DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12697429Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source PortsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like patriots ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUPortaDOOM:https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releasesHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===666 Minutes Of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit Removing)Resources & Rules : >>12687710An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : EternityRC2 : https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/d-f/eovr=== NEWS ===[07-23] Tremor, 32map classic Quake campaign, released after 6yr developmenthttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tremor.614/[07-21] Bring Your Own Bottle jam is outhttps://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/bring-your-own-bottle.613/[07-19] Original Hexen Development Files Recoveredhttps://github.com/svkaiser/hexen-development-files[07-17] Mega Man ZDoom is outhttps://mengo329.itch.io/mmzdoom[07-14] Custom 1999 Quake 2 unit 'Deaf, Dumb, and Blind' has been remastered for Q2Rhttps://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/deaf-dumb-and-blind-remastered[07-13] Catbox now purges idle files 2 years or olderhttps://blog.catbox.moe/post/821058172332769280/[07-08] La tailor girl updatedhttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1267215[07-02] persian.wad released (new WAD by Ribbiks)https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159055[07-01] Slipgate Rangers:https://www.moddb.com/mods/slipgate-rangers[06-30] Cherry Doom 2.1.0 releasedhttps://github.com/xemonix0/Cherry-Doom/releases/tag/cherry-doom-2.1.0[06-29] An Eternity of /vr/ released![06-26] Nugget Doom 5.1.0 releasedhttps://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases/tag/nugget-doom-5.1.0[06-26] Doom Universe Installment A - Aerial Lavender releasedhttps://doomer.boards.net/thread/4367[06-18] Divine Twilight Chapter 2 releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/divine-twilight/downloads/divine-twilight-chapter-2[06-19] Bobby Prince has passed awayhttps://x.com/JoeSiegler/status/2067801735075135584=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
pausing the game a lot because I'm writing down notes about things that need fixing
I must get back to work on my 666 minutes map, I have a bit less than 6 hours left.What's some music you're blasting for motivation?https://youtu.be/68U0p4q20wc?si=EJOSyOlyeuo8-t-K
>>12709049>[07-23] Tremor, 32map classic Quake campaign, released after 6yr development>https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tremor.614/>>[07-21] Bring Your Own Bottle jam is out>https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/bring-your-own-bottle.613/finally, something that isn't slaughterslop
Really enjoying this new persian.wadEvery time I start a new map I usually drag brutal doom along with it. I'm not particularly into splatter but the gunplay and the ka-ching of gunmetal is just too good. Can't play regular doom gunplay anymore. I even love the crosshairs. I don't know how much that changes the game and I don't care.Do you have recs for other gameplay mods that I could try? Anything you like. What do you use?
impressive model- and animation work from the Raven boys
>>12709150>latinx baddie going into business for herselfHexen II was ahead of its time. Glad Portal of Praevus expounded on the number of sluts (positive) in the game, even if both classes were kind of shit.
hexen ii also has hot guys
It's Thursday boys. You got a game lined up for the weekend? I was gonna try out Descent for the first time.
>>12709310System shock Also trying for the first time
>> 666 minutes of /vr/ <<>Latest resource (100M)https://gitgud.io/-/project/49137/uploads/e1301ffb5dc060a22efda83ddd805a7e/666vr-res-stowaway.zipLots of new textures and flats by GuyWithTeaCup (lump names start with CONC), purple sky.>Latest build (9.0M)https://gitgud.io/-/project/49137/uploads/ba1fbc2f4a33691598a4927852489f86/666vr-stowaway.zipNew maps to playtest: "Tethys Anomaly", "Tertiary Dentin", "Caverns of Saturn"!>Git repohttps://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/Switched from deutex to doommake yesterday.I believe two more maps are in progress right now.We also need:>Intermission graphic/midi>Title graphic/midi>F1 graphic>StoryOriginal post: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/12686120/#q12687710>>12709046
>>12709345It's been a little bit, but I really enjoyed the enhanced edition. Been meaning to peruse alternate source ports to see if they do something better.
>>12709310Playing through either modded Eviternity or modded Doom 3 if I don’t get hooked by f2p space ninja sloppa.
>>12709305I won't watch him, I just keep seeing his videos pop up on Youtube because I watched him once, and his thumbnails are really funny.
>>12709365What options are out there and their pros and cons?
>>12709075Is this an homage to Archi-Pelago?
>>12709359>We also need:>StoryWould one of the English majors or wannabe writers please write several pages of contrived story for the text file like Plutonia 2 has?
>>12709371I found one called Shockolate. Same as Chocolate Doom's goals of authenticity to the original experience, so all the pros and cons of that in the eyes of the beholder. A con I'd say is that it seems abandoned in 2019. Haven't gotten the chance to mess around with it myself yet.github.com/Interrupt/systemshock/releases/tag/v0.7.7
>>12709379more The Living End than anything else
>The Mt Pain Sunder episodeHoly shit it's so pretentious. Why do all Doom wad reviews turn into this eventually, with overly flowery language like they're college students discussing an obscure art movie?
>>12709515(you) already did this shtick like 10 days ago, fatass. Give it a rest. Go bitch about Quake instead.
>TremorOooh, interesting. I'm worried about that "modern design" comment, since Slipseer are stuck on making maps that play like modern attempts at retro shooters, but it'll still be Quake nonetheless.
>>12709520>Posts I don't like are all one guy!I'm not surprised others have said it, I usually like his reviews but fuck me it's Doom, not some obscure painting by a depressed Belgian. You don't need to break out the turtleneck sweaters and oversized wine glasses for this.
>>12709515>some literally who YouTuber said thing I don't like, validate my dislike!
>>12709359I could maybe look at an M_DOOM graphic. Does it need that much of a story though? Some decent flavor text can't hurt, but if you think it's important, you should try to write it yourself.
>>12709521The “best stuff” I’ve played from there has played similarly to AD, so maybe that’s the “modern design” sentiment their following unless AD falls in that camp for you as well.
>>12709527Okay then. Quit bitching about youtubers here than you denthead.
>>12709537Yeah I just meant some intermission text. Although looking at other *minvr.wads they had a little or none at all
>>12709542Hey, if it ends up playing like AD it'll be great. I'm holding off until the weekend when I have some free time anyway.
>>12709548>Yeah I just meant some intermission text.That'd be pretty easy. You're constricted on how much text you can put in, so it'd be just basic flavor texts.
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>>12709167>even if both classes were kind of shitWere they? I've only played through the first hub so far, with two of the four basegame characters more or less in parallel, and between the Assassin and the Paladin, I thought the Assassin was the more interesting one as well as more fun to play. Though that may be because she gets a ranged weapon sooner.
>>12709515I mean yeah that's just MtPain27. I like him a lot but it's still painful to get through some of his reviews. In a way, he's not ashamed to be cringe, and that's alright.
>>12709540>cyberdemon problems>40iq projectile thinking>modern gay guns>bullshit autoaim
>>12709128https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3dRHNn0s3Q&list=OLAK5uy_khD_DpWuA02THvNT8hCN7R4SrWpuF6azk&index=2
Some of Walpurgis' brightmaps are fucky. What would cause this? Even weirder is it's mostly only on the ready states. Though none of the Lightbringer's work at all.
>>12709139>Infinite REKKRsion
>>12709679>modern gay guns
>>12709128https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyHmeQWek1I
>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<Record a UV Max demo of Congestion 1024, Map 32 "Nullspace Junior" by Russell Pearson -cl 9Reply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download & records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/1024?level=Map+32Example demo in 5:13https://files.catbox.moe/dvet6f.lmpPrevious challenge winner: Zone 300, Map 12 UV-max in 1:53! >>12687745Almost forgot again this thread. I like this map because it stands out among 1024 maps for using a lot of custom textures and actually looking good. >>12709046
>>12709515I think mtpain27 can get a bit carried away with how he describes maps, but you don't know real pretentious reviews until you've browsed shit like rym or metallum.
Marisa did nothing wrong.
You guys ever go out and look at nature before making a map?
>>12709695Oh, I see. It was because the brightmaps weren't the same size as the sprites. No idea why the Lightbringer's aren't working though. Those seem to match.
>>12709829In response to pic, having autism but not *that* kind of autism (I'm reminded of him describing the differences between Wolf3D and Doom as the "delta" now) is basically the closest thing to being cursed by God at birth. Literally idiot savant.Anyway I just think of other maps that look cool and I'm often on the road for my job which has its consequences but the cool shit I do get to see is often inspiring.
>>12709829Not just at nature, I look up interesting places wherever I go for inspiration.Speaking about pic, it reminds me of that one anon that was talking about how particular Carmack is about the game setup and how it is supposed to look and on what kind of display.
>>12709829I occasionally take pictures of things in nature, or urban/industrial things, for later inspiration.
>>12709515I think slaughter attracts this sort of audience. Not saying it's unfun - just that there is a special kind of autistic (potentially trans) person that consumes slaughter like it's the most amazing thing ever. They don't really want written story or anything experimental. It's chasing a high/feeling - pleasures of the flesh vs pleasures of the mind. I think this could be why the other older fps games didn't attract the same audience that Doom did despite modding tools being readily available.
Nightdive DOOM with "classic" resolution and 4:3, looks identical to the DOS one. Is there any benefit running the og DOS one at this point?
>>12709906>DOSThere already weren't a lot of reasons to use the DOS version when Chocolate Doom exists>Is there any benefit The Chocolate Doom experience will be closer to the original, including the original FPS cap and menusWhat you're doing is making Nightdive Doom look more like the original, but it's still not as close to the original as Chocolate which is made to be as DOS-like as possible in every way
>>12709906>Is there any benefit running the og DOS one at this point?At the very least for playtesting vanilla maps
>>12709075btw a good opportunity to use infinite horizon nodebuilder effect in here (special 1080 sector tag 180)
Beat doom mod there is.
>>12709049>[07-19] Original Hexen Development Files RecoveredAnyone know if any of the dev files contain sprites & textures from Hexen's development?
>>12709046Got a suggestion to add to the launchers/frontends"Just launch doom" available herehttps://www.mtmckenna.com/just_launch_doom/
>>12709046anons i'm trying to remember a gameplay wad i played a few years back, TLDR it was similar to doom RPG/lithium with RPG elements, extra new monsters and a shop to buy weapons/upgradesit was cryptid doom? something 32? cryptic? i cannot remember.
>>12710029I think DoomRunner is better
Master Levels sux and Black Tower is fucking horseshit level design and a slog.
>>12709823>areyousureaboutthat.gif
>>12709990>unironic brutal doom shillingHoly fuck /vr/ is dead.
>>12709990>black edition
>>12710084The fuck is wrong with it? I was blown away by how good it is. It's better than most modern games these days. Whoever made it is an artiste.
>>12710090I can't tell if he's serious and that's very concerning.
>>12710085I've never played it. What's the deal with it?
>>12710127Doomguy is BLAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!!!!!!1!
>>12710032anon here, i found it, https://github.com/Doruk-Aksoy/DnD
>>12709359For plot, maybe something can be pieced together after all maps are submitted and done. Like just look at what we've got overall and draft out a concept from that.>>12709990What makes it better than normal Doodle Broom?>>12710084You haven't been here in a long time probably. BD was never everyone's darling here, but it hasn't been unusual for people to say that they quite enjoy some version or variant of it or other.
>>12710152Also, this doesn't seem to work with UZdoom, it's seemingly not wanting to cooperate. any idea why?
>>12710287Seems to be a Zandronum mod. Which most likely means it's using Zandronum exclusive features.BYOC is the same way.
I'm frustrated but I'm also having fun
>>12709829Not intentionally, and there's too little resources to make proper "nature" maps beyond "overgrown structures" and such, also I let nature be nature.However, one particular vista really got my noggin joggin - I was driving along a highway and there are those lush green hills and right in the middle this huge concrete factory. It looked like a literal tumor, and I got that idea of putting some bigass threatening, evil megastructure right in the middle of an innocent bystander hill or something.Never made it into a map the way I originally envisioned it though.
>>12710332>and there's too little resources to make proper "nature" maps beyond "overgrown structures" and suchIsn't there a fair bit of grass and dirt textures, and also bush and tree sprites?
Nature outdoor maps will never work in idtech1. It has been tried over and over for 3 decades. Shit just ain't it dawg.
>>12710470grove.wad
>>12710472I liked a lot of Lost Civ's outdoor areas, too
>>12710472>bprd>good
>>12710475yes
>>12709975I can't seem to get this to workIf I use line type 1086 and then run elfbsp on it that does do something (creates a hall-of-mirrors), so I might just be doing something wrong. Do you have an example?
>>12710493elfbsp -t 0 wad.wad(i forgot you need that parameter, effects don't work with format it uses by default)https://litter.catbox.moe/xq4mq173hzfrvs7i.wadMAP01 is simply assigning the special to the outer walls (bad because you can see the wall in the distance)MAP02 is also adding the outer rim (i recommend doing it like that)
>>12710470when them demons crysunless empire (maps 2,5,9)narcoleptic strata (joe-ilya's map in particular)
>>12710534Hmmm... nyo.
>>12709540>doomguy straight coded>id died>retarded zdoom>merge meant faggot together>versions female destroyed
>>12710470Emerald city is fire.
>>12710502Ah thanks. It's actually my old dsda-doom version which doesn't support this, if I use a more recent version it works.
>>12709146Project Deadbolt is a good gameplay mod that is built on idea of powerful weaponry but with low ammo supplies.In terms of Brutal Doom type of mods, I prefer Brutal Pack to Brutal Doom.
This dink smallwood japanese midi pack has a bunch of lit midis never once used in doom. Maybe we can pick smth for intermission/title from there?https://www.dinknetwork.com/file/japanese_midi_pack/
>>12710574I'd use Pigs.mid along with some vapourwaveish background featuring palms for intermission
>>12710470Lainos does it well enough in his maps.
>>12710475Yes.>>12710574Always on the prowl for more MIDI, so I'll check that one out regardless.
>>12710570Is it true that BD uses real gore for the gorey sprites? I've never tried it because that's fucking gross and distasteful
>>12710610All video game gore uses real gore as a base, at least most of it anyway
>>12710226Graphics are revamped, looks great, music is new, more options and ways to kill enemies, more animations of enemies making them more active and difficult to kill, tons of graphical and gameplay additions that make it more immeraive, better guns. It's seriously epic. It's better than any of the modern doom games.
>>12709146>Do you have recs for other gameplay mods that I could try? Anything you like. What do you use?Babel's my favorite, always will be. Even when I binge into other mods, it's always at the top.>>12710226>BD was never everyone's darling here, but it hasn't been unusual for people to say that they quite enjoy some version or variant of it or other.For me it always came back to its fanatics insisting its the only mod to use, and those few have really died off from here the last several years.
>>12710610That was something Mark announced as a cool coming new feature at some point very long ago, but then took back after a lot of people went "What the fuck?"There's supposed to exist a realgore patch or something, but I don't know if that's actually true, and I don't think Mark made it.>>12710612No, they don't, it's actually pretty rare for that to be the case.Someone discovering that one of the corpse models for Half-Life 2 used a photo of an actual burned corpse from a medical textbook for its face texture caused a stir because that's unusual.Look at someone like Adrian Carmack's work, that guy's an actual gorehound, he worked at a hospital photocopying nasty medical photos and made extra copies for himself to show to likeminded friends. Still, he didn't use any of that in any of his games at all, rather he just drew, painted, and modeled gore from scratch.
>>12710639>Someone discovering that one of the corpse models for Half-Life 2 used a photo of an actual burned corpse from a medical textbook for its face texture caused a stir because that's unusual.Better get that medical textbook pulled from sale.
>>12710671You're being obtuse.
>>12710701part 2 since it didn't fit in one webm todayStill a bit over an hour left, main thing I still need to do is implement HMP/HNTR and a bunch of testing.
>>12710084>>12710226Brutal Doom Monsters Only + Your choice of weapon modIs the literal peak of modded doom. Vanilla is its own beast and is more balanced. But no modder has ever touched the sheer absolute fun of brutal doom. I also enjoy how much the dev made everybody cope and seethe. I remember when one of the early versions used actual pictures of real life gore for sprites, it was so fucking based. Reminded me of goregrind album covers.
>>12709515I like his videos, it feels like an actual show and it's just nice to have a show for my niche special interest. He can say some things that are a little eye-rolling here and there but even then I appreciate the sincerity in an age of meta irony-poison.
>>12710612"As base" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there because I can't actually say you're wrong for certain depending on what you even mean.However, almost no one is going to be using real gore like how id digitized the monsters or how people use photos as a base for texture work. The artist might have learned how things look from studying real gore at some point, but only senseless idiots are scanning in or tracing over real gore to put in their game.
>>12710709>Brutal Doom Monsters OnlyYou mean Project Brutality? I don't think the BD monsters are that much more different from the vanilla ones
Still no mickey mouse or disney mod, i wonder why doom modders are such mutt corporate shills.>something from japan game : let's port it to doom.>something from murrican culture : god no think on the copyright we can't do something in mickey style or old toons style because we would violate copyright.
>>12710751That reminds me of how there's a ton of sound replacement wads from way back that aren't hosted on doomworld because of some copyright bullshit...but then they do host the fucking Simpsons Doom so go figure
>>12710751>No one in the doom community actually gives that much of a shit about disney. At least not in that way.>Even if it's a small change, they have shown a willingness to do legal bullshit towards a project. Do you wanna spend a year+ working on something that a lawyer can shut down just to justify their budget?If your aim was to try and goad someone into doing it, try being less of a faggot.
>>12710751Not what you wanted per se, but BYOC has a shitpost King Magnifico class.
>>12710751Anon, you're really retarded.
>>12710796>>12710765>samefag.So no argument besides still licking corporate balls as good sheep faggots you are don't.
>>12710751Most western modders are corporate shills so as long make them look good with companies they won't dare to touch something.>guy makes doom mickey game since copyright expired.>still licks disney balls with "this isn't mickey".>packs gzdoom game under unreal to avoid people taking assets for other mods.
>>12710808not caring about that manchild shit is a valid argument that was presented in the second post you quoted
>>12710808>>12710813>accuses two different people of samefagging>samefags his own post, not even bothering to change his typing styleThat gave me a chuckle
>>12710085
>>12710751>>something from japan game : let's port it to doom.>>something from murrican culture : god no think on the copyright we can't do something in mickey style or old toons style because we would violate copyright.Retard we literally have notorious mods based on Batman, Star Wars, Simpsons, Ghostbusters, Terminator, Alien and others that were even covered by game journos Even with UK you had like two unfinished Judge Dredd mods and Ashes 2036 had other 2000AD refs
>>12709049>TremorSo far so good, although it is exactly what it says on the tin and is just Quake 1's campaign but slightly harder and with new maps. The maps still follow the same pattern as base Quake 1>Map 2 ending on a fiend fight in a courtyard>Map 3 introducing zombies and the grenade launcher with a shambler fight at the end and so onI loved the Half-Life rocket launch map 1 gets you to do.
>>12710808Nah, just too busy making bondage creatures with pilebunkers for heads to want to bother with making something for people who apparently more Disney in their life but can't afford to go to Disney World anymore.
>>12710891It's basically Quake The Way id Did
wats a good wad for me 2 play???
>>12710914DOOM2.WAD
>>12710914Thief Gold.
>>12710914The Thing you can't Defeat.
>>12710947I don't remember that one
>>12709046>deus ex game features ported to doom.>community takes it down with "muuhh copyright violation"All the time don't.
>>12710979When are you going to sleep, ESLtard?
Does anybody remember a Duke Nukem 3D mod that took a lot after Metal Gear Solid? I remember being able to break people's necks from the back, the starter pistol being a SOCOM, and being impressed by doors that used animated textures instead of sectors.
I could use some ZScript help. Dodopod's climb code works great on 99% of things, but in Walpurgis, the Druid's Warg and Dryad forms have a transformation sequence in the Select state before going into Ready. So if you climb while using those, you transform again.I tried commenting out that GetDownState line and changing GetUp to GetReady and that "works" in the way that it doesn't make me go through the sequence again. Though the lowering is kinda jerky, and other weapons aren't lowering. If I could just limit that behavior to when I'm using those weapons, that'd be good enough.I want to make it check for using the weapons DogMode, DryadMode, or having the inventory items DogInHand or DryadInHand, whichever works better. Dunno how to do that. I think adding && after the climbing and not!climbing ifs? But I'm blanking on the rest.
>>12710751Alien, Predator, Terminator, Star Wars and even Hellraiser and Simpsons belong to Disney now and there are plenty of wads with those themes. Or do you want some gayer Disney property like wad with Cinderella, Frozen or Snow White theme? Even the discord troons are not gay enough to make those. Nobody in the whole Doom community is close of the absurdly high levels of gayness that only you can achieve. So you looks like you need to make your Disney princess wads yourself, homo faggot.
>>12711025Maybe he's trying to introduce his kid to Doom, in which case Chex Quest is a thing.
>>12710751Disney is an overrated soulless corporation that stopped being good over half a centuray ago, so making an explicit Disney mod might as well be jerking them off.Maybe "animation enthusiasts" should watch something good like Heavy Metal, anything Bakshi, Aeon Flux etc the actual good examples of "animation is cinema".You shouldn't have to be a John K defending Spumguy to know this.Also the modern Doom games already attracted enough Disney Adults.Also, most stuff that tries to mimick old cartoons fails because it just copies surface elements and doesn't put that much effort into making the animation good, while also being too reference based.We just had an indie FPS games with basic cartoon references (Mouse PI).Cuphead worked because it did an impressive job at mimicking the cartoons (Traditional drawings even), while also having its own identity.Similar to how plenty of game series, Doom and co included, are a result of devs copying movies and stuff they liked but still giving these games their own identities.Sure Duke and the others were full of references to 80's movies but they also felt specific and kinda novel while the games still had some atmosphere for you to enjoy while playing.
>>12710751(You) could have just asked if there are mods based on Western IPs, Anon. This isn't /v/.
>>12710751because anything disney related is gay and retarded just like yourself
>>12709049For 666 minutes of /vr/https://files.catbox.moe/1ssu0q.wadName: Occupied OasisAuthor: Hand-peeledMidi: BLOOD12 from Blood PrototypeStill have around 40 minutes left.
>>12711019So the weapon's forced into the lowered state to both lower it and to prevent attacking, right?I guess you could keep the weapon in ready state and only force the lowered position, and handle disabling the attack via a variable instead.You could set the variable in the code that handles climbing, then override the player's CheckWeaponFire function to check that variable before allowing firing. The downside is that none of the characters will play their weapon drawing animations for any of their weapons when they finish climbing.
>>12710718>but only senseless idiots are scanning in or tracing over real gore to put in their gameIt seems I am a senseless idiot. What's wrong with it?
>>12711124All of the gruesome textures/sprites in the IWADs were either handmade or photos of something else that were tweaked to resemble flesh (pic related), so outsourcing Liveleak cartel footage just seems artless to me.
>>12711137Oh, I thought it was a moral type of problem. Like, I can only see this being bad this way in eyes of someone because it is akin to using intimate photos of a person without their consent. If I HAD to argue it's morally bad, then this is the argument I came up with.
>>12711137>artlessNever heard of a collage before?
Instead of crying about Mickey Mouse not having a mod, a time would've been better spent if discussed how underwhelming Fist of the North Star mod is. Midi is awesome but instead of having a fuckton of secret martial arts moves and focus on melee combat you have throwable batons.
>>12711163It's an old mod. If memory serves right it's just vanilla doom with a HNK reskin.
>>12711163Oh wow, I remembered it better than it is. Batons aren't throwable, it is a hitscan weapon just as your kicks which can kill enemies from unlimited range because they are actually a shotgun.https://youtu.be/51clgUnx3zA?si=L-Tj-v4tuMXLOumV>>12711167Yes, it is just a vanilla reskin. But damn, it was such a letdown after I finished the manga and decided to check if there is a mod about HNK.There are probably no target audience present for such mod, only I am, but I feel like if I will not make it, then nobody ever will. This thing is living in my head rent free for two months now, sorry for obsessing over this all out of a sudden.
>>12711183Well the art assets are there. It'd just need to be remade with actual unique mechanics and shit. Though you'd still need ranged weapons or some way to pull enemies towards you.
>>12710748https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/bdv21-monsters-only-versionThis has the gore and the more aggressive monsters of Brutal Doom, except now you dont have to be stuck with the dumb sprites and weapons of brutal doom. So combine with a beefy gun wad (ive been using Naka Naru https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=65276)the monsters are hard as fuck I usually play on the lowest difficulty lol
>>12711206I think short slow motion as a mechanic to simulate Kenshiro's fast reaction and making barrels throwable would be enough. If not, then boomerangs should do the work.
>>12711225There's some maps that pit you against a lot of ranged targets with no barrels, you'd be fucked and would have to run away.
>>12711114I can't just add a && "using X weapon || Y weapon" or "having X || Y in inventory" after the if (climbing) with the edits I mentioned and then have the Else be the normal climbing behavior?>>12711163Lt. Typhon is the best Hokuto Shinken mod.
>>12710751Kill yourself.>>12710761I believe they go by the notion on if stuff is transformative or not. There's shitloads of old .wads which are nothing at all but replacement sounds that are soundbytes from movies and TV (and many overlapping variants of sets), and they were kept off back in the day for a mix of caution and not being considered worth it.
>>12710813Maybe nobody wants to make a fucking Mickey Mouse mod? Even in Europe, where a lot of people actually give more of a fuck about classic Disney characters, people don't care that much about Mickey Mouse, and if we were gonna do anything of the sort, it'd be a mod for Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge. Not that Doom's inherent violence and gore makes it readily suitable for those themes, young Uncle Scrooge was a tough cunt, but he never punched anyone so hard their body exploded into giblets. You could work around and change stuff like that, but it'd beg into question why to use Doom for something like this.
>>12711137That texture was outright hand drawn with pencil on paper by Adrian Carmack (he did a number of textures that way), you can find pics of the drawing itself around.>>12711150>If I HAD to argue it's morally bad, then this is the argument I came up with.People will argue that, and I don't think it's an unreasonable position in any culture where there already is a mentality of having some sort of respect and reverence for the dead.Personally, I think that just taking such content and slapping it in your entertainment, while cheap and artless as said (look at Adrian's illustrated gore, it's masterful and worth striving for), is also just going to be difficult to morally justify.People will reasonably take issue with it, because that was once a person and they are generally supposed to be owed some sort of 'peace of the grave,' where extending that to evidence of their last moments and remains isn't a leap.Looking at something like LiveLeak, that can also be looked at as violating that, but that sort of place also fulfills a greater purpose than just for sickos to oggle at death. You could have just crafted fictive gore for your entertainment work, but places like LiveLeak maintain hard evidence of very real tragedy and atrocity, which have some level of importance for truth and history (and is also a useful resource for preparing burgeoning medical workers and first responders to the grotesque that they will inevitably have to see IRL for their line of work).
As another artistic reason, real life gore is often not as dramatic and 'visually impressive' as fictional gore is usually stylized as. The sheer volume and energy you tend to see in fictional sprays and spurts of blood isn't always reflected in reality (in fact, it usually isn't), so it's not as interesting or cool. Dramatic and exaggerated is better for entertainment than real and clinical gore on that point.
>>12709046>https://clovr.xyz/wadsup/IT'S MOVED TO:wadsup.xyz
>>12711328>That texture was outright hand drawn with pencil on paper by Adrian Carmack (he did a number of textures that way), you can find pics of the drawing itself around.Good to know, it always looked like octopus pieces to me.
>>12711221I recommend some of LossForWords' mods to play with BD monsters, like Act of Violence, Omerta, Postal: Running With Chainsaws, or Disaster Jester: Classified, because BD compatibility is baked right into those. Like if you want shotguns to send enemies back like in BD. I don't remember if Naku-Naru does that. I know I did it in mine.
>>12711124This anon >>12711328 has already hit the most relevant moral points and with Doom itself the original artists already went about it in what most would consider the best way, both artistically and morally speaking. Then you start getting into the more fantastical stuff and it gets even more distasteful. It's hard to imagine that using images of someone's remains/gore as, for example, the image for a demon getting blasted by a plasma gun is anything but disrespectful.>>12711338This too. If you look at most of the monster deaths in Doom, they're way more dramatic and exaggerated than anything you'd see in real life.
>>12711254Oh shit I'm fucking dumb. CountInv. That was the thing I was blanking on. It was right there. I think I have it working now.
>>12711084Nice, added https://litter.catbox.moe/ugjf0cvfb6r8534a.wad
>>12709359Just noticed I had broken animated flats in this resource. I needed to put them into animflats.wad that doommake provides so they land in the correct order in the final wadFixed resource: https://litter.catbox.moe/7k9ghzi1o0xrschw.wadFixed build: https://litter.catbox.moe/ou2rtsrhgf64pa43.wad
>>12711461Actually no I don't, because it's not checking my inventory for the things.
>>12709046lol nice thread promo OP
I'm old. Doom is the first game I bought on my first PCGot a VR headset last year, every single Doom mod or wad has worked perfectly on GZDoomVR. Its the only way I play anymore.Pulling the trigger on the motion controller for the supershotgun is very satisfying https://github.com/hh79/gzdoomvr/releases
>>12711530>I'm old.Don'tmakeaDeltarunereferencedon'tmakeaDeltarunereferencedon'tmakeaDeltarunereferencedon'tdoitdon'tdoitdon'tdoitdon'tdon'tdon't-- AY, NEED A HAND, I AM MOTHERFUCKING GERSON BOOM!!!!!
>>12711525why is your font so dark jeez
>>12711668It's way brighter than I had it before.
>>12711651What is this gibberish?
>>12709682how does this furry animal cylinder locomote?
>>12711684There's an old man character in a recent game that proclaims he's old. That's pretty much it.That Anon just can't control himself.
>>12711221You'll enjoy thishttps://mega.nz/file/HIciUQIL#8cvGv6ZmqnUtCHe7IrYYXOjn8mURr5z4P9UosDOXNkYProject Brutality enemies.
>>12711689I tried, but it was like Roger Rabbit hearing the first few notes of Shave and a Haircut! I could only resist for so long!
>>12711228
>>12709049>[07-21] Bring Your Own Bottle jam is outthis isn't particularly good
>>12711752Tell us more about it.
>>12711260>here's shitloads of old .wads which are nothing at all but replacement sounds that are soundbytes from movies and TV (and many overlapping variants of sets), and they were kept off back in the day for a mix of caution and not being considered worth it.Well the good news is that I've found all of the ones I used to have way back save one, which I don't recall being a Beavis & Butt-Head themed one specifically but it did have Butt-Head saying "this kicks ass" as the weapon pickup sound but that's not a whole lot to go on.
>>12711787It's just a collection of small gimmick/joke maps with some user made textures as the core concept. There are multiple maps with zero enemies. Some of the maps that resemble a normal quake map indulge heavily into the nudoom arena layout.There's even an in game statue to layoffs at nu-id as if anyone still working there has ever had anything to do with the 90s iD.
Helion 1.0 is out.https://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/tag/1.0.0.0Perfomance-optimised Doom source port.
>>12711803Don't forget to reply to the news post to submit news:>>12709049
>>12711803Fckn nice.So since it's called 1.0 now I'm going to assume it has near perfect vanilla/boom/21 support and the only reason to use any other port now is extra fluff like nugget gibbs or dsda speedrooners stuff? Like, if a person just wants to play Doom wads, there's not a single reason to pick anything else when it offers the same compatibility but with like x10 or what performance.
>>12711797Wasn't Donna laid off?
Do we have a deadline on 666 minutes?
>>12711956Yes, September 1after that mb a week of testing then i shove it on idgames and doomworld
Is alpha incident considered good? I am somewhat apprehensive of the fact that the second stage I am shotgunning 200+ enemies in a really mazy and hard to traverse techbase, and it doesn't seem like it's getting better deeper in.
>>12712032I enjoyed it.
Noodling away at a 666 M_DOOM currently, will show a WIP later.
>>12711803Based, I love dotnet
>>12710701>>12710707This is cool. Makes me wish I would have been a part of the map making scene.
>>12712048It's not hard to begin, programs like Ultimate Doom Builder are really easy to learn and use.
>>12712049I'm sure that's true. But it's like... I wish I had been one of the mappers since the beginning, you know? I did play with map makers over the years, even made a couple for Descent 2 and a couple others, but I never got so serious about it like I should have.
rough preliminary M_DOOMthoughts?
>>12712085color choice is terrible
>>12712104why
>>12712085awewesome
>>12712085Lookin good, doc
>>12712107bad color combination>>12712108oh wow, with orange in it it's even more terrible.
>>12712117Very unfinished, mind.>>12712123What are you talking about? It's the best combination of colors ever.
>>12712123>with orange in it it's even more terribleIronically it probably would be better WITH orange.As in orange outlines.
>>12712135hazard strip outline maybe?
>>12712032Yea it's good, but it's also quite different than what you would expect from 10s wad. The mapper is a russian legend who's style is mainly vanilla. Alpha Accident takes lot from E1 and alpha versions as the name implies. The difficulty comes not from slaughter but exactly from big, mazy techbases. Mazier and bigger the maps get the further you progress, so if you don't enjoy it now, it might not be your cup of tea.
>>12711797Maybe this is just due to being someone who's had to make at least a few textures for every map they've made, but it seems odd that people have decided that means they should just leave out enemies.
>>12709139>on the interwebs, nobody knows you're John Romero
>>12709139How is blackrooms shaping up?
>>12712085Should have stronger and more vivid greens and purples, those are too muted and murky.>>12712104It's healthy for you.
>>12712135How about coloring the metal all orange, and then filling in the centers with some kind of black techy stuff?
>>12711525Okay, now this is working. I was getting the number and placement of brackets wrong last night.
>>12711752At least Tremor is alright. It's no Alkaline, but it's more Quake.
>>12712171Those same people have had multiple jams specifically for walking around boring artfag maps without enemies, so you'd think they'd wait for another one of those before engaging in such faggotry. I'm sure you'll find screenshots of those maps on their Art Stations with them begging to be hired as a game dev. None of them actually care about Quake itself.
congestion 1024 map 23 is probably the worst map I've ever had the displeasure of playing
GOOD AFTERNOON MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time post that shit!
>>12712395That's been a problem ever since the sheep and his annoying friends took over the Quake community. They just want gamedev jobs and think making shitty modern FPS maps in Quake will get senpai to notice them.
>>12712429Been doodling some aquatic plants and a rock texture in Krita.Quake 2 palette.
>>12712429Some attempts at HUD elements. Bigger icons would be used for a cleaner, less text-heavy HUD.
>>12712395>None of them actually care about Quake itself.It seems strange to think that people working in an old ass engine for a 30 year old game don't care about it. If the maps suck then they suck, doesn't have to be some kind of purity test.
>>12709515I'm not surprised at his glazing of Sunder, which is in line with post-2020 popular opinion, but I didn't expect it to start as early as map 03. It's also amusing how he absolutely roasted Deus Vult and criticized its excessive scale and grindy fights but gave Sunder a pass despite the similarities.
>>12712498I like the big ass bars. So what's this for?
>>12712583Halo, Marathon and Coded Arms put into a blender and seasoned with some religious psychosis.
>>12712601Sick.
>>12711343
>>12710914Doomguy's pimp ventures.
That FPS documentary is free on tubi right now.
>>12712620Read ventures as Ventura, and it made me imagine either Jim Carrey or Jesse Ventura as a pimp Doomguy.
>>12712494Good texture & sprites anon.
Anyone got more stuff in the vein of Descent?I'll even take community levels or mods for Overload.
>>12711752I'm sure you're wrong and are just mentally deficient. >Tremor releasedWtf. Finally.
>>12712618>>12711343is this from star trek? I never watched that but looks kino
>>12712395>I'm sure you'll find screenshots of those maps on their Art Stations with them begging to be hired as a game dev. None of them actually care about Quake itself.You are not healthy
>>127097687:57 https://litter.catbox.moe/rinlsrk9fwnd6t73.lmpfirst time i reached the exit. it's kinda fun after you get to the viles but the beginning sucks imp balls
>>12711803I can't be fucked to compile dotnet from source but their loonix build is stuck at this screen for me
>>12709768Oh wow. I remember playing this map ages ago. It comes up in my mind every now and then but couldn't remember what it was from. Thanks
>>12712968It's from star trek, but the helmet itself is a toy they sold in the 70s that has nothing to do with the show. They just labeled it "Spock".It's a good show you should watch it.
>>12712968Growing up with Next Generation reruns on TV in the 2000s, which I largely enjoyed, I wasn't sure that I was going to like the original series given the impressions I'd been given about it over prior years, but deciding to watch it around its 50th anniversary, I actually quite liked it, it was fun and I found the story and characters engaging.It's more campy than TNG, but it's not a non-serious show, just kinda spaced out and weird, in fun ways. Having always liked Jean-Luc Picard's personality and no-bullshit attitude, I was expecting something much more different with James T. Kirk, in part because that's the impression which William Shatner himself will give you about the character and series in later years, but he's not the unserious womanizer popular conception actually has him as, he's pretty much just as no-bullshit as Picard is, maybe even more so, and it's more the circumstances around him having weirdness and camp.Sometimes, they encounter something outlandish and kind of silly, but they still have to deal with it somehow.
>>12711803So is this actually vanilla-accurate to the same extent something like dsdadoom is?
It's been over a year since the Infinite Doom devs dropped their "we aren't dead guy's, honest" post
>>12712494Those plants look Build as fuck to me, but it might just be the flesh background messing with me.Nice work anon.
>>12713225The pic as a whole gives me a vague feeling of Witchaven, but if it was good.
>>12712973He's not wrong, no matter how much you rush to administer damage control for your pack leader.
>>12712567>If the maps suck then they suck, doesn't have to be some kind of purity test.Agreed.
>>12713232>paranoid claimsYou are not healthy either
If Duke Nukem was created yesterday, what would you say about his design as a protagonist?
>>12713275He kinda looks like Serious Sam.
>>12713175>maybe even more soOn the bridge and on missions, yes. But he goes out drinking with the boys and jokes around more when there's down time.
>>12713275If be spamming "based" on Twitter.
>>12713275That he's based.
>>12713175I always hated the original series, because of how odd the characters were when it came to machines and cyborgs which felt bizarre for a series set in the future>Kirk meets and alien who enjoys harming humansBut... cantyousee.... we.... are one and... thesame?>Kirk meets a peaceful android who likes humanityI'm going to kill you and salt the earth you stand onDid the Star Trek setting have a Butlerian Jihad or something?
>>12713317Gross oversimplification. But also, clankers get what clankers get.
New M_DOOM sample. I'll probably superimpose the subtitle over it somehow.
>>12713359looks better than that lame gay ass green/purple combination.
>>12713379Take your fucking medicine.
Something a bit like this, and then a specially stylized /vr/ somehow, maybe drawn as lightning bolts.
Flying Shambler!Tremor is okay, but it's doing TOO well at sticking to the original Quake formula and this is getting old fast. The Ziggurat Vertigo replacement is really good though.
Maybe stack like this instead, but I'm not sure how tall you can make your M_DOOM for vanilla.
>>12713275I ain't got time for no trannies.
>>12713447He'd probably fuck a convincing one if he were horny enough.
>>12713467lol no such thing
>>12713413Do you draw them at that 2400x960 resolution? That doesn't scale well to 150x60, and at 250x100 it's too big
Ideally I want the purple text to be as high as this
I checked that the offset has effect on that thing so you can have a long widthbut please make height 60 exactly
Drawing lightning bolts is a bit tricky kinda, at least if you also want it to be legible text at the same time. Anyone else have any other ideas for it? Or are just capable of doing that better than me?>>12713546Oh, no, I just scale it up by 10x, so that I can then cleanly scale it 20% higher to (more or less) match how Doom renders its pixels taller, just to show how the graphic will actually display in the game.Here's the current WIP.>>12713551It would be the same size, I outright just recolored those letters.
>>12713574Like this?looks great especially at widescreen res
I think I like Quake techbases more than the fantasy stuff when it comes to classic style maps. The human enemies tend to be more fun to fight.
Are there any tutorials on how to convert a map from DOOM to heretic? I can save a doom map as a heretic map directly, but i get so many missing textures and borked linedefs...
>>12713598suddenly the dogs
>>12713594Oh, it actually fits vertically? That's pretty good then! Actually almost looks a little weird with it stacked so cleanly above the top menu entry, looking like its own.
>>12713629The dogs feel like the most pointless enemy in Quake, after the rotfish. I don't think I've ever been damaged by one, let alone killed.
>>12713574the r looks kinda like a y
>>12713661try bonk_thatspacepirate if you wanna start hating the dogs
>>12710891Honestly, the problem with Tremor is that it's just Quake 1's campaign all over again and despite the slipseer crowd having a reputation on here for arrogance and wanting to "take over" or thinking they're hot shit they seem terrified of innovating the original map design. Besides, I'd argue Quake's official campaign is worse than Doom's.The gameplay, weapons and monsters only really shine in good fan maps, but that's just my opinion.
>>12713712There's a reason why Doom is more popular than Quake even to this day, but it's still a good game.
How do I make Heretic be not boring? I'm assuming that it sucks because I'm trying to play it like Doom instead of like Heretic so what does "playing Heretic like Heretic" really entail? Obviously, I am not playing the remaster.
>>12713720I feel that there’s a few reasons these days, though Q1 does compare more favorably when compared solely to Doom 1.But in addition to the enemy roster, Quake feels much more “rigid” with its modding: With Doom, depending on the port, you can combine several - a gameplay mod, maybe a monster replacer, all on top of plenty of vanilla maps. For Quake, most of the new/good stuff I’d want to try with mods were all made with things like AD, Copper, or their own thing.
Understandable
>>12713803I can use one for M_DOOM and the other for doomworld thread
>>12713813*clearing namefag*
>>12713796i dont know how doom works but a quake mod is literally the game logic. Its not like plugging in a module each progs file is its own game code. Quake 2 has the same problem and so does half life where you can not load a mod on top of a mod thats why so many bots had to to be adapted for mods and you would see things like CTF+ReaperBot when looking for server files. In quake the game logic is run on the "server" and your game client is just for rendering, inputs and such even in single player the server just runs in the background unnoticed. You cant run a bot over another mod cause the bot logic would be competing with the mod logic so they need to be combined. I think half life gets around that limitation with things like metamod and amx scripting.
>>12709049For 666 Minutes of /vr/Some anon said that map with stock textures only would be lame, so I made another one, now only with BTSX stuff. It sucked all the time and life out of me and I had to copypaste a lot to squeeze in time limit.https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RLfbRyIvkqhYeR1SbXK7XrfaBgWAmWPd/view?usp=sharingName: Scraping the bottomAuthor: GuyWithTeaCupMidi: Perturbator - Weapons for Children (sequenced by some anon and slightly tweaked by me)
This is very much a work in progress
>>12713948I'm liking this progress.
>>12713948...Are you actually editing that model in QME?Vertex by vertex? Frame by frame?Jesus.
>>12713664Yes, it's quite bad, I'd have to think of something else.
