>please watch all these ads
Not an RPG.

>>3840063
Cautiously optimistic. Seems much better than the first game. Fills a void of a decent RPG during the second half of the year. I like space settings, espectiall for RPGs since it's so rare.

That's basically my thoughts.

>>3840063
>Hopes
None
Dreams?
Of new Vegas
>Fears
That it will not kill Obsidian

you would have to pay me 70 american dollars to play this

I hope it flops on its tranny face.

>>3840063
Was the first game really enough of a success to justify making a sequel? I played it and while it had some amusing moments here and there, I thought it was mostly mediocre to bad.

>>3840220
>Was the first game really enough of a success to justify making a sequel?

Obsidian's schtick is making moderately budgeted games that are solid and sell enough.
From Microsofts POV Outer Worlds fills a kind of similar niche as Fallout, which we won't see a new mainline game in a very long time since Bethesda's next game is Elder Scrolls.
Starfield was also a massive flop, so MS is probably looking to see if they can turn Outer Worlds into an ongoing series (because we're never getting a Starfield 2).

>>3840221
I just don't believe a California dev can really be that low budget. It's still probably 2-3x Japanese dev costs for comparable production values, nevermind Chinese-language outsourcing mills. Meaning they probably need to be selling a million or so real copies to be in the black if you include whatever subsidy they get from Microsoft for producting Live content.

>>3840230
>I just don't believe a California dev can really be that low budget.
It is low budget for the type of games they're making. The cost of making Outer Worlds is incomparible to Starfield.
You can even see the budget and one of the major complaints on this board was people expecting something on the level of Skyrim in terms of scope.

>It's still probably 2-3x Japanese dev costs for comparable production values
Living and working in japan is very expensive. Odd choice for your example.

>Chinese-language outsourcing mills
Almost all games make use of outsourcing. Virtuous being one of the more common ones that has a footprint in china and the like. Yes, including most american companies.

In case it wasn't obvious, Outer Worlds 1 made enough money to greenlit a sequel with a higher budget.
And for now it fills a niche with being a first person sci-fi (space) RPG. Not exactly a ton of these going around.

>>3840239
>You can even see the budget and one of the major complaints on this board was people expecting something on the level of Skyrim in terms of scope.
Are you talking about Avowed? With Outer Worlds people wanted Space New Vegas.

People need to think of Obsidian as a straight to Game Pass dev. You really aren't supposed to buy their games outright.

>>3840239
Jap game budgets are like a third of US and western European ones for stuff that has similar scope and polish, despite it not being a cheap place. And that was before the yen lost a shitload of value relative to investments that are often in dollars. Someone could construct a post-hoc explanation for it but it's also just how it is.

>>3840220
It sold 5 million copies, reviewed very well, and won several awards. You guys don't have to like the game, but it is very easy to tell you guys get your opinions from rage baiting YouTubers.

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>>3840320
I get my opinions from myself, I don't watch gaming youtubers since I've got a normal number of chromosomes. I legitimately didn't know how well it did, hence me asking.

>>3840063
>hopes
you committing suicide
>dreams
you committing suicide
>fears
you not committing suicide

>>3840322
They gave away shitloads of free copies and count downloads on Game Pass as sales. I got it with a GPU on EGS for free. It did good enough, and it adds value to Game Pass. Grounded is Obsidian's real moneymaker now.

>>3840334
Companies do not count those copies in sales, dumbass.

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>>3840338
I mean, I'm never going to convince you because it's not like they are going to advertise, so whatever. But this isn't 5 million sales.

Steamchart posting retard, the game is on 6 other platforms.

Damn, Obsidiots get so mad. I already said they were counting Game Pass downloads.

>>3840348
>>3840342
Snake Eater Delta had less players and sold a million copies in a day. Do you like being a retard?

>>3840348
See:>>3840338

>>3840350
Sure, a million is nothing and kojimatards don't play games on Steam.

I like that they added third person mode and equipment that gives you a double jump. I have no idea why there is such a hate boner for Obsidian.

>>3840352
I think they do. :)

>>3840354
>I have no idea why there is such a hate boner for Obsidian
It's because they don't often make good RPGs and they have a history of buggy unfinished or mediocre titles, so they are divisive.
The real amusing part of shitting on Obsidian is how dedicated and angry their fanboys are, they believe the company can do no wrong. Been like that for many many years.

>>3840356
Their games are no more buggy than CDPRs, Larian, or Owlcat's, or Bethesda's

>>3840358
I'm not a fanboy, anon, you can't get to me. I didn't like most of Larian's games except BG3 with is held back by 5th edition, Bethshit sucks, hate the Witcher, and Owlcat is buggy BG clone in a middling system somewhat saved by a TB mod. All those companies get shit on and also have fanboys, but Obsidiots feel extra put upon and invent theories like
>you guys get your opinions from rage baiting YouTubers
Shit is hilarious.

>I like BG3

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All smiles here, OP.

Just finished OW1 and I can say they have a skeleton of a good game but not the meat. Too few guns, no enemy variety, shallow quests. Enough for me to give OW2 a look in the future I guess

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>>3840353
>don't play games on Steam
Why do you assume a bulk of people play Outer Worlds on steam? This isn't Europa Universalis or something. Most people play these types of games on console.
Fact is Outer Worlds sold enough for a bigger budget sequel. Games that flop don't do that. Microsoft even shut down tons of games and studios, yet Obsidian and Outer Worlds 2 remained.

It's like you people are against the idea that Obsidian and their games sell well enough to keep trucking along.
Obsidian has never had a game that was a a huge mainstream success. The closest is New Vegas, but even that was more niche and more popular amongst hardcore players. Getting most of the sales slowly over time.

>>3840356
>The real amusing part of shitting on Obsidian is how dedicated and angry their fanboys are, they believe the company can do no wrong
? The haters are the only passionate ones here. They are downright zealous. They scream about games they don't even play and screech about trannies and stuff until their faces turn blue. Even on this board there is no group of haters more passionate.
We downright have a thread hating on Obsidian and Avowed over bread physics.

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>>3840391

>>3840391
>? The haters are the only passionate ones here. They are downright zealous. They scream about games they don't even play and screech about trannies and stuff until their faces turn blue. Even on this board there is no group of haters more passionate.
Posted without any passion or angst about "haters" and his poor lil' dev. Do you cry about Bethesda getting shit on constantly? You seem underage.

>>3840404
Why are you deflecting and pretending that Obsidian doesn't have passionate haters? Especially on this board? Even more so by using logical fallacies and personal attacks while trying to come across as mature in your deflection.

>>3840406
Oh god, it's this type of poster.
Obsidian gets no more "hate" than any other developer. Why are you crying about it? The only thing I can think is that you're immature or a pussy. You don't see Bethtards throwing a fit and claiming that Youtubers are turning people against them.

>>3840415
>more deflection and most of the post are baseless insults
>zero mental awareness
>zero reading comprehension
Yes you're clearly the level-headed and mature person you think you are. Nevermind, I shouldn't have expected rationality from how you initially responded, even after giving you the benefit of the doubt.

>>3840420
C'mon, I know you're just shitposting and you don't even care. You need an enemy and I'm not playing correctly, right?
God forbid you go outside your talking points.
>mental awareness
lol, yes, awareness is mental, being aware is a quality of the mind.

Well, I don't want to bully a kid with bad English, so I'm outtie.

>>3840077
You should hope that this does kill Obsidian actually, they are a husk of what they were.

>>3840432
I'm perfectly fine with Obsidians output and I'd rather have more RPGs than less.

>>3840392
The same people begging for bread physics will be hating on Creation Engine in the next thread

>>3840432
>they are a husk of what they were.
Ah, you're one of those retards.

>>3840063
I can't believe they are making a second one, considering the first one was a flop and it just reitared the common notions not even exploring things in-depth

>>3840491
See:>>3840320
Cope.

>>3840495
>salesfag
I dont care, sales are normalfag metrics, because most of the normalfags don't even finish games, when you look at metrics like Steam achievements.

>>3840497
words actually have meaning, retard.

>>3840415
you are obviously wrong
t. nta

>>3840063
>buy our way to victory!
I clicked a random point in the "gameplay" trailer and I immediately got "the one joke"
coming from a product funded by a billion dollar conglomerate or whatever this is, this shit isn't just forced. it feels like counter-programming. it's at least controlled opposition

>more Rick and Morty
>quirky chungus corporate ad jingles
>CAPITALISM BAD, please pay us 70 bucks for our AA game or Billford Hates castrates us
>diversity is our strength
>don't you just love eating literal pimples on pigs rather than their meat?
>society so dumb it cannot figure out sustainable fishing or agriculture
>

>>3841030
>makes fun of something
>completely misses the actual jokes that makes fun of people like him
like pottery, i bet you thought starship troopers wasn't satire either until someone told you

>>3841036
I don't give a toss about sneedchuck troopers
everyone being retarded in outer worlds is not a good plot, it's just borderlands all over again

>>3841042
the point is that you're making fun of something that you don't understand and the very thing it makes fun of is people not understanding it

>>3841030
this is a AAA game.

>>3841036
Starship Troopers is a poor example, because the director accidentally nailed it and wrapped around the ends of the scale and made a great adaptation in spirit, if not textual fidelity. That they cling to this trope is a pithy illustration of the fact that while right-wingers can understand what leftists think and why, leftists cannot understand what right-wingers think and why.
>t. read the book

>>3841135
>because the director accidentally nailed it
No, his entire schtick is to satirize american movies and america itself. Satire is what he does. Robocop, Starship Troopers, Total Recall and even Showgirls are all satire. Dumb people think Starship Troopers is either propaganda or a serious action movie.

>>3841136
Yes, anon, hence the "accidentally" in "accidentally nailed it". Maybe if he'd read the book he would've been better able to satirize it.

>>3840063
I have no hope but if it ends up being good I'll be pleasantly surprised.
The setting is boring af though and I don't think modern obsidian has what it takes to make it interesting.

>supposed "rpg" gamers caring more about muh setting, muh writing, and muh cinematics than the actual mechanics

>supposed "rpg" developers caring more about muh setting, muh writing, and muh cinematics than the actual mechanics

>>3841621
Thankfully, this doesn't apply to The Outer Worlds 2.

>>3841621
The mechanics were the worst part of outer worlds though. It was like new vegas with all the interesting items and perks taken out.

>>3841566
this

>>3840063
I don't care enough about it to even consider pirating it.
I care about it just enough to post in this thread and proclaim that I don't care about it.

>>3840063
The first one was genuinely the most profoundly mediocre RPG I've ever played, every single thing in that game ranged from subpar to okayish, all being pretty lame. Goes in line with Obsidian being a skinwalker company in which most of the people aren't those that worked on their actually notable games. I expect OW2 to be more or less the same mediocre and forgettable waste of time as the first one

>>3841620
That would be a valid point if the mechanics were good in some way

>>3841802
Your monkey ass can't even explain what the mechanics are.

>>3841804
>What if Fallout NV but with 0 weapons or enemy variety and there are also no perks or anything interesting.
There retard

>>3840063
Did they fix the fact that the '''criticism of corporatism''' came off as if it was made to be so absurd that people who were on the fence about hating corporations would say, "no this is silly, anti-corpo fags are retarded."

>>3841892
See also: Cyberpunk 2077

Hopes: It gets cancelled
Fears: Obsidian cons more people into spending money on their woke trash

>>3842495
>woke trash
If their games are woke, so are every other modern RPG. BG3, KC2, etc.

>>3842495
>woke
I wish. There's no game where I can roleplay as a gay furry.

>>3842554
>If their games are woke, so are every other modern RPG. BG3, KC2, etc.
Yes. Did you think you were making a counter-point there?

>>3842601
The point is if you're that sensitive you can't have played an RPG in the last 10 years.

>>3840063
after genious writing of the 1st one which is
>corporations which are all about mass producing cheap useless shit and selling it to the masses cannot figure out how to mass produce food so everyone is starving to death but cannot figure whats going on
I expect absolutely nothing and I am not even going to bother with this atrocious shit
I still have nightmares from how ugly ship ai avatar was btw
it was ugliest female portrait I have ever seen in gaming

>>3842554
their game is forced woke. bg3 is true neutal where you can be as woke as you want or as anti-woke as you want, thats why people like it so much. learn the difference.

>>3842637
>corporations which are all about mass producing cheap useless shit and selling it to the masses cannot figure out how to mass produce food so everyone is starving to death but cannot figure whats going on
sounds like real life

>>3842639
>bg3 is true neutal where you can be as woke as you want or as anti-woke as you want
You are a liar, and a bad one at that. Anyone who’s played the game knows this is complete bullshit.

>>3842639
You don't choose how woke a game is. BG3 is far more woke and even has cuckoldry involving the player, where you're the cuck. If characters are woke and do woke things, it's woke.

>>3842637
You forgot to mention
>corporations distribute weapons so widespread that you can purchase fully automatic rifles from vending machines
>somehow there hasn’t been mass rioting on every planet despite people having no food
Even North Korea has civil unrest when food scarcity gets critical. No amount of top down indoctrination will change basic human needs.

>>3842651
Also the most damning thing isn't the people as a whole rebelling against you.
If you use enforcers, they're gonna get real nervous when they do some mental math and realize that if the workers are starving then soon they'll be starving.
Enforcers may not always be good long term thinkers, but they are good at dispensing violence.
All it takes is an ambitious officer (especially if he's received a lot of praise/is famous for good order in action) rallying loyal men to lead a coup and then your Board is replaced with a military junta.

>>3842651
>>3842678
It's cute how autistically serious you take this but is extremely loose with every other game, like Elder Scrolls of Fallout.

>>3842691
this is a thread about the Outer worlds you fucking nigger, not elder scrolls or fallout

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oh good another game for "that" crowd to be their metaphorical hill to die on

>>3842753
Making the logical connection between what this game shares with Fallout and Elder Scrolls, plus the overlapping fanbase, is hard for you.
But you seem to enjoy being a hypocrite.

>>3842784
go be a retard somewhere else

>>3842790
Unfortunately you have a monopoly on retardation, as you clearly showed.

>>3842792
>responds to posts with off topic whataboutism
>not retarded
shill your tranny game somewhere else nigger

>>3840239
>Living and working in japan is very expensive. Odd choice for your example.
What the fuck are you talking about, Japan is cheap as fuck
I live in Tokyo and Californian prices are complete fantasy numbers to me

>>3842796
>off topic
It's to highlight your retardation and hypocrisy. Fallout and Outer Worlds share a lot of (intentional) similarities, including people that worked on both games, etc.
I could explain great detail why it's relevant, but we both know you will still act like a toddler because that's all you know how to do. So run along now and cry someplace else.

>>3842801
explain why you talked about elder scrolls and fallout when both posts didn't mention either mr tard?

>>3842802
Explain why you deflect and backpedal, lowering board quality and behavlng like a literal child incapable of basic discussion. Or don't, proving everything I said about you is correct.

>>3840063
The first game was average and terribly boring. Deadfire was just bad. This is going to be shit.

>>3840063
>Hopes?
That the game is great so this board has a meltdown.

>>3840063
>obsidian
is gonna be shit.

>>3842784
Assmad sub 80 IQ shill is mad kek. Not buying your nonbinary tranny game, nigger.

>>3842691
Your game has bad writing and its world isn’t believable nor is it engaging. Your product is shit and will flop. Enjoy losing your job in October.

>>3842946
>>3842947
>so assmad he has to samefag

>>3840328
hi

>Hopes:
-More fleshed out companions, each one having at least 3-4 quests. In OW1 only Parvati and Vicar had satisfying stories.
-More firearms, at least double first game's arsenal. I kept using the same 5 guns in OW1.
-Meaningful game impacting perks, none of this +10% stat bullshit
-Longer story
-at least one big hub/town/location. I expected Byzantium to be just that in the first game and it turned out disappointingly small with most buildings closed down.

And most importantly by far :
Better CHOICES that arent like in OW1 where almost every quest is
>side with A
>side with B
>Make a compromise which is clearly the best option in every situation

>Expectations :
None of the above turn out true and the sequel will just be OW1 but 20% bigger

I thought this already came out. Anyway, the first one didn't live up to expectations with all the old school talent attached to it. I doubt modern Obsidian can pull another classic.

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>>3843805
The companions already seem way more interesting than the ones in the first game, just design wise. And the game has over 90 weapons, and new weapon types confirmed. And the perks we know about are way better than the first game, it seems.

>>3843977
Sounds good, shame they liked out on pricing. If the game is the way you're describing I wouldn't mind shilling out 60 euros for it

>>3843977
>8s stun
Brutal.

>>3844202
Why would you need someone stunned for 8 seconds? Surely time to kill most targets isn't going to be longer than that, right?

>>3844204
Good for crowd control, I guess. Stun one enemy then kill the others.

>>3840063
Is the first game fun? It's on sale now for dirt cheap and I ran out of games to play.

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>>3840063
If Outer Worlds 2 follows the same pattern as it's predecessor by continuing to make every NPC in the game killable I'll buy it and all the DLC. For all the game's flaws, Outer Worlds 1 still ultimately surpasses most open world RPGs because of that simple mechanic alone. I'm not interested in RPing some diehard turbo murderhobo but I need to know the option to kill any NPC is there in order to feel any sense of real player freedom. Nothing is gayer and cringier than an RPG Mayor going unconscious for 60 seconds after I rape him so hard that his intestines comes out of his ass and I light him on fire and crush his skull and freeze him to absolute zero while inflicting him with lethal poison and electrocuting the fucking piss out of his nose. It breaks immersion

>>3842800
>I live in Tokyo
Very cool. Can you help me get a better grasp of the Japanese economy? How much would it cost to buy your little sister's panties out of a soda machine in Tokyo for example? And what if let's say I also wanted to buy her a soda too so she can enjoy a nice cold Coca Cola alongside being made to gag on her stinky underwears for our mutual entertainment I'm probably going to have to spend like idk uh approximately 6 million yen in this situation correct? Is that a lot?

>>3842598
Did you not get the memo about Baulders Gay 3 or Harry Potter Hogwarts Legacy? Technically they're classified as RPGs but they're really just lgbtqpp coomer fetish simulator games in disguise

>>3840063
>Hopes?
more interesting companions, more planets, more consequences for your actions. the game needs to be bigger and more immersive
>Dreams?
ship to ship space combat, even if its some kind of scripted event where you just make general choices about maneuvering and weapon use.
>Fears?
Its just more of the first game, which was good but not good enough to warrant a sequel.

>>3844293
>everyone can be killed
True. Big reason why Oblivion was a downgrade from Morrowind.

>>3840320
>It sold 5 million copies
bullshit, it was probably bundled free with a bunch of other tranny shit and put on gamepass or something

>>3844627
Is it so hard to believe that a game that came out during a dry period of first person RPGs and Fallout, that a new sci-fi first person RPG from some of the main people behind the Fallout games were helming a new series would sell well?
Is it really so hard to believe that not everyone is a spiteful bitter asshole that hates on anything Obsidian does?
Is it really so hard to believe when Outer Worlds 2 is being released with a higher budget than the first?

Maybe you should stop letting 4chan gaslight you.

>>3840320
These days, sales are only a measure of marketing.

>>3844664
Marketing, word of mouth and being lucky enough to breach the normalfag market is how even mid games becomes successes.

>>3840063
>Hopes
level designs are going to be on par or better with avowed or grounded level design which were pretty good in that department [rating somewhat unlikely, I think it's a different team]
>Dreams
pussy fucking a perfect clone of pre boobjob Katja Kassin someday
>Fears
Taxes

frankly I'm not looking forward to the game and I will most likely not play it

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>I'm yearning and earning for you
>My heart and revenue
>Every last bit of my wage
>Every last bit that I'm paid
>Every last bit that I save is intended for yooouuu
>Although the cost may be high
>One day, I know you'll be MIIINEEE
>Someday, perhaps, I'll own two
>For now, I'll take one that's brand new
>Cause I'm yearning and earning...
>FOR YOOOOOUUUUU
>FOR YOOOOOUUUUU
>Although the cost may be high
>One day, I know you'll be MIIIIIIIIIINE
>'Till then, I will be true
>There's nothing I wouldn't do
>I've been yearning and earning...
>For all of yoooooooooouuuuu

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>>3840374
>I'm your friend, buy my game (wink wink) please

>>3840063
>all White men except for the actors they used in their cringe skits
what's happening at Obsidian?