What JRPG has the best party overall?I'm not talking individual characters, like FF9 has Vivi who's fucking great, I'm talking which one has the best overall cast where all of them feel great.
Trails FC. The fact that they come and go as the story progresses means you never have a massive roster until the very end of the game, so it never becomes cluttered and all the characters get an appropriate amount of attention.
Phantasy Star IV, including Seth
>>3819270FF10, which gets major bonus points for having all characters potentially present in every battle. I also liked FF7's cast.
>>3819270Etrian Odyssey.FF I.DQ III.
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Final Fantasy XIII. Every character has a good story with appropriate motivations, and unique gameplay differences that nonetheless don't force you to use one if you don't want to.I wish Cid could have joined as a secret party member.
>>3819361B8
>>3819332eh. You notice how even the picture you posted doesn't have Zin in it? Funny huh?And desu Shera isn't that great either. >>3819363anyone who posts a final fantasy game in any thread usually is
>>3819364Poor Zin. He got cut from the anime too.
Tails of Berseria.
>>3819270Sovl
Golden Sun and TLA
BoF3
>>3819270This is always going to be a question that never have a concrete discussion just people listing off their own favorite just like kids shouting in playgroundPersonally:Writing-wise FF7Gameplay-wise FF6
>>3819955>This is always going to be a question that never have a concrete discussion just people listing off their own favoriteWow you have such insight on human people protocol
>>3819960Because nobody mentioned it in this thread? Just pointing out the obvious.
>>3819270FFV
>>3819270Mass Effect 2, that's the entire point of that game to focus on the cast.
>>3819974>FFV/thread
>>3820004ME2 is up there with the best party selection in any vidya, but hardly a JRPG or an RPG for that matter.
>>3819270Xenoblade 1. In 1, Sharla is a bit of a weak link but oh well. I'd have included 3 but in retrospect, eh, I like about half of the main party.
>>3819364>And desu Shera isn't that great either.you're fucking crazy what
>>3819270Tales of the Abyss obviously.
Xenoblade Chronicles series, The Legend of Heroes: Trails series
>>3819270Maybe it's too obvious to post, but most of the games widely considered top RPGs have great parties on top of everything else good about them.Chrono Trigger is an obvious choice, every character is great. Final Fantasy VI has a big cast and the attention is split more, but all the party members are cool and their stories are well done (characters like Umaro and Gogo are secret and don't need more). Final Fantasy VII has one of the best parties too, even Yuffie and Vincent have a lot going for them despite being optional. There's no party member in those game that I don't like.
>>3819270Saiyuki: Journey West.You get a dragon girl SE Asian teen slut, a butterfly model chick, two lolis, a scorpion ginger milf. Unfortunately the entire party isn't female.
>>3819270Tales of Vesperia maybe. Honestly a lot of Tales games would be in with a good shout, the skits system goes a long way towards endearing the characters to the player.
>>3819332FC's a good shout, and that core cast + Kevin remain charming in the two sequels as well.
>>3827529>Unfortunately the entire party isn't femaleI was about to ask... was this some female-only version of Saiyuki? lol assuming it's based off of the manga with the same title.
>>3827550>heh I kill because Im not a coward and can make the hard decisions like killin bad dudes>ok well ur gf is gonna genocide everything are you gonna kill her then?>no"Great characters" eh. Everyone just handwaves it away when they could have at least had a skit where a member calls it out but nope. It's an old internet fight but still applies. Stand it up against the FC series that actually digs in as a comparison
They might fall into typical tropes tropes but you're never tired of them, its always a treat to see everyone's interactions and stories. Except Miranda, i hope she dies as she lived, crying like a bitch.
Xenosaga sub series for me
>>3830921Shion slowly becomes and pretty awful person by the end of the third game though. After everything the cast goes through the stuff with Kevin was crazy. And the way she treated Allen only to end up holding hands right after... If they were going for the message that she still was far away from healing from her trauma then slam frickin dunk I guess because that was rough
>>3819346Lulu and Kimahri are both pretty bad>>3820004There's no reason to ever use half the team.>>3819933>>3825275These games don't have great parties, you just think they do because they're piss-easy>>3825243She has nothing whatsoever to recommend her. She can't heal like Kloe, she can't hit like Zin or Joshua, and she can't magic-nuke like Olivier. You already have one unspecialized character forced into your party, no sense clogging up the roster with another.
Persona 4. Not a character in tgere that I don't like by the end.
FF8
>>3819332I liked Zero's party better. SSS + Estelle and Josh.
>>3830771lol you got filtered by a japslopsub-70 IQ
>>3831128From Crossbell onwards Estelle and Joshua got neutered and lost most of the traits that made them endearing characters.
>>3831161Agreed. It's a shame. Estelle is such a go getter dickheaded brat in FC/SC
am i wrong though
>>3819332FPBP
>>3831036>She has nothing whatsoever to recommend her. She can't heal like Kloe, she can't hit like Zin or Joshua, and she can't magic-nuke like Olivier.Schera is the only character in the game who can accelerate your party's turns and grant you three consecutive attacks in a row. In certain situations, that's much more valuable than a single healer or attacker.
>>3819270FF4I liked that party.Also Chrono Trigger.
>>3831220>Also Chrono Trigger.a party that would travel time to bring your ass back.those are bros.
>>3831159The only reason I'm giving (you) this response is because of how hilarious it is that decades later Vesperia fans still seethe when people point out they have no critical thinking to not pick up on the bad writing >>3831202Okay but why is this. Goody and Donald were practically just cardboard cutouts 80% of the time and somehow I only have fond memories and good feelings when I see this image. The fact that they truly nailed this team with a less is more approach is amazing in retrospect
Frankly, it's a low-hanging fruit, since it's easier to write 3 characters than 6-8. Regardless, they are the best main party I've seen.>>3819360 is also a strong contender, though.
>>3831036>These games don't have great parties, you just think they do because they're piss-easy>no dude nobody actually likes the party in CT, they're just saying that because the game is easyGet a load of this clown
>>3831220Had to scroll down WAY too far for Chrono Trigger.CT is literally #1 objectively correct answer, and it's not even close.>>3820004I like it. RNG status is questionable, but the party is so great I'll allow it this time. Pre-EAbuyout Bioware's biggest strength was memorable companions (not you Carth, sit back down), and possibly its only strength. Pre-EA Bioware games are just janky slop without the companions.
>>3831036haha a retarded faggot low-effort bait post. Been 2 minutes since I've seen one of those.Here I'm in a good mood so have a (You). I pity your loneliness.
>>3820004They don't impact the game enough. The player character does almost all of the fighting.
>>3831243Because they had good AI and were useful
>>3819332holy fucking shit, no. The only good characters are Olivier and Scherezard, and they fucking completely vanish from your party for most of the game.
>>3825275I love Chrono Trigger, but the characters are mostly stylish cardboard cutouts that exist to have some tie to their respective time period. They are certainly visually and conceptually interesting, but as actual characters, they're not up to much.
>>3819974>>3825101Fucking this. FFV's heroes are a masterclass in 16-bit character development. Even Gilgamesh is jealous of how cool they are, just for beating him up all the time.
I think if you're talking about the whole party being endearing and ending up feeling like family, I'd have to say Like a dragon, chrono trigger and tales of arise
>>3819270For some reason I want to say Eternal Sonata. I'm wrong and it's probably just nostalgia, but that's the answer I want to say. It's a pretty big party too, 10 guys + 2 extra DLC ones.
>>3835157>They are certainly visually and conceptually interesting, but as actual characters, they're not up to much.this, desu. I like the cast of trigger, but most of them don't fucking do anything or have any kind of arc or development beyond face value. There also isn't much interaction between them at all, especially once you can switch party members freely. The finale tries to play up the emotion of all these friends being forced to say goodbye to each other, but the only two that have any sort of believable relationship are Lucca and Robo. And even that only boils down to two scenes where she has to fix him because she's the only person with a screwdriver.But I suppose I shouldn't be expecting objective analysis of the JRPG that is primarily praised by people who don't play JRPGs.
>>3819270>I'm talking which one has the best overall cast where all of them feel great.FF5. Almost every scene in that game has some subtle or not-so-subtle moment of the heroes bonding or showing compassion toward one another. It's kind of the point of the whole game.I also get the feeling that the intended "true" ending is the one where only Krile escapes the void. It just makes for the better, more dramatic end to her arc of loneliness.
>>3835157>>3835324OP just asked which parties have "the best overall cast where all of them feel great." Deep or not, the cast in Chrono Trigger feels great. They're all memorable and fit the game perfectly.
>>3835157>I love Chrono Trigger, but the characters are mostly stylish cardboard cutouts that exist to have some tie to their respective time periodI doubt you can love a game and still have such a superficial view on it. Unless you have small brain.
>>3835324>most of them don't fucking do anything or have any kind of arc or development beyond face value.I don't think they needed more than they got honestly. Frog and Magus got the most, but all of them get some sort of satisfying short arc or development. Except for Crono for obvious reasons, and I guess Ayla doesn't get all that much besides taking down the Reptites and some stuff with Kino.
>>3835348>Ayla doesn't get all that muchIMO it's better that she doesn't have a tragic origin story, she just is a female chad. The others had enough touching moments.
>>3835372Yeah I agree, nothing wrong with Ayla
>>3819270Summon Night 2 has:>hard-boiled detective from Los Angeles>wandering samurai>faithful fox loli that calls you "onii-chan">spunky tomboy martial artist>mech soldier from another world>retarded hobo catgirl you pulled off the streets>bratty rich girl>yankee asshole demon boy>miko sisters>cute tribal brown girl>chivalrous knight>overworked wagie, former assassinAll playable characters with lots of dialogue and their own endings.
>>3835154Kloe, Agate, Tita, and Zin are all good too.
>>3819336BASED
>>3819974>>3825101>>3835158lolwut? FF5's characters are basic and bland.
>>3819332>generic animanga archetypal characters>goodpick one.
>>3825275I love CT just as much as the next person, but the characters are completely flat and 1 dimensional. for fucks sake, the lead character is silent. that's not a good cast.
>>3819270Baten kaitos origins has my favorite party of characters in any game. Tales of vesperia is a close runner up though.I miss when Jrpgs had good characters. Im playing octopath 2 right now and I can't believe a game this long has these paper thin characters
>>3835851It's the FF5 schizo
>>3835851weak b8 m8
>>3819270Etrian Odyssey>The characters are just blank slates, any lore between them is product of your own imagination and creativity.
>>3835851If you're an illiterate retard, probably.
>>3835344>I doubt you can love a game and still have such a superficial view on it.Blame the game for being superficial, not me. I'm just judging it for what it is, instead of injecting meaning that isn't there just because I have an obsessive attachment to a 30 year old game I played as a kid.>>3835348>all of them get some sort of satisfying short arc or development.They all get "something", but calling any of it "development" is a stretch.
