=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
666 Minutes of /vr/
Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)
Resources & Rules : >>12687710
Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/

An Eternity of /vr/
Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternity
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025

=== NEWS ===
[08-26] DRD Team will stop updating all Wolf3D and Doom engines on its website on October 1st, 2026
https://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=10166

[08-25] Doom Universe Installment B released
https://timeofdoom.proboards.com/thread/208

[08-25] Alien Breed 3D 1 &2 getting re-released as a part of series collection
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4870460

[08-23] Sunlust: The Way We Remember It released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159873

[08-15] Abyssal Apocrypha is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159769

[08-12] 2x2 project has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159719

[08-11] Ironwail v0.8.2, with Dawn of the Machine compatibility
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/ironwail/releases/latest

[08-08] Doom II Tracker Music CP is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159626

[08-06] Ex-employee leaks canceled Quake 4 expansion
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/159593

[08-06] Official Quake port gets free new episode

[08-03] PPSS3: Down Unda! is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/158985

[07-30] Reelism 2 TURBO: Expansion Pack 1 trailer
https://youtu.be/_m_lXJj0ocI

[07-29] UZDoom v5.0.0 RC1 is now available
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=81618

[07-27] Malevolence re-released with MAP06 switch fixed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/post/3044962

[07-25] Helion v1.0.0.0 released
https://github.com/Helion-Engine/Helion/releases/latest

[07-23] Tremor, 32-map classic Quake campaign, released after 6yr development
https://www.slipseer.com/index.php?resources/tremor.614/

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>doom
more like dum

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>Hey ranger, you look cute (^.~)
How do you respond?

>>12785795
Quad Damage

>>12785795
HUH HUH
HUH HUH

I tried out Hellion this morning. Looks like good performance and it has surround sound but the mix was really off for me, with gun sound effects being exclusively in the rear speakers and way too loud. The monsters seemed pretty directionally accurate.

Have there been any good gameplay mods lately? I came back to doom after a few months and I used to really like Stormtrigger but I don't really care for it right now. I've started getting the urge to play with Final Doomer weapons, the TNT shotcycler sounds like God slamming his car door.

I'm playing with uhh Kan Awakening. My patch of it at least, where I ripped out the no-bleed code so that nashgore would work properly.

>>12785536
I've heard there was some gimmick map that turned player into a ghost and had him just dodge shit for a while, but I don't remember what was it's name.

>>12785857
uuuuh, The Thing You Can't Defeat?

>>12785919
The jokes just write themselves.

>>12785919
..thats a man right?

Done with Blood. Now to finish Shadow Warrior. There was a lot of stuff I liked a bit more about Blood gamefeel wise but Duke had better music and sound design - some of those levels towards the end of Blood - music got so grating I didn't bother looking for secrets. Blood was a better looking game for the most part. Really liked the map design of both.

is Unreal 1 freeware?

>>12785970
Unreal Gold is free to download i think
https://www.oldunreal.com/

>>12785919
not retro, fuck off

>>12785967
Thats romero after Microsoft cancelled his FPS.

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>>12785489
The light tank is the closest to matching the first game's aesthetic, and his behavior is the closest to what the strogg should be: a big nigga marching at you with a flamethrower and pile driver mace thing

Rangeban Russia.

>>12786004
Staff is too busy nuking Auster threads to babysit the underage illegal immigrant crying about Romero and transsexuals for the past few days

This is a Romero general, thoughbeit

>>12786063
why would you rangeban 70% of the poasters

>>12786091
Удвaивaю.

>>12785917
No, the map is older than this.

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>>12786059
>the closest to matching the first game's aesthetic
I really do hate how much they changed the style. I get they wanted to show off normal maps and other modern shader stuff, but you don't need to make everything curvy and organic to do that. Doesn't help that Doom 3 already did the same thing (and better).
It's a shame the expansion was never finished. It looked like they were correcting course in many ways.

>>12786206
I'm sorry for using outdated, politically incorrect terminology and triggering you. I'll do better next time.

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Can we do a Turok map jam?

It's the 30th anniversary next year and it'll take 6+ months for people to make maps anyway.

>>12786212
>It's a shame the expansion was never finished. It looked like they were correcting course in many ways.
I still need to try that expansion that got leaked recently.

I think I played too much Quake before playing Unreal. These maps are huge but really empty.

>>12786318
Yeah, big maps, tankier but more active enemies.

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>>12785795
have a slug dearie

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>>12786339
baste

>>12785967
Still would.

>>12786325
Yeah I'm just gonna turn the difficulty way up and restart.

>>12786343
this doesnt seem to align with the original model

>>12786354
Don’t go higher than the “Unreal” setting, anything more is geared towards coop and can be unplayable.

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>>12785795
Made for Big Tank D

>>12786212
The strogg's whole gimmick is a transhumanoid race always changing and upgrading themselves, and I think it would've been solid worldbuilding to have areas with distinct looks to show how they go about it. Kinda like how modern consumer products are all flashy, whereas the government is still using IBM hardware from 30 years ago because it still works. One area has the slick retrofuturism with the curvy red and blue strogg wielding fancy blasters and whatnot, and another looks more like quake 2 with olive drab and utilitarian designs, and all the guys are ballistics users who look like they bathe in liquid grime.

It could've also opened up the setting for storytelling and gameplay. Maybe stroggos finally gets tired of the war and reveals some ultimate project, and the player goes into an area that's all aristocratic, with the strogg looking like some hyper-advanced aliens like the albino dude from Prometheus. Or maybe they would've gone insane while losing to humanity, and just pumping out bizarre creatures that make no sense until they all die out. I don't know, I'm just daydreaming. I think the strogg are missed potential overall, and being tied to the eldritch half of Quake hinders them

Who are all of Deriver's exit messages referring to? I get the GMOTA boys and Arti, though it looks like two of them could be Doomslayer.

>>12785795
>Makes no appearance in Call of the Machine along with her Beta-Class variant and the Black Widow.
What did MachineGames mean by this?

>>12786391
>I don't know, I'm just daydreaming. I think the strogg are missed potential overall, and being tied to the eldritch half of Quake hinders them
I already have Doom and Quake to explore themes between “evil/eldritch” magic and technology, so I agree. I think I’ve seen it referenced as the difference between 40k lore compared to Battletech’s.
It also seems that wanting to link Quake 1 with 2’s setting is a very popular viewpoint, sadly.

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666 deadline is pretty soon. Should I try to make a level?

Do it fgt

>>12786670
If you can set aside 11 hours before the deadline, go for it.

Make Cirno's Perfect Map Class.

>>12785795
DUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDU(Nailgun)

>>12786618
Well, Doomslayer is also part of GMOTA. So. I guess it's him.

>>12786813
They're all separate. I know it's Dark Knight reading them again. Dunno who Hunter and the first two are.
>"The Dragoon and the Paladin. Blazing fist, crushing hammer. Inseperable, unstoppable."
Inseparable*
>"The Dark Knight. Obsidian blade and Mistral. Avenger of his people."
>"The Hunter. Tearing hands. Insatiable hunger."
>"The Jade Knight. Zarach. A worthy opponent."
>"The Iron Sentinel. Long rifle. Heavy is his burden."
>"The Redeemed Thief. Chain and Siroc. Bright is his light."
>"The Artificer. Cutting light. Fractured, but dangerous."

>>12786784
>ass game made gay
>retard talking power
>dying inside kills pain
Deep.

>>12786784
>Daikatana blood mistake
>Shitty drake enemies

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Too many guns. I want more boomer magic spell shooters.

>>12786796
>nailgun
>vs iron maiden
Don't you mean ETF Rifle?

>>12786934
Walpurgis mod is good

>>12786618
>>12786847
The Dark Knight is actually Hector. The Hunter is Telos. The Dragoon and Paladin are two characters from something else of mine.

>>12785795
Wish the remaster monster uv map werent garbage, they managed to keep the md5 uv map of players fine, but monsters and gun models are a shitshow.

https://x.com/UZDoom/status/2093458603747467673
>UZDOOM 5.0 IS FINALLY HERE!
uhhh where is it? the github doesn't have it yet.

>>12786991
All I see are the pre-release builds https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases

>>12787001
>more controller support
>for all the 3 faggots who play fucking doom on their stupid bing bing wahoo machine

>>12785780
[08-28] UZDoom 5.0.0 released https://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/5.0.0

>>12787036
Great, the UZDoom devs are just as bum-fuckingly retarded as Graf. Hope they get sacked.

>>12787036
>>12787040
You guys are babies.

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>>12787036
Don't disrespect HIM.

>>12787036
Zoomers often play with gamepads, and GzD/UzD also gets used for new games, which hypothetically can get console releases.
This is also setting aside ALL the other things in that changelog, you fucking histrionic woman.

>>12787050
No Anon. You don't understand: They're not working on what he wants. So he's gonna get really mad and throw a fit.

>>12787036
Some of us play with gamepad and mouse at the same time.

>>12787040
Sacked by who, themselves?

>>12787043
>entering underhalls

Dipshits in this thread actually aping out over controller support when you can look up any footage of people playing Quake from like release all the way through 2000 or so at LAN parties and there's always like 10 or so freaks using the most psychotic peripherals imaginable to control the game

Genuinely who fucking cares man

>>12787107
Speaking of which, anyone ever tried that joystick that Romero was promoting back in the day? Was it any good?

>>12786975
Ohh, okay. Mistral probably should have told me that, but I didn't know if that was just what the Deriver called the Dreadbolt.

It's also interesting that there seems to be a Serious Arti.

>>12786974
Seconding.

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>>12787107
Whining about controllers never made any sense to me. That's one of the draws of PC gaming. Plugging any gamepad unlike consoles. Now when a PC game is out and a window pops out telling you it is best played with a pad, I've seen people make a huge deal out of it. Meanwhile my friends back in school were using shit like this to play emulators.

>>12787107
Yeah, I honestly don't see how using a controller is any worse than keyboard only, or a flightstick.

>>12787107
It's /v/ poisoning.
Controller on PC = casual
casual = blight upon video games

>>12787158
Broken clocks twice a day.

>>12787036
i got hurt last year, haven't been playing, just following gossip, and thinking of buying an xbox or steam controller so i can play again

it will probably make the game harder but eh

>>12787107
Doom is the best shooter to play from gamepad because it has no vertical camera movement, and it's the worst part about aiming with sticks.

>>12787162
Completely fucking mindless, go kill yourself.

>>12787171
Just dual analog sticks will be somewhat less efficient than being able to aim with your mouse, but overall it works pretty well. Not outright crippling, but I notice I can't do hard maps as well with just that. Doom and Wolf3D suffer the least since you only aim horizontally anyway, but they benefit from the better input, obviously.

However, you aren't only stuck to merely twin sticks, there's quite a lot of options. Some controllers have gyro input, which some people say is basically as good as a mouse, so you could try that out.
There's also some controllers having touch pads on them which you could apply fine precision to. Then you could put your mouse in your right hand, and your gamepad in the other.
Both Nugget and GzDoom/UzDoom have very good gamepad support, so they should be pretty suitable for it. I know also that QuakeSpasm and its descendants have good gamepad support too.

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dark woods... home

>>12787194
no the problem is i can't use a mouse unless i set the sensitivity so high I'm not moving my shoulder

i have a ps4 controller i use for emulation but the sticks blow it's not good for doom

been a pretty boring year

>>12787201
https://youtu.be/WfRE-eSH3kc

Considering Doom only has one axis for aiming, you could just set it up so the direction of your stick is the direction of your camera.

Is there a single zdoom/gzdoom wad worth playing? I have yet to find one.

>>12787225
Extermination Day and that one Deus Ex HR themed map

>>12787229
>Extermination Day most notably refers to the official massive campaign megawad for Brutal Doom
bruh

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>>12787107
>there's always like 10 or so freaks using the most psychotic peripherals imaginable to control the game

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>>12787213
i'd like to raid her womb if you know what i'm saying haha

>>12787232
why not? Brutal Doom is good.
There's also a sterilised version for use with anything else

>>12787225
Darkmoon Alpha is really nice even if unfinished.
>>12787243
>There's also a sterilised version for use with anything else
Yeah this. It's a neat set of levels even when ripped from BD.

>>12787213
>We were born into this world, where we once lived a life of loneliness. Together we created a family, a life, and a journey. Our love can take us up above the skies, all the way to the moon, and soon the suns beyond. We will live on as shining stars, dotting across the universe.
A pretty enough sentiment, but reality isn't that nice for many of us.

>>12787135
>window pops out telling you it is best played with a pad, I've seen people make a huge deal out of it.
My stance has landed on if you need to warn people off using M+KB on like a 3rd person shooter or RPG, I assume they've just done a lazy port job.

The Grenade Launcher in Shadow Warrior is absurd. This might be the best grenade launcher in any game I've ever played - the range, the bounce, the damage, the aoe. They give you so much ammo too.

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>>12787382
It looks so badass too. I think they based it on the one from Predator.

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>>12787236
The perspective on this gun always seems so weird to me. It looks like it defies the rules of geometry by being cavalier oblique and completely devoid of foreshortening. Given the low resolution, it might look worse with a different perspective though, given that it's basically just a box.

>>12787415
Yeah it does look like that one.

>>12787421
It's def chunky. I think Duke had the best rocket launcher of the 3 atm - that thing was almost like a plasma rifle/tesla gun in terms of how often it was the best weapon to move around with despite being an explosive. Uzi's feel weaker than the Ripper and both felt worse than the Tommy Gun. Each of the games have their strong points.

>>12787429
Duke's rocket launcher makes me cum, it packs such a fat punch and the explosion has a hard and echoing sound to it.
The one reason I don't say it's conclusively better than Doom's is that Doom lets you carry twice the ammo and it fires a lot faster.

>>12787454
the rockets has such a satisfying explosion to it. the shotgun in blood was nuts and I like the jabbing of the voodoo doll - feels so violent. Duke's jetpack I think was the most fun once I had a good key bind for it. Missed it immediately in Blood and Shadow Warrior. Blood at least had the boots that you can toggle but it's not the same. Started getting more use out of the Holoduke too later.

Why do people have such a negative attitude toward long Doom maps? IMO, a map is only too long if it's clearly padded or repetitive. Otherwise, giant maps are some of the most memorable experiences.

>>12787568
because they don't actually enjoy playing Doom

>>12785795
Ranger? Who's Ranger? My name is Bitterman.

>>12787634
>Bitterman
Moar liek SHITTERMAN!

>>12787568
IMO especially long maps (like in the hours) only suck if they are very linear. After a certain point, you'll definitely notice some sections that exist solely to pad the length and nothing more. Sometimes can feel like it could have been split into multiple maps instead and nothing would even change.

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>>12787474
Blood makes me feel like a sadist. I'm usually indifferent to how an enemy sounds when I kill them in a game but I genuinely get a kick at how the cultists scream when they die, especially if you have spatial audio and hear their bodies being flung across the map from a nice TNT throw. Especially with how annoying those fuckers are when you're learning to deal with hitscans in that game.
Best build shooter or not, Blood really does makes you feel the most like Caleb. Low on health and just picking at naked innocents with a pitchfork while calling them 'pathetic insects' etc.

>>12787107
There are 2 webms of a Quake lan parties with everyone playing KB only but I lost them

Is the icon of sin, Satan?

>>12787672
it's actually my peenus weenus
romero tweeted about this

>>12787036
Not gonna lie, I like playing Doot with my hotbox.

>>12787675
your what?

>>12787415
Hey I hadn't noticed. Cool.

>>12787650
Don't think too hard about it. Video games are fiction and amusing.

>>12787568
Because they refuse to save, so that they can get internet clout.

>>12787601
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

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>>12787690
this thing, it's a bit like keyboard but my hands pretend they're not fucked when I use this

>>12787568
>giant maps are some of the most memorable experiences.
I often agree with this. I remember the first time I played Eviternity's Map 32 and it was an odyssey. I real experience that was probably also the only map I played that day.

>>12787454
The Doom rocket launcher is powerful but I hate how often the fat missiles can blow up in your face against close obstacles, which is why the Quake one tends to be my favorite just for sheer practicality and ease of use. The Duke one is great too.

>>12787634
*Grunt

>>12787729
Quake's is prob the most useful with rocket jumping giving it more utility than even Dukes but my god is it impossible to compete with build explosion effects. They are just pure cumsplosions of the highest possible quality - that alone gives Duke the edge. And yeah I just think Duke has a better feeling rocket launcher than Doom - from Lunar Apocalypse onwards I just kept that thing out 24/7 to delete Enforcers at the start of any fight before they could damage me. Doom's you frequently take damage with at close range or it misses - like Blood once you have the plasma/tesla - that's your main weapon when turning a corner to minimize damage to zero by potentially stunlocking an enemy that survived any TNT.

Is it not possible to have Blood mods in sub folders for Nblood?

Death wish replaces textures which is annoying.

>>12787805
it's possible. Death Wish is in its own folder and when I want to play it I select it in the 'custom content folder' thingy

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Alright, I finally wanna try it
What source port is good, yquake2?

>>12787568
I don't like them because I have limited time to play games and, when I spend all of my free 2 hours of time on finishing 3/4 of the map, I don't receive the same satisfaction I get from finishing 3 short maps, because on that day I finished 0 levels. Long maps can be awesome, fun, creative and beautiful, I aknowledge that, but they give less acomplishment in comparison to short maps.

>>12787829
It's a good vanilla source port. 90% mods work with it too. Rest require kmq2 or remaster.

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GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY!! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!

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>>12787882
The pistol whip -> ammo idea wasn't working out, so I said fuck it and I went with a different slot 1. It's a peashooter that becomes progressively better as you pick up other weapons. It also recharges.
I'll probably fuck with the ammo consumption as I do more playtesting, as well as damage. I want this thing to be like Unreal's Dispersion Pistol.

>>12787402
what is the best doom vending machine?

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>>12787235
>>12787115
I have one, and it's very fun to use. It only works on Windows 98/XP, and even XP needs special drivers. Even then, most games don't support it, so you need to use an old version of antimicro to convert the inputs to keyboard/mouse inputs.
If you want it to work on newer windows/whatever you need to strip out all the old hardware and put in new generic switches and an optical sensor for the ball and everything. There was a guy who did that as a service, but iirc it costs 200 dollars and you need to ship out your panther xl to him and everything.

I hunted around for this info before, so I put everything I found here, wrt to getting it functioning on XP:
https://archive.org/details/panther-xl-windows-xp

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>>12787568
>a map is only too long if it's clearly padded or repetitive
Because they often do feel padded and repetitive.
Often, my enjoyment of a map starts going downhill after 20 minutes or so. Many long maps don't have enough going for them to justify their length.

There seem to be two common causes here:
>"Oops, I created this giant sprawling city/base/castle/cave layout, and now I have to fill it with monsters somehow."
>"I want to make a Sunder/God Machine homage, so the map will be some giant metallic behemoth that takes over an hour to beat, even though I have no idea what to put in it."
In the former case, you get a lot of uninteresting incidental combat that mostly exists so you're not running through empty corridors.
In the latter case, you're likely to get one generic combat-puzzle slaughter fight after another, which all kind of blend together in my mind. Having just played it, a lot of late Simulacrum maps suffer from this somewhat.

Shorter maps are mostly immune to this. I've often found myself enjoying 5-minute "my first map" maps consisting of shotgunning barons more than 30+ minute maps from experienced mappers.

Not all long maps have these issues, of course. To pick some long Eviternity 2 maps which I played recently:
- Charge (32) is quite long, but it has a really good flow to it. You can kind of just breeze through most of the map, and the map has some great highlights.
- Kenosis (36) is long as well, but all challenges/fights feel unique, even if I don't necessarily like all of them. Exceptions being two of the fights in the center building which do feel quite generic, but that's only 2 fights instead of 20 like in many Sunder-clones.

I do hate Doom, btw. It's important to hate things so you don't do them while making maps.

>>12787939
>It's important to hate things so you don't do them while making maps.
But then you're just making yourself miserable for no good reasoh wait I forgot we're on 4chan.

>>12787882
Altfire that lets you eat guns.
More importantly, it'll will keep selected weapon type. So for example, if you salvage a weird rocket launcher, you'll automatically switch to vanilla one.

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>>12788029
ass

>>12786063
Kek, Russians cannot open 4chan without a VPN anyway
t. Russian

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>>12787882
Wasn't happy with the old mountain textures. This one's an improvement but could still use some work.

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>>12787882
Messing with the bloody shotgun, kind of realizing what bothers me the most is how bright the blood is.

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Playing Vrasch Botanicals with P.Malice and Dest.Phenomenon.

Map03 Interstellar Vinery was really good.

>>12788052
Skill issue.
t. Russian posting from a Russian IP

>>12787568
I don't, I can really quite enjoy big and long maps (I kinda like Drake O'Brien's maps), though I think there can be issues of pacing. For a lot of people, if multiple maps in a row are really big and long, that can be kind of daunting, so it can be good if a .wad breaks it up and have multiple medium and small maps in a row, between the big and long ones.

>>12788141
Unironically hope you're doing well and times haven't been too tough for you. I mostly like the Slavs around these parts, a lot of them are good mappers.

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>>12787601
>>12787710
Well, being fair it can really depend, there's a large degree of subjectivity.

You look at the kind of maps which Lainos do, where they're huge and you're spending hours on them. They can be these colossal and lavishly detailed urban sprawls, or deep and complex basecrawls, along with large bouts of nature breaking them up. I fucking love his maps a lot, he's one of my favorite mappers.
However, that's one map, you have almost an episode's worth of content in a single giga level.
Imagine now if he stacked fucking 9 such levels in one .wad, that may actually be a really fucking good epic, I'd play it if he made it, but that's a BIG time commitment, that may even take more time than many normal 32 map megawads.

Compare to many .wads where the average level takes maybe 15-30 minutes at most, and it may be a full 32 level load, but you can so easily do that in contained bites. Do one, two, maybe even three levels in one day, fully complete them all, and since they're all self-contained it leaves no feelings of loose ends. It's more readily easy to digest that kind of setup over a period of time.
I think that it's somewhat telling that there's extremely few full 32 level megawads which have really huge gigalevels. Not just because of the labor needed to craft, but because of who'll play it. There's some, like Armadosia : The Mad Corridor, and that's its claim to fame, but how many people have actually played it?

That's before we even get into what kind of gameplay maps have, and which you're into. Some giga levels are these majestic slaughter epics, but not everyone is big into maximum slaughter. I like SOME slaughter, the occasional Go 2 It is what I like for slaughter, but I personally don't have what it takes for the biggest and densest slaughters, and just thinking about doing such a level feels daunting. How and where do I begin?
Some giga levels are absolute fucking slow boils, and I fucking love that, but that puts some people to sleep.

Anyone actually play Armadosia? What's it like? I recall someone once setting out to play through it all with HDest, no idea if that combo worked out well.

>>12787650
Based and Dynamitepilled.

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>>12787882
Something clicked in me and I began working on a sort of MBF21 showcase mod to break up work on Eraser. The idea is simple, show the cool things that can be done within the standard and explain how they're done. I'll likely make a video further explaining these things when it's done.
It's mostly just what I personally have made, but made a bit simpler. Just gotta do something with the BFG and chainsaw, then replace the pistol. It's not bad, but it's not great either.
>https://litter.catbox.moe/20g78js2a6xuyz95.mp4

>>12787209
Have you tried a trackball? They should require less shoulder movement I think.

>>12788202
You really can't help yourself despite how much you hate MBF21 huh

>>12788202
very cool ssg replacement
not a big fan of the chaingun replacement, just the silhouette, but there's only so much you can do with a centered rifle
the plasmagun is cool

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>>12788207
I don't hate it anymore, that was just a product of me losing my cool instead of taking a break and reassessing my situation. I'm over it.

>>12788209
It'll get replaced as well, I'm not happy with it myself and I'm still on the fence about using projectiles. I'll probably use picrel because it's what got me started with the first iteration of this mod back in January.

>>12788225
>picrel
much cooler, very nice
as for BFG replacements, I'm not sure. I kind of feel like any BFG replacement should have at least similar functionality to the BFG, like the one from Vendettaguy in Final Doomer. I don't like replacements that stray too far because it messes with the game feel for me, e.g. the one in Stormtrigger.

deadbolt nughud for gzd when

>>12788173
>There's some, like Armadosia : The Mad Corridor, and that's its claim to fame, but how many people have actually played it?
*raises paw *
It was pretty fucking long and I believe some maps broke because I was playing it in ZDoom.

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>>12788229
I was thinking of doing something where the BFG ball shoots out homing projectiles when monsters get within a radius, then it also does the BFG spray. The plasma rifle is just the same, the BFG can be just th same.

I'll be honest, I have no desire to work on Deadbolt. I tried making the Decorate conversion at least 4 times over the months and my interest evaporates every single time. I kinda hate myself for it.

>>12788248
>I'll be honest, I have no desire to work on Deadbolt. I tried making the Decorate conversion at least 4 times over the months and my interest evaporates every single time. I kinda hate myself for it.

Literally me
not with doom mods but I get it
understandable

getting a uzdoom setup together after some odd years since my last gzdoom one, what's the current recommended launcher/modloader

>>12788274
ZDL still works. I tried "updating" but I just came back to ZDL.

>>12788274
>>12788282

if you really want to be autistic about having a library of maps and mods, Acecorp launcher is very pretty and has good functionality
but i prefer ZDL

>>12787910
Naturally the best kind are interactable, you either 'use' them to get an item or you just attack them to break them open. I was thinking could make them function like an actual transaction by trading some health in exchange for some ammo or something, since these games don't usually have any currency equivalent, but it might feel weird dying to a vending machine if you over do it.

is Powerslave worth the time?

>>12788274
A loader/launcher is kinda vital for handling Doom files and mods IMO.

Also, be careful with WHERE you download UzDoom, there's someone hiding malware in a copy of it, and because Google fucking sucks and is gay and retarded, and "Search Engine Optimization" is by itself a cancer on search engines, it's one of the top search results.

ONLY get UzDoom from its GitHub.

>>12788127
Map04 is also great. Pretty long but very good. Forgot to screenshot. Not a fan of the final fight but overall good.

>>12788357
i went to the github from the trailer video last night and got the 5.0 release, sure, but windows defender considered the updater a trojan anyway.

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>>12788438
>windows defender

>>12788467
Not him but I refuse to use Loonix until it supports Clip Studio Paint.

>>12788295
True. Best you can do in vanilla though is to have it open a secret or something. You could probably dehacked it to drop a soda though...

>>12788476
usually i've seen them open a concealed compartment with hp or armor bonuses hidden by a texture plane that is the machine's front

>>12788297
S'alright, I felt the level design was very restrictive and the combat wasn't particularly engaging, but it's a fun adventure for what it is
Haven't played the DOS version nor the dumpsterdive re-release though

>>12787881
Should I be using gl4 or vk renderers or default gl3 is fine?
https://github.com/yquake2/ref_gl4
https://github.com/yquake2/ref_vk

>>12788483
Yeah. I was trying to think of something re-usable.
You'd have to replace a monster and an ammo or something. Or you could just make an ammo vending machine with a self-killing/self-resurrecting zombieman/chaingunner or something. If you made it small enough would the ammo pop out in the proper space, outside the door?
HMMMMMM

>>12788297
I played the DOS version through a sourceport. You can play it if you're curious but there's nothing of value in it, it's a mediocre doom clone that doesn't do duke-y stuff despite sharing it's engine.
It's bland, repetitive, doesn't do much. But it has nice art, hot babes and killer soundtrack.

I thought 5.0 was already out for UZDoom - i was using it for weeks

>>12788559
That was one of the release candidates/betas

>>12785919
Honestly not a bad photo. For a moment I really thought that was a woman until I saw the toys at the bottom.

>>12788467
>1.03 MB
Come on, you should be better than this.

>>12788947
...did he embed something into the image?

>>12788980
You haven't been able to embed files in images in many years, because pedophiles on /b/ would trade CP that way, which obviously becomes a colossal legal liability (and they didn't just do it on /b/, either).

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>>12788989
So is it just an embarrassing chimpout towards the file size?

>>12788993
Probably.

Embedded files used to be just a fun thing people would use, too, so I'm extra salty about that.
You could embed a funny little song in an image or something, or a tiny .zip file, but criminally sick fucks had to ruin the fun for everyone.

>>12785773
Divine Twilight Chapter 2 got updated with bug fixes, map changes, and its full OST.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/divine-twilight/downloads/divine-twilight-chapter-2-11

>>12789076
>>12785780

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make this a doom wad

any games with enemies that can walk through walls?

So with 5.0 is GZDoom multiplayer finally good now? Can I play fancy mods with a lot of zscript with friends and generally not descync?

>>12789187
We should test it out

>>12789160
Arch-Viles used to outright fucking noclip in Hideous Destructor before, and while that's nicely fucking terrifying, it ultimately caused problems and they'd sometimes get themselves helplessly stuck on things. So now they just turn invisible and invincible while quietly stalking you at extra high speed.

>>12789187
I believe they have fixed some of the old janky slop which GzDoom's P2P multiplayer used to have. It still broadly functions the same, but just not so retarded.

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These guys are way easier with FastMonsters on.

>>12789187
>>12789203
A good number of the void creatures in Project Malice can also go through walls.

has anyone tried uzdoom's "improved" multiplayer? is it reasonably close to zandy's netcode now?

>>12789076
Congrats on the release. Looks like waiting a little to play chapter 2 was a good idea.

how do I get Doom 3 to stop crashing when I use the elevator at the beginning? I cant verify files and I've tried entering windowed mdoe

>>12789268
I keep meaning to make time but I'm very lazy.

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Lo Wang has the voice of an angel

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>>12789250
Surprisingly, "get your dick out" is a great solution to a number of situations with this combo. Spiders coming at you? Get your dick out. Star Vampires invisible and you're not sure where they are? Get your dick out.

Petitioning Wendigos is also handy. They can eat the skeletons that auto revive. I mean I made them die permanently to zerk piss and the chainsaw, but still.

just played my first custom quake mod ever. I picked Alkaline and finished the first map and it was straight peak

I find the vanilla Quake enemy roster pretty boring, the only enemies that are fun to fight are Ogres and Enforcers so its pleasant surprise to see almost 100% new enemies that are all fun to fight. Unlike the main game I noticed that any enemy that is tanky is also not fast and vise versa which is kinda obvious good enemy design now that I think about it.

Btw Whoever invented Vores should honestly get anally raped by pinecones.

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>>12789250
>>12789419
I see I'm not the only one running stuff with Strange Aeons.

>>12789304
Take the stairs instead, fatass.

>>12785795
>Ranger
Wouldn’t it be Bitterman?

>>12789268
It's better than it was.
>is it reasonably close to zandy's netcode now?
Not really, it's not and never will be dedicated servers, I've had desync issues with some more heavy zscript-based stuff but it's still a big improvement.

>>12789081
>include labcoat
>this adds 70 hundred hours of wallhumping because of first person perspective
I would still do it.

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>>12789481
Alkaline's a great choice, I love the sci-fi aesthetic and atmosphere.

>>12789698
Screenshot reminds me a bit of that 2nd area in STRAFE.
Really really wish that game was significantly better than it is because I still think it has some of the most unique environments and story concepts of any of the modern era of boomshoots but it just kind of blows ass.

>>12789481
I also hate vores. Especially when there is more than one!

>>12789509
I thought Strange Aeons only had support for High Noon Drifter

>Dawn of the Machine, new game plus bloody nightmare
>reset upgrades, different placements for health, weapons reset on level change
I’m ready, bring it.
>enemies have slightly increased health on bloody nightmare
I never saw this mentioned and it’s throwing me off like crazy.
>>12789698
I can never decide on which one I like more: Arcane Dimensions or Alkaline. So I just say “yes”.

>>12789803
Nah, HND just came out with it's own patch for running it with Strange Aeons.

It's really quite easy to knock out your own, change five or so actors to ensure compatibility for some weapons and powerups, throw in a keyconf to clear and restore the doomplayer class if needed, job's done.

>>12789878
I was able to do this for Valiant, have not made any leeway in doing this for Lost Civilization 2.

>>12789717
I don't remember it exactly but my friend was saying that STRAFE advertises itself as boomer shooter while it plays like tactical shooter, or something like that. You can't run and gun your way through it, instead you need to carefully explore the map at the speed of a crawl and manage your resources (health, ammo, money).

But it has so many awesome secrets packed into it and soundtrack is incredible https://youtu.be/D2sJlgUVfow?si=ugWsutikxdOrKZLC

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I was planning to single segment all Hell Revealed maps for the memes, but playing through a random map (18) with saves reminded me how bad it really was. So I'm doing Alien Vendetta instead.

The red key in this map does nothing, but the trigger line you cross to get it opens up the red bars.

>>12789618
make it like metroid other M where the wave beam could be fired not through every wall but through glass

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>>12789896
idk what this midi (from the AV midi pack) was made for, but it definitely wasn't this map.

>>12789892
>it plays like tactical shooter, or something like that. You can't run and gun your way through it, instead you need to carefully explore the map at the speed of a crawl and manage your resources (health, ammo, money).
I know it advertised itself as otherwise, but after playing lots of Hideous Destructor, Deathstrider, and Deimos/Phobos Delta, that doesn’t sound so bad.

>>12789889
>have not made any leeway in doing this for Lost Civilization 2.
You'd have to fiddle the playerclass stuff onto a modified duplicate of whatever class you want to run, the rest is just replacing pickups, which are stored in individual wads for some fucking reason. Probably an hour or so of fucking about and testing shit.

>>12789896
Honestly, just play HR maps 22, 24, and maybe 26. You can safely ignore everything else.

What did they do with the weapon replacements in AA? It feels like half the time you try and fire them they eat your inputs
Especially the trapezoid/rocket launcher

>>12789973
It should have been fixed in RC2, it had some weirdness with it's frames.

>>12789973
AyyLmao.wad has modified weapons ? I thought it just had new enemies ?

>>12790036
I think he’s referring to Alien Armageddon, a Duke TC.
>Ancient Aliens
>Alien Armageddon
It is quite easy confusing the two, however.

>>12790036
nta, but he means abyssal apocrypha, It's a problem I noticed too but mostly with the rocket launcher and bfg replacements
>>12789973
I think it's because of their weird firing sequence, pressing fire in the wrong frame doesn't register.

>>12790041
>>12790043
>but he means abyssal apocrypha
Holy cow this is confusing

>>12790043
Yeah Abyssal Apocrypha
There needs to be better acronyms for this shit, there's like a billion wads it could refer to
Haven't gotten it with the BFG it's been the plasma gun and the rocket launcher replacements only
The damn Chainsaw replacement is also a pain because it eats up 60% of the screen real estate when you're firing it but I have a feeling that's by design since it's so OP
>>12789984
I have the newest release and it's still does it

>>12789268
Zandybam uses Client/Server multiplayer, while GzD/UzD uses P2P multiplayer. ZScript isn't really readily compatible with Client/Server, which is why Zandybam stays very outdated (though more outdated than it actually needs to be), but UzDoom has finally unfucked some of the stupid shit with the P2P multiplayer.

>>12789896
I'd say that Hell Revealed has aged very poorly, but honestly I don't get how people were even so fond of it to begin with, Alien Vendetta blows it clean the fuck out of the water, it's not even a contest.

>>12790065
>while GzD/UzD uses P2P multiplayer.
Specifically it uses their packet server topology, which is P2P it's just everybody is connecting to one person's instance of Doom instead of everybody to everybody else. It's got it's own set of downsides but it's all they can really use.

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almost out of duke pics

besides the usual stuff, any new weapon reskin packs? or even just slightly different weapons? included in the wad/mod or standalone, dont care. thanks

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>>12789932
Actually nevermind, my soundfont was set up wrong so this midi in particular sounded like some new-age cacophony