can we have a comfy tactical rpg game thread?For my taste, I prefer more japanese tactical rpg than non japanese games. (it is because of the design of the characters: I like anime like design)example, non japanese tactical rpg with anime design: sword of convalria (it's chinese and free on steam)Well, game like FF tactics (pic related) for those who don't know what I'm talking about.
>>3838489I need The Coffin of Andy & Leyley style art for Ramza & Alma, Delita & Tietra, Miluda & Wiegraf, Rapha & Malach, and Meliadoul & Isilud.Fpbp btw
>>3838489>Well, game like FF tactics (pic related) for those who don't know what I'm talking about.They are called SRPGs, newfag.
>ask dev if their game is ff tactics strategy or fire emblem strategy>"it's a good strategy game">buy it>it's fire emblem
>>3838509no its trpg
>>3838520>>3838509All wrongTurn/Tile-based RPG
>>3838551ok for tile rpg
>>3838505>The Coffin of Andy & Leyleywtf even is that game?
>>3838551>>3838557Tiles In Turns RPG. TIT RPGA new genre is born. It markets itself.
>>3838489I prefer japanese art styles too, but japanese games just don't respect player choice and let you drive the narrative. It's just choo choo railroad from beginning to end. Of course the GBA tactics ogre was an exception, and Fire Emblem Three Houses broke the mold, but everything else is just linear.Kinda mad that the FFT remake didn't have alternate sprites depending on what class the named characters take.>Mfw no dancer Agrias
>>3838551NOAGRPGniggas on a grid
>>3838720I can dig it
>olan´s galaxy stop voiced spell quote
>>3838489>can we have a comfy tactical rpg game threadYes>about a 100k year old game by bommergrampsNo>what's the perfect srpg game? ----thread starts here----
Why haven't you played Troubleshooter yet?
>>3838520The tile based anon is right, I'm afraid. I always use tac.rpg or srpg interchangeably for fft. Is that wrong?
>>3838928Question is, can she?
>>3838489>sword of convalriaWhy is a game free? How's the job system?
>>3838942>Is that wrong?donnt know>>3838940never heard of it, sorry
>>3838945https://swordofconvallaria.co/go to 'class' and you can find what you're searching
>>3838986Quite a lot (of redundant) classes. Looking at it everything screams chinese.
>>3838986>Papal ice priest, flare and agatgaCool classes
>>3838551>tile basedwould that include western rpgs like Fallout or the Goldbox games?
>>3838943Naturally
>>3839015Good girl
>>3838992indeed its a chinese game of course
I love Vandal Hearts
>>3838787The gba tactics ogre only had two routes but close enough. Play the original if you can.>>3838939>Using boomer when new gook and japshit trpg's are copypastes of goyslop fantasy tacticsLol. Lmao even. Chinks are winning too much these days
>>3838940Same reason I don't read manwha, can't stand Korean shit. They aren't good at making anything.
blondness aside, that Jean D'arc game was pretty alright. But I will seriously never understand why Japan keeps making her blond. She was not blond. We know a lot about her.
do you know any obscure japanese TRPG/SRPG/TITRPG, please?I don't care if it's bad, I just want more games like FF tactics to play
>>3839202list all the ones you've played first
>>3839213none
>>3839109>Lol. Lmao even. Chinks are winning too much these daysThey are. Doesn't mean that everything they produce is the best thing ever made.
>>3839149Japanese give a shit about historical accuracy. They want the blonde shorthaired woman in plate trope and they go with it. See berserk or so many other examples. Sliver?
>>3839216Soul Nomad & the World Eaters
>>3839227thank you. I have the game already in my folders. thanks anyway for helping, kind soul
>>3839235>I have the game already in my foldersthen screenshot your folder and post it if you want recs that aren't on it, bro.
>>3839238It's all in a jumble. I haven't sorted the files. I have to search manually. But I'll do it right away, don't worry...I just have to stay up all night haha maybe some coffe would be good
>>3839243What's with her face
>>3839246shes american
>>3839238here's all the games1/2
>>38392382/2 some remain but didn't see those
>>3839202>>3839333Missing this.
>>3839332>>3839333no, i need the titles all typed out. i don't even remember what most of the covers for the games i've played look like.
>>3839223I don't act like they are, I just find it funny they take game dev seriously after doing mobile and flash shit for the longest time in the 2000's
>>3839518rondechaos warsgoblin slayer tacticsvanguard banditonimusha tacticsyggora unionsuikoden tacticslegend of legacydisgaea (all of them)operation darknesseternapersona 5 tacticsever gracetactic ogre (all of them)sakura wars (love something)growlanserlangrisserbrigandinetriangle strategyknights in the nightmarefire emblem (all of them)luminous arc (all of them)agarest war (all of them)soul nomadff tactics (all of them)sword of convalliriaeternal eyeshoshigamivandal heartsgungnirvalkyria profile covennant of the plumesaiyuki, journey to the westonimusha tacticsodin sphereblazing soulsvalkyria chronicles
>>3839368already have it, but thank you for helping
Honestly someone gotta make a SRPG tier list, more specifically the Japanese ones
>>3839093Based anon. Vandal Hearts I and II are GOAT.
>>3839529Have you played all of them? To and fft are above all imho, despite both being bug ridden messes.
>>3839529You forgot Front Mission
I think Wild Arms XF deserves more love, the mission design was pretty great and I wish there were more hex-based SRPGs.
>>3839202https://www.metacritic.com/game/aedis-eclipse-generation-of-chaos/It's like Heroes of Might & Magic lite but with RTwP autobattles. And a horrible, utterly unusable UI which the real devs should have polished by the 5th game in a series, but it's Idea Factory, so there.The game looks very nice in PPSSPP by accident, so at least try it out in an emulator even if you intend to play it on the real PSP/Vita. The undub is utterly unnecessary, the game is dual audio as is.And have this for fun:_C0 Can Deploy 20 Units_L 0x2013F608 0x34040014_C0 Always get loot L=soldier R=chest_L 0x2009675C 0x54830040_L 0xD0000000 0x10000100_L 0x2009675C 0x00000000_L 0x20096904 0x502000AD_L 0xD0000000 0x10000200_L 0x20096904 0x00000000(win the battle, then hold L and/or R buttons when dismissing the outcome screens with X button for 100% drop chance, can savescum with savestates too)Also press START before you finish the mission to bring up the log and press X on each event to collect awards for them, if any
>>3839721>played all of themno>>3839724I don't like it but ok I'll add it>>3839752thanks I'll check it
>>3839202Operation Darkness is pretty obscure. It's a neat sorta Hellsing-esque supernatural WW2 setting with a fun cast, but it has the worst fucking camera known to man. Which normally isn't much an issue in a turn-based game, but it's genuinely that bad.
>>3839765I have it already in my list but thanks for helping kind anony
>>3839732It might be objectively better than tiles, but I can't have it at all. I wonder why that is?
>>3838928WHOMST
>>3838940I got this game in EA and still have yet to play it but it looks fantastic. I loved everything about what I saw. It was basically anime XCOM.
>>3839752>Can Deploy 20 Unitsis not that useful on its own (the hard limit is typically 8, this many Captains can fit in the starting town/castle), so best used with_C0 Max Action_L 0x20037C94 0x34020063which removes the 5 actions per turn limit which normally leaves you with only 5 movable units per turn.ULUS10242.ini is where you paste these cheats when PPSSPP creates that file for you. Use TempAR or CWCheat on the real hardware.
>>38389401000+ hours
>>3838514Every single fucking timeI hate Fire EmblemI can play rock paper scissors in real life I don't need a video game for that shit
>>3840879If you really think RPS is what FE about then how could you even have the intellect to play strategy RPGs LOL
>>3840880You're right it's also about waiting right outside the enemy's movement range so that they move towards you and you get the first hit in
>>3840884Big brain move.
>>3840884That applies to all SRPG
>>3839332>>3839333Fire Emblem>only for fans of the serieLuminuos Arc>no real deepth, very boringAgarest war>simplificated, slopSoul Nomad>actual well doneFInal fantasy tactics>very hard, goodgrowlanser>hard , goodeternal eyes>easy, mid tierHoshigami>said to be the hardest grindervandal hearts>slop, playabletactics ogre>depends which version, modded psp version is top tiersaiyuki>mid tier, fun onimusha tactics>slop, boringblazing souls>boringchaos wars>simplificated disgea versionsuikoden tactics>boring, still worth a lookDisgea>got tier, grandfather of the all mighty tactic games to ever existphantom brave>comfy sidetactic, slowtriangle strategy>fuck square enix, final fantasy is dead
>>3840941>Disgay god tierOpinion disregarded
>>3839332>>3839333>>3839529unicorn overlord? doesn't fit?
>>3840959huum unicorn overlord is weird. I don't really know, ask another anon
>>3840959Since Ogre Battle wasn't included, Unicorn Overlord shouldn't be too
>>3839202black matrix, you can literally marry satan in the psx version
>>3841035https://youtu.be/ZfYxLqb_7xk
>>3840941>KinogeaGeG. Based. Fft and tactics orge are shit tho. Hoshigami is meme tier. Vandal hearts is kino
>>3841040Is the story good? Class system? Elemental system?
got this on /v/
>>3840941Literally no Growlanser game is hard. Maybe 4 if you don't want people to die.
Here, you forgot some slop. There is also jap only Sacred Blaze.
>>3841262How are the mechanics?
Nobody played Legend of Kartia?
>>3841298I did, surprisingly solid.>>3840884PvP fixes this, shame absolutely no games in the genre have it
>>3841295Alright. You are expected to recruit monsters though, but it'll just take exp from your main char who can simply solo everything, so that's goofy.
>>3838489Right now I am playing Lost Eidolons: Veil of the Witch. It's a tactical rpg/roguelike and I find it fun. Right now it's in early access but it launches in a month. There is also a demo so you can try it out yourself.
>>3841522>main char who can simply solo everything, so that's goofy.Lol, typical for a Japanese game. Ff8 is easiest if squall solos the game.>>3841528I thought it's not released. My #1 trpg, despite being rogue~.>eaLol>launches in a monthTaking lol back
>>3841251>No devil survivors.Cringe.
>>3841540>Lol, typical for a Japanese gameAfter the individual chapters are over and you get all the main chars at once, they all get to be overpowered as balls together. Yay.
>>3838489>Comfy>Pollutes the thread with gachashit instantly
Anyone tried Metal Slug Tactics?
>>3839243I do this with shitty instant coffee all the time so I have to taste it less.Maybe that makes me a monster.
So, i downloaded the Tactics Ogre rom, One vision mod and the HD texture pack. Got them all working on the PPSSPP emulator.But if i understood correctly, to use some of the features of the mod, i need to use some sort of cheats to activate them. How do i do that?
>>3841799The cheats arent needed to enable features of the mod, they're just suggested because they fix some issues the game has that the mod doesn't fix.https://ogre-db.github.io/one-vision/cheats.htmlLow level EXP cheat funnels EXP into low level classes instead of spreading out evenly across any classes that took part in a fight.Enemy Pickups go to Player should be self explanatory.If you're not sure how to actually use them, open the menu in PPSSPP, go to cheats, click open cheat file and paste the codes there and save the file. Now in the cheats menu you should see cheats with tickboxes next to them, tick the boxes and I would suggest resetting the emulator to make sure they've kicked in.
>>3841799Press ESC as the game is running or whatever the key is. The cheat file is just a notepad file you edit.
>>3841709I like the idea, but not the execution and wasted potentialWhile it had unique mechanics feels like they neglected alot of what makes roguelites great like the random events This board hates roguelikes unless they are the dungeon crawler ones BTW
>>3839149In Japan blond is a design shorthand for "foreigner". Either the designer wanted the japanese audience to be able to tell at a glance she was european or maybe Jean has always been blond in the minds eye of the japanese and since its foreign history they dont care enough to clear up the misconception.
>>3838505Based wincest between Ramza and Alma
In One Vision, what sort of long-term recruitments should you do?Like, if i plan on using a Terror Knight later on, should i recruit a Berserker in the beginning? Or in similar vein, should i recruit a extra archer and use crossbows so it can be a Fusilier later on?
>>3844852When recruiting units there's only 2 real things that matter due to how OV's changes work. Weapon rank is the most important one, if you plan ahead which weapons your endgame team will be using then put units in classes that can use those weapons so you can train weapon ranks early, you can change the units class later. Look at the units base stats as well. OV splits generic units into 3 groups by base stats, one for STR, one for DEX, and one for INT (most monsters get a defensive stat spread instead of an INT one). If you are recruiting generic units in battle try to pick one that has a good base stat spread for the job you're going to use them for, you can't easily level up base stats like in the base PSP game by levelling units up, you can only do it with cards. Training an archer with crossbows seems pointless if you want a fusilier. The first fusil you can use requires the uset to be level 15, but you can quickly level a fusilier from 1 to 15 if you use the low level exp code to funnel exp into them. If you plan on doing PoTD and San Bronsa I would also think about making a couple of core members of your team be flying units, they will help a great deal with handling the postgame stuff.
>>3838489Anime design is what ruins most games. There's an upcoming gaming that looks like a 90s Disney cartoon. An rpg in the look of 80s anime would be fantastic. Modern anime is tranime.Oddly enough, the three fft games are unmatched by any other tactics game.
>>3844914Lol. You literally don't have positioning or acutal strategy in any of the goyslop fantasy tactics spinoff's. They were always storyfag simulators for bioware troons. Gameplay is king in these games unless you're a troglodyte who cares about video goyme stories, knights of the chalice 1 and 2 mog every game in this thread.>90's disneyLike gargoyles or are you really excided for some "80" bby furryshit simulator
>>3841564>Gacha srpg's leh bad, even tho they play exactly the same as their single player counterparts.
Are games that are technically not SRPGs but have huge overlap because of tactical combat ala Temple of Elemental Evil or DOS1 allowed here?
>>3844955I dont see why not.
>>3844955No, because those are real games with actual strategic requirements.This thread is for Japanese """"simulation"""" RPGs that only simulate 1 thing: number going up rather than testing a player's ability to strategize.
Triangle has been funBut I just found out that you can't lose a single green unit to get the Plume...I think. If so, I'll do my own challenge run for mine and wait for it on NG+ because FUCK those NPC's with their retarded ai
>>3844955Yes. These threads need more blackgaurds discussion >>3844961>No because [Headcanon cope]He can talk about divinity and toee as much as he wants, backseat janny
>>3844937>they play exactly the same as their single player counterpartsNo they don't play exactly the same and stop spreading misinformation
>>3844955BG3, Divinity definitely count as SRPGs technicallyTrails in the Sky series as well, but dunno why trailsfags refuse for them to be called SRPGs
>>3844985>BG3, Divinity definitely count as SRPGs technicallyWat
>>3844986
>>3844988ChatGPT is this real?
>>3844852 I always get a Beast Tamer really early on since I usually end up using beasts and dragons instead of knights and warriors for my frontline. Always took the first couple of acts as just going through the motions till you get the areas where you can farm EXP. I guess you could do the same by just doing random encounters but that always sounds miserable.
>>3838940I played it but the art is ugly and the translation is even uglier. Did they ever fix it or is it still machine translated story?The tactics gameplay is good at least.
>>3844990Looking forward to your arguments, anon
>>3844927>They were always storyfagUnfortunately so. I believe they are critically acclaimed nevertheless. Jrpg lack any tactical depth. Break and stagger aren't depth nor fun.>koc 1 and 2Haven't played, but they so look and feel decent. AFAIK they have their fair share of bugs, they are mechanically interesting nevertheless.>gargoylesI'd say so. It's called bye Sweet Caroline or something. I'd like a tactics game that completely looks and feel 90s cartoon, no matter if west or east.
>>3839529Mercenary Chronicles, they aren't great games but they're nice filler. Like a cheap döner kebab when you really need to eat and aren't particularly choosy.
>>3845191>Mercenary Chronicles>What if Kemco makes SRPGs
>>3845192I didn't say it was good
>>3838489How does a brainlet get into TRPGs? The FE GBA games filtered me.
>>3845191thanks
>>3845212Never played FE but FFT is just a jrpg that instead of fighting 6 random battles you fight a big one with all the enemies in it. It doesn't take much strategy to build a functioning unit.
>>3845212What's the problem? FE is pretty barebones as far as TRPGs are concerned. Try Shadow Dragon, DS version.
is tactic ogre better than fftactics?
>>3845343For me it's much better for several reasons. Fft is a great game nonetheless.
>>3845351>for several reasonsI want to know them please
>>3845191>Mercenary Chronicles>Has 7 entries already.I agree that its pretty cheap SRPG but can be pretty enjoyable if you want to play an SRPG regardless of plot.Played all of them for 6 months. I'd say Mercenaries Rebirth is the best one to start. Hunting for Magic Items can be really time consuming though.
>>3838940Played it for like 400 hours, nice game.
>>3845359Plenty of reasons. To looks better, has a better story, much better banter and better job system. It's highly subjective though. Fft on the other hand has much more build versatility.>>3845464Awesome that people really play that game. Way too simplistic for me.
>>3845599FFT has better banter than TO, imoTO is much more realistic and doesn't feel as forced, although there is a weird quirk on certain characters being obsessed to DenamStorywise TO also makes more sense and doesn't rely too much on supernatural mcguffinNybeth kinda ruins it a little bit thougheverFFT does job system better though, jobs actually have a diverse skillset, while most TO jobs are mostly which one has better stats and boils down to magic / physical fighters
>>3845607I said that fft has much better versatility. Mixing jobs is only doable via two item classes. Nybeth and San bronsa do ruin the political story, but so do monsters, too.The banter in fft might be memorable but don't fit as much the story, nor is it deep. Despite being short, the banter between, (semi)uniques and bosses fit in tactics ogre. Both are very old and didn't age too well. Just now was researching trpg. Is ridiculous how bad all the existing or upcoming games are. Nothing comes close to TO or JA2, unbelievable!
>>3845613>Is ridiculous how bad all the existing or upcoming games areDevs don't put much effort into TRPGs nowadays >Nothing comes close to TO or JA2, unbelievableWhy are these 2 lumped together
>>3845712didn't play triangle strategy but doesn't triangle strategy got good reviews?
>>3845712Round based trpg without equal.>>3845712Nowadays? You mean past the 90s?>>3845723No generics, no buy. TS has too much dumb talk, too.
>>3845043“SRPG” as commonly used is a weeb genre that is a subset of JRPGs. and the name is a misnomer since they focus on tactics, not strategy, they should be called TRPGs much like how Mark Rippletoe says that Olympic weightlifting should be called powerlifting, and powerlifting should be called strengthlifting. BG3, despite its flaws, cannot be called any flavor of JRPG, by either a purist or radical interpretation of the term, and thus is categorically not a “SRPG”.You’re using “SRPG” to simply mean “has turn-based tactical combat” which has been a mainstay of CRPGs since their origin, but the ability to maneuver about a battlefield does not a SRPG make. That distinction is only relevant when compared to other JRPGs of the classical “four doctors and engineers in a row” type, which feature an abstracted battlefield rather than a tactical map.
>>3838720You are a fucking genius. Don't ever let anyone convice you of otherwise.
>>3845732>“SRPG” as commonly used is a weeb genre that is a subset of JRPGs. So by this logic you are saying only weeb games are able to be SRPGs, which just doesn't make any sense to begin with.>and the name is a misnomer since they focus on tactics, not strategy, they should be called TRPGs much like how Mark Rippletoe says that Olympic weightlifting should be called powerlifting, and powerlifting should be called strengthliftingYou are being pedantic without any purpose.>You’re using “SRPG” to simply mean “has turn-based tactical combat” which has been a mainstay of CRPGs since their origin, but the ability to maneuver about a battlefield does not a SRPG make. That distinction is only relevant when compared to other JRPGs of the classical “four doctors and engineers in a row” type, which feature an abstracted battlefield rather than a tactical map.Yes and there is nothing wrong with separating a genre based on the combat presentation. I have seen people who love 4 niggs in a row hate playing those "muh tactics and strategies" games, and vice versa.
>>38457312>Nowadays? You mean past the 90s?What about the FFTA games, Jeanne d'arc, Valkyrie Profile CotP, Gungnir, Devil Survivor games?The portable era of DS and PSP shows that devs are capable of executing unique ideas without fear of failures - even though they are definitely not as successful as they hoped in the end.
>>3845756meant for >>3845731
>>3845732I'll buy it
>>3845756CotP?>other entruesUnfortunately not a tendie, but am going to play the games you named and a few other tit rpg.>not successfulThat's the thing, nowadays you can be successful and deliver the best possible tit rpg. Some interesting jrpg in kickstarter, but they tend to need 4 years more than initially planned for by the devs.
this is my GOAT trpg. I've played the directors cut version and I've played the sequel but they dont quite hit it like this game does. If they remastered this game and made the AI not complete retards even on the hardest mode, it would be the only game I would play for rest of my years.
>>3845607>>3845613Honestly, I don't get the Nybeth hate. You have a guy happy as a kid locked inside a candy store because waves of conflict have left the Valerian Isles full of corpses and spirits, ready for him to research the Dark Arts. In a high fantasy game with people throwing spells left and right, faeries, gryphons, ogres and other creatures roaming around, I don't find it weird to have Necromancy as a subplot you barely scratch in the main story and must be found in an optional dungeon and side battles if you are interested in it. His fights are pure bullshit, though.My real complain about Let Us Cling Together, or at least the PSP version because I haven't even touched Reborn, is being able to rewind time and jump through timelines with no real explanation. I liked how the stakes were high in the SFC game where you would lose units if their health reached zero and you could only revive them with endgame magic.
>>3845957Oh nobody is hating Nybeth here - just his inclusion to the story
>>3845864I like the game but overall it felt shallow combat and story-wiseStill won't hurt to get a more ambitious entry of it
>>3845864>it would be the only game I would play for rest of my years.I can relate, it's a great game. Sequel and remake are shit.
>>3845957>His fights are pure bullshit, thoughAll boss fights are shit, esp against mages that have higher bit than an elite knight and enough int to let one bombardment of death rain upon you.>nybethCan either restore body or soul and dies before San brosa appears, the seal there is the solution to his problems.Still in coda 2, are the angels demons or wtf is going on?>time travelDenam is the world tarot card or associated with it and he kinda controls time.
>>3845320>FE is pretty barebones as far as TRPGs are concernedThat's just your opinion man.
>>3845818>CotPCovenant of the Plume Valkyrie Profile.
what's the best version of FFT to play for the first time?- The Lion War mod- The Lion War of the Lions mod- Remixed mod- PSP version with tweak mod
>>3846308>The Lion War of the Lions modI don't find the broken PS1 translation particularly charming even if it does have some harder hitting lines.The important thing is playing something with PS1 as a base though. PSP has an issue with sound effects that will never be fixed. I still don't understand why people bother to mod that version...
>>3846154Right, always forgetting that one. Shame it's not on Snoy station. Will get Jeanne and banner maiden next sale.
>>3846308PSX original.
>>3840953Elaborate?
>>3846635if you are a powerleveling / build autist I can understand why you say Disgaea is god tierBut personally the sum of its parts (story, characters, gameplay loop, diversity of strategies) aren't worth itIt's mid tier at bestI appreciate the dark assembly, lifting and geo panel mechanic, but it's not enough
>>3846637>dark assembly, lifting and geo panel mechanicWhat's that>>3846388Unironically
>>3846349>PSP has an issue with sound effects that will never be fixed.This one? The emulator is fucked, the game is fine on the real hardware (PSP/Vita/Vita TV)
>>3846939This is an absolute fucking lie, you have no clue what you're talking about. Not only are there like 1,000 search results of people bitching about the sound being butchered on the PSP on every forum imaginable, I have also actually played the game (shocking concept for you, I bet) and know for a fact the sound quality is fucked.
>>3847011nta but this sounds ok to mehttps://youtu.be/aR-FmtQ4DFc?t=1427Maybe they fucked up a version?
for me its DND 4e
Steam gets a lot of them relatively consistently. Why most of them dont get mentioned in places like 4chan. There are a few great ones lke Nephilim or Arcadian Atlas.
>>3848706>Nephilim Symphony of War - Nephilim Saga? I thought it was pretty discussed in /v/ in the past.>Arcadian AtlasUI sucks. And it did have discussion on /v/.RadCodex games needs more love.
>>3838509nobody uses that term anymore, I mean you can but you sound like a retard.
In One vision mod i just unlocked phorampa wildwood, so guess i need a Beastmaster.When you recruit units, they have different sorts of stat distributions. What sort of stats should i look for? Or do the stats even affect the recruiting skills?
>>3845864This game made me feel extremely retarded when I was younger. I must have gone back and tried dozens of times to really get into it, I just kept eating shit every time. It never "clicked" with me.I loved the presentation, I just couldn't process what I should be doing at any point.
>>3838720>Tile-based RPGHow would you envision a TIT RPG would work?By the logic of game that has turn based combat and a tiled world, would Pokemon be TIT?
>>3854571>How would you envision a TIT RPG would work?
I'm trying to get back into these games but I'm finding the gameplay to just feel glacial
>>3840941Modded psp TacOg is SSSS+ tierdisegaea's story is fun but the gameplay feels like slop- I have always felt guilty for sinking hours into this game instead of doing literally anything else. ZHP is based thoughplay gugnir and dungeons of neheulbok
>>3844852if you are planning on using a terror knight start with any 2h weapon guys. You also probobly want to bring a regular knight or other rampart user too so you can shadowbreak more often
>>3845343FFT and TacOg(psp) are both classics but the modded psp game has a ton more replayability and better balance/metagame. Like, FFT especially mods and the FFTA games, units are just really powerful and subjobs can easily cover your weaknesses. In one vision you have a larger team of more specific units with their own strengths, weaknesses and utility . fft is like a tactial RPG and TacOg is like a TACTICAL rpg .
>>3839008HOMM? Civilization?>>3839202tenchi tactics for super nintendo
>>3854571>>3854577my dnd campaign heavily simplified movement by playing the game on 30 foot tiles with 1 space of movement instead of 5 foot squares and 6 spaces of movement. It significantly speeds up the game. The game still uses opportunity attacks, engagement and an intercepting/fall-in/defense mechanic/universal-tanking mechanic
>>3838489I'm playing the demo of Unicorn Overlord and this is the first time I'm playing a game like this so I have to ask. Do I have to make my units into little "adventurer groups" of mixed units rather than grouping all the Calvary, Spearmen, and Archers together?
Trs: berwick saga the lazberia chronicles chapter 174 is pretty good Fe if it wasn't bad
>>3852048Its always been SRPG in the country or origin where the S stands for simulation. TRPG is a westerner thing.
>>3855029You can have multiple teams if that's what you are asking
>>3855001>Modded psp TacOg is SSSS+ tierNow imagine the game wouldn't have bugs at all
>>3838720Funny, had a similiar name in another thread: tactical isometric rog: TIRPG. If using this term, we can unite two nieches, crpg and trpg.
>>3855384That is not what I'm asking, what I'm asking is that the game is teaching me to set up diverse adventurer groups rather than a unit. I'm wondering how feasible it would be to group all units who are similar together like in a traditional army.
>>3855390You can but a lot of that would just be inefficient for a variety of reasons. Similarly the one of each thing isnt wise either. Its all about synergy.
>>3855390Right. I didn't thought you are this... New to games. It's the same as in age of empires. Do this and get eradicated fast by the next best weakness. Think of every unit standing for 30 men.
>>3855407I'm not new to RTS I am new to TRPGs, I played a little bit of Fire Emblem more than 10 years ago, but I wasn't building units in that one, it was just individual heros you ordered about.
>>3855421Uo is an interesting gamePlayed the demo and loved the vast amount of valid builds or teams. Dislike auto battles though.
>>3855433UO is not an auto battler.
>>3855435Feels like one for me. Other than that I detest the constant screen switching. No need for that at all.
>>3838940Not released, yet
>>3838940Never heard of it until now and judging off of this picture alone its probably not going to be my thing.
>>3855433The demo throws a lot at you quickly, props on them making it so digestible but it is a tad overwhelming.
>>3855457The demo is awesome. I just don't like the constant screen flickering. I'd rather have all the units all the time in the viewfield.
>>3855291Berwick Saga is Kaga's best game. I like TRS but it copies too much from FE, and it has a lot of convoluted shit that you would never guess to do unless you look up a guide. BS took the core gameplay of FE, reworked it in a way that adds depth and makes it more engaging.
>>3855467I don't mind the screens, but what I didn't like is how they kept on switching up the buttons on you, like I don't mind flipping manually through options if it means that I keep the same button scheme in each window
>>3855435Oh look it's the "UO is not an auto battler" anon.
>>3855509nta but thank god it isn't because I already have enough analysis paralysis already with the game.
>>3855523It is an autobattler
>>3855537-with customizable AI, but doesn't change the fact it begins as an autobattler when there are no existing conditions
>>3855508That was indeed buffling. Handling and controls in general are bad. Too many menus.
>>3855545buffling?
>>3855552Baffling*Autocorrect got me
>>3855559I didn't mind the menus it was the:X BUTTON DOES THIS ON THE MAPBUT IN THIS MENU IT DOES THISAND IN THIS MENU YOU NEED TO PRESS X TO TAKE YOU TO A NEW MENUWHERE X NOW DOES SOMETHING DIFFERENTI'm sure there is a reason for it but it was kinda overwhelming when its your first TRPG
>>3855572I did understand it just fine. For me it's a lot of menu handling and I'm sure this could've been done better. Everyone knows that vanillaware increases their production value each game and this almost breaks them. I'm looking forward to their jew game, an arpg apparently. Hopefully a real rpg that looks and feels like dragons crown
>>3839202Jean darc pspBannermaidenOrder of plumeHoshigamiVandal heartsBahamoot lagoonBlack sigilTactics ogre rebornFront missionXcom 1,2>t.played all tactics games
i'm playing with One vision mod, but the first Gates of Almorica battle at the end of Chapter 2 (with Xapan and the witch)What am i supposed to do? The enemy charges forwards, but they have some many healers on the backline that even if surround Xapan i still might not do enough damage.
>>3855956Healers are weak to archers, rune knights and griffons, maybe cockatrices. Does your equipment suck? Keeping healers busy with status effects? Poison fucks enemy ai decision making, at least in tor.
XCOM 2 aside, what are other TRPG's that have a robust character creation/customization system?
>>3856025Literally this >>3838940Troubleshooter is autismo bonanza after you learn how the mastery board works.
>>3856025>XCOM 2 aside, what are other TRPG's that have a robust character creation/customization system?
>>3856078not the anon you are responding too, but I didn't like FT at all. Maybe if I had played F1 and F2 it would have clicked better.
>>3856066Still ea...>>3856025Try fell seal, an fft clone.
>>3856238>Still ea...What the actual fuck are you talking about? It's been out for years now and the sequel is being worked on as we speak.https://store.steampowered.com/app/470310/TROUBLESHOOTER_Abandoned_Children/
>>3856263Ye...wtf. It's like out for years. Unfortunately not for Snoys. What's the sequel called? Guess I have to play it on my laptop then. I've heard fantastic tales about it, seems to be an excellent game. It's not class/job based, right?
>>3856369>>3856263Bansihed children. Hopefully for consoles this time.
>>3856369>What's the sequel called?Troubleshooter: Banished Children and it is still a work in progress. You can read more of it here https://steamcommunity.com/games/470310/announcements/detail/514085449373843491>I've heard fantastic tales about itIt's a good game but not for everyone so don't keep your expectations too high. Moreover, the budget seems to be on the lower side and the dev had to make it up with passion and autism. At first glance, it seems a clone of nuXCOM but that's only a surface level. I find it closer to FFT, personally.>It's not class/job based, right?No, not really. Every character has a starting class and two advanced but that's the extent of it. You should still max out all three because they unlock a few things, including active skills.What matters is the mastery board. Every level you get a point to increase your capacity and every few levels, you unlock a slot for a new mastery. Every mastery costs a set number of points to equip yourself with. You pick masteries, put them into slots and keep in mind not to go above the point limit. Masteries also have sets, so the trick is to build your board with as many sets as you can squeeze in. Basics are easy to understand but to truly get good at it takes some time.About the story, it's a slow burn of a Korean urban fantasy. Again, not for everyone. There are threads on the game on /vst/ every now and then. I lurked on them while playing it.
>>3856369>It's not class/job based, right?It is. Every character has 1 base class which branches into 2 advanced classes that they can freely swap between. But unlike a lot of RPGs, there's a ton of genuine freedom within each class for different ways of building a character. The same character in the same class might be a sneaky glass cannon assassin, or a mega tank who regenerates HP, or steals buffs from enemies, or has a ton of auto-triggered attacks that make them dangerous to approach, or have no auto triggered attacks and just do tons of damage on their own turn, or be an aurabot that supports the other units, etc. Classes give them some unique abilities that can define or compliment your build but for the most part they don't dictate how you play the character.Enemies play by the same rules too rather than just being stat blobs, which makes the mid to lategame a lot of fun when they start to get real builds.
>>3856382>Again, not for everyoneUrban fantasy, eh? All these srpg have shit settings. Only fft(a) and to did good in that regard. Still going to try it out.>>3856390Really? Unsure how exactly that works out. Needs to play for myself, I guess. The other anon said leveling up unlocks some slots.
>>3856445>All these srpg have shit settingsEh, I think the fantasy or sci-fi settings are good despite being trite at this point. I think Urban Fantasy is a very Asian favored setting due to how urban all these countries are. There's an appeal that doesn't really translate over to non-asian cultures perhaps because of that?
>>3856445>The other anon said leveling up unlocks some slots.Yeah, the character building setup looks like this. Each slot gets filled with masteries that do stuff. Some are just stat boosts, some are active skills, some are passive triggers for things like counterattacks. There are mastery sets as well from having specific combinations of masteries equipped. They can make masteries stronger, or add completely new effects.
>>3856461It's the particular world building, not the category fantasy or scifi. Asian uf is awesome, see yakuza 7. I dislike the kpoop demon hunters though.>because of that?Obviously because of that.
>>3856467Disgusting ui, worse than fell seal. Come now, a decent ui can't cost much.Never mind, the system looks really basic, thats for sure. As long as the gameplay holds up, that's secondary.
>>3856472>Never mind, the system looks really basicIt is but only on lower levels. From the midgame onwards, it becomes pretty complicated but luckily at that point you understand it without getting overwhelmed.>Disgusting uiI disagree, in my opinion, it looks fine, fitting for the setting. It's also readable, especially after you play around with it a bit.
>>3856472It spirals into Yugioh shit
>>3856483Never played it. Meaning what exactly?
>>3856476>it becomes pretty complicatedSry, didn't see yours. I mean, I don't know. The complexity comes from the amount of options. All in all I'd always choose a basic well implemented system over a complex buggy system. Yakuza 7 is basic af, but fun nevertheless.It's readable and does fit the setting. Let's find common ground here.
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