Rebooblican edition.About to start Disgaea 2 for the 3rd time, hoping I have enough patience to get through the entire postgame this time instead of dropping it right after the story mode. Fuck pirates, fuck felonies, fuck cellphones, fuck dark world stage unlock conditions , etc.
I just finished the main story of Disgaea 2. The side characters were stronger but I felt the main duo didn't have enough development. The game felt much easier than the first game, although I was quite a bit underleveled when playing first. Also, I miss my female brawlers.
>>3847703I wanted to add another thing. Since, I was playing with Japanese audio, I could tell the localization was faithful for the most part, except when it came to Etna. What's the deal with the Beauty Queen stuff?
>>3847674I'm going to start Disgaea 2 for the first time once I 100% Disgaea 1. The only hard achievements remaining are the 10 million damage and hyperdrive ones which I'm not really looking forwards to since it's just time consuming. My majin easily does 2 million damage at this point though so I just need to level him to another 3 million damage then use braveheart.
>>3847708I think they just sort of let her VA do whatever she wants. She really likes her roll.
I finished my item world run for my trap, this was honestly not worth the effort for 1 item. Kill bonus is so fucking slow to get up. I did everything I could, 20 stars, invader path, kill everything even in mystery rooms which just adds more floors to grind. All that shit and still get like 12+ kill bonus every 10 floors + mystery room floors.
are oither NIS games allowed? i want to autistically rant about the phantom brave sequel
>>3848166Sure why not. Haven't heard much about the sequel since it was released.
>>3848170The original game was a comfy self contained story, even the alternate Another Marona arc as well. For some god awful reason they seem to be over-explaining and introducing an entire system about how phantoms work and how they can sometimes just magically do whatever they want now. No need to confine you can just possess someone or something lol. Every """"phantom"""" in this game is no different from a fucking living being. I already thought the story was bad enough just judging from the first chapter, making Ash look like a retard. Theres no real mystery either, the main villian is painfully obvious and i know for sure theyre going to bring back the sulphur somehow. Throw in extra party members because why not disgaea did it hahaha. the writers are surely not the same from the first game right? and then i get to Ch8 where they introduce this "LOST" shit. If you"have no purpose" for lingering as a phantom too long or some bullshit they turn into a monster because...(???) im this close to just dropping it i hate this fanfic tier game so much. at least some of the designs are cute despite the 3d downgrade.
>>3848191Man 3D is the death of all 2D franchise.
Just unlocked the carnage dimension in 5 but I'm not sure what to do from there.
>>3848033honestly, she does it pretty well so I'm not that hung up on it
I want to FUCK Etna
>>3848211I dont hate it entirely but it makes all the games look even more low budget, with the animations as well. Ash for example looks is ridiculous
>>3848451I think they should make the heads smaller atleast. Like enough where its not so weird.Other than that the series doesn't suffer really from being 3d, just that NIS couldn't budget their money wisely.
>>3848451Look at that head shape, those puffy cheeks. He looks like a baby.
>>3848549It's the proportions. They're like 2.5 heads tall. They could have made them like Disgaea's that are like 4 heads tall instead, although I get why they did that. It's because the game is more zoomed out than Disgaea, but still.
what are they going to do with all those unordered slumber cat clocks?
>>3848660wait I'm in the wrong dimension it's just a hand waver hereuh I'm retarded don't mind me
>>3848641It's not just the body, though--The face shape is distinctly baby-ish. I tried to illustrate it somewhat.For example, Blue Archive's chibis have similar body proportions, but their more rounded faces work a lot better for making the characters look chibi without looking like child versions of themselves.
>>3848668Oh yeah thats a great example , it feels a little unfair because i think BA has the best chibis ive seen but thats exactly what i was thinking regarding NIS 3d models dont look as "chibi" anymore. Reusing the base model shape for 90% of the humans really shows
>>3847674Bring back the old OP pic
>>3848679You can't change the OP pic
>>3848679You just have to accept it.
Here is your Disgaea musou, anonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeiijXYpkrMAnd also, new Yomowari trailer for which I am more excited personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kk4YQgskw
>>3848799whoever handled and approved the audio mixing of the trailer should get sacked, but I'm looking forward to more animations like with that felynn near the end
>>3848799ever since the /nisg/ threads on vg ive always wanted a disgaea musuo it seems like the perfect series for it. even if im not sure if its set in the same universe.
also praying its a functional game by release
>>3848799Ehhh, musou Disgaea isn't really a genre I really wanted from the series but I guess its a good excuse to finally have fully playable 3d Disgaea characters that isn't chibi 3D. 2nd game seems interesting.
>>3848859>the audio mixing of the trailerYoutube's shitty new "autodub" was on by default for me, did you disable it?
>>3848968no I think it was trying to autodub, I forgot that existed. Audio mixing no longer liquid dogshit.going to see if I can pin down how to turn it off by default, thanks
>>3848930Small indie company please understand.
>>3848924the game looks like shit and doesn't really interest me but i do hope someone rips that nekomata model and i hope there are succubi as well
>>3848930They're so fucking tall, holy shit.
>>3849022I just noticed but there are some giga tiny ones as well
what are the chances that those nisa niggers release the d7c patch and dlc on switch and ps5 after the switch 2 ver is out?
>>3849004yeah it looks like a bad shovelware game but im still willing to give it a try
>>3848924
>>3848799Nippon Ichi is too incompetent to turn off autodub. Hell, their cheap ass is probably happy they don't need to pay English dubber. Fuck NIS.
>>3848924>>3848930>>3849004>>3849159Is this a Felicia from Darkstalkers rif off? I'm glad someone is doing something with that design, since Crapcom decided to sit on it and do nothing with it.
>>3849425It's just the old cat girl that's been in every Disgaea anon.
>>3849430I like these proportions a lot better, the 3D nekomatas are too tall and lanky and their tits are too big.
>>3849433Not many people are fans of the transition to 3D, personally I think it's not THAT bad but I do wish it'd be closer to the original art style of the 2D games.
>>3849433They look weird because they're too lanky instead of muscular as originally intended.
>>3849477The model's forearms and calves are so skinny compared to that concept art. Their hands and feet are normal human-sized too, seems like they should be a lot larger.It's like nekomata cosplay.
>>3849433Nothing wrong with big cat tits>>3849477>>3849533i cant remember but i feel like nekomatas have not been toned or muscular since disgaea 4. or the 3D psyop finally got to me
>>3849581still toned/muscular in 5 at least
wow shorts. why even add the succubus to this game
>>3849433>>3849477>>3849533>>3849581Succubi used to be thicc tooHarada's artstyle just changed over time and now everyone has lanky proportionsIt's dumb for the kitcats though since they're supposed to be tomboy martial artists and muscular catgirls is a unique character concept compared to most other catgirls which are just extra soft and feminine
>>3849695 (Me)>muscular catgirls is a unique character conceptWell not really unique since as another anon mentioned earlier the design was probably inspired by Felicia from Darkstalkersand I guess the early 2000s was during the domestication process of fictional catgirls so they were still some Amazonian ones and not all moe
>>3847703yup sadly Adel is a nothing protag
>>3847703>PleinairYou didn't beat the game.
>>3849982She owes me sex
>>3849982I didn't use her in 1 so I wanted to use her in Disgaea 2. She's cute.
>succubus buttslam attack
>>3848930I noticed there's groups of the same enemy that's big and small. I wonder if giant magichange will be in this game.>>3849425Even back in 6th gen, Japanese knew we weren't getting more Darkstalkers. They had to throw fans a bone somehow.
How does everyone feel about "dood" and "-ssu" here? I have no strong feelings but I heard "dood" first, and depending on the game I turn voice volume to zero.
>>3850379It's never really bothered me I suppose, neither back when I used the English VAs or now with the Japanese ones
>>3850379I like both and "dood" is iconic in its own way, but overall the Japanese prinnies' voices are less grating so I like them better. Compare:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wFFLKvXyQ4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3hJn00H-z0
>>3850379My opinion is that it's one of those things that are just a bitch to translate so I'm okay with the translators going for "dood", since as far as I'm aware, the "ssu" thing is a shortened "desu" and it's associated with a boorish way of speaking, not downright vulgar but not exactly proper either.I'm cool with it, and I find it make the Prinnies more endearing.
>>3850379I have no nostalgia for the english localization, so it's ssu for me. Also funny end particles are part of Japanese so it's less poignant. Zam? Really?
>>3850379It doesnt bother me but i will never ever play these games with a dub on regardless
What music track do you pick for the item world? For me it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaV5whjSb1U
>>3847703I finally beat Axel mode. It was fun and his band of freaks was endearing, although I think I left a legendary 39 on one of them after starting a new cycle. The post-credits scene made me laugh genuinely.I think all maps were pretty small, which is how I like them, and there were no maps with those dumb geo effect "puzzles" that drag on for too long. It was enjoyable overall. I also liked how the level of the enemies jumped from 70 to +100. I kept myself from over-leveling by reincarnating a bunch, and for the final map, I decided not to ruin the experience and passed the stronger enemies bill before trying out the map. I got my healer one-shotted in the first turn because they were 300-400 levels above me, but I still managed to pull through. Sleep is really op.
>>3847674>Boobjobbed archerWhat a Blasphemy. Flat is Justice.
>>3848451TINY ands and feet, HUGE hips.Those are cartoonish girl proportions applied to men also.
>>3850403Personally I like the English prinny better. The English prinny sounds goofy and wimpy, the perfect voice for a pathetic minion to kick around. While the Japanese version just sounds like a normal guy.
>>3851444Axel's themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJDlD8yY-Us&list=FLbWlbTfKCXgZpVyQht3vNtQ&index=286&pp=gAQB8AUBGod I can't believe this video is still up nor, that its been on my playlist for..... pic related.
>>3851699https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HncbIPegZM&list=FLbWlbTfKCXgZpVyQht3vNtQ&index=267&pp=gAQB8AUBReally liked this version as well
>finally start D5, in part for Metallia>she only has 3 voice lines in English>in Japanese i don't like the higher pitch and it evokes too much the feeling of woman playing young boy for some reason.>she's OPIf only I had a way to replay the The Witch and the Hundred Knight, but I'm without a working PlayStation.
>>3852533She's not just OP either, she's almost mandatory for a lot of post game stuff. Also is that game on steam?
>>3852533swamp pussy
Was Disgaea D2 the first game to depict Laharl's wing tattoos?
>>3853270dunno but it was the first game to depict his womb tattoo
Why is my level 300 exodus reducing my HP by 1/4 like a weight in D4?
D3 on the vita was/is my favorite, It has a bunch of crossovers with the Ps2 era NIS characters and previous disgaeas, and I liked the main cast, I thought they bounced off of each other really well. sucks that the only way to play it atm is vita or PS3 emulation
>>3854025Why haven't they ported it to modern platforms anyway? Is it the pixel graphics or did it flop too hard?
>>3854025How is Vita emulation these days? It's been over a decade since I last played 3, and that was on PS3. I'm curious about Raspberyl mode and the DLC girls.
>>3854030I have no idea>>3854031Its gotten better, D3 can run pretty alright but I'm still wary of it possibly randomly crashing during item world grinding or something. I remember playing rasberyl mode and the dlc girls story, it was neat and I miss the sort of alternate modes like etna mode that older disgaea had, they used to have a couple different endings but now we usually only get 1 ending. Rutile, the cat one is a half-nekomata and complete cinnamon roll, stella the more demon looking one is friends with her and strong arms her into pretending to transfer to evil academy and stealing i think the deed? its been a minute, but essentially she's the dean of a rival school and is similar to how mao was in the beginning of d3, so it was neat getting to see mao absolutely school her and display some of his character growth from the main campaign.
>>3854030Trying to avoid bringing back a black listed VA.
>>3854048why would japanese devs care or even know about that?
>>3854048i don't think they really know or care about english VA drama
>>3854052>>3854059Feels like NISA(America) is the only ones actually pushing for these games to be put on steam. I don't think NIS of Japan really cared to port them to the PC.
>>3848799>>3848924>>3848930What the fuck am I looking at?
>>3854142Disgaea musou/warriors
>>3852760>She's not just OP either, she's almost mandatory for a lot of post game stuff.I can see that, I think. Having discovered i can have a prinny an hero himself when she's close to full revenge and then using her overload on an entire map makes the capture squad feel pointless. >Also is that game on steam?no, unfortunately, and I personally have no hope of it ever getting ported.>>3852889>swamp pussy100+ years young swamp pussy
>>3854190It's bad.
>>3854218She got all the Tera Spells except Heal. So if you want to farm the skills in the chara world...Careful about Greedy Mekhashefa, as if the prisoners are too strong, you won't be able to beat them up and Extract from them.Why yes, I'm talking about Carnage Dimension how could you tell.
I get the feeling I should have opted for UPS or whatever it was nisa offered instead of standard delivery my smoothbrain d7 preorder, that slumbercat probably won't get here until November and icbf to email their customer support to attempt to change it
>>3847674Well just incase anons don't know there is also a Disgaea thread on >>>/vmg/1501381 I'm mentioning and linking each other since Disgaea fans are scattered
Archer is so cute and retarded.
>>3855181>>3855218Flattie flattie, cute flattie croissant!
got an email about ewwdo edition at 1 am but copy/pasting the tracking number in doesn't recognize the number and rest of the email is formatted differently than when they mailed me a plushie recently, which is weird
>>3855250i've seen posts elsewhere about people also having issues with buying stuff through nis store / rosen queen so i guess something is fucked up on their end
why the fuck does Nippon Ichi keep insisting to make 3D games? they could've stuck to the 2D they are good at and make games that actually looks good
>>3856199drawing and animating hundreds of 2d sprites is much more costly and takes a lot longer than rigging a shitty 3d model and reusing animations.BUT they could've just reused the high-res sprites from 4, 5, 1C and D2 and no one would've complained
>>3856201if they wanted to be ambitious then they could've in the 2D way and if they wanted to be lazy they could've recycled (i know I wouldn't complain) it just looks like they wanted their games to look ugly for the sake of looking ugly
>>3856199Knowing Nippon Ichi, they were at the brink of bankruptcy before D5, they probably want to be economic when they can, and making 3D seems easier than 2D.Obviously we all agree that their 3D is utterly shit.
>>3856291I like the 3d enough that I'd be hesitant to call it shit, though I would still prefer 2d
>>3856291literally PS1 graphics
>>3856446get your eyes checked
>>3856446A little better.
>Finish all the preparations to get my first character maxed out in D5>Can't be fucked to do the restI didn't even launch the game since then. Shid.
>>3856624The Chara World is a nightmare.
slumbercat get
For me, it's Magic Knight
>>3856737I always make this class and never use them because I could never figure out how to build them in every game. Hybrid classes always elude me.
>>3856737She and her uga buuga are a treasure.It's too bad she is absolutely powercreeped, and that her gimmick is a sloppy.
>>3856806She's our magic autismo.
>>3856630Yeah that and the shards, and the gear, and the innocent. It's not even that it's difficult, it just turn my brain into mush, it make me feel like one of those carricature of a worker at conveyor belt that just stamps car plate all fucking day.
>>3856630Does maxing out a character get any less tedious in later games? In 5 I already asagi'd up a bunch of people and gave them a gorillion stats with shards, but doing Chara world for even one is taking forever (and I'm not sure what to do next either)
>>3857186Ironically, farming for shards, extracts, and doing the Chara World, make getting Innocents relatively easy, since they'll breed like bunnies in the farm, so you'll be sure to have a lot of characters equiped.>>3857287I have no idea, I haven't finished 5 yet so I'm not touching 6, and 7 does nothing to me.
>>3857287Maxing characters through chara world isn't really necessary and can beat all content without maxed attitudes. Your bigger stats come from >shards + extract potions(the item you get from extracting prisoners) = 20 mill stats>maxing all sub classes then reincarnation and placing that character into the Elite 4 squad and releveling that character back up = another 20mil statsGiving you a grand total of 40mil in all stats. If I remember right, if its not 40mil in all stats then its probably 20mil in all stats.Then your weapon stats you need >a 400 kill bonus + max training bonus(forgot what number it stops at but it'll usually be finished when you reach 400 kill bonus which takes the longest) rank 40 legendary carnage weaponAnd in order to do the above, you need to run through your item's carnage item world at 20 stars difficulty as you get more kill bonus as its crazy slow to get up. See>>3848040D5 really made shit more tedious because I don't remember it being this bad in 1-4 but its been forever since i played those.
D5 felt like it really jumped the shark with the grinding then it seemed like they overcorrected in D6 by removing a bunch of mechanics.
>>3857363NTA but I remember a guide years ago about the best weapons you could get, however, I am dumb, and the guide felt obtuse at the time, would you be okay to explain to me the steps to get the best weapons available in D5?
>>3857451There's 3 rank 40 rank legendary weapons for each weapon type compared to previous games. Some people like to call them rank 40, 41, and 42 but its mostly a gimmick differences. You need to unlock carnage dimension so you can start collecting carnage items if you haven't ready. Pretty much all normal items and gear you've collected becomes useless and want carnage versions of the items like pic related.
>>3857451>>3857524Duping multiple copies of an item is also made much worst too in D5. You have to run through item world for a chance at a specific mystery room that makes a copy of the item you're in, innocents and all. Along with another RNG probability of the NPC failing. You basically have a 1/3 chance of getting your item to dupe per mystery room visits. In D3 and D4, you could have your entire team decked out in 40 rank legendary weapons in less than a week. Took me over a week just to get 1 item to dupe. D5 gets too much praise for all its QoL features because they also took 2 steps back for every good they did.
>>3857524>>3857540ah hell
>>3857552Good luck. Even with cheat engine, this shit was tedious. That or the table I found was useless for the most tedious stuff.
I felt absolutely no guilt abusing save states in Disgaea postgame, ESPECIALLY with bonus rooms. Younger me suffered horribly at the hands of that goddamn Fortune Teller, I quit before I could even get as far as item duping.
>>3857524I personally prefer the Legendary ones, which is it's own canworm especially on Carnage.>>3857540You are truly at the mercy of the RNG. Good luck maxing your Traps.One of my biggest grip is how the Innocents are handled.
Honestly, I prefer games that crash a lot because they are internally unstable like just about every Bethesda game, to D5's more than just occasional Improper use the CPU/GPU and locking up the full OS crashes. using task manager to prevent the processes from using some of the CPU cores lets the OS recover when it is a CPU issue. but doesn't fully eliminate the crashing.
>>3857732I've heard a lot of complain regarding 5 completely locking up one's rig, but that has never happened to me. Not even a crash. I really can't tell if I'm just that lucky or if the complains are overblown.The most I've had to suffer was the game making my rig bitch when launching it, slowing down everything to a crawl.
>>3857540smooth Early, Middle, Late, and even early post-game but dat late post-game
>>3856737For me, Samurai
>>3848191Not to discourage you furtherBut GODDAMN did they fuck up Sulphur in this game. Sulphur was cool as shit, as a barely understood force of nature, that acted for completely alien reasons beyond human comprehension.They made him a generic rpg villain. A whiny one.
>>3849695Actually the succubus and nekomata weren't Harada, I'm pretty sure.I'm pretty sure they were done by the La Pucelle guy, fukkin, Ryoji or whatever.Harada redid their sprites when they went to HD, which is when both got slimmer, and is their design today. Also when the succubus lost her snake tail.
>>3850379I like dood. It has a certain bit of personality and charm to it I can't get over. Even nowadays when the dubs are a lot lower quality, I still prefer dood.
>>3849695I'd say they were more cartoonish.
I liked the gameplay and what I've seen of the story for Disgaea 1, but good lord the grinding and how slow things feel kills me. Should I just skip to 5?
>>38598991) Download Disgaea PS2/PSP rom and associated emulator2) Bind 500% fast-forward hotkey to an unused trigger button3) ???4) Profit
>>3859903I was playing the PC version on my Steam Deck.
>>3859899If you dislike grinding, Disgaea isn't for you, let alone 5.
>>3859899Disgaea arguably 1 is the least grindy of the Disgaea games, while 5 is the definitely most grindy.For the speed part, the later Disgaea games have options to speed up movement and animations and even Disgaea 1 has an option to disable special attack animations all together.For the main story though you shouldn't have to grind that much if that's where you're at, it's when the "tactics" part of "tactics RPG" is still relevant. It's only the post game when the difference in levels that enemies get between stages is in the hundreds or thousands that the grind becomes necessary.
>>3860000Witnessed.Also I wanna have consensual hand holding with Etna dood.
>>3860000feels like D5 is tricking you, every thing goes super speed until you get to the LoC and Baal then it slows to a crawl meanwhile with D1 no LoC or Challenge maps at all once you beat the lv 6000 prinny Baal that's about it
>October 19thIt's Sicily's birthdaysay something nice about her!
>>3861669She is a good tank in 5.
>>3861669she has the best Xeno version
>>3861669She's the least retarded sibling in her game
>Go to room with Zed, Xenolith, Void, and Thunderlord Laharl>ask them who is the best imouto >watch the battle rage>Ash is compelled to fight anyway>Adell says he's fighting for his sister but he just wants to fight>Laharl says he just wants to fight but is fighting for his sister >Yeyasu is glad it's not about little brothers so he doesn't have to fight
>>3861724I miss my chuuni sicily, I will never forgive boltrend...
>inside of you are two Laharls>one keeps you up at night, imagining unspeakable things>the other, has boobs
Axel is a great character, but damn, this is kind of depressing.https://vgmtreasurechest.com/soundtracks/disgaea-2-dark-hero-days-exclusive-songs/rwkjnqpb/01%20Axel%20Blues.mp3
>>3864098I really like his hub themeIt seemed like he got better after 2's main story, it's been a while so I wonder what happened before 4 that made him a hell jannyI don't remember how that ended for him either, hope he's alright though, he deserves it
>>3864109>I don't remember how that ended for him either,If memory serves.He's the acting president of the netherworld. He has almost no practical power, because Valzy and pals are strong enough to bully him, but he's nominally and publicly the face of the Netherworld. Think Mr. Satan in Dragonball. He has all the people's support, a bunch of money(?), and all he has to do is handle the pr of being the most important people. Assuming the Fuka & Desco show is canon, his family's finances are more or less sorted out, iirc.
>>3864090One if taller, more mature.GOD I WANT TO FUCK THAT LAHARL.
>>3864188Every Laharl is pretty fuckable ngl
>>3864188Etna, please.
>>3864188>taller, more mature.maou krichevskoy-sama?
How does Disgaea 7 perform on PC? Steam reviews are "Mostly Positive" overall, but "Mostly Negative" recently, with some comments talking of entire system crashes.
>>3866391Depends. Are you on Windows 11?
>>3856740Usually it best to go all in on magic as her ability is boosts elemental skills, but 5 onward gives her unique elemental sword skills so you can use them too in those games.
>>3866401Yes.I have a Switch 2, should I just get it on that instead?
>>3866460Nta but switch 2 has the complete edition with all the dlc and some bonuses, right now it's switch 2 exclusive in the west (this is really fucking stupid)So if you're looking for somewhere to play the game, that's the better option right nowDisgaea doesn't tend to get any mods or anything so I don't think you'll miss out on much by not being on pc
