Do you have the """correct""" media literacy, anon?
>>3837257I do.I see jaks, I know I just need to filter and report.
>its a melting pot>but theres no shared identity>its homogenous, we're all the same>we still feel alienated>we splinter into factions!!!YAWN boring political talking points. You're lonely because no one likes you and you're intolerable /thread
>>3837280>words words words>/threads himselfyou're not much better than op
>>3837257White leaders brought your beloved so called shitskins into your so called white country. They desperately want to save 1 dollar per hour in wages and hate white babies.
>OP's postIt'd be nice to have a thread that discusses what the game's setting tries to achieve but you've got brainrot.There is no correct "media literacy" and the phrase is a trending set of buzzwords (or was, months ago).I suggest making a new thread, avoid trending phrases from twitter or tiktok and just present your analysis of Night City for discussion. You can even use a lust-provoking image for it if you really want, why not.
>>3837257Left is the consequence of right. No no social cohesion allows corporations to run unchecked. That's why they push multiculturalism so much.
>>3837588>(((white)))
>>3837257Both are true at the same time, you could say they are one thing but people think they are two different things.
>>3837646Sure, even the guys pretending to go hard on migration favour cheap labor over expensive ones. It's whites fault entirely. They grew fat Nd lazy and gave eager women power.
>>3837588Happy to see you understand the problem
>>3837257Brother your designated Best Friend Forver is a beaner and ALL the available squeezes are minorities.
>>3837257>"muh cultural and racial purity">Cyberpunk2077Pondsmith came up with Arasaka specifically precisely to defecate on (you)r face personally.
why are jakposters like this
>>3837257no matter which way you look at it, this game sucked even after years of updates
>>3837601>brainrotcan you rewrite your post without buzzwords please?
>>3837704>"Pondsmith came up with Arasaka specifically precisely to defecate on (you)r face personally">Arasaka is the only prospering force in the city that couldn't be killed off even in nuclear fire, multiracial and multicultural groups are drug addicted hobos.HMMMMMMMMMMMM.
>>3837674>it’s whites fault entirely
>>3837635Other way around fuck nuts,
>>3837257>creator of the series is black man from the 80s who hated Reganiam and Regina mics>you, a fat lonely white cuck probably addicted to BNWO porn and posting to cope. >be me, glad to not be you and enjoying my game where I kill corpofags and their supporters.
>>3838008Nigger
>>3838008>thinks he kills "corpofags and their supporters".>in actuality, kills bottom-feeder fellow niggers.Even the african-time negromutt (that the creator of Cyberpunk is) understands why his massa is in power.
>>3837257>No no, its totally the homeless niggers fault and not shekelstien robbing you of your wages.Nice corpo propaganda shill.
>>3837257Oh my God you imanentists are so retarded.The critique of a cyberpunk setting has to be the loss of the human Spirit.Greed is, believe It or not, a sin like any other. A society of robots and megacorps isnt a critique of capitalism per se, It is an illustration of the life of Men living as machines, because It opposes the beauty of the world and conflicts with the human soul.It also isnt a critique os multiracial societies or whatever. Can anyone here think is metaphysical terms? Everything is about society in some form. Dumb shit. What about the higher plane of things? The forms? The souls?
>>3838415>The critique of a cyberpunk setting has to be the loss of the human Spirit.How embarrassing that the game doesn’t have a humanity/empathy stat implemented at all, actively encourages and assumes that you’ll go full chrome all the time with no downsides, and narratively doesn’t even notice if you reject cyberware.
>>3838310>leave the jews alone!>niggers are good!go back to leftypol
>>3838438Nice try at division kike.
OK, cleared the map, hit level 56, finally time to go meet Takemura at the diner and see what the fuck he wants. Rate my cyberware build:
>>3839375masochism
>>3839378You mechs might have copper wiring to reroute your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel.
>finish game before rework as cyber wizard, piss easy >finish game after rework as cyber wizard, piss easy bit my nose bleeds on occasion
>>3840027The problem I have with netrunner is there was some bug that caused me to constantly lose health after using overclock sometimes that can only be fixed with a save and reload. Ironically it was still so fucking easy that I never noticed it until after combat.
>>3839375You know you probably might need to re-equip the kiroshis because sometimes they don't work from the initial introduction to cyberware.
>>3837273This Anon's Media Literacy Level is over 9000!!!
>>3840287This is my first full replay of the game since it came out. Never touched any of the expansion stuff. I'm basically trolling myself in order to get mad when the game doesn't even recognize that I've completely eschewed cyberware all game and then the expansion plot goes "a bloo bloo, V was only a great merc because of his cyberware, look he is worthless and weak without it!"
>>3840299It still makes sense that V can't really beat up someone right after coming out of a coma with no apparent physical therapy or cyberware advantage to make up for that, but it is kind of bullshit. Still, the ending is just about turning down your chance to be a legend and see things through. If you think about it for 5 minutes, getting out of life or death work for a cushy government job is like the happiest ending any character has ever gotten in Cyberpunk.
>>3837257Both are true
>>3837257The triumph of corporate capitalism directly lead to a borderless, cultureless, commodified world where everyone is an economic unit and where you are alienated to the point of not even being comfortable in your own body and modifying it to “fit in” with a society that doesn’t care about you. Cyberpunk is just showing us a fictionalized future where these consequences take shape in the worst possible way.
>>3840333>directly lead to a borderless, cultureless, commodified world where everyone is an economic unit and where you are alienated to the point of not even being comfortable in your own body and modifying it to “fit in” with a society that doesn’t care about youWow, can we go like, two days without blatant anti-Semitism on this board? Thanks. Checked.
>>3839375Youre basically Adam Smasher before he went full Borg. You'll be fine
>>3840333I think Night City has its own culture, but it's also just a single city that purely exists for corpo bullshit. I don't think it makes much sense to focus on that point one way or the other unless the game actually took place somewhere else in the NUSA or some other country.If there's a theme to Night City it isn't about what capitalism does to culture, but how all that flashy high stakes shit manipulates people into thinking it has something to offer them when all it ever does is chew them up and spit them out if the game wasn't already rigged in your favor.
>>3840394It is notable that in all the comics when someone asks you if you want to leave night city the person they asked dies. It wasn't until the racing chick comic that I realized it was a euphemism with double meanings since she just has her girlfriend whacked on the sidewalk.
>>3840394Night cities culture is very superficial and alienating for people who aren’t sociopaths, which is the kind of environment it caters to exclusively. Normal people are chewed up and spat out because the environment is fundamentally “anti-human”, while Adam Smasher thrives because he never had much humanity to begin with. You’re basically right about everything else but I don’t think you can call it a “culture” in the traditional sense.
Which gang is best, /vrpg/? From a lore standpoint or your own pesonal preference?Valentinos always seemed very chill to me
>>3843921Definitely 6th street, but they get up to the same scummy stuff as the rest. I always stop while cruising around the city to blast any gangers I see.
Getting close to the end of the base game on my no-cyberware run, just doing Johnny's sidequests before moving into the endgame.Did the racing quests with "Claire", just blasting through them in the Caliburn. He wants me to murder the other racer, I told him no, no murdering in cold blood, just racing. He agreed. I'm cruising through the last race, far ahead of any other racers, so that I don't even see or hear the scripted accident I'm supposed to stop for. "Claire" just starts bitching at me "WHAT THE FUCK, V!" "YOU PROMISED!" "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS HAPPENING!" for not murdering the guy we already agreed to not murder, and then storms off after the race in a huff. After this, "Claire" seethes and refuses to serve you in the Afterlife for the rest of the game.Then I'm doing "Chippin' In" where Johnny borrows your wheels and gets all fucked up in a night out on the town, doing stupid shit. "Claire" happily serves you at the Afterlife, like nothing happened. WTF, immersion ruined
>>3843927>Help Claire out>He gives you his gonk troon-tank as a reward>drive it off the bridge into the river and make it explode mid-air with a quickhackThe only good ending
>>3843938Yeah, I read that the “good” ending is to go through with the confrontation then talk him out of revenge, but I didn’t want my vehicle list to be cluttered with the troontruck. And I find the raw reveal of the duplicitous, murderous core of the character to be accidentally realistic.
>>3837257>every city is a melting pot with no shared culture>neighborhoods fracture into warring enclavesthese are contradictory retard
is cyberpunk good compared to stuff like jensen deus ex? does it have A/B or other wokeshit?
>>3844074>Gameplay-wise Yes better in some ways>Story-wiseTheres some great moments but with it getting slashed and burned to get it out the door it flounders a bit>A/BNo clue what that is>wokeshitif you played Witcher 3 without clutching your pearls you'll be finewokeshit in cyberpunk as a genre is kinda unavoidable
>>3844074>does it have A/B or other wokeshit?Yes, and yes. It’s pretty bad. Some of it is unintentionally hilarious though, like the posts above yours discussing a murderous and lying tranny who tries to trick you, a mercenary, into a convoluted racing scheme for murder instead of just paying you to kill someone.>>3844088>wokeshit in cyberpunk as a genre is kinda unavoidableIt’s significantly more woke than Witcher 3. I’m pretty sure it’s basically a whole new dev team, I doubt they have much carryover in terms of personnel.Also cyberpunk used to have none of that shit tacked on, that’s definitely a (((recent addition)))
how come nobody really mentions the side dialogue in this game is fucking awful. literally anytime panam speaks im fucking cringing.
>>3844074>>3844088>>3844091Cyberpunk is one of the few settings where body modifications of all kinds actually fit in seamlessly. There also the underlying message that maybe modifying your body won't actually fix your problems despite all the surgeries and cyberware being peddled to you (this might not be "The Message" some people would want you to take from it, but it's an undeniable part of its themes nonetheless). Not to mention it fits well into the dystopian corpo hellscape the world has turned into.The game basically never* brings up "The Message", which is fitting since it makes zero sense in the cyberpunk world apart from the thematically appropriate problems coming from overuse of technology (cyberpsychosis, addictions to modifications and braindances, etc.). When you can modify your body to any shape and size with cyber- or biomods "The Message" kinda becomes a solved issue of yesteryear, for good or ill, that makes zero sense to have presence in 2077.*The one big exception to this is the Claire quest(s), which is probably the worst quest in the whole game+expansion both in terms of writing and gameplay. It's just an anachronistic piece of "The Message" from 2020 that makes zero sense to make an appearance in 2077. It's like having someone give you passionate takes about WW2 warbonds in 2025, it makes zero sense in the context and actively removes you from the game world to be reminded of the real world "The Message" of 2020's.>tl;drIt's a good game with good story that doesn't beat you on the head with current year politics. You do encounter one tranny still fighting a culture war from 2020 that breaks the fourth wall if you choose to seek out his quest (1 out of ~400 quests). Easily one of best games of its generation.
>>3843954>retardt. retardlmao.
>>3837257>cyberpunk 2077 is anything deeper or more than Pondsmith's cyberpunk-is-cool 80s nerd-out
>>3844094No-one actually listened to Panam.
>>3844176>thematically appropriate problems coming from overuse of technology (cyberpsychosisThis is one of the areas they badly dropped the ball, imo. The devs didn't even bother to include an empathy/humanity system (I'm sure CP2020 tabletop has something similar), or any drawbacks to going full borg at all. And when they overhauled the mechanics in 2.0, they nerfed the "mostly 'ganic" playstyle by removing clothing mods, and transferring most of those modifiers that a player used to be able to get without cyberware, to cyberware-only. The devs simply expect the player to go all cyberware, all the time, and not only are there no benefits to avoiding cyberware, the game's narrative doesn't even recognize or notice if the player doesn't.The "cyberpsychosis" shit was very poorly handled as well, with the root causes of it being basically not addressed or brought up at all, and the whole questline is reduced to a series of "look at these poor, innocent criminals who were forced into doing these awful things! They're the real victims, we should sympathize with and help them, they dindu nuffin! You're a bad person if you kill them in self-defense" vignettes.>doesn't beat you on the head with current year politicsIt's not as bad as BG3 with this, but there's a good amount of it. The tranny murderer questline, as you noted, but the devs actively tried pandering to trannies during development, and they actually got assmad about it (IIRC it was the "mix it up" vending machines or some shit). One thing that really sticks out is the cheesy dickriding of the Second Amendment, when you know damn well all these devs are shitlibs that think guns should be banned. Delamain's monologue about it, the repeated ads for "The second amendment isn't ONLY for the rich!" with the strong black kween nobly defending herself against, presumably, a Trump-voting CHUD. And the constant youtuber faces/voices on ads is immersion-killing for me.
>>3844260Overall the devs tone was frequently projecting a paternalistic, upper middle class mindset educated leftist attitude. “Oh these innocent helpless poor people, they lack agency and aren’t responsible for their choices, they’re victims” along with all the “noble innocent sex worker” shit. Just seems jarring when you contrast it with something older like Neuromancer.
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>>3843954>a melting pot with no shared cultureBut a melting pot by definition is a shared culture. Melting pots mix the cultures together into one and thus are the opposite of multiculturalism where the cultures are together but separate, which is more like Canada's "mosaic"
>>3844264>with something older like Neuromancer.Reminder that the person who wrote Neuromancer thought the Kowloon Walled City was a better place than Singapore, because at least through all of its crime and grit it feels real, a place a of actual culture and not a sterile facade.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_with_the_Death_Penalty
>>3837257>melting pot and enclave at the same timeretard
>>3840333Sounds like you're describing communism t.b.h.
>>3844474>Sounds like you're describing communism t.b.h.Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks
>>3844462He also didn’t have a computer
Fucking A, just did the Adam Smasher fight, haven't finished the game since release... they sure made him a shitload harder than when the game came out. Felt pretty squishy with my frail 'ganic body, have to spend half the fight dashing away and reloading.
>>3844557I remember him being a lot easier before the big overhaul, but I also tended to focus on blunt weapons before that (which iirc are one of the more effective ways of fighting him), and having attempted the fight using those more recently. Currently he's like the one time you might have some struggle as a netrunner (if you don't just exploit putting cripple movement on monowires anyway)
>>3844605>and having attemptedand haven't attempted
>>3844605Corpo V picked the Devil ending, felt fitting and appropriate to come full circle like that, with the AV ride back to Arasaka. Honestly was pretty touching in a grim and depressing way, they did a great job of it. Rejected the deal and then sat and watch all the holo calls.I think it's the only ending I hadn't seen yet, when the game launched, I did nomad V into nomad ending (and also did the Rogue ending, secret Johnny ending, and saw all the permutations of the final choice at the very end) secret Johnny ending and then, as Johnny, choosing to steal your body at the end was quite unsettlingGonna do the phantom liberty bullshit now. I've had a lot of it spoiled for me already but never played it. Already prejudiced against that Songbird tart. Trolling myself to get mad when the game doesn't even recognize that I don't have any cyberware besides the requisite eyes.
>>3844474That's because modern world is bad aspects of comunism/socialism and capitalism mixed together.
I uninstalled this game because it broke every time.
>>3844708It crashes like a motherfucker, even on a beefy PC. Probably the crashiest game I can recall in many years.
>>3837257It's a shithole American city, but with sci fi tech.
>>3837790>Arasaka>prospering Chomba you high?
>>3845111>Arasaka>not prospering Chomba you high?
>>3837257Both of these are correct
>>3845111They're one of the most powerful organizations in the world, on a ranking that includes national governments.
>>3844462The Kowloon Walled City was fucking badass and I wish they hadn't torn it down.
>>3845620I think Arasaka coming back to the top from the ashes is a bit of a handwave given their defeat at the end of the fourth corporate war. It should have been made irrelevant or replaced by an entirely new company. I'm not even sure if there are hints that Arasaka recovery rest on shaky foundations to at least give you a sense that they recovery came at a hard cost.
>>3843927I made a good-faith effort to kill Claire's nemesis during the race, but his car is scripted to be unkillable. And obviously I'm not about to throw the race just to kill some guy, when Claire deliberately kept it a secret until the last possible moment that she wanted him killed.Like fuck, if you want an assassination just hire a fucking assassin. If she'd been honest from the start I'd at least have felt some professional obligation to go through with it. But no, she can't afford to hire Rogue to do it properly, and she doesn't want to seem like she's hiring hitmen off the street even though that's exactly what she is doing, so she has to do it the stupid way and hope that the trans flag on her car is enough to make her look like the good guy. Well guess fucking what, we live in a post-trans society where Fingers will do you a sex change in exchange for a fuck and even throw in a free virginity restoration after he deflowers you. There's no reason for it to be a big deal, and you don't deserve to have people assassinated for free just because you used to have a cock.
>>3844697it is only stealing when you don't say you will bite the bullet and didn't choose the secret ending dialogue. The mikoshi scene is weird that way. Much like how Alt has a secret relationship value with Johnny but you only have like 3-4 choices in never Fade Away (and two blue options instantly tanks the relationship).
>>3845631Even ignoring all the trans shit, it would still be a terrible quest. Racing in a game that isn't a racing game always sucks, going along with a client that lies to you is always frustrating at best when they don't give a better way to tell them to fuck off, and V telling someone to not kill is just comical with the bodycount you would have by then. It's honestly kind of amazing how much it stands out from everything else in the game in terms of just being shit
>>3845254>>3845620As >>3845623 pointed out, they lost the Fourth Corporate War, they have competitors airing their balls on their fucking home turf in Japan, and the game's entire central plot is focused on their crippling succession crisis, which they try to magical ubertech their way out of like Wolfenstein nazis or something, which as always only bites them in the ass. They are the textbook caricature of le perfect divine technocracy decadently fucking itself out of existence. >>3843927>>3845631>>3845638Claire is legit the worst fucking NPC in the game somehow.
>>3845670Forgot to add that Arasaka only seems all-powerful in the game because they have a strong presence in NC. But NC is an irrelevant shithole dump, and even then they share the city with every other megacorp unde the sun like cucks.
>>3845623No state bailouts in anarch-capitalism, so any corporation that stumbles should fall and be destroyed by competition with no chance of recovery.They're supposed to be ruthless for a reason.
>>3845670Claire is where out of place character, a bad quest, and bad mechanics all form an unholy union. >>3845672I wouldn't call NC irrelevant, but I doubt corpo relevance there perfectly reflects the state of the world
>>3845674>No state bailouts in anarch-capitalismAkshually, seeing as CP2077 governments are literally vestigial fronts for the megacorps, literally all budget they have goes wholly exclusively towards bailing out their dommymommy corp.
>>3845634>it is only stealing when you don't say you will bite the bullet and didn't choose the secret ending dialogue. The mikoshi scene is weird that way. The last time I went through those endings was almost five years ago when the game first came out fuck, 5 years, really? so they may have changed in patches since then, but at the time, I'm certain I had the "secret ending" unlocked, since I did it. Aside from the nomad or devil endings, I did the last run with Rogue, as V, and then at the final choice could choose to keep the body or let Johnny take it, or the "secret ending" where you solo it, as Johnny, and then at the final choice, Johnny can choose to either keep the body or give it back to you. From what I've read, the "secret ending" is strictly unlocked by dialogue choices in "Chippin' In" and Johnny's relationship meter is completely irrelevant, but I've also heard that if you have a sufficient Johnny score, then he will automatically give your body back without a choice. Perhaps that's what you mean.>Much like how Alt has a secret relationship value with Johnny but you only have like 3-4 choices in never Fade Away (and two blue options instantly tanks the relationship).Wow, really? Any more details about this?
>>3845638>Racing in a game that isn't a racing game always sucksThe worst part is the rubber banding enemy cars do, accelerating in a way that's impossible for that vehicle. You can see this in the street driving around too, you can be flooring it in a Caliburn and if some twat in a 90 hp shitbox gets spooked from combat they'll start out-accelerating you and speeding away.
