Better than the original or not? I have the original but never played more than five minutes of it.
>>3846644It's basically as perfect as a remake can get. Exact same story, just with updated visuals and gameplay. It's a new translation from the original western release, so the lines are different from what people remember. It's supposed to be more accurate to the Japanese, with a more word-for-word approach, but some fans miss the lines from the more thought-for-thought translation that was the original release. It's one of those things where you can't make everyone happy, there's pros and cons to both approaches. That aside, you're not going to be disappointed.
>>3846646Alright, thanks!
>>3846647There's also a handful of lines that have been altered slightly for "modern audiences." None of it is that big a deal, and the lines have been changed in the Japanese version of the game too, they weren't only changed in the localization. It's not really going to impact your enjoyment of the game, but that is there and I would say it's a very minor problem. Other than that though everything seems perfect and exactly what I hoped it would be.
>>3846649Thats good to know, i'll still give the game a try though
>>384664491 on Metacritic. Unironic GOTY contender.
>>3846644Depends on who you ask. I've never managed to get into Trails because I could never make it past the prologue in Sky FC. Been sitting on several of these games in my collection for years, and I couldn't touch them because of that.Then I tried the demo of this remake, and now I'm playing the full game proper. Whether it's thanks to the remake, or something else, at least now I can actually start playing Trails.
I already played this a long time ago and forgot it except for the big parts.I just started yesterday until the first big tutorial and I am thoroughly impressed already. The little additions they did stands out a lot. Estelle was already charming before, now she's much more charming really.I love the graphical update and how it looks, retro but modernized if that makes any sense.
9/10 so far. It shows Falcom desperately needs to fire all their current writers, which they probably will given how this game written by 3 people is being received extremely well in 2025, unlike the rest of their garbage games.
>>3846644See >>3847431, it even works for retards!
>>3846646It honestly just shows how GOOD the original game was compared to modern Trails installments.
>>3846644It's worse than the original which was already bad anyways.
Yeah I am playing my review copy right now
Grumzz said not to buy this one.
>>3846644>Better than the original or notAs of now i would actually say yes. It is faithful, has a proper non-fanfic translation, good graphics, good turn-based system, you can choose between 3 different OSTs with the original included, panties are still in and Nightmare difficulty is pretty fun. Im like 10 hours in and i love it so far. Probably my personal GOTY.
let me put it this way, is there ANY reason you should play the original vs the remake?
>>3847838Some people do prefer the translation of the original and think it has more character. Also, some of the terminology in the remake, while it can still be considered correct, is inconsistent with terms used in the rest of the series. People have also pointed out that two very minor NPCs have different names than in the original, similar, but just translated differently. People have pointed out that it's an issue because those characters also appear in future games, so if you play the remake duology and then move onto the original versions of later entries, those characters' names won't be consistent.
>>3847884lmao sorry i just find that funny
>>3847838The original looks better.
How is it GungHo fucked up the Grandia remaster so bad but Trails got the AAA treatment? The camera jumping around so much in battles is a little too much for me but overall they did a great job.
Should i give this try if the orginal bored me too much after 1 hours?
>>3847838OG with the EVO voice patch has significantly more voice acting and the art style is 10000 times better. Remake's better otherwise.
>>3847939This is an in-house remake by Falcom. GungHo's just the publisher in the west.
>>3847884which NPCsIs it Anton I swear they can't have fucked up Anton
>>3847948No you should probably go back to watching people scream on tiktok, sounds more your speed.
>>3848147Armand and Ellie are called Areum and Aria in the remake. Also the Esmelas Tower is now called the Jade Tower, and that one could be a bit of a problem because later games in the series still call it the Esmelas Tower and that could be confusing if you aren't aware of the translation difference.
>>3848155>Jade Towerthat's kinda gay. Do they call the sepith Jade too instead of Esmelas? That takes a chunk of the flavour out of probably the most important system in the game and the setting - I'm not really a fan of that. >Armand and Elliemmm a little annoying but still pretty small characters at the end of things. Iirc I don't remember them showing up in 3rd, so it's just the cameo in crossbell that's getting impacted there, which isn't like... the worst thing?
>>3848255Jade Tower is the actual name. The other one is fanfic.
>>3848444I think I'd prefer consistent terminology in the series over absolute accuracy. Although I guess they'll probably keep remaking games after this so maybe they'll eventually make all the games match up again.
>>3848444You have to remove the notion of “original” and separate it completely from the discussion of “better” which is what we’re trying to talk about here. It’s a completely different conversation. (Jade tower isn’t the actual name either, it’s some shit in japanese)
No timeline nonsense from Kai right?
>>3848630Reception would go form positive to overwhelmingly negative if it had anything to do with nu-Trails. This is a faithful remake, with the caveat that it has a few new quests written by the people who wrote Daybreak and Kai, and the dialogue is absolutely atrocious and serves as a reminder of how bad those games are.
>>3848630Nah it's an almost completely 1:1 remake with the only changes being to the combat and the addition of a few new quests and some travel dialogue between Estelle and Joshua. As the other guy said though the new stuff clashes with the old because modern Falcom's writers have none of the charm of the original but thankfully it's a very small part of the game.
>>3846644I think the original offers a more consistent package. The remake has a lot of weird cutscenes that have bad camera/character acting and the environments vary wildly in detail. The combat isn't good in either game, but original is much more "fuck it, move on" when it's not engaging.Honestly, I'm not sure what would get someone into the remake aside from "it's newer and 3D!" It's the same game.
>>3846646I feel like a perfect remake would either stay more faithful in presentation and gameplay or be wildly different on purpose to act as a compliment. See Star Ocean 2 Remake and Shadow of the Ninja Remake for examples of both.
>>3847838The originals localization is why everyone remembers Estelle so fondly. It was superior to the original Japanese script unless you're a diehard weaboo. Also there is no censorship of scenes such pic related. The remake unfortunately removed some gendered remarks and in general feels like MTL. Terminology and names have also been changed. Gameplay is much better though.Original > Remake
>>3849311that scene is entirely fanfic though
>>3849311>>3849317How does it happen in the original Japanese?
>>3849317The sentiment of Estelle being displeased at Olivier is clear, even the reaction image is the same. While in the remake it's "Oh so you have that kind of preference? Naruhodo."
>>3849311"diehard weaboo" is when you don't like when obnoxious infantile writing is forced into a game, I guess?
>>3849311I think the Xseed version made too many pointless extensions/rewrites and fucked up a few lines, but the overall script is good. More than 3/4ths of lines are 1:1, and a lot of the liberal lines are just moving phrasing around to flow better in English of changing the intensity/focus of a line because Japanese isn't the same as English.Like, I wouldn't call the made up shit a strength, but the translation is more good than bad. The new translation is mostly bad despite having a higher degree of accuracy. I think the ideal solution would be to borrow Xseed's phrasing for accurate lines and then retranslate the remainder.
>>3849326Its not quite THAT sterile in the remake. Obviously she looks less hostile but its not just naruhodo, she is shocked. I honestly expected that any kind of reference to the original line would disappear but there is still something.
>>3849421To be fair the eng dub gave me that impression
>>3849336>落とし前をつける is a weirdly legal termLmao wut? No, that's like a thuggish way of telling someone you'll make them take responsibility for an affront. The localization maintains the tone and intent of that line much better than what is being framed as the more accurate translation.Every time I see presumably novice Japanese learners make these comparison visuals, I can't help but feel they're just bitter that they have to experience localizations just like the rest of the peasantry, because they'd be going through at a snail's pace from constantly looking things up if they went with the source material instead. And then in an effort to display that they haven't been wasting their time, they end up convincing gullible "diehard weaboos" such as yourself that one of the most beloved localizations in the JRPG space is actually bad.
>>3849387>>3849421Yeah, that new line is really weird.
>>3849431>eng dub>trying to tone down the gay shockI am not surprised at all.
>>3849441holy shit what a retarded text vomit, you and the localizers who make this shit are genuinely subhuman>The localization maintains the tone and intent of that line much better than what is being framed as the more accurate translation>much betterdefinitely not lol, it's just them making sure to be consistent with how they remade her to be a psycho, all of which you for some reason completely ignore, like dude how in the absolute fuck is "achyaaa~" = "urge to kill, RISING" (god that's cringe)>the restyou really can't comprehend that not everyone's brain is so rotten that they need all character interactions to be hecking quirky chungusplease define "diehard weaboo" for me, very curious>one of the most beloved localizations in the JRPG spaceaccording to what metrics lmao, your friends on r/Falcom?>is actually badI do considered infantile writing made by the narcissists who thought they were the better writer bad, yes
>>3849441don't bother with them, trust me they don't listen to reason
>>3849472yeah, but honestly don't even waste your time, it's just silly trolling to get your attention.
>>3849472I struggle to believe you're actually a member of this fandom if you have this little fondness for the original games as they were presented in English.
>>3849523The most Classic Trails fan behavior is telling people they're stupid for liking the game that's out and not the newest/untranslated game.
>>3849523/vg/ retards spend 90% of their time explaining why they hate the games they supposedly likeUnfortunately every trails thread on /vrpg/ will overwhelmingly have crossover with those fags
>>3849698>explaining why they hate the gamesI only talked about the localization... other than that, it's a comfy, charming little game you probably won't dislike if you like JRPGs. I think I prefer the remake a bit in terms of gameplay, and although it doesn't have quite as much soul to it, it's still a comfy, very pretty, overall good game
GungHo ban game in Russia, lol.
>>3847265Delusional.
>>3849807Based.
>>3849807>Most popular streamers on twitch were Russian with 500+ views while everyone else was around 5-10So that's why...
I might get it, despite hating every trails demo I played. Kinda intrigued by the fighting system.
The stutter makes it unplayable
>>3849983What stutter?
>>3849807who gives a shit
>>3849983All the time or in menus?
>>3846644It definitely plays better, but in terms of charm, it kind of depends on how much you can stand the modern anime paint job Falcom gave it. I'm fifteen hours in so far and I'm really liking it. Just goes to show how rock-solid Sky FC's foundation is as an idea.
>>3849994The game has got a "hiccup" every 5-10 seconds. It's happening to other people across different GPUs >>3850052All the time, everywhere
They remaking this one too?
>>3850367Sorry, no Kevin kino allowed.
>>3850278>The game has got a "hiccup" every 5-10 seconds. It's happening to other people across different GPUsThat sucks. Is it like, after a certain point in the game? I'm around 25 hours in and I havent had any stutters. Or I guess my GPU is one of the lucky ones.
>>3850370>Is it like, after a certain point in the game?no, happens as soon as you launch the game, even the main menu stutters
>>3850371PlayStation chads keep winning
>>3850370Happened to me on my 3060 in the demo.
>>3850064>Sky FC's foundation is as an idea.Que?I played the demos of all trails games and disliked them all. Shit level design, atrocious va and non existent story. (content full with ot holes and filler isn't a story)Is this something for me? I did like the combat mechanics.
>>3850385The first Trails game is character driven more than it's plot driven, at least until later in the game. The pace is definitely slow, and it's not like there's a lot of twists and turns. You have to be willing to go with it, to enjoy the vibe, and get to know the characters. I absolutely love the game, but you just have to know what it is and be okay with it. It's not a crazy story like Metaphor ReFantazio where you'll always be excited to find out what happens next in this story. It's a chill JRPG that rewards patience. And I think if you play the game to the end, you'll be very interested in playing the sequel.
>>3850371Super weird, this is the first I've heard of it. Shame I don't know how to fix it.>>3850373I'm pretty much a tech idiot so I don't remember exactly what my card was. I think it was 4080, but either way, no stutters.
>>3850390>It's a chill JRPGThat's fine with me, even its not too much sentiment and anime drama. The game I found worst was the one that starts in town with a male and female character. The guy has blue hair iirc. Cold steel? I don't remember.
>>3850396The Cold Steel games are bit more anime than the older games. Trails in the Sky does feel like anime still, but not the more cringe side of anime in my opinion. I grew to love Estelle and Joshua by the end, and I became very invested in their story. I'm by no means a weeb if that helps any.
>>3850399Ye, I think I get it. Felt like they especially went full emotion on the one I played. The other entries weren't as bad in that regard.What's the game about, why are the guys in regular clothes so super strong? Is it like ff, teen friends save the world?
>>3850445Estelle and Joshua were raised by Cassius Bright, "the Devine Blade", who is known all over for his fighting skills. In the game, they join the Bracer Guild, a non-governmental mercenary guild that takes on jobs to help people. It gets bigger than that, but it starts out very small, like you'll be going to a farm to clear out monsters or whatever. There's obviously more to it than that, and it evolves into such a grand series, but the beginnings are so small and humble.
>>3850449Pretty cool start. Stereotypical? Sure. Sounds good, I like it so far.
>>3850454There is sort of a nostalgic feeling to it, and kind of wholesome too. I really like the game and the series as a whole. I hope you'll give it a shot and see if you like it.
>>3850457I think I will. How long is it?
>>3850466It depends, because a lot of people love talking to every NPC. The hallmark of the Trails series is that almost every NPC in the game has a name, and even has their own story that will advance as you advance throughout the adventure. It's totally optional, but a lot of people get a kick out of that. I haven't finished the remake myself yet, but for the original game if you do the story and a lot of the side quests it'll probably be maybe 40 hours. The remake might be a little bit longer because it has voice acting so you won't be clicking through as fast.
>>3850468>own story that will advance as you advance throughout the adventureHard to believe. That would be the only rpg that does it. If the npc stories are interesting, why not? Just talk to them (multiple times)?>vaIdk, often enough very bad.>40 hoursReally? Thought they are long af. Ng+? The game has no classes, but a sphere grid like ffx, right?
>>3850469Might be more like 50 depending on your how you play. I can't remember exactly how long it took me to beat the original but it's definitely shorter than something like Persona 5. The NPC stories are nothing too intricate. It's just extra world building. Like there's a guy who likes a girl, and you can check in on him after a story beat and see how his love quest is advancing. It's totally skippable, but it's cool it's in there. The spheres you've seen aren't like a sphere grid. The orbment system is kind of like materia in Final Fantasy. You can slot in different quartz to increase stats and give your characters different magic abilities. The actual leveling up is traditional.
>>3850474Sounds good enough to me. That's a defining trope in jrpg and I like it. AFAIK yakuza games have such substories all the time.
>>3850499Yakuza's side stories are really little side missions where you perform tasks and beat up guys for rewards. Trails does have side quests, but the NPCs whose stories you can follow is just a little touch that you can completely avoid if you want, but a lot of Trails fans really appreciate that it's there.But anyway, it's a really high quality game, so I hope you like it.
>>3850501Really? Literally no side quests? Very interesting. Still 60h to beat, huh. Is there new game plus?
>>3850527No no. There's side quests, but the thing I described about every NPC having a name and a story doesn't lead to any side quests. It's just an extra thing. Side stories in Yakuza games are actual side quests.
>>3850370>>3850371put your game in win 8 compatibility mode. are you all tech illiterate?
>>3849421It's the 3d models reactions over the anime faces keeping me away. Otherwise it look really good.
>>3850568Why would a brand new game need to be in Windows 8 compatibility mode. Are the devs stupid?
which trails game has the best romance?
>>3850371If you're on AMD try DXVK.
>>3846644This is perfect for me, since I haven't played this game since it's original PSP X-Seed release. I only remember the ending cliffhanger, so this game feels brand new as some things come floating backI'm gonna have to resist the temptation of immediately jumping to SC after I finish though, since I never played that game and I know it's getting a remake.
>>3850642You definitely should resist the temptation, because not only is the second remake coming out soon, but in the original versions, and I assume in the remakes as well, the second game will read your finished save data from the first game, and it'll know what side quests you did in the first game, and there might be some extra dialogue when you meet those characters again in the second game.
>>3850370It's a memory leak. When I first bought it, it forced my laptop to crash and restart. I had to fucking use a fucking steam emulator to fix it. What the fuck.
>>3850568thanks, tech-support jeet, seems to work! >>3850606I'm playing on an Intel B580, however the bug crops up for any brand. I hope an official fix is put out soon
>>3850367I don't see why not. If SC is already in development (enough to where they had a teaser ready in this game), then I don't see why they wouldn't finish the trilogy.I never played 3rd. Why is Estelle more girly? Did they ruin the best girl?
>>3849421Dammit, the new graphics make Estelle nowhere near as expressive as she was in the original. She had so many different expressions for her dialogue back then.
>>3850545Do the games have replay value? Postgame?
>>3850652The original had new game plus but I never tried it out. I mean the primary draw of these games really is the story, so if you're going to replay it, it would probably be to see the story again or maybe do side quests that you missed. There's no postgame, the story ends and the credits roll. The structure of the game doesn't really lend itself to a postgame. Also the side quests are usually missable, they'll expire if you advance past certain points in the main story. These games are all about the story and the world and that's why a lot of people love them.
>>3850654Linearity isn't bad per se. If it aids the story, I favour it, as open world are all empty.
>>3850642Ignore what the other anon said. Play the original SC. It's one of the best games in the series. You can play the remake afterwards and trust me, the original will have way more soul then the remake. The remakes have changed the script where Estelle is no longer a tomboy bent on destruction and other things...
>>3850691English SC is pure fanfiction.
>>3850712And that's the best part!
>>3850367Star door 15 will not even exist. Mark my words.
>>3849421>>3850064Should I play this if I really liked the original as someone who doesn't like the typical modern JRPG? I'm looking at these screenshots and there's just nothing to them that interests me. The models are unexpressive and the dialogue doesn't convey even a tenth of the amount of personality and charm. I hate when characters all speak in that same singular "translation voice", if that makes sense.
>>3850786As someone who's played the series since 2011 and hasn't particularly liked the direction it's taken post-Zero, I'd say so. Again, it mostly amounts to Sky having a solid foundation as a game.
holy shit, I can't believe I have played Sora no Kukseki twice without fast travel
I WILL be buying the Estelle bikini DLC
>>3850879Yeah, the addition of fast travel is an unquestionable improvement over the original. It's gonna be an even BIGGER improvement in the eventual SC remake.
>>3850881>>3850879She looks like a generic npc this time around with the art direction>>3849311Looked more distinct here. If your making a traditional rpg grandia popolocrois the characters have to be charming otherwise the games a slog.
>>3850885In SC I skipped a lot of side quests just because I didn't want to spend all that time running around, so I'm excited for that.
Whoever said this game was 40 hours is a liar. I'm on chapter 2 and pushing 40 hours.
>>3850895I've got 162 hours on SC. Even if you rush it and don't grind at all 1st Chapter will be +80h
>>3850885I thought that was a portrait of Rean for a second.
>>3850917Well, it IS the Cold Steel illustrator handling all the 2D art. Thankfully, though, there's a lot fewer samefaces and middle bangs involved.
>>3850918>middle bangsHuh?>galAckshually very good graphics and lightning. This unity?
>>3850960In-house engine, the Falcom Developer Kit
>>3850960These.
>>3850652the postgame is Trails in the Sky SC and Trails in the Sky the 3rd
>>3850881Brother, you can do much better and for free.
Finally made it to chapter 3. I called the chapter 2 culprit right away but didn't expect things to escalate that much. What a ride.
>>3851114Glad you're having fun!
>>3846644>everyone raving about the game and loving it>those figuresGrim. Do Trails games just not do well on PC?
>>3851140bro are you retardedWelcome to jrpgs that aren't final fantasy or Persona 5. This is a niche board
>>3851055Now show the sexy tita outfit
>>3851147sadly this is the reality of jrpgs on pc
>>3851140Apparently on the asian side of steam it peaked at 14k. And I heard that this is the best numbers Trails game has ever seen but I couldn't verify that.
>>3851140Game is very slow and there's already been a bunch of good JRPGs recent. It's just not interesting enough to make me want to play a third.
>>3851175Yes, the combined peak was just above 19k. It was hugely successful on PC. The western number is also twice as high as the second-highest peak in the series.
>>3851175wait. all-time peak figure is not global?
>>3851198>JRPGs recent.Like what? E33?
>>3851204Falcom's retarded. They have 2 different localizers, so there's 2 different versions. One for non-JP Asia, one for Japan and the west. The combined count is nearly 20k concurrent.
>>3851055where can I find this?
>>3851208There's an explanation behind this arrangement, though. Clouded Leopard Entertainment was founded by ex-Sony of Asia staff, who localized the Cold Steel titles for Falcom back in the day. Meanwhile, western publishing became a bidding war between various publishers in the mid-10s. Prior to that, it was mostly XSeed handling Falcom's stuff - largely cause no other small publisher cared enough.
honest question because honestly I've been trying out a lot of games recently and I'm starting to get burnt out because of this but how is trails community? any known schizos?
>>3851358on 4chan? Like 80% schizos. I wouldn't talk about the games here.
>>3851358Oh, it's got plenty of schizos - especially on here. Stay away from any and all localization discussions. Stage 4 leukemia is less cancerous than that shit.
>>3851358Many good users get drowned out by 1-2 legitimate chaos agents that dedicated their lives to destroying every trails thread. I wish we had self moderation.
Does it have that weird half action half turn-based combat system that Trails Through Daybreak and its sequels had? because that never quite clicked with me.
>>3851359>>3851360>>3851361for fuck sakes is there anything they wont ruin?
>>3851368Yeah, but it's a lot more straightforward in this game. The controls aren't a total clusterfuck.
>>3846646>>3849311How did they handle the main villain in the remake? I think his name was Richard? In the original I remember one of the last scenes the main women of the cast confronted him and basically said he was a misogynist. It stuck out because of how out of left field it was and I always wondered if that was translator changes or true to the OG script.
>>3851161i have them but they keep getting deleted either by mods or the menhera modders themselves>>3851214i guess this board and thread is niche enough to keep normalfags at a minimum, so go to loverslab. you have to register though.
>>3850367They really need to remake this one at least so that the entire series could be playable on PS5. I know they're all on Steam and you can run them on a modern laptop, but not everybody wants to play games on a PC. Having the entire series playable on one console would be great.
>>3851442>you have to register though.I am not registering, those accountwall faggots need to KTS (but I have scooped out a nice 4K textures mod at nexusmods)
>>3851391You're misremembering something, Richards second in command is a woman. There is a scene where the Queen of Liberl calls his way of thinking outdated saying he views women in power as a sign of weakness. But then you realize Richard was right about everything and the series goes on to prove him right.
>>3851468you complain about registering on a modding site but have an account on nexus? i will never spoonfeed again. this is what you get for wanting to help an anon getting some better mods.
>>3851358People are telling you about the anti-fans, but Trails threads are also overrun with hardcore brand warriors who throw a shitfit if you criticize damn near anything, as well as company-defenders for *each* company involved with the series. It's a mess. You can't be positive OR negative, you'll get screamed at either way.
>>3851575pretty much. those threads both on /v/ and /vg/ are just 99% infighting. it does not matter about what. it is always just fight fight fight fight. and if there is five minutes of clarity, some schizo starts calling everyone pedos again and fighting continues. terminally online anons might be worse off than social media addicts.
>>3851525No, silly weeb, I don't have an account for anything, that mod can be downloaded by anybody. You have not spoonfed me anything since I have not earned anything through our little exchange
>>3851580>Play the Sky games>Have some issues with them>Try to talk about it online>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE>Play Calvard games>Enjoy them more than I expected>Try to talk about it online>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEI can't win.
>>3851589my bad, paisen
>>3851580I pretty much only use this board to talk about games these days. Some /vg/ threads are still fine but /v/ is a normalfag cesspool. It got really bad over the past decade. I remember moot saying that c/v/cks had the lowest IQ users but little did he know how bad things would really get.
>>3851615Josette as Amelia.Walter as Naga.
>>3851596I'm glad I'm having a good experience with the games. I just watched a YouTube video of a guy raving about the series, and he seemed so enthusiastic about it that I decided to check it out. I don't interact with "the community" at all. I'm just going through the games and loving them very much.
>>3851647I ended up disliking most of them, but I liked a couple a lot. I'd love to actually talk about what does and doesn't work, but anyone who cares enough to have that discussion is usually just not open to it.
>>3851648>love to actually talk about what does and doesn't workgive us your list, anonette
LMAO NSZ ALREADY OUT I REPEAT SWITCH NSZ ALREADY OUT
>>3851652It really just comes down to stuff like "I wish Sky 1 was written a bit differently" and "I think Daybreak 2 is funny and like the combat." Not interesting on its own, I'd just like to chime in without getting boo'd.
>>3851697What don't you enjoy about Sky 1's story?
>>3851697I think it feels like a first draft. There's a lot of parts where it writes itself in circles to get to what it wants to do when it could cut the nonsense. There's stuff it treats like big reveals that really aren't even if you were a small child that I think handling a bit differently would alleviate.An easy example is the game trying to get Estelle and Joshua to meet Morgan. They keep over explaining all this stuff and tying themselves into knots to explain why Schera isn't coming but then is and this and that, and it's kind of messy?Just having the Sky Pirates leave Josette behind in the prologue when they escape makes everything smoother. Gives Schera a reason to head to Bose as well (transporting her to the prison). Gives Schera a better chance to show off how cool and based she is *and* to set up the shadowy agents helping the Capuas out (helping Josette escape in transit). Gives Morgan a much simpler initial reason to be furious at the Bracers before we learn he's more complicated than that. Etc.Just a lot of places where the broad strokes can be tightened up so the events don't get as bogged down in minutiae. Make the meaningful details more meaningful. Maribel's "ah, you will help me with my political espionage" bit is just clunky as fuck and isn't a great way to convey her smooth operations as a discerning business woman. Game's full of stuff like that.
>>3851709I think all your ideas wouldn't improve anything, but like - this is where you go and write your fanfic anon.
>>3846644I'm playing it just for the nostalgia factor since they recreated most of the maps faithfully.Can't wait for the flying city in SC remake.
>>3851762I hope they make the final boss in SC easier. It must've taken me half an hour to beat his last phase, and I didn't even die. Just took me forever to whittle down his health.
>>3851709Meant for>>3851702
>>3851723This is exactly why I hate trying to give examples of writing problems in games. If you explain the issue but don't make up an example of how to address it, you get heckled to make one. If you make one, you get>"Uhm, that's shit"with no attempt to engage with the actual point being made.
>>3851709But they already have a good reason to go to Bose: The bracer training. And Morgan being furious at Bracer's by default is part of his character. Giving him a reason to hate Estelle and Joshua specifically would undermine that. Just like how leaving behind Josette would undermine the Sky Pirates' writing cause then they wouldn't work as tightly knit family taking care of each other.
>>3846644Fun and exciting fact Josette in her disguise wears white panties (with a bow!) but in her sky pirate outfit instead wears black panties!
>tfw both of these costumes are unlockable.
>>3849441why are you expecting a "NO LOCALIZATION :(:(:(:(" retard to actually know japanese at even a beginner level
>>3849523i see schizos like you finally found their way into here as well, huh. go suck troonslation dick somewhere else.
Just finished it. Did anybody catch all the hints about Alba the first time they played? They give a pretty big one at the first tower with Joshua getting a headache, but the game is so long that it's so easy to forget that.Now I'm having the exact same reaction I had when I beat it on PSP, except now I can immediately jump to the sequel, or wait again for the remake. Will the OG SC be tough to play if I'm used to all the remake additions?
Every time I ask if some of the shit design from the original is still present I get ignored so I'm just going to assume the game is still full of shit design and a new coat of paint isn't going to fix that.
>>3852641What about crossdressing Joshua? Can I use that for the rest of the game?
>>3852738I would highly recommend waiting for the remake. Yes there's the remake additions, but also the second game reads your save data from the first game, and remembers what side quests you did, and there's some NPC dialogue that will be different when they remember you helped them out in the first game.
>>3852767Yeah I know about that. I can easily just download a completed save file from the OG and use it for SC if I can't waitI did everything I could on Remake, and all I missed was 2 friggin chests somewhere, 2 early game enemies, and the last money/battle achievements.
>>3852809I see. Well I'd still wait for the remake because Falcom churns these games out really quickly. If you have to wait longer than a year I'd be shocked. I don't think it would feel right to go from a brand new game to a sprite based game that's supposed to be the climactic sequel.
>>3852759No. Everything else is unlocked but that. You get the bathrobe outfits for both and the maid outfit for Estelle after beating the game.
How's the NG+ with raised enemy levels?Feels like you are still way too strong for that to matter, so it's more about the fights not ending in 1 turn.
>>3852924It should start getting tough later in the game.
>>3852936Hope so. Math says that the further I get, the bigger the effects of Nightmare multiplier will be, but by endgame your characters are so busted that I only expect the final boss to be challenging with the perma rage at half health.
>>3846644I used to love these games but I took a break and played other stuff and then came back and I couldn't stand them. It's like everything about them is just designed to waste as much of your time as humanly possible. They take 2, 3, sometimes even 4 games to tell a story any other JRPG could manage in 1. And the characters and the world arent actually deep enough to compensate for this. The worldbuilding of Trails is just as generic and puddle deep as 98% of JRPGs is but theres just a lot of games so people get tricked into thinking it isn't. The characters are also just thin collections of anime tropes with no real depth, except they take 400 hours to have their "epiphany moment" where their character does a complete 180 instead of 20 like other JRPGs.The combat has potential but Falcom are extremely lazy devs who don't actually utilize any of it at all so it ends up being completely brainless. The level and world design is also the dictionary definition of the bare minimum.The series is just slop and while I do sort of have fond memories of my time with it I can't really in good conscience call it a good series anymore.
>>3852987>The combat has potentialDunno about you, but shit like the delay loops, watching the enemy do a fancy S-craft animation only for GUARD to pop up, and suddenly getting 4 turns when I had only one queued originally never fails to make me smile.
>>3852987>/fg/got poster
I moved on to SC and I'm struggling. Gonna take a bit for me to adjust to the lack of QOL additions. Might use a spoiler free guide just to not miss sidequests and items.
>>3853975If you are thinking about beating the prologue on Nightmare, think again. It's possible but requires either FC carry-overs or grinding.
woke game
>>3849472This.>>3849441You're a disgusting faggot, begone.
>>3853975which QOL additions are you referring to? I've found that the PC TiTS games have frankly excellent menus
>>3855215But wokies reinforce gender roles.Also it's a 90s anime thing, I had seen this kind of "play where everyone is crossdressing" from 3 different shows.
>>3855215that line is in the original game and her point is that they wanted to dress up just cause it was funny but used some cliche academic excuse to sell it to the facultyof couse you just wanna shitpost though
>>3855215Disingenuous faggot, that's out of context. She's saying that's what she told the school brass to get the play approved.
I was going to play through the original games after I'm done with the 1st Chapter remake. It'll give me a more objective view of what the remake did right and wrong.Plus, I've got nothing else to play except old games until the SC remake, so might as well.
Help, I'm playing SC and just reached chapter 3. Who should I use in my party? I hate decisions like this because it takes me forever to decide. I loved how FC forced party members in until the finale, now I have to choose between Zane, Tita, Khloe, and Olivier and I'm spiraling.
>>3855962lol be less autistic. Dumb broken-genetics anon
>>3855962I always liked having Khloe in the party to heal. Tita's ability to hit multiple enemies with one attack is very helpful as well I think.
Just finished the remake, my first Trails game. Really enjoyed it, the ending is a kick in the teeth in a good way, I hope that the sequel comes out soon.A detail I liked though was that practically everyone was attractive, unless they were meant to be old or actually ugly. Practically every girl has big bouncy boobs. It was so refreshing.
>>3856032Even the flat girls get big bouncy boobs over time
>>3856007Fuck you, you're here too jackass.
I had a lot of trouble with the fishing minigame in the 3rd.
>>3856032>A detail I liked though was that practically everyone was attractive, unless they were meant to be old or actually ugly. Practically every girl has big bouncy boobs. It was so refreshing.The West has fallen.
I can't decide what party member to pick. I quit. I'll just watch a let's play.
>>3856032I'm sorry you experienced the inferior version, but the sequel is out right now as a matter of fact.
>>3856525You are quitting at the last dungeon?
>>3856788Well I told a little lie there, I HAVE played the original for around ten hours before dropping off. Not because it was bad necessarily, but the remake's combat felt better to me personally. Similarly I am of the type that hates skipping out on interesting secrets so the remake's system of actually showing these things on the map was better for me. In general I'm all for the QoL stuff the remake has.It is a shame that the writing wasn't quite as spicy as the original, but I will rather have a translation that is closer to the original japanese just in general. I'm not retarded enough to call the original version's translation "fanfic" like some might say, it's just different.And I know that this post will just make you butthurt or something and I do apologize for that, but I can't with good conscience call the remake "inferior". At the very worst it is a sidegrade to the original, depending on the person.
>>3856811the writing is closer to the original...until you reach scenes that Falcom censored themselves. And in general the games dialogue feels like MTL when you compare it to the original localization. In many scenes.I genuinely believe it's a tragedy that people have to listen to Liberl being pronounced as LIBERAL and not seeing Estelle call Olivier a faggot. I encourage you to play SC, I know a person that did jump from the remake to SC and was pleasantly surprised.SC's remake from the few screencaps I saw already made Estelle wear spats in her second outfit when she canonically wore a skirt, and there are even jokes about her showing off her goods by accident in that game. SC remake will be even less faithful than 1st, you have been warned.also no chest messages for you either.
>>3856817Gosh I love chest messages so muchThe games got so much worse when they were removed
