DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>12817232Doom/Quake/Duke/Heretic/Hexen/Unreal/Sam/Half-Life/etcGameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source portsAll other 90s FPS welcome~ Let's post like gentlemen ~FAQ/GENERAL GUIDEhttps://rentry.org/vrbinSO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Deus Ex)https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXzSame thing, in video format:https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXAhttps://youtu.be/DhOjleMqwdQhttps://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0== GAMES/RESOURCES ==DOOM Quickstart (IWADs etc): https://mediafire.com/file/wuniyrhsjjgq4y8QUAKE Trilogy FAQ: https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhUHALF-LIFE (GoldSrc) Anthology:https://mega.nz/file/GRUCGbAY#RhOiqxnf7UPOiXcJNbRh-prKIEVRhjJaEpAkt34lyZg4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games:https://mega.nz/folder/etMkxKwK#947kyMN6Z80f8HS7q2XlqAAssorted /vr/ shooters, mods, etc:https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Qhttps://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUAMIDI COLLECTIONShttps://files.catbox.moe/2hul76.ziphttps://mega.nz/file/dWQ3SThI#qYcpa4eGQj6ElyRZgjGqszR59dh4Fq9D3qXYee54kZQhttps://archive.org/details/archiveteam-geocities-midi-collection-2009https://archive.org/details/midiru-archive-2022-02-25.7z== INFO/LINKS ==OFFICIAL DOOM WIKIhttps://doomwiki.org/WHERE TO FIND WADSVanilla/Boom: https://doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/ZDoom: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19/idgames: https://doomworld.com/idgames/MODDING RESOURCEShttps://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37https://realm667.com/== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==THREAD ARCHIVEShttps://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/"doom+thread"/type/op/OUR WADS/MODShttps://rentry.org/vrdepotMAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLYhttps://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrBIMAGE/WAD DATABASEhttps://vrdoom.booru.org/https://wadsup.xyz/MULTIPLAYER SERVERSUS West: https://clovr.xyz/CA/US Midwest: https://macgu.fun/
=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===666 Minutes of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Vanilla (Limit-removing)Resources & Rules : >>12687710Repo: https://gitgud.io/GreenAnon/btsx-project/An Eternity of /vr/Game : Doom 2 | Format : Eternityhttps://www.doomworld.com/idgames/?id=22025=== NEWS ===[09-15] Dawn of the Machine now available on GOG and Epic[09-14] Nuked-SC55 relicensed as GPL2https://github.com/nukeykt/Nuked-SC55/blob/master/LICENSE[09-12] DOOM-CE updated, fully supports UzDoom 5.0https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ce/news/doom-ce-400-released[09-11] Quake II PSX Jam 2 releasedhttps://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-re-release-psx-jam-2[09-10] 666 Minutes Of /vr/ RC2.1https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160124[09-09] New Dawn released, MBF21 weapon mod focused on powerful & fun weapons.https://r3voke.itch.io/new-dawn[09-09] Nugget Doom 6.0.1 releasedhttps://github.com/MrAlaux/Nugget-Doom/releases[09-08] Woof! 16.0.0 releasedhttps://github.com/fabiangreffrath/woof/releases[09-08] Anno Doomini releasedhttps://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/160089[09-04] Property Damage released, mini-mod of destructible props + extra goodies by Pillowblasterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En0F2eofDyI[09-03] Dawn of the Machine's source code added to Quake rerelease's Githubhttps://github.com/id-Software/quake-rerelease-qc[08-30] Divine Twilight Chapter 2 updated, bug fixes, map changes, full OSThttps://www.moddb.com/mods/divine-twilight/downloads/divine-twilight-chapter-2-11[08-28] UZDoom 5.0.0 releasedhttps://github.com/UZDoom/UZDoom/releases/tag/5.0.0[08-26] DRD Team ceases updating all Wolf3D & Doom engines on its website on Oct 1st, 2026https://forum.drdteam.org/viewtopic.php?t=10166[08-25] Doom Universe Installment B releasedhttps://timeofdoom.proboards.com/thread/208=== PREVIOUS ===https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST
Duke nukem is homosexual
>>12823040
>>> CLASSIC DOOM CHALLENGE <<<Record a UV-Max demo of Doom 404 "Infinite Loop" by Adam WindsorReply to this post with a demo & your time.Wad download & records:https://dsdarchive.com/wads/doom404?level=Map+11Example demo in 4:09https://files.catbox.moe/etjhz9.lmpPrevious challenge Winner: Everyone is a winner ;)Imagine if Circle of Death was '8' shaped instead of 'O' shaped, and there was a cloud of cacodemons. This wad's gimmick is that every map has 404 linedefs.
>>12823049>>12823030Also I forgot to mention, the map is number 11, just like 'O' of Destruction.
>>12823020>which isn't something BethesdaNet cares about. People will just fucking upload things on there, even shit that doesn't even run in KexDoom, and nobody cares.This, they didn't even care with their own games when people were uploading Skyrim mods that weren't theirs and required SKSE to even work, they'll care even less about Doom mods.
Dammit I was excited to show you people and now there's a new thread >>12823031
Have the fishes always been this dumb when shot at from above ? I don't recall this happening in vanilla Quake, then again I can't remember if I ever shot rotfishes while not being underwater myself.
Did you know that rotfishes only have 3 tics of memory?
>>12823143you can create similar behavior in both quake and doom by placing a melee only monster that has no possible way to reach youi've seen pinkies do this
>>12823149That's why I prefer barracuda sharks in my aquariums
>>12823168Yeah, monsters in Doom can often do that, but at least they move a bit. Here, my fishes only rotate a bit and don't scrape walls like Doom monsters like to do.
>>12823186https://youtu.be/3yQEOxOSAx4 here's a pretty funny video i found a while back showing this happening in quake 2
>>12823143Yes they've always been dumb like this. The difference is the original maps had completely opaque water so you couldn't just snipe them from above unless you happened to know exactly where they are.
Playing Icarus, it's mostly not that good so far, weaker than Eternal or even TNT, but I'm only at the first half. But the music is so damn good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TdGj3HkulAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRE5R2XXWHk
>SHITTR must perish
Finished you're wad /vr/ have some short thoughts>Map01Nice visuals but a bit too open for its own good, people seemed miss the blue key but I missed the rocket launcher and had to run from 2 key fights lol>Map02Fun little amateur map, a bit too generous with resources but it's fine. Secrets were a bit obscure like having to interact with the obelisk thing at the exit.>Map03Another map that's too big. It was mostly fine but the 2 archies waiting at the top of the elevator was bullshit.>Map04Highlight fo the wad, loved the cacodemon fight over the lava, really exciting stuff. Just a damn fun map.>Map05Just okay, the cock admittedly got a chuckle out of me>Map06Not much to say about this one, enjoyed the gargoyle pestering you though.>MAP31The combat in this one is fun but fuck interacting with the marine for a key. >MAP32Another highlight for me, cool crypt level with some decent setpieces.Pretty fun wad overall especially after abyssal apocrypha which tired me out
Sonic Mayhem's alternative Quake 1 soundtrack is superior to Reznor's.
>dick fuckem againanother thread ruined
>>12823348never heard of thislike both bands but i think quake soundtrack fits the lovecraft vibe
>>12823348It's not bad but the NIN one is way more atmospheric. I have played through using it though. His Quake II soundtrack is legendary though. That Quake tape is what got him the job.
>>12823332Map04 was really shit. i think it should still be the latest map in the set.
>>12823367The guy who did Quake 2s soundtrack sent id a tape of an alternate soundtrack he did for Quake and they liked it so much they hired him to do Quake 2 after Reznor turned it down for having no atmosphere or whatever reason he gave for not doing Quake 2. It's called Methods of Destruction. https://archive.org/details/sonic_mayhem_-_methods_of_destruction
>>12823348as much as I love Sonic Mayhem, nah. not even close
>>12823349Blow it out your ass.
>>12823375sounds like quake 3 (yes i know they did some tracks i own the q3 noise cd)
>>12823412Yeah somewhat. Sonic Mayhem is just one guy, he plays all the instruments. Pretty impressive. It's easy to replace the NIN files with these and play the game like that. Highly recommended to any Quake fan just to see what it's like.
>>12823348I like Hodges’ soundtracks for Q1 and 2 more.
>>12823375>Reznor turned it down for having no atmosphere or whatever reason he gave for not doing Quake 2that was made upthe real reason was because he got busy with shit going on
>>12823423yeah i'm a big fan but i never heard of this albumhe makes a living doing B-movie action flick soundtracks now glad he's doing well in terms of fame and fortune
>>12823440Yep. I think it got twisted from a quote he actually did make that said id asked for pump you up type music and he prefers moody stuff but even then the actual reason was he was too busy to do it
>>12823464don't they talk about this in masters of doom? i haven't read it since it was published so i can't remember
>>12823472Nah they really only talk about him in the Quake 1 part. Quake 2 is mostly covering Carmack coding the engine as fast as he could and Romeros Ion Storm shenanigans
>>12823195That's a Big Fucking Spike.>>12823236I wondered if it was a Dawn problem, but that makes sense I guess.
>>12823348pleb take
We did it reddit!
>>12823510Playing it with the vanilla soundtrack is the pleb position thoughbeit
you did get pump you up ebm with vrenna's quake champions ost and you niggas didn't care for it at all
>>12823521akshually playing it with no soundtrack is the pleb position
>>12823523No one played Quake Champions
>>12823542surely not if you're a civvie11 subscriber hypebeast i assume
>>12823542Odds are more people round here have played Quake Champions Doom Edition.
>>12823548Civvie is based and everyone here watches him despite the posturing.
>>12823464>I think it got twisted from a quote he actually did make that said id asked for pump you up type music and he prefers moody stuff but even then the actual reason was he was too busy to do itKind of ironic considering how pumped up the title track for Q1 is.
>>128235423 frag duels and shit optimizationit's not like i didn't feel like playing it, it was just a trash game
>>12823575okay so i can call quits on this thread
>>12823583A wise man would have dumped this thread sooner.
>>12823585i'm a little retarded a little slow on the uptake
>>12823583If a handful of posts in threads that typically go 600+ posts gets you that rustled perhaps you should go to reddit
>>12823423>Sonic Mayhem is just one guy, he plays all the instruments. Pretty impressive.There's some such guys, though probably in a minority. Trent Reznor also does that, he was working as a janitor at a record studio or something, and just borrowing instruments and recording booths after work hours, and assembling it all in post, all by himself. Reznor did it that way because that's how his idol, Prince, did it.I admire that kind of talent and dedication, it feels like you gotta be more than just decent at each other instrument and role to be a successful one-man band.
>>12823592well bots on plebbit tend to fold instantly as opposed to bots on 4cuck so perhaps i will heed your advice
>>12823596K see ya bro
>>12823575I have my gripes and dislikes with him, but I also consider him reasonably funny. However, I don't feel that there's much reason to talk about him on /vr/.>>12823578I love the title theme for Quake, I kinda wish that the game was alternating between tracks like those and then the spooky tracks.
>>12823595Yeah there's a lot of bands now since it's so easy to make and distribute your own music that it's actually just one guy. Its pretty common in the old school punk and synth punk scenes.
>>12823602>I don't feel that there's much reason to talk about him on /vr/.His channel is about covering retro FPS (with some modern sprinkled in) and he's the biggest in that space so there is naturally going to be some overlap with places like this. I don't understand the sentiment where any mention of the guy is akin to slaying Voldemort but not with any other similar creator.
>>12823605He's a good platform for bait and derailment. Ever since the Shadow Warrior episode where he shittalked the board.
>>12823605>I don't understand the sentiment where any mention of the guy is akin to slaying Voldemort but not with any other similar creator.Anons despised GGGManshills too, he just doesn't get brought up anymore.
>nigger fabino memes and civvie posted againgod this general is so fucking dead
I don't listen to music in Quake because i didn't figure out how to make it work in the source port
>>12823613Ease up on the histrionics pal
>>12823613Relax and have a burger, King.
>>12823609It's because they're popular and normies watch them. That's it. I doubt anyone was that offended by the little jab in the Shadow Warrior vid. It does show he lurks /doom/ though which is hilarious to me.
>>128236131,000,000x better than Vlads babbling endlessly about trannies
>>12823647There's a good chance you just replaced to a Vlad lol.
>>12823641Go away, we're like, closed.
>>12823348I remember having a custom playlist with Isao Tomita songs which I think ended up working really well.
>>12823641>>12823662NO WAY I'M EATING THIS SHIT
>>12823605Because inevitably it becomes retarded drama over some stupid X or Y thing he said, and it just becomes a gay eceleb gossip or culture war thread, ergo like the UzDoom troon flag discourse, and that shit goes in circles for hundreds of posts.>>12823609Largely because he's dishonest and a bitch, something even Civvie called him out on. See? It's happening right now.>>12823613I find half of Fabino's memes unfunny, but half of them mildly amusing. As long as they don't dominate the thread I kind of don't give a fuck, they're just one-off joke images.
>>12823623Literally drop the tracks in a music folder for it.
>>12823721Oh shit really. Well I'm used to it now so no music for me it is
>>12823623>>12823721Also set your source port to not look for a CD for music, as some of them might still do (or if you use an old ass port).
Quake has a good soundtrack, but it's not good music.It's literally a track of sounds - sounds that are very fitting for Quake, but nothing more than that.
>>12823748>Quake has a good soundtrack, but it's not good music.That’s okay.
Can i put any music in the music folder? I just sampled the soundtrack and it sounds like the music equivalent to watching paint dry
What do you guys think about Episode 3 of Doom 1? Personally Inferno is carried by its art and atmosphere for me, beyond that the map design are fine, its pretty much dead set on having tight corridors and small rooms, witch contributes to the difficulty of the episode but its makes the whole episode a bit of a hussle to get thought. Im not afraid to say that whenever i go back to doom 1 Inferno is the episode i look foward the least or the 3 to play.
>>12823748fuck you, i like ithttps://youtu.be/eeNrRHty-Lohttps://youtu.be/4SFkuwGPdeghttps://youtu.be/p2M1PwrhVfoall solid music
>>12823730Shit's real easy. The id1 folder has all the base Quake game stuff, make a folder in there named music, then put in the tracks with filenames like this (they don't have to be .ogg format, .mp3 also works).Similarly for getting the music in the expansions, or in mods like Arcane Dimensions. Give it a try some time, some of the music really fits, I'll give you the files.https://litter.catbox.moe/42yk95k6mluepfrr.7z
>>12823776Yes you can! I even included some alternatives, though I think it's worth experiencing the original Quake with the original soundtrack once.Someone here probably has Sonic Mayhem's alternative soundtrack for the game as well.
>>12823786not enough ammo
>>12823792>>12823801Ok i'll try the original because i appreciate the effort of your posts. I was going to put Guns N' Roses in there
>>12823712>Largely because he's dishonest and a bitchI think he got caught with his pants down because a fuckton of Youtubers including him were being quietly paid to promote one of those faux retro FPS games, and one of them admitted it publicly while he was doing his best to not admit it.
>>12823801We were just talking about that. >>12823375
>>12823712It's stupid to shun conversation of adjacent stuff that is on topic because it MIGHT trigger someone to sperg about something they've said before, js
>>12823838You should lurk more.
>>12823712The flag shit for a loader nobody even uses is probably largely the same anon who was trying real hard to make the Librequake placeholder thing a big issue too, except that time it just got ignored.>>12823838We had a year long almost nonstop shitstorm over an image that hadn't been paid attention to for the best part of a decade, sometimes it's better to just not have to deal with it.
'yeah, piece of cock'-Duke nukem (1996)
i'm a russkie and i like civvie11 and i don't like when there are enemies shooting projectiles behind me because i have cognitive tunnel vision and no object permanence and it's slaughterslop and it sucks please take me seriously give me (You)s really i am not an 80IQ snow nigger
woops, i posted in the wrong threadso i'm dealing with some choice paralysisi'm finally looking to boot up the game for the first time in a while and here's the wads i got from lurking this thread in alphabetical order:>Auger Zenith>Eviternity I+II>Machete>Neon Overdrive>Scythe I+II+X>Sigil I+II>Sunlusti could also try plutonia (i've been told to skip tnt)skill level: i beat doom 1 on nightmare and doom 2 on uv -fast without mid level saving and a few levels of sunlust on regular uv by saving out of combat (like elder scrolls or something) but did not pistol start, but as i've mentioned i tore my shoulder so i dunno. i got sticker shock going to pick up an xbox controller the other day so i'm going to change my sensitivity or somethingany suggestions would be appreciated
>>12823941beating plutonia will have you make up your mind on doom's enemy roster
>>12823748>shit taste detected
>>12823613What the hell is a fabino?
What the fuck is a REKKR-John romero. (real words)
>>12824042>KEKKRposting in 2026Grandpa...
I get the hate for civvie too, I also think the stances he took were fucking stupid the blm thing, was fucking dumb, but yeah he is funny and I generally I think its fine throw shade/banter at people, plus he's fairly decent at games I will also say he's a pleb for night being doom eternal on ultra- violence it's really not that hard plus the game gives you one up and long as you don't die like a retard its fine, I beat ultra-violence it really wasn't that bad.
>>12824042
>>12823748If you haven't fucked your chick to Hall of Souls, you're still a virgin and gay.
>>12823653>replaced to awat
>>12824098replied to a*Fuck. One of those moments where my fingers outrun my brain.
>>12824104You're not fooling anyone, ivan.Go back to the frontline
>>12824147You are way, way off Anon.Like embarrassingly so.
>>12824042Mark won
>>12823030Finally i can run Uzdoom 5.0.1 on delta touch.pic related is mfw
>>12823748>electronic music is just beeps and boops, you need to listen to the real classics like Aerosmith and Guns n' Roses!>belly dances with his hambeast wife to Don't Wanna Miss a ThingCringe.
>>12824159sweet, updating now
>>12823748>music is just soundsYou don't say.
>>12823748Reznor himself even said it's a sort of audio atmosphere rather than just music.
>>12823838I mean, is it even worth it? Some YouTube entertainer who's tertiary at best to classic shooter discussion I feel isn't that much conversation by itself, it doesn't bring much to the table.What'd even be the subject, whether or not X or Y opinions of his are good or bad? I feel like that's something that should be discussed in his comment section or Discord channel, that's why he has those.I just see very little value in talking about those people here, and what I've seen repeatedly, is a lot of negatives. Both for the ones I like, and the ones I don't.>>12823941Plutonia is a good frame of reference because of how influential it's been to Doom mapping. Also it's pretty good. Also, you'll learn how to be better at the game, if you can clear Plutonia on UV, you'll be ready for a LOT of custom content. It's not the hardest ever by modern standards, but back when it came out, it was the hardest official Doom product, and it set a number of bars of quality and challenge.TNT is, well, the wildcard. Whether you like it or not is a gamble, it's uneven and rough, and there's some pretty awful shit in there, but I also think that there's some pretty good shit in there too. It's worth trying it out and seeing what you think yourself. If you find that you just don't like it at all, you can drop it like a hot potato.
>>12824212It does feel very parasocial, at least if it were taking about somebody like this guy's videos it'd at least feel more relevant to here since we know for sure he posts here.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJQ6GEi40v8
>>12824212this might seem a bit weird, but do you think i should try plutonia on HMP -fast or something or do UV then try UV -fasti just enjoy the combat when the low level monsters pose a threat more than slaughterslop
>>12824173>This song is about MEEEE!
>>12824212It's just an overreaction. Someone mentions him and people lose their shit. He's the biggest retro FPS video content creator/historian on the internet.
thoughts about killing time?
He's in Brutal John 2
>>12815183>>12815192>not famous, just the only one i know :D Oh, I've seen that domain name somewhere before. Matters not if he's the only one you know, I couldn't have asked for more.>inb4 slowpokeYeah, things happened. Thanks anon.
>>12824253Very cool as a historical curiosity. I am glad it exists and it's worth checking out for anyone into the genre. That said it's not very good to play. Unironically GLOOM is better.
>>12824253Didn't grab my attention.
>>12824253Ross made a good video on it.
>>12824253Across the various versions it has some shit weapons, dodgy balance and some awful levels but thematically is pretty cool.
>>12824253I liked the PC version but more enjoyed the 3DO sprites. I think I bricked my playthrough of the "3DO campaign" mod so I'll have to restart it.
>>12824253good for killing time
thoughts on Duke's shotgun?
>>12824319Good firerate, good damage, accurate, ammo is usually plentiful. It's a good no nonsense shotgun.
>>12824319The only thing I'm not sure I love in it is the scale. I swear it looks like it's just a bit too undersized.
>>12824237Honestly, not really, it'd be better to save such things until after.
>>12824319looks small
>>12824319Feels good, looks good, is good. Same nice range and modest spread like Doom's shotgun.>>12824340They digitized it from a real gun.
Opinions on the unreleased Quake figure line?
>>12824262Really? I haven't played either, but Killing Time looks decent, while Gloom looks like the most boring shit in the entire world.
did they do something to the default UZDoom renderer? i booted up the game after upgrading for the first time in a while and it overwrote a lot of my settings and everything was way too dark. for some reason a lot of settings are missing from the menus so i had to drop to console and mess with the gamma a bit to make doom not feel like doom 3
disregard name i suck cocksthey should really make names on a per board basis but that would require the developers to add features to this dated chinese cartoon web machine running on mac minis
>>12824385I believe they did something with the light mode.
>>12824382GLOOM is surprisingly competent if you give it a chance
>>12824379looks pretty cool, i was ready to be contrarian and all
>>12824379Where is the Shamblers fur?
>>12824389Just erase your name. It's right there. It was right beside the message you wrote.
>>12824406>Shamblers furCanon but also not canon, so it's all artist interpretation
>>12823712>I find half of Fabino's memes unfunny, but half of them mildly amusing.To be honest, the shit Gianni "Duke Nukem agrees with me" Matragrano makes is much worse.
>>12824391there's something wrong with my lighting mod - shit is way too dark, changes to UZDoom must have broke it somehowturning off mods fixed my issue. colored lighting runs poorly on modern wads anywaylook at how fucked up everything got. this is e1m4 in the crazy barrel room at the start of the map.
comparison shotas you can see everything is fine now (i do have the gamma and saturation turned up a notch because i'm an autist who likes bright colors)
>>12824412
>>12824382
>>12824427What I want to know is why he puts his username on these. It's not as though you can "steal" a meme.
>>12824439To bring people to his Twitter/let people know where they can find more. You must admit his style is pretty distinct. No one else is really doing homoerotic retro FPS memes with the amount of effort he puts in them.It's pretty common in general on Twitter because people take memes someone made like this and repost them as their own work on their Twitter.
>>12824439Big ego probably. Oddly enough, he's the only person I know that does this.
after i finished repairing my config i hopped around e1m1 on UV fast and i fucking diedi'm ashamed of myselfi haven't been playing, maybe i should replay doom 2 or something before i try plutonia
>>12824042>So this guy, Raven... or whatever the fuck his name is. so, huh... he made this... what the fuck was his shitty mod's name again? KEKKR, REKT, or some shit like that... anyway, he also came up with the idea of making deathmatch areas within each single-player map, which... BY THE WAY, was MY original idea when I was developing Sigil... a never-before-seen idea that, in fact, HE stole from->[Romero doesn't finish the sentence, he makes a scoffing noise into the microphone followed by a very loud slam on the table that can be heard during the live podcast]>...who the fuck does this guy think he is? he thinks he's gonna top his shitty viking mod over Sigil? you know who the fuck I am? I'm John Romero, motherfucker. I made fucking DOOM for god's sakeThat was a kinda unfair comment from the creator of Doom, John Romero. I was shocked when he said that in the interview.
>>12824379I just want a ranger and doom guy in GI Joe form
>>12824457It's not really THAT ground breaking or crazy of an idea. I am surprised he would get so animated about it.
>>12824457Kek
>>12824445that's really fucking retarded
>>12824360He's a big guy
>>12824459There was that Doom Eternal tie in. Not sure about Ranger.
>>12824463Show me on the doll where Fabino hurt you
>>12824471It'll be around the back, right on his butt LOL
>>12824473
>>12824379Meh.Everything is kinda weird and anemic, especially the shambler and the boobs on the maiden.
>>12824486Yeah that was kind of the style of figures during that period, they all had that heavily textured paint too to simulate textured material but a lot of figured just felt like oatmeal was mixed with the paint. Everyone wanted to emulate McFarlane Toys.
>>12824379I quite like the ReSaurus Quake II. This beefy boy has a working rocket launcher on his shoulder
>>12824397It looks so unbelievably boring and monotonous. Slow action, tiny and repetitive levels.>>12824427No, I love the chainsaw, I always make sure to grab one.
>>12824508You have to give it a chance and actually play it. Looking at videos isn't going to do it.
>>12824340And Doom's was digitized from a toy and it looks both huge and tiny at once.
>>12824439The one thing I actually dislike about him. However, this is also very exploitable of him, which allows for some extra fun.
>>12824525Part of the reason I think he does it is he actually puts up exploitables of the assets he uses in his memes so you can make your own using his photoshops.
>>12824457I saw John Romero at a grocery store in Ireland around 2019. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything, so I asked him what he thought about this REKKR mod rather than asking anything about his work on SIGIL.He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Dr. Pepper cans in his hands without paying.The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
>>12824610this copypasta sounds more like carmack than romeroi was dm buddies with romero on AOL instant messenger for like 2 months it was so weird but really coolmaybe now that he's getting old his ego is bigger but he was chill as fuck when i talked to him directly
>>12824621Any cool stories? Did he ever tell you to kneel and drink your knob like he did in those old Usenet posts we found?
I don't get where the "Romero is an ego maniac" comes from. I've been following that dude's career for the past decade and have even read his autobiography and I don't get that impression at all.Just sounds like jealous projection as far as I'm concerned.
>>12824638The shenanigans during the Ion Storm years show he at least at that time had a pretty inflated ego and I think he's acknowledged that. The REKKR thing was from him throwing a little shade at REKKR on the Dev Game Club podcast but it's memed for comedic effect.
>>12824637i posted about it a few years agothe big revelation was romero figured out mouse and keyboard first but he used the numpad and arrows as wasd wasn't invented yetcarmack used a joystick and everyone else was a keyboard warriorhe told me some stuff about his personal life he should write a memoir abouthe told me that the e3 dragon from quake really pissed him off that it didn't get made. he wanted a level like icon of sin where you ended e4 in a room with a full stack of weapons and a quad damage, you go through a teleporter and the dragon flies circles around you in an arena while shooting fire at youno one but him could figure out how to beat it (because he was the only one using a mouse) so it got cuthe also told me that he intended deathmatch to be an e-sport and really likes watching e-sportsreally down to earth guy unlike most people that famous
>>12824641Its weird he thought the dragon was so great because that thing is terrible when it was implemented in Dissolution of Eternity. It just flies in circles.
>>12824648you were supposed to lead it with quad damage rockets and just kill it as quickly as possibleeven pros have trouble with midair rockets sometimes so i could see why it was so hard
>>12824610Wow, what a douchebag. I remember asking him to sign my favorite REKKR poster that Revae gave me. when he saw it, he made the same expression he has in that photo where he's signing a Doom 3 cover, but more disgusted and filled with hatred. Instead of signing it he wrote 'FUCK REKKR' all over it. he told me in all seriousness that if I wanted an autograph next time I'd have to pay him 3k bucks or fuck off, then he just walked away... I was stunned.
>>12824639I dunno if I'd call that an example of "inflated ego" so much as just having some fun with what publicity came his way. From reading his book, he unwittingly became the "rockstar developer" by accident simply cos he was willing to speak to the press when the other OG id Boys weren't. Probably also helped that he was a good-lookin' fella with awesome hair lol
>>12824653
>>12824641What did he think about the dragon in the expansion?
>>12824670didn't ask
>>12824641Was he at least the best at pvp around the office
Is john actually much of asshole these days, I haven't really dead that off him, the other guy who's trying to sell a meme coin off doom seems like asshole, who probably should have saved his money more, then again I mean I'm surprised any of them have a nice bone that wouldn't overwhelmed by ego. Can say I enjoy fucking them of dick head by gzdoom, actually speaking off that did he just like fuck off from making stuff or is he still working gzdoom?
>>12824657Yeah I know none of that was his fault despite calling himself shit like Doom GOD on Usenet and also he absolutely totally had no idea bro about the Suck It Down ad someone else did that I swear
>>12824676oh yeahone of the things he said is the whole thought he was just jacking off playing doom all day when he was testing the fuck out of the maps constantly making changes because he was the only one who could beat levels on UVhe intended the game to be barely beatable without saving on UV and Nightmare got added because he was surprised people could beat it, so he went out of his way to make it unbeatable for himselfapparently he couldn't get past e1m3 without saves when they shipped it (i can see why that opening fight is pretty miserable on nightmare if they start respawning)
>>12824683No besides being slightly catty in that podcast people are memeing on about REKKR he's actually super cool and down to Earth nowadays and willing to answer questions or do virtually any interview on YouTube he gets asked to do (I have seen him on channels with a few thousand views doing them, though virtually all his interviews are the same because they all ask the same questions and he has a photographic memory or whatever). Any reputation he had in the past as a blowhard has largely been rehabilitated in recent years.
Lately people seem to have stopped giving him shit for daikatana tooo
>>12824694I am calling it now that Daikatana is going to be fully rehabilitated and achieve genuine cult classic status in the coming years.
>>12824683Definitely not. He's always struck me as humble and easy-going and singing the praises of others whenever possible. Even when having to constantly correct Sandy misremembering shit or taking credit for shit he didn't do, Romero's patient and nice about it.>>12824694I mean, the game came out more than 20 years ago. Anyone still giving Romero shit for that is a dumb faggot.
i guess that's one of the things romero told me that isn't exactly publicguys like sandy did all the geometry and texture placement and stuff, but romero was the one who did all the finalized item and monster placement on every single map in doom and doom 2i think he just doesn't want to start shit with his old coworkers so he lets them take more credit than they deservealso remember that romero did the gameplay side of the programming like weapon and item balance. carmack just used his monster ai as is in quake 2 and had to outsource the quake 3 ai to some modder from the gamespy scene because he just has a huge road block on this aspect of programming
>>12824697I've seen people calling Blood 2 a misunderstood diamond in the rough (the fact that it's a bitch to boot on modern machines holds it back a lot), so it's possible.
>>12824704Carmack and Romero were a remarkable team as programmers. You should read Romero's book if you haven't to get a real idea of how they worked together.
>>12824694the thing about daikatana is that the ideas were just too ambitious for its time (and some of them still haven't been figured out like allied NPC ais that aren't retarded)i almost feel like daikatana could use a reboot where we give the ideas another crack with the knowledge we have now and see if it's actually playableit's too bad he got laid off from whatever he was working on hope he can find a new publisher
>>12824707i'll pick it up off amazon when i get my next paycheckwhen he was telling me about his personal life i was dude you should write a memoir and he didn't really answer me there
>>12824692Did he ever answer the question about the holes on the cacodemon and pain elemental? Besides a meme answer, Like did they put it in their for realism or, was just like the lora croft situation "Heheh hey john check it out I put a pussy and asshole on the caco."
>>12824719that's more a question for adrian don't you think
>>12824704That's odd since Carmack is specializing AI now
>>12824719Only Sandy has commented on it and claimed that Adrian said it wasn't intended to be an asshole that he just drew it naturally and that's the point where the body would've converged but I call bullshit on that because that would still mean it really is an asshole and Sandy has been called out for making shit up countless times in recent years
>>12824717I do recommend it, especially if you've already read Masters of Doom. It's a solid companion piece. Romero's prose isn't anything special, but he's incapable of making his life's story boring. His early life is especially wild.
>>12824723totally different type of ai
>>12824726i book pirated masters of doomdon't have the pdf anymorethink i should give it a second read
>>12824725That raises some questions, One question I have if someone were to have relations would it be compatible, actually I mean how smart are the demons, are just unga bunga monsters or like are they sentient? I'm not including new doom I'm wondering purely about doom 1 and 2 lore, cause all of new doom is a fucking mess, and now that every fucking mod is cannon I can't say I care for the cannon beyond the first games.
>>12824732The funny thing is the id Boys didn't care much about the story or canon either back in the 90s. They more or less ignored Tom Hall's original Doom Bible in favour of focusing on action, abstract level design and making things feel fast and visceral. Deeper lore shit like the motivations of the demons beyond being the things you shot in the face with a big gun was not their focus at all.
>>12824706But Blood 2 is a turd.
>>12824741Thats very fair, john carmack did say having story in a game was like having story in a prono, I mean what would you're guys take would be, I mean I'd like to imagine they are sentient still.
>>12824750They are certainly sentient I would say lower beasts are most feral while things like the Hell Nobles, Mancubus, Spider Demon/Arachnotrons and Cyber Demon are actually intelligent like humans
>>12824750Based on interviews I've seen from Carmack in recent years, his said that based on the depth of video game stories of the era when he said it. His opinion is a lot different now given how good story-driven games have been in the 20 years after Classic Doom.
>>12824752>>12824753I guess at the end of the is I wonder, I mean what demon would be most datable, I could see archviles also being really really smart, seeing as the raise their dead companions, I could see of cacodemons being slightly smart, like maybe the intelligence of like a child, I see pain elemental being smarter, but Idk how I feel about pain elemental gf, that just sounds like a bad time.
>>12824759Oh for fuck's sake, dude...
>>12824759Arch Vile is probably among the smartest. I would say them or Barons would me the most datable and fuckable.
>>12824761>>12824762Hey man, I've always had a thing demons, And as a wise man once said. "Theirs a hole theirs a goal" Ehh I probably go with a hell knight their not as strong which means maybe their maybe more gentle?
>>12824759Cacos probably have the intelligence of a cat or very young child. Pain Elementals probably that of a dolphin.
>>12824764Dating a Hell Knight comes with considerably less prestige than a Baron
>>12824753You mean 33 years?
i always figured the demons were animalistic retards because all they do is charge at you, though i suppose they must have some intelligence if they can open doors
>>12824767I feel barons would be very very rough, they are some of the strongest demons in hell, I don't see them having any like gentleness in bed, I see the relationship being them seeing more like a object for sex, rather than relationship partner I mean maybe if you could somehow manage it, but I see hell knights despite the name being gentler and more passionate.
>>12824773You're going to get your heart broken but by all means continue to lie to yourself.
>>12824770I think the lower hierarchy ones are and the more elite monsters are more intelligent and tell the lower ones what to do
>>12824776I mean probably, well who would willing shack with, I can't imagine all the humanity being removed from them, we really don't know much about demons, really, besides my general browsing with occultism Its really hard to gauge how much is still there.
>>12824786All the humanity removed from what? The zombified monsters? I think most of it is. As for the demons I don't believe they were ever human, like it's not you die and either become and angel or a demon. They were spawned from Hell and have never had humanity. Hell Baron is what I am going with. They're buff and aristocrats. Probably got a massive dong. Arch Viles are too ugly.
>>12824792Well I wasn't implying gay relationships I'm sure not all of em are dudes, I guess my brain always thought people became the demons depending on how they were in life, Imagine those who were followers of the damn got some luxury, I the zombies I just saw them just being weak solders to broaden hells further assault I mean you don't really see civvies being mixed with the zombies only solders.
>>12824796We never see Barons or Knights with breasts. They may exist but more likely they are simply spawned.
4chan ain't beating the gooner allegations with this demon fucker talk lmao
>>12824797Ehh given the caco's and pains are females, plus they could be females, and just have flat chest, their are really muscular chicks with no tits,>>12824798Hey, I ain't gooning you goober, I mean I come /monster/ my first thought will always be. "I can fix her" Even if it seems imposable, I mean my waifu is like that. 100%
>>12824798you should have saw the princess peach thread a few months ago
>>12824796Yeah the Former Human, Former Seargant and Former Commando (Zombiemen, Shotgun Dudes and Heavy Weapons Dudes) were UAC soldiers in the facilities that were killed and zombified (or simply transformed) to bolster their assault force. The demons were spawned from the Icon of Sin at least in our dimension.The existence of Lost Souls implies that they are what happens to people when they go to Hell and the demons are simply the denizens who are spawned by Hell itself.
>>12824762based. Archviles are the most fuckable to me, extreme muscularity is a bit of a turnoff for me desu. nothing against folks who do find that hot
>>12824807I mean they look very boney, I mean they seem like they could carry a convo, but Idk like something with more meet on it, I'm sure theirs one anon who looked at a mancubus and said "Would" I'm not really a bbw guy, and I feel you be doing most the work, plus I don't see hugs being well very good with that.
This turn you on, Anon?
>>12824804The holes on cacos and pain elementals aren't pussies, they're anuses and air bladder orifices.
>>12824810On base attraction for me would be the Revenant but he seems to lack organs. Mannys are cute but the lack of hands is a deal breaker for me
>>12824818why would a air bladder have the perfect shape of a female vagaina anon, also in new doom its shown they have baby's, as theirs baby cacodemons.
>>12824823They multiply asexually
>>12824821would you call revenant's dudes I mean it's skeleton, I think gender doesn't matter, I mean but yeah boners is probably the best bet they seem fun and wild, I mean everone wants to fuck sans for a reason.
>>12824823That would imply the existence of male cacos, ergo the hole isn't a vag.
>>12824832what if the imps and cacos are female and the barons and cyberdemons are male
>>12824834That could be a thing, would that imply pinky's are female too, I mean despite how brutish they are, they are somewhat effeminate.
>>12824834Imps are twinks.
>>12824840>twinks...I mean given the imps I communed with that tracks. I'm surprised you didn't go with the midna route though, then again she's not really a demon.
>>12824825By their size and strength yes I would safely say they are male. Hell they may be repurposed Hell Noble skeletons once theyve been killed.
>>12824843>the midna routeGive them a full-size form that's several orders of magnitude better but gets ignored?
>>12824845Possibly, Then what demon would you inherently call female other than the spider mastermind and Arachnotrons?
>>12824845I think they are dead Arch Viles that have been brought back with cybernetics, losing their powers in the process. The skeleton size matches.
>>12824852What makes you think they are female? I dont believe there are any females at all.
You guys would've already been cancelled on DoomWorlds message boards for sexualizing and misgendering demons
>>12824856The spider mastermind is commonly referred as female, and the Arachnotrons are her children
>>12824860Perhaps. Besides her and the Hell Mother from Doom 64 I don't think there are any others. It's a sausage fest (and that's a good thing)
>>12824861Are you gay anon?
>>12824863No but I can appreciate beauty.
>>12824859oh no
>>12824861https://youtu.be/EyUfxX0D3R8
>>12824863Who wants some female demon yappin in your ear bitching about everything?
>>12824871succubi are hot too bad doom has none
>>12824875I'm kinda surprised they didn't even try to add a Succubus into nuDoom lol
>>12824879don't want an AO ratingstores still refuse to carry AO games
>>12824871You know, that's fair, but I still like the idea of there being female demons, plus imps are super cute lads little trouble makers who love playing pranks.
>>12824883Imps are masculine. They'll hold you down and pound your ass.
>>12824882You can do a succubus without being porn, they're in plenty of games like Diablo
>>12824887They are sill pretty small lads, just cause their built don't mean they pretty submissive, You just need to show initiative.
What the best game that was made on the Woldf3D engine? I personally think Rise of the Triad because it added so much but I also quite like Blake Stone and think it's underrated.
>>12824938Super Noah's Ark 3D
>>12824942Definitely not. ROTT intrigues me by just how much they were able to squeeze out of it. It does some wild shit especially in the Extreme ROTT expansion.
>>12824891They aren't fast enough to catch me
>>12824859Demonsbare faggots and deserve to be ridiculed and shot in the face. (This includes troonworld users)
>>12825053>DemonsbareWhat's that
>>12824468>ages 21 and upThat's as bad as disney adults getting mad that there is children at the park. If I could actually find this being sold I would buy two of them so my kid could have one too. Adults gatekeeping toys has got to be the gayest thing ever.
>>12825070A typo. "Demons are..."
>>12825070He was typing with one hand down his pants and Freudian slipped "demons bare faggots".
>>12825070He meant Demons bare assed
>>12823861>We had a year long almost nonstop shitstorm over an image that hadn't been paid attention to for the best part of a decade, sometimes it's better to just not have to deal with it.What image?
>>12824218Civvie shit on us specifically in the Shadow Warrior episode, so he at the very least lurks here. I wouldn't be surprised if he is one of the people here who spazzes out if he's mentioned.
>>12825103Which one? There's 4 videos and I don't remember that.
I tried looking for civvie's complaints in the archives a few times but i could never find the posts he was talking about on /vr/. Perhaps he read it on /v/ instead.
>>12825130he probably saw a plebbit screencap
>>12825134The guy is terminally online, you can tell by the jokes he makes so I am pretty confident he lurks here and /v/. He talked about ,some stuff we thought about Shadow Warrior/shooters and why we were wrong. He doesn't allow screencaps of twitter or other shit on his subreddit
meanwhile on redditi stopped going there regularly like 2 years ago and now i look at once a month ironicallygot a good laugh out of this
I don't care about any of this
>>12825148sorry
>>12825094The dumb imgur one about getting started with wads and shit.>>12825130>>12825134Yeah, it's doubtful he comes here of his own volition, but some anons get caught up on the idea that this is the centre of everything so all the important fuckwits must come here.>>12825146Ties in with the dumb fucks we've been getting lately, who just want easy, bland E1/E2 techbases forever.
>>12825153kek the strawpoll was the best part how both schizos kept resetting their ips to stuff the ballot and you could tell cause they were from third world
>>12824875Doom 64's female demon was going to be that apparently
>>12824103>face faggot horror>projectiles created fucks
>>12825103You gonna tell us which video he supposedly did this or what?
>>12825157Also the absolute lunatics it brought in who admitted they cared shit all about Doom, it's mods or anything retro, and were just here to fight the invisible, oppressive iron fist of the janitors or some shit like that.
>>12824534Once you beat Plutonia, some very high-quality .wads that are a small step up in difficulty from Plutonia are Scythe, Ancient Aliens, Valiant, and Eviternity I and II.
>>12825146Here is the difference between a MAN and a low-T beta cuck pussy.Low-T beta cuck pussy:>OH NOES OBTUSE DIFFICULTY SPIKE OH NOESMAN:>Aw, shit yeah. Now we're talking.
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>>12824863Anon is shocked to discover homosexualirlty on 4chan.
>>12823061Do you have a cnc mill or 3d printer or something?
>>12824641Don't know if I fully believe this, because I'm like 90% sure the Wolfenstein 3D manual both says to use a mouse once you've gotten more experienced with the game, and that both Romero and Carmack used a mouse at the time.
Any wolf 3D mods to swap the nazis for jews?
>>12825276Don't know? The guy said that he could beat Doom on Ultra-Violence, of course he's bullshitting.
>>12824641>he told me some stuff about his personal life he should write a memoir aboutI know a little about his personal life that didn't make it into his memoir, from someone he worked with on Daikatana.Not my place to say shit about it though.I'm surprised he put some stuff in it though, like shooting out windows in a trailer park with a .22. But a lot of his personal life is left out (tbf that's not why people would buy the book), probably to protect his family's privacy.
>>12824887You've never heard the descriptor "impish"? Maybe not in their depiction in Doom but imps are generally whimsical and fey little niggas.
>>12824683>the other guy who's trying to sell a meme coin off doom seems like assholeHe's probably not. And it sounds like he's actually trying to turn it into something. He hasn't been sued yet, but I'm going to guess he'll change the game name from doom as it gets further because it sounds like a lawsuit.Curious to see the result anyway.
>>12825070I dunno, Ivan's just being a fucking retarded ESL as usual.
>REKKR? more like SHITTR!>I'm talking about FULLY, TOTALLY DIFFERENT levels, deathmatch levels, per level dude! Yes, that makes it a megawad! You won't see any of that shit on SHITTR!>Does SHITTR have shootable evil eyes? NO. It's a groundbreaking never-before-seen feature found only in SIGIL. I DID IT FIRST, BABY!
>>12825341>Yes, that makes it a megawad!Some of the Doom wiki fuckwits really did try to redefine what a megawad was to include Sigil, lol.
>>12825345>redefine what a megawad was to include SigilHope they were unsuccessful. Stunts like that do nothing but chip away at the foundation that makes terms like "episode" and "megawad" mean anything at all other than mere vibes.
>>12825267I am a machinist by trade and I've been hitting mastercam really hard lately because I want to level up. I have 15 years XP on machines/setup/tool making/repairing
>>12825341>anon is dusting off his rekkr shit posting folderWe only play the hits!>>12825345if you made 8 sp maps and 8 mp maps would it be a megawad or no?sounds like a grey area, but unless you're filling out the entire wad with a full 36/32 maps, there's little reason to use separate deathmatch arenas
>>12825362Cool.I worked as a machinist for maybe 4-5 years (until I got laid off due to covid - why make airplane parts when no one is flying?) So I got myself a small cnc mill that I use for little projects here and there.A quake logo/quad damage would be a fun project.
>>12825367>if you made 8 sp maps and 8 mp maps would it be a megawad or no?No, not even if they were separate maps, which they weren't for Sigil.
>>12825367>We only play the hits!>September 29th 1984, 23:54, at the school, I was never here, I was here>April 14th 1988, 19:32, I beat the last level of Shitstain the Slayer after the full version finally came through the mail>May 23, 2000, 12:40, all is lost>July 10, 2018, 15:17, KEKKR is released using my ideas>September 29th 1984, 23:54, I'm back at the school again, J.C. applies thermite to the window>September 30th 1984, 00:10, I watch the fat kid get stuck and open the window, I've been here before>approximately February 8th -13771035825, null:null, J.C is through the window, the fat kid is stuck, J.C is coding the renderer, J.C is breaking down the door, J.C is going to space, SHITTR must not be>KNEEL
>>12825379Really? Why not?
>>12823575He's a shitcunt, be he goes into the business side of game development before getting into the game itself, and you get to see how the tech behind different games blended to make a new different one or how office politics fuck everything up. I don't know of any other who does that, it's always either full game or full business.>>12824657>Probably also helped that he was a good-lookin' fella with awesome hair lolFuck off, Romero. Go make doom 2 wads.
>>12825413For Sigil that was his entire gimmick, as far as shoving DM maps in to double the numbers, it's just shameless padding.
>>12824319One of my all times favourite.If I could buy a shotgun, I'd buy one like that
>>12824319Good sound and damage output, only a slighlty behind the DOOM original shotgunI like Duke and your Duke posts, so I must ask everytimeWhat map?
>>12825413nta, but wasn't the term "megawad" supposed to mean more than 20 maps, or exactly 32 maps?
Its a get drunk and watch zeromaster videos kind of weekend
>>12825341I dunno why but wherever I see some based REKKRposting, it makes someone upset for absolutely no reason.
>>12825367>if you made 8 sp maps and 8 mp maps would it be a megawad or no?I’d still call it just a ‘wad’. It’s a weird gradient to judge, but a ‘megawad’ to me has to be closer to a fuller replacement of an iwad’s levels.
>>12825487I thought it was 15+>>12825517I would think so too, but there are megawads of just mp maps too aren't there?
>>12825501His new Hexen run is pretty cool.
today i am going to make 4 pounds of chicken then play plutonia wish me luckthere is no possible way to record a demo of a continuous playthrough right? if i want a recording i just gotta cap it the hard way? i'd rather just record the demos and go back and make the .mp4 later but you gotta do what you gotta do
>>12825548>I would think so too, but there are megawads of just mp maps too aren't there?That would at least make sense as they're all got the same purpose, It would be weird to have thirteen DM maps and then bundling in two throwaway single player maps to make up the numbers, you'd be wondering who the fuck they were there for.
>>12825589oh, i think i figured it outyou can't do it from console you have to do it with command line optionsi found instructions for dsda and i'm looking for zdoom right now think i'm good
>>12825295Well there is the version thats playable on Machigames' sequel.
I love Doom and I hate REKKR
>>12825785We know, Romero.
I hate Doom and I love REKKR
I love both Doom and REKKR
Rec me some Quake 2 packsWhere do I look for q2 content even? I know there's some at "idgames2"
>>12825941Finally someone with some sense.
>>12825785>>12825809>>12825941I love REKOOM!
>>12825373Fuck yea it would. I'm gonna make mine into a keychain
>>12825508it could be just one autistic romerofag who can't take a simple joke, or it's romero himself
>>12826047>or it's romero himselfI wouldn't put it past him to do a Tommy Tallarico.
>>12826047Sorry, bud. Good old John is busy pumping gas.
>>12825508It surely complements the "Hope you're doing well" and "Mmm" posting.
>>12825508There is one anon who throws an absolute shitfit about it any time it shows up. Even Revae was a good sport and he has someone post a drawing of Romero raping him before
>>12825589why usual per-level UV Max demos?segmented d2all is of course possible but a little bit annoying to record (you need to seek to the end of the demo and press "join demo" button each time you want to continue recording)
>>12826094*why not
>>12826094i'm not trying to uv-max or pistol start i've never played plutonia beforei want to record demos of me playing blind dying over and over for the lulzi've been told plutonia wasn't designed around pistol start anyway
>>12825116Pro Wang #2, 3:39. Said we were horrible ugly people who would die alone for saying Shadow Warrior on the hardest difficulty required memorization of the enemy placement.https://youtu.be/SKNV7MbZLRE
GOOD AFTERNOON MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN: SCREENSHOT SATURDAY! WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? Maps, mods, sprites? Now's a good time to post that shit!
>>12826108PLUTONIA is very playable pistol startalso dsda-doom has it's own "dsdademo" format which allows you to use saves and rewinds in demosfirst demo:dsda-doom -iwad PLUTONIA.WAD -cl 4 -skill 4 -dsdademo -record mydemodsda-doom -iwad PLUTONIA.WAD -cl 4 -skill 4 -dsdademo -recordfromto mydemo mydemo-part2
>>12825485>What map?sewer.map, a map by Duke dev that didnt make into the gamehttps://msdn.duke4.net/hotsewer.php
>>12826117restructuring the layout of the map I work on. You guys have no idea how much pain in the ass it is to make stuff that its not on the editor's grid
>>12826131i'll get back to as my skill improvesi like playing uv -fast better than pistol starts and uv -fast pistol start is just too hard for me
>>12826109It doesn't require it but it certainly helps. Launching a bunch of grenades ahead in new areas much like dynamiting in Blood is a valid strategy too. What an odd thing to get butthurt about.
>>12826002Try it with this:https://www.mediafire.com/file/d50k51jv2e1hzlf/rekkdumb.wad/file
Hey I have question what would you guys recommend my first doom mod to be while I'd love to make a weapon pack it is very very tricky what would you recommend try first, I don't wanna do mapping never infested me.
>>12826237i thought weapon modding was super easy
>>12825589Baste. What kind of chicken?>>12826237I guess Zero Tolerance. There was a patch made some time back to make it run on newer GzD/UzD.
>>128230494:28 https://files.catbox.moe/jb9c8o.lmp
>>12826237Oh wait, you want to MAKE a mod. There's a lot, though I'd suggest that any weapon you replace should be replaced with something that either fulfills the same role, or is at least similarly useful.
>>12826237Replace Chaingun with a StG-44
>>12826237Make red pillars with pumping heart fly and shoot bfg balls at you
>>12826264This, but also replace the pistol with a kar 98k.And replace the rocket launcher with a panzerschreck.And replace the plasma with some german flamethrower.And replace the shotguns with nothing, but keep the slot 3 empty. And replace the BFG with doomguy just yelling hitler quotes or sieg heiling and after a delay all monster take damage (just like the BFG, but without the ball, buff the tracers to compensate).
Is there a Twin Peaks themes wad?
>>12826260>>12826264>>12826285So you guys are suggesting do something simple don't go too crazy like I have been in the past, just simple weapon replacements, Well I still have my sally mod I could work on replace weapons using her.
>>12826253i tried something newfried it in a pan with olive oil and made a chicken sammichcame out way better than baking itdoc says i need to stop eating bacon cheeseburgers
>>12826290Someone is working on a Red Room wad or was. Various ones use the theme music and Death Tormention 3 has a map named Twin Peaks
>>12825976Remaster or otherwise?
>>12826305OriginalI play on yquake2 port
>>12826298i had no problems making modifications to the weapons in jizzydoom and dehacked doesn't seem much harderhttps://github.com/rheit/zdoom/tree/master/wadsrc/static/zscript/doomall i did was read the source code of this and some other weapon mods and i was having a good time. the only time i got stumped was trying to figure out how to adjust starting weapons but i figured it out
>>12826298I mean, yeah. So you get to play around with dehacked or decorate or whatever you wanna go with and get used to it.But notice you also get a theme if you go with >>12826285. That's all germany ww2 weapons, plus some funny cause no shotgun. If you then want to take all that and make a full wad with the theme, you'd already have the weapons done.Next up you do the monsters and by that point you'd have a full gameplay mod.
>>12826298Well you wanna go crazy then? Idk make rocket launcher replacement that shoots out Bushs baked beans and is a giant can of said beans and when you shoot it it says "Mmm thinkin about those beans" from the Facebook meme post which you'll have to record and imitate yourself or have AI do it because that was a text based post some old man made and not audio or video and also make the monsters burst into shit with a fart sound when it hits
>>12826290
>>12826304thanks i'll look into it>>12826318is that build engine?
>>12826324>is that build engine?yeah its from Ion Fury
>>12826338oh cool, whats the context of the red room being in the game? i might have to actually play it
>>12826358a secret area, nothing more.
>polar bear in Antarctica
>>12826371I wouldn't mind being stuck in the red room with Shelly if you know what i mean
>>12826316Well lets say I want use 3d model of beans how easy is that to put into the game?
>>12826117I've been putting together some more small detail shit:>Armor strength is represented by a little icon to the left of your armor>Keys are replaced>After getting the upgrade to charge your default shot, its icon gets wrapped with a white bracket (may be too subtle though)>Added little visible pips under the missile icon to show what the player currently has available
>>12826393I always wanted to make a single weapon mod, that you just continuously upgrade along the way. I saw a energy pistol mod that did that infinite ammo that gets stronger, based off the amount of kills I think.
sorry for my autism but i was playing unreal 1 and when i got to the third level(dig.unr) with the modern patches the song started playing from a different section, is this a glitch or intended behavior of this gay patch, i am angre
>>12826398I love shit like that, personally. Though I think if you were to make a weapon that upgrades from kills, I'd reset it between levels. That or have it slowly degrade in strength when not in combat.
>>12826109>well AKSHUALLY you have to enter every room with the assumption that it has an enemy not to learn every enemy placement individually DUHokay?
>>12826402wat?
>>12826408How easy do you think it be able to do that, I think degrading in strength would be the way to go, like a energy bar. That fills up and lets you have access to more options while making it stronger as you go along.
>>12826420That would be pretty damn easy to do, Anon. You'd just need to make it so slain enemies give the player a stack of token items, and have an ACS script running in the background that slowly drains that from the inventory. You should also be able to set up some ACS stuff to give the player those token items on kill so you don't have to make custom monsters.Then it's just a matter of making the weapon's DECORATE code jump to new states and do extra stuff depending on how many of those tokens the player has.Then you could take it a step further and do shit like freezing the drain for a moment when making kills, or making some of the ammo/item pickups do that, to keep them relevant during play.
>>12825976i just google the names off this playlist lol https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLS6wceInCQUvqgMXA0RRJ5apZ4o8OUZIE
>>12826117hey dudes I missed the last few threads busy working on updates. Hope you're all doing well, this next Slipgate Rangers update is going to be a fucking banger.
>>12826298Doing just a basic set of weapons as a first one is a good starter, yes. Learn all the basic functions.
>>12826434Yeah sounds like a easy time now what gun to use I'm thinking pistol with a sifi feel, problem is I'm not very good at mirroring the doom style with my art.
>>12826303Nice. Never did like bacon on cheeseburgers.I got a leftover lump of beef in the freezer and I'm turning it into... Something.
>>12826453>problem is I'm not very good at mirroring the doom style with my art.Who says you need to?
>>12826418idk how to explain it better and also don't know what's uneligible about it, but basically i had the game back in the day and the music that plays in this level starts playing from a different point in this oldunreal version and it pisses me off,it also loops back to this section again, the correct part of the music only plays in the next map, fuck this, have a good night
I've beaten Chthon, completed Dawn, and went back for the head thing. Nightmare Machine wasn't that hard on max difficulty I guess.Is it worth it to go through the loop again ? While I kept spoilers to a minimum, it seems it's just another boss fight, and I wonder if it is good enough to justify playing some of these maps twice again on B.Nightmare.
I picked up random pack from idgames2 called "aftermath"
>>12826446
>>12825976The Chaos Quake 2 mod used to be fun, though it pales in comparison to their later Chaos UT and Chaos UT2004 mods.
>>12826456well sure, but it is something fairly iconic, but yeah that's fair, well what pistol should I base it off of?
so apparently sigma touch (Unreal Tournament) is a thing nowdoes UT99 have an active NA playerbase or is it totally dead like q1/q3
>>12826491That all comes down to personal preference, Anon. You're the artist here, pick something you think is cool.
>>12826117Got this guy mostly functional in game, though the animations are rough. Hoping to get a map playable by the end of the month so the rest of its animations will probably be delayed until all the work to rebuild the graphics file is done.
>>12826492only pugs on goycord
>>12826492UT99 has a list server replacement so it should be doing fine still, not so sure about 2k3/2k4.
>>128265042k4 is cool because of onslaught but it would probably be better backported into 99 weaps and physics
>>12826504basically i wasted my money on quad touch, all i've done is play cpma bots when i wanted to get back into quakeworldonce i got my config set up i went looking for games and there was nothing in my ping zone at alli hear there are some really good bots for qw now maybe i should look into it
>>12826506have at it https://www.moddb.com/mods/xvehicles
>>12826512i will tolerate goycord if i can find people to play this with
>>12826453There's always the option to spritebash something off realm667 or somewhere, edit shit until you figure out how to do it yourself.It's how a lot of people like Kegan got going.
>>12826508https://github.com/DrLex0/quake-frogbots these are alright for ffacpma is like dead dead btw even in eu
>>12826518was it ever alive? the game only had 17 players
>>12826520that's more than literally 0
>>12826521it's an old memeanyone here from ESReality
>>12826258>>128230493:57 https://files.catbox.moe/3ih3jt.lmp
>>12826161>how much pain in the ass it is to make stuff that its not on the editor's gridSurely there are ways to convert Doom maps to Build? Would it not just be easier to make a map in UDB and only touch Mapster for placing entities and setting sector flags and whatnot?
>>12826552>Surely there are ways to convert Doom maps to Build?there are but its a different pain in the ass. Lots of limitations and I would have to spend a lot of time fixing issues that would pop up after the conversion.>Would it not just be easier to make a map in UDB and only touch Mapster for placing entities and setting sector flags and whatnot?only if youre making a Doom map. Its retarded, the map that should feel and work as it was designed for Build engine cannot be made in other engine that does support the most important features. Also I personally have 0 experience with UDB
>>12826570>>12826552why hasn't someone made a modern utility for build that is easy to use like udb or trenchbroom seriously wtf.
>>12826570*that does not supportI have trouble nailing down my point but simply put THIS cannot be simply drawn in UDB. Look at how lines overlap each other. Its a top down view of a house with 4 layers of geometry, a roof, 1st and 2nd floors, and basement. They all occupy the same space
>>12826572Probably just because Doom on modern sourceports is already so much more convenient to mod and map for and can do pretty much everything Build can anyway - to the point where people just make conversion mods for Build engine games rather than modding those games.
>>12826572this gonna sound like a big load of cope, but mapster is fine for what its made for. Its just needs that final touch of QoL that we never got.People who dont know the deal seem to think that Build games operate the same way as Doom/IDtech because both are 2.5, both use sector based structure. Its not so simple as it looks, you dont draw static places, you make living ares that can be moved, stretched, changed completely with some magic. they can overlap other rooms. The what would you can shitty editor has set such a high bar of WhatYouSeeIsWhatYouGet that any attempt to make 'modern' editor failed miserably, was dropped by its dev, or got shat on by the community for missing the point
>>12826598>any attempt to make 'modern' editor failed miserablycase in point, most recent one showed up a few days ago:https://forums.duke4.net/topic/13094-duke-builder/
>>12826117This is my room. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
We need vibeslopped hyper modernized map editors for 30 year old games that let me drag my benis across a touch screen and generate a whole map around it.
>>12826629if there was a doom wad editor for android i'd do stuffi tried to get it running in WINE and i was dealing with a bug where the mouse would disconnect when you used the keyboard and the keyboard would disconnect when you used the mouse so i gave up fast
>>12826629Some fucker already tried to tie that shit into Slade, nobody wanted it or the map he knocked out with it.>>12826641There was a version of Slade for Android somewhere, dunno how up to date it was.
>>12826651i found it a long time ago but that project was abandoned due to lack of interest and was never fully ported :(the problem is the more popular fork of WINE than winlator is chink shit so i'm reluctant to put it on my phone
>>12826443thanks>>12826463this one was pretty good
whats a Quake map to play? i've only played vanilla. Don't know where to start
>>12826705ZerstorerWarpspasmContract RevokedArcane Dimensions
>>12826705Violent Rumble
>>12826724>>12826727thanks, will check out
>>12826621Looks nice.
Might make a Twin Peaks map
Tried to play QBJ3 on like 10 different maps already and all of them were absolute dogshit. How the fuck do you put so much effort into designing everything besides the actual maps? It is either really poorly thought out slaughtershit, plain boring walking simulator or a huge maze with stupid jumping puzzles you need to savescum through.It is all just so tiring.
>posters lose interest in Dawn, back to QBJ3 shitpostingPost screens.
>>12826724I liked Tainted, it would play nicely after the official episodes I think. Stuff like Honey and Terra are also recommended. Some people say Alkaline is on a similar level to Arcane Dimensions but for techbase. I do not agree, a lot of Alkaline maps are kinda trash, but do try it out.
>>12826117Started another map I aim to release mid October.Some slaughter and psychotic combat involved.
>>12826780Matt Eldrydge?
>>12826782No. That's my thrice removed cousin.
>>12826780Ur mums bed is my slaughtermap lmao
>>12826780>psychotic combatI like slaughter, but I genuinely don't know what this part means.
>>12826780maybe add some blue techbase computers to make it less grayslop
>Play AV cause of that one anon posting webms a couple threads back>It's really funthere's just something about using the super shotgun vs. big hordes of low-tier demons that tickles my brain and this wad has tons of it so far
>>12826791>thrice removedWill he endure *the* fourth final solution?
>>12826761Yeah, it's pretty awful. I doubt many here would recommend it.
>>12826764?
>>12825480You can. It's a Winchester 1300, if I recall right.
>>12826727oh cool its a /vr/ mapset. I'll play this first
>>12826857Yeah, but since I don't live in Murrica, I can't modify the gun 'cuz it's illegal here.
>>12826857It was a Tootsietoy Dakota cap gun
>>12826872when i was a kid toy guns didn't have faggy orange tips :(
>>12826825I can only recommend the "resurfaced" maps because I haven't played any of the others, though it seems like that's when the mod really gets mixed so I may have dodged bullets.
>>12826872That's Doom
>>128268731992 is when the government started requiring it. They removed them for the Doom guns of course. To this day you can generally just pop them off, theyre usually put on after the rest of the toy is made though nowadays they try to make the whole thing bright colored to avoid that. Here are the other Doom toy guns. The plasma rifle part at the bottom was just one section of massive Rambo M60 toy that broke down into several parts and shot darts. The laser pistol was mirrored and combined to make the BFG.
https://youtu.be/ErLhj5AWS5M?si=dbBC_6lCIaHIA5tr
>>12826572Because Buildfags are the battered wives of Mapster32. You either condition yourself to pretend it doesn't fucking suck, or you don't map for these games.If tomorrow, someone released new and modern software for mapping in Build, I think you'd start to see an increase in people willing to try it. The mindset, however, is that it's not necessary to do, and people will fucking fight you on this.I get that some level of gatekeeping to ward off shitters and undesirables is valuable, but at the same time, if you constrict bloodflow too much, a community just slowly dies instead.
>>12826876i wish adrian would come out of retirement and do his 2d scanned model art style without the constraints of old DOS machines and see what he can do with modern techapparently he just focuses on regular art now and not vidya
>>12826876Oh my bad. Yeah I actually think the Duke shotgun is cooler to be honest.
>>12826890I was always impressed with how well Adrian's art skills translated into the pixel art constraints of the era. Tom was doing the art for their games until Adrian came along and not only could Tom come up with ideas and Adrian could sketch an amazing art piece based off of, he could also make awesome pixel art even when not using a digitized image which is really a whole other beast.
>>12826889>If tomorrow, someone released new and modern software for mapping in Build, I think you'd start to see an increase in people willing to try it. The mindset, however, is that it's not necessary to do, and people will fucking fight you on this.if people who keep crying about bad tools got a modern editor for these games they'd try making a map and then realize that their knowledge of Doom mapping means fucking nothing in this field. An overdetailed labyrinth or slaughterwad sloppa wont fly good there.
>>12826761Babby's first jam? Of course they have mostly shit maps since there is not any skill requirement to participate. Everyone can. If you want Q1 stuff with good maps, look for stuff made by closed team or single mapper.
>>12826894i know john carmack and romero are probably never gonna be in the same room again outside of a funeral but what about adrian carmack? maybe romero's gameplay and adrian's nightmare dimension are all we need to salvage modern singleplayer fps
>>12826871Well, you could probably still get it on a hunting license in most countries, with a regular stock.They're pretty nice, I hear, very easy to pump.>>12826873I think they're a reasonable enough compromise. Kids want a cool and realistic looking toy, but the cap generally also makes it obvious from a distance that it's not a real weapon.I'm more upset at when they require a full bright paintjob. Let the kids dream a LITTLE.
>>12826895Ah yes, Doom is nothing but labyrinths and slaughter, you're totally not betraying your seething and proving my point.
>>12826897Romero and Carmack have made up. Carmack has appeared on Zoom calls on Romeros channel along with and Adrian. Carmack says he regrets how quick he was to wanna shit can people back then like Hall and Romero and said he'd have done things differently if he could go back. That said Carmack is never gonna work on a shooter with them again. I don't know how much if at all Adrian has kept up with modern game art techniques. Probably not at all.
>>12826901There were several cases in the mid to late 80s of kids getting shot by cops with toy guns, that's why the feds started advising the companies to make them less realistic in the late 80s and outright made it law in 92
>>12826902>Doom is nothing but labyrinths and slaughtercome on then, what is it? Be honest to yourself. I would even argue that modern mapping scene devolved from its origins in vanilla Dooms. An interesting, somewhat lived in environments of base game look off now in comparison to a bunch of arenas and monster closets that are the common crutch for any modern mapper trying to get that cacoward
>>12826903>Adrian has kept up with modern game art techniquesthat's the point, do a retro art style but in 4k 32 bit HDRthe gore would be way more realistic than any amount of 3d polygon particle nonsense can do
>>12826903Does he need to? The guy makes seriously good looking art, it doesn't need to be some AAAA slopfest with a staff of 600 devs, it just has to have reasonable enough fidelity that he can work his magic.Ask Kevin Cloud if he wants in on one last ride as well, he was the left nut of iD Software's artcock.
>>12826905I know, and I think the colored caps are a good enough solution.
>>12826906You sound like the guy who bitches and moans that cacawards are just cacaward bait, instead of looking anywhere else.
>>12826906a good doom map has well placed:>keys>secrets>ambushes>difficulty progression (a map that throws a cybie at you when you have nothing i feel is shit)the best doom maps are also somewhat nonlinear where a secret might get you a shortcut (e1m1 as easy as it is a great map)there's also aesthetic value to maps you know if they don't look cool it's kinda boring sometimes
>>12826912It helps. Making the whole thing fruity colors as the majority of ones in stores today are is the best solution.
>>12826906>only plays cacoward wads
>>12826909He works at Nightdive now. I am sure theyd be down to let those guys make a game.
after reading up on what adrian has been up to, apparently him and romero actually did try to make a new fps in 2016 but it got shit cannedfucking corpo executives
>>12826924Blackroom looked like absolute slop. Just because someone had 'it' 30 years ago doesn't mean they do today.
>>12826873Back then there weren't too many imps using toy guns to try and mug people. The orange tip at least makes them also have to steal some paint before doing that.
>>12826929Some guy robbed a liquor store with an NES zapper painted black lol
>>12826915It's pretty funny to see that Anon thinking there's nothing applicable between the two.>>12826924>>12826928They cancelled the crowdfunder for it themselves really early into it, probably hoping some publisher would pick it up instead, I think they also put out a "demo" that was just some Doom level that didn't really relate to it at all.
>>12826915>(a map that throws a cybie at you when you have nothing i feel is shit)That's because you've been conditioned to believe that every enemy must be killed the moment it's encountered. Just run away.
>>12826942Also feels like a jab at Ancient Aliens.
>>12826905It was referenced in Die Hard even.>i shot a kid!>gun looked real enoughAnd tamir rice was shot by cops just 10... 12 years ago because he was threatening passerbys with an airsoft gun.Anyway. I want Duke's shotgun too.And a devastator if I can find one.
The Cyber Demon should've been the big bad final boss of Doom. He is the big motherfucker of the series, the most iconic. The Spider Mastermind could never
>>12826915a lot of today's stuff goes into pure gameplay and aesthetics without taking care of anything else. Sometimes that can work out, often it doesnt.You want exploration and keyhunt? you get a grofied fetch quest instead. Sometimes a key is just there for the quota. Want interesting secrets? Shoot a tiny barely noticeable button in some corner to get a medkit, because disrupting mapper's defined balance is a no no. Ambushes fall into two common pitfalls - they either everywhere, making their novelty wear off, or are overblown, which is a slippery slope into a meatgrinder maps. Difficulty progression is a weird one, a lot of wads start off great and progressively turn to shit. I cant name a single wad with a satisfying finale.I just want Doom. Not whatever is today's stuff. This was a demon shooting game set on Mars's colonies. How did it all turn into these random adventures in every possible setting. its all so out of place to me.
>>12826953He sort of was in the sense that he's the final boss of the shareware and for many, many people back in the day the shareware WAS Doom. They never bought the full version and we're satisfied with beating Knee Deep in the Dead and saying they beat the game. They were obviously very proud of him as that is why he was made the boss of the shareware episode to ensure everyone saw him and hoping it hooked them to buy the game. But yeah I occasionally have talked to people who aren't really gamers/into Doom who recall playing it back in the day and remember the Cyber Demon as the boss of the game.
>>12826958>He sort of was in the sense that he's the final boss of the sharewareThose were Barons, anon.
>>12826959Kek got em I do agree with the overall sentiment about the Cyberdemon thoughbeit.
so instead of play plutonia i decided to do something elsei'm playing sunlust on i'm too young to die, but -fast is still enabled. want to beat this shit without save scummingi'm having a good time. if the second level is way too easy i'll enable pistol starts but i'm kinda chunked
>>12826959You're right my bad.
>>12826962They absolutely ruined him on Doom 2016. Thankfully they brought back an almost 1:1 of him as the Tyrant in Doom Eternal.
nooooooooooooo
>>12826968Gazing at his bunghole I see
>>12826968https://vocaroo.com/17jPUNgXIi17
>>12826969i got chunked to 6% by a heavy weapons dude and couldn't find any health only armor
can anyone show me a clip of how the hell to get the secrets on sunlust map01 - i can strafe jump and bhop but i don't understand doom movementif i could grab that blue armor and whatever is in the hidden compartment by the switch (i can hear the door open but can't get there before it closes) it might help
>>12826982>i can hear the door open but can't get there before it closesStraferun.
>>12826982https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAP01:_Chasing_Suns_(Sunlust)#Secrets>i can hear the door open but can't get there before it closesYou just have to run fast enough (pressing both strafe and forward usually ups the speed a notch, but I don't think it's necessary)
>>12826968
>>12823368Abyss with his ost is good.
>>12826982The BFG you can see early on is there to fuck with you, you can't get it.
>>12826989i'm trying and i suck at it are there any mouse motions you need to doi have jumping disabled but maybe i could install a strafe jumping mod kek
>>12826884Also not listed:>Pistol: A squirt gun spray painted black.>Rocket Launcher: The barrel of a plastic gun from a G. I. Joe action figure.>Chainsaw: A real Eager Beaver chainsaw that John Romero still owns.>Fists (and all hand/arm sprites on every other weapon): Kevin Cloud.
>>12827001>mouse motionsNope, you just hold W and either A or D. Since you gotta be holding that, you steer with the mouse but that's it.>strafe jumping mod
>>12827004
>>12823440>>12823464Reznor was so occupied with the tour as the new album that he had no time to work on quake 2, plus q2 development changed a lot, and he would had done the most industrial hard tecnobanger ever as he did before and after, the thing is that trent also heard sonic mayhem as jeehun demo disks, and thanks to both quake mission packs as auake and 3 got its music.And again, trent doesnt hate q2 or even q3, it was time with the band as tour, and he trusted sonic mayhem to fill for him, and here we are.I still wish that he would had done it, but it would be obviously similar to sonic mayhem in q3a.
>>12827017>he would had done the most industrial hard tecnobanger ever as he did beforeI would hardly describe Quake 1s music as industrial techobanger. It's soi atmospheric
i hate all the NIN references in Quake and Doom ep4. Its like when a friend tries to push music on you but you're not interested at all
>>12827014Thanks for posting the pic, bro. Doomwiki doesn't have that for some reason and I'm too tired to comb through xitter to find a ~2 year old thread to find it again.
>>12827028You're retarded
another excellent thread>>12827017here's something i've always wondered. who do you think gave who more exposure? i found out about NIN from playing Quake, but did anyone find about Quake and Doom from being an NIN fan? who got the better deal?
>>12827036t. Trent Reznor
>>12827028The original Doom soundtrack is full with music cribbing off of Romero's personal CD collection, but you draw the line at a hidden band logo?
>>12827028>>12827036
more like Nine Inch Nails on a chalkboard lmao>>12827043Yes, even the SIGIL TM in Sigil is extremely cringe and at that level. Romero may have nice hair but he has an insecurity about him and its obvious. >PLS LIKE WHAT I LIKE LMAOThat is Romero. I like Buckethead but Romero acts like he's some high class music connoisseur. It doesn't fit. Very smug and self righteous behavior
>>12827037>i found out about NIN from playing QuakeSame, but I was disappointed to find that he does emo buttrock instead of more atmospheric stuff.
>>12826963>having a crosshair that bigwhy? is your eyesight that bad?
>>12827058yeah whats with that looks like its part of the map. Its corridor wide lol. Maybe he's Japanese. Keep him off the road
NIN sucks, simple as. Only there because. Carmack was a NIN simp. Sonic Mayhem mogs em. Dooms soundtrack mogs em too.
>>12826915One of the hardest parts in my map is at the beginning, the difficulty rising gradually is banal and predictable, there's no reason the difficulty should increase linearly, fluctuating difficulty through the map is better design
>>12827052My bad, I didn't know you were retarded, I should have known.
>>12827061Meatheads cannot understand atmospheric/ambient music. You need the constant overstimulation of chugga chugga riffs because your brain is more Grug-like
>I HURT MYSELF TODAY
>>12827075It fits retro FPS better than anything else. It is synonymous with the genre. Putting soified ambient shit in there doesn't fit.
>>12826968Average zdoom default experience
>>12826793Didn't take you for a necrophile, anon.>>12826797Think insane bullshit scenarios that somehow aren't sadistic or things you'd see in Going Down. My first idea for this is a caco cloud that gets obliterated by a line of cybers, then the cybers get crushed and then viles start to pour into all those caco corpses.>>12826807Nah. Not yet at least, I like how picrel looks and there will be more color variation in the map itself.>>12826814No mercy for skinwalkers.
>>12827058oh, i'm this fagi have a usb hub, a headset, and an ethernet cable nowi wanted to get a monitor but there's 3 problemsA) A USB-C port can't do 120hzii) i had to buy all this home decor shit like a new garbage can and curtains and also some clothes cause i got fat so my credit cards are maxed again3) paying $4.20/gal for gas didn't help it cost $75 to fill from Eat the start of the year i wanted to get a gabecube for black friday but it's way too expensive and while i'm not doing so bad i'm charging food to a credit card like last year i'm still living paycheck to paychecki never left this thread, i just stopped posting screenshotsi made the crosshair myself. huge crosshairs are a thing in high level quake, i would still use it even if i had a monitorbefore you tell me to go to goodwill again, my phone is way more powerful than your potato. once i get my monitor, i'm going to take my other old phone that i used to take this pic, root it, and put linux on it, and then i should be able to play retro steam games againi don't really mind my situation. i just wish there was a decent IDE for android so i could do some computer programming
>>12826918we play gold, not mold.
>>12826109See this is one of the reasons he causes friction. The 'Pro' label on his videos is sometimes played tongue in cheek and then other times like here it is framed as completely serious but his gameplay is far from being pro. He's not as good at shooters as he clearly thinks he is. He especially bitches about backtracking in stuff like Hexen and he blatantly save scums, he doesn't even hide it.
>>12827093We've come a full circle
>>12827096I reiterate my statement. He dislikes certain genres yet only peruses the places where those are catered to. He is his own problem.
>>12827104i was talking about my setup with someone else and i'm pretty sure the screen is still way bigger than the tiny CRT i had for my 386 wang computer with no sound card and the window as small as possible to get good fps
>>12827061HAHAHAHAHAHAH LOL THIS NIGGA IS SERIOUS LOL WTF
>>12827093You sound like a loser. You should be focused on other things, not games.
>>12827052Sorry john romero fucked your gf or whatever bro, get over it
>>12827136i started collecting neetbux over turboautism and depression and now i have severe nerve failure and a really bad shoulder, i can't do anything to improve my situation except get high and play doom to kill time when i'm not highplaying doom is kind of retirement for me. i stopped playing the game in either 2009 or 2010 and picked it back up a few years ago
>>12827142>i started collecting neetbux over turboautism and depressionHow do I go about doing this? Do I need to have a diagnosis from doctors first?
>>12827129NIN is sissy feels music. You only like it because Carmack simped for Reznor.
>>12827147i don't want to the derail the thread too hard but if you live in the US you need to end up in the hospital over and over and get fired from multiple jobs before they'll accept you for autismi wish i could work but i really can't even handle the stress of working 1 day a week without sperging outalmost ended up homeless but that's ancient history
>>12827037>i found out about NIN from playing Quake, but did anyone find about Quake and Doom from being an NIN fan? who got the better deal?Very very few, I imagine. There may have been a couple of NIN hardcore fans that played Quake due to the music but they more than likely just got the soundtrack on its own. And they were undoubtedly already aware of Quake.
>>12827151Oh dang. I don't wanna crash out that hard. Ok.
>>12827052Not a Buckethead fan. Even Slash said that he's a technician, he's technically amazing but that he's not a 'rock guy'.
>>12827157most of the programming skills i have are obsolete but are still useful for cybersecurity (analyzing malware at the kernel level) but i'm too much of a drug addicted fuckup to get a security clearanceif ww3 goes crazy i'm unironically gonna apply for a job at the NSA and fight russian iranian and chinese scum in the cyber warfront cause they're gonna need everyone who knows how to run a terminal
>>12827169I doubt geopolitics will get that heated anytime soon.
>>12827159Amen, Slash is ascended above nerd scales. Tell them to compose a November Rain church solo. P.S They can't
How did this thread go so quick? Gay antics aside
>>12827198Ebb and flow. It was slow as fuck for a while during summer.
>>12827198we love doom
>>12827198Bantz are fine. Pure people mapping talk and screenshots get boring. It's a retro FPS general not purely mapping.
>>12827198The debate on which demons are most datable and fuckable took a sizeable chunk.
>>12827215i still think we deserve our own boardthis thread could have been like 10 threads between the lewdposting, romero/adrian talk, NIN, map recommendations, screenshot sunday, etcwe probably have more ppm than the friggin origami board
>>12827198Yuji Sakai aka autismo supremo who thinks mobile gaming is superior to owning a computer decided to come out of the woodwork.See >>12827093 or >>12827169 if you need further reasons as to why it derailed.I think he might have been talking shit about simulation theory in the past thread, but it could have been someone else. A retard's as good as any other.
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>>12827227It didn't derail. Everything here is on topic. If you want strictly dry mapping conversation go to troonworld.
>>12827218That's a good thing. These threads being dead sucks. I enjoy discussing all aspects of this genre, even the bizarre stuff and behind the scenes dev discussion, its fun.
>>12827227https://warosu.org/vr/?task=search2&search_username=Yuji%20SakaiI don't see any of those screens that have the bigass crosshair or weird mobile gaming setup seen in >>12827093 but it certainly seemed to get "busy" when his trip showed up.
>>12827259He confirms it here https://warosu.org/vr/thread/11941257#p11942883
>>12827260Ut oh.
>>12827239>>12827242head to /v/ then, kids.
>>12827263Can you show me where these threads are mandated to only be mapping discussion and nothing else? Mapping and modding discussion is great but so is discussion of all other aspects of retro FPS.
>>12827254
>>12827218>i still think we deserve our own boardThat would have to be a "boomshoot" board, wouldn't it? I'd rather this thread be sandwiched by misc retro stuff over that shit, so no thanks.>>12827239>It didn't derail. Everything here is on topic.It seems more a concern with a derailing of quality.
>>12827259i wasn't play doom at the time i was ruining your thread too busy schizoing out on 15mg a day of valiuma few months later there was something on my news feed about classic doom getting a patch so i was like hmm...what's that aboutbought beth doom for my phone and while gamepads work fine the mouse input has awful mouse acceleration so i upgraded to delta touch after i figured out how to get the wadsdoing a lot better mentallynow that i played this game for a couple hours for the first time a while it seems doom is fine i can move my arm horizontal but earlier this year i tried to play the cpma bot on some aerowalk and had to abruptly quit after a midair flickrailso i guess shooting demons is ok but i can't beat up xaerowas just hopping around episode 1 on uv fast experimenting with a movement mod but it just didn't feel rightthe doomguy kept bumping his head on the ceiling making it impossible to strafe jump proper and the bhop physics felt way off so i'm not gonna use it
>>12826538Map Name?
Opinions on the Marathon trilogy? I feel like these games don't get as much love as they should. Durandal is definitely in the high top 10 of greatest retro FPS ever made imo
>>12827275>It seems more a concern with a derailing of qualityThat's entirely subjective.
>>12827285cool story bro but really bad mapsi couldn't finish it just watched the rest of the game on youtubemultiplayer was neat but kinda shit balance
>>12827290I admit to getting lost as fuck several times in the maps but the story and atmosphere are top fucking notch
>>12827289Yeah, no shit.
>>12827285FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE
>>12827285dogshit doom derivative that only people who grew up with macs venerate
>>12827301Based
trying to decide if i want to get 8 hours of healthy sleep or play doom until 6 am
>>12827304Hey fuck you. The story telling alone in Marathon is enough to give it legendary status.>muh games are like porno they don't need storiesThe gunplay is also excellent as well. No need to console war, everyone can enjoy Marathon today.
>>12827313You know what to do, Beast Man.
>>12827285Its a blast. Lightning in the bottle. A return to form, even.
I feel like a retro FPS themed bar and grill could do well. If I ever hit on powerball I am definitely opening one.
>>12827318Return to what form? We are talking about the original games, not the p2w remake
>>12827350yeah i'll have a red armor with a side of megahealth and for desert i would like a quad damage and yes i want the 4x flavor not 3x
>>12823040Shut up, Randy.
>>12827351Tourists like him just reply on autopilot
>>12824639Does that exist at a resolution that's actually legible?
>>12825146>episode 4WUT
>>12827285Love'em, even with some questionable map design at times. The way the weapon roster shakes out is a little weird at first, but helps the games feel more distinct, especially how launching enemies with explosives and grenade jumping fits into things. Also the mechanic with running punches is great.That feel and the built-in focus on plot and such was the reason for getting into building something in AlephOne over GzDoom.>>12827290Even as a guy who loves M1 the most as an overall experience, Durandal and Infinity are better for map design, even if Bungie's love for being a bit confusing never goes away.
>>12826884>1992 is when the government started requiring it.And that is just pure and simple old-fashioned communism!
>>12824268Who?>>12824273>thematically is pretty coolqrd?
>>12827318actual fucking bot
>>12827404The Stop Killing Games guy. Ross' Game Dungeon. Good channel.
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>>12827437
>>12825146I think E1 and E2 are the strongest
>>12827437He said on Twitter he is embarrassed by these ads today.
>>12827437One of those jesters is the Doom mapper Cranium who did the Cabal wads and a bunch of maps on the Master Levels. He co-designed that joystick with the other guy.
>>12827453When Logitech still stood for actual quality products that didn't die after 2 years. Sigh.
You know what I have always wondered? What exactly Tim Willits told American McGee about how Carmack wanted Quake II levels to be designed that got him fired? According to Sandy he purposely gave McGee shitty advice to fuck him over on how to design levels for Quake II and when he took the advice and presented the levels to Carmack he got so furious he fired him.
>>12827714It was Quake 3 Arena not Quake 2. If I had to guess Willits directed him to make big traditional levels or something akin to them instead of small deathmatch levels. But that is a guess.
>>12827551Two years is being generous, I've had their gaming mice go to shit in just over a year. Shit's why I swore off them.
More like Logicdrek, amirite fellas?
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>>12827350Has to be a 2hr limit otherwise you'd get the same few neckbeards camping out and ordering water and ruining the vibe for everyone.
>>12824805Archive link?
>>12824307>good for itselfFTFY
>>12827148I liked nin before quake existed. Pretty hate machine was released in 1989. Just because you're a follower faggot doesn't mean everyone else is. Stop projecting your contrarian homo behavior on everyone else.
>>12823748it's good dark ambient, not everything has to have pop melodies you midwit
>>12827827Peak soi energy here brother. The vast majority of people would prefer Sonic Mayhem's soundtrack sissy ambient shit if they were aware of it. There is a reason the genre as a whole isn't associate with moody artfag shit such as NIN
>>12827875*instead of sissy ambient shit
>love Doom's ost>love Heretic's ost>love Hexen's ost>love Quake's ost>love Duke's ost>love Blood's ost>love Shadow Warrior's ost>love Unreal's ost>love Deus Ex's ost>simple asI think Strife's ost is the only one that I can be iffy on. Some songs I do really like though.
>>12827894>I think Strife's ost is the only one that I can be iffy on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cogcEANYEkM
>>12827894I like strife OST. But it's the only one I prefer in OPL
>>12827897This one + Audience Chamber and I think Catacombs are what I think of when I think of headache inducing Strife music. Rest of it I mostly don't mind or like.
>>12827894>hate REKKR's ostIt doesn't even have MP3 files, it's not as groundbreaking as Sigil.
>>12827918Sigil's product placement soundtrack is kind of shit, the one by Jimmy is way better.
>>12827918Not a fan of buckethead desu
>>12827918kek
Fake news, Romero loves vikings!
>>12827920>the one by Jimmy is way betterI agree. I don't hate the Buckethead one, but Jimmy's fits better.
>>12827918I can't comment on Rekkr's ost. Need to play it fully first - only played first two levels. But lol
>>12827934Twitter screenshot is fake.
>>12827719how does sandy know? he was well busy with age of empires at the time.
>>12827875>>12827879The frontline is waiting for you, Ivan. Go sign up, I can't wait to see you from a ukrainian drone's camera.
>>12827948he misremembers the details of adrian carmack's court case too
>>12827953This is something that him and McGee agree one though, at least that Willits is a snake and bad person.I think it was closer to the end of Quake though. It didn't cost McGee his job, but it soured the job and his position.
>>12827958that's quite a 180 from mcgee being quake engine's only pre-alpha tester for a year but carmack had bpd so whatevs
>>12827958>that Willits is a snake and bad person.Pretty much all of the ex-id staff do, and there's a ton of evidence of him bullshitting or stealing credit where he can too.
Tim Willits got paid to make thishttps://youtu.be/mBw_EmLmDf0
what a bastard
>>12827974Probably the only Doom map he actually did, supposedly everything else was his sister doing the layout + monsters and him placing decorations.
>>12827964carmack doesn't have bpd it's clear he has alpha male variant of autism (as opposed to your typical sissy beta autist you can find on this site)
>>12827986>>12827951
>>12826537>>128230493:19 https://files.catbox.moe/rrzb25.lmp
>>12827218I don't think that would be necessary at all, and it'd create way too much splintering.>>12827964How the fuck does he have BPD? He's not even remotely dysfunctional, vindictive, or attention gluttonous enough to fit as a BPDemon.You've clearly never dealt with such a person.
>>12827259Tripfags and namefags are two different things.>>12827350That seems even more niche than barcades.
>>12827982I think it somewhat varied, for instance how Wind Tunnels in Quake are based on a level his sister made for Doom, and I think he manually copied it himself.
>>12827875We get it, you're a faggot retard. No need to make so many posts confirming it
>>12828087It's important to him that you know that he has frontal lobe damage and an insatiable hunger for scrotums.
>>12828087i don't understand this shit flinging i like both bandshttps://youtu.be/0CyvePK0H6ohttps://youtu.be/eeNrRHty-Lo
got coffee
>>12828140Me too
>>12828140>>12828248Should've cracked open a bear instead.
>>12828261quit drinking in 2022 no thanks
>>12827989>>128230492:59 https://files.catbox.moe/8w1wuc.lmpPumping rockets at cacos is fun!
>>12828284How about some of that methodist grape drank instead? I hear it's pretty good while also being alcohol free, it's wine-like enough for those dudes to use for their communion instead of wine.
>>12828261But that's not very nice.
Hmmm.....today Ill play opposing force
>>12828334i'm gonna go back to playing sunlust but i'm too young to die -fast is too easygonna go back to map01 and increase to hey not too rough
Brand new issue>>12828341>>12828341>>12828341
I love Doom and then my parents separated then I really loved Doom.
>>12827894You forgot Daikatana.
>>12827314>story tellingYeah, my favorite part of the story is where some guy winds up in a hangar where hundreds of armless and legless corpses scream at him.
>>12828490Sounds like kino
