions go Sega CD and OG Xbox for having high "random failure" rates that seem to have no specific causes and no ways to repair them. At least with most other consoles you can usually just replace the laser. With Xboxes it's usually a drive board failure and with Sega CD you can't find any replacement parts.
>>12674884Neo-Geo CD, but for popular systems, PS1.
>>12674884Neo Geo CD. It's not even up for debate.
The Dreamcast, despite using a bespoke media format, didn't also engineer a laser that was custom built for that media. It just uses a standard CD laser but with the pots jacked up so they burn out and can struggle with the GD-ROM density.I'm not sure that makes it the worst, per se, but it certainly throws their hat into the ring.
>>12674884OG Xbox DVD drives are so dogshit and vary so much in quality by manufacturer, various speedrun communities around the console have opted to allow for loading games from the HDD (Crash Twinsanity, Metal Arms, SpongeBob BfBB, etc).It's the only console I know of that allows for official runs of games to be submitted like that
>>12674895>>12674897Is there an ODE for Neo Geo CD? I'm sure there is but I'd hate to think how many of them were thrown out in the past due to bad lasers, not knowing that such things would become possible eventually.
>>12674901To be fair that's probably how 99% of Xbox owners play games anyway, so it's still accurate to that console's real experience.I lucked out with a Samsung drive in mine and I'm careful only to use it when absolutely needed.
>>12674904My Xbox's drive is still fine but it's also a 1.6 console.
>>12674901>various speedrun communities around the console have opted to allow for loading games from the HDD (Crash Twinsanity, Metal Arms, SpongeBob BfBB, etc).This only makes sense really, once the xbox accesses the data it becomes cached on one of the cache partitions so repeat access will mean it reads from the hdd first, disc second anyway.
>>12674927>DKruger Up Slope: The Post
>>12674884Worst: BrownStation 1. Dies just existing.Best: The Gayga Shiturn. Built like a tank.
>>12674895>>12674897Imo, the load times are over exaggerated. Unless we are talking failure rate of not even functioning, which i believe the original Japanese model is pretty well known for.
If add-ons count, the JaguarCD by a mile, it's rare to find one that works anymore because it was such a piece of shit that they broke down all the fucking time even in the short time before they became obsolete, much less today. Quite fitting that this thing looked like a toilet.Otherwise that goes to the PS2. Pretty much every unit released in the first few years had a disk drive that would eventually break, the Disk Read Error became infamous back in the mid-00s, I recall websites dedicated to it, the term DRE being synonymous with the PS2, and the lawsuit that happened from Sony refusing to acknowledge or fix it. It was basically on par with the RROD of the 360, I hated how the DRE was instantly forgotten but the RROD never was, both should have been remembered as an example of how shoddy the launch version of those consoles were. If anything, MS actually extended warranties for years without a lawsuit (Though I am sure because of the THREAT of one) and actually attempted (and failed) to repair systems inflicted with it, Sony just basically just blew canned air into the PS2 sent in for repair and hoped that was enough to make it work for another few weeks while doing nothing to attempt to actually fix the fault for existing customers.Yes launch-era PS1s had that problem too, but it was only very early models and could be remedied by... putting the console upside-down. The PS2 problem effected far more people and there was no quick-fix.
>>12674884It's definitely the launch model PS2. Almost all of them stopped being able to consistently read CD-ROMs after about a year of usage.
>>12674884Facts. I ended up having to put two pieces of tape on all of my discs because whatever was supposed to grip the disc before it spins it wasn't making good contact so it would just rev up and scratch around the hole.
>>12677519Don't ever take that tape off.
>>12677526I wasn't planning to. It's been there for about 25 years give or take.
>>12674891After having a Wii eat a disk once and having to perform rocket surgery to get it back out I really don't trust anything without some kind of manual release on it.
>>less reliablecope for messy, poorhouse upbringing where things break a lot because of rough housing with electronics on the floor in a nest of wires and litter
>>12679106Any disc drive that extends is going to be less reliable because the mechanisms will wear down over time. Certainly less reliable than the PS2 slim’s top loading.
>>12679148>reliablereliability itself is a quality assurance statistical abstraction. average consumer will often break delicate electronic parts. it's not an inherent criticism of the product however. it's not my fault you can't keep your electronic motorized parts from snapping, breaking, getting too dirty for delicate action to function, etc.
>>12679148You'd think but the reverse was (mostly) true in this instance. The tray loaders lasted until the belts got hard and shiny so the mechanism stopped working, but if you manhandle it open and closed the drive itself still works. But the top loaders were from Sony's "cheap and shitty" line of laser diodes so even if you hardly use it, they degrade rapidly to the point that even pristine discs don't pass the auth check. Worse, if it's the model with the bad glue on the ribbon cable it can pull up and scrape a circle onto your disc. The 360 circle scraping was at least only caused by tilting the console during operation, you could avoid it by not being an idiot, not so much with the slims, that shit just happens.
>>12677191>load times are over exaggeratedFor what was basically a KoF machine, loading between the rounds is a death sentence
>>12679148>>12679148>PS2 slim's top loadingThanks for reminding me... PS2 slim is the worst by far because as the laser gets into position, the ribbon cable will bend upward and scratch a perfect circle into your disk. I know it's an easy fix with just a piece of tape, but man. If you see a PS2 game with a circular scratch like that you just know it was in a fucking slim model. PS2 is my favorite console which makes that just all the more annoying. Phatboys for life.
PCE-CD seem really crap
>>12674884The only console I own with a faulty disc drive is my PS2 slim.I think the lazer went? But it's not a high priority repair job for me.
>>12679248I bought a used PS2 slim and the disc inside it looks like someone did a Spirograph on it.So it does happen, at least on Slim models
>>12675197he's not wrong, the xbox has three 700M (iirc) cache partitions where games can load whatever they want into them (one per game, whichever is oldest). ever wondered why for example halo2 takes ages to load the first time, then it's fast until you haven't played it for a while (and have played a few other games in the mean time), then it takes forever to load again? it's because it dumps a ton of stuff on the cache partition. if you're speedrunning the game you're probably loading stuff from hdd most of the time anyway since you're playing the same game over and over, never letting the cache get wiped
>>12674884All of em xbox is the winner with its it aets everything like a peeceeh drive
>>12680318Isn't that due to needing capacitor replacements?
>>12674884I'd be willing to bet a full 1/5th of the PS2s ever sold were to repeat buyers because of that shitass disk drive. People shit on 360 and Atari Jaguar for high failure rates, but I only lost 1 360, which I actually bought the day after my second PS2 had failed in the space of two years. The first one made it to '04, but I had to flip the entire console upside down to get it to read PS1/Blue Bottoms from '02-'04, and the second one just refused to read anything after a year.I play PS2 games on a hacked PS3 with Cobra, but if I ever bought another actual PS2, I'd only buy one of the slim models. Seeing the Disc Read Error on a second PS2 that I'd had for less than a year at that point might have actually permanently damaged my trust in the world/faith in humanity.
PlayStation 2 slim models scratched discs. Look it up.
>>12674901Wasn't it just the Thompson ones that were bad news?
>>12677571Dreamcast units are notorious for having overheating issues
>>12674884This thing. I went through 3 of these because the drives broke every 1.2 years.
>>12680658All you have to do is disconnect the internal power supply and take a tooth pick and pull back the power pins
