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I just finished the campaign for JA3, before that I completed alpha protocol 3 times (SIE> all other waifu agents) and before that i finally completed my first run of VTM:B as tremere.(Going malkavian for the next run). Now all thats left is to try and finish off my first run of underrail.tchort can go fuck himself. I'm on a roll and im looking for rpgs that have guns or properly accommodates gunplay. they seem awfully scarce. any suggestions?
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>>3860089
Wild Arms? I mean it's mostly the same niggas in a row, but it's nice.
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>>3860089
Fallout New Vegas
Outer Worlds
Atomfall
Deus Ex 1, Human Revolution, Mankind Divided
Prey
Bioshock 1 & 2
Wasteland 3
Rogue Trader
Avowed
Shadowrun Dragonfall & Hong Kong
Void Bastards
Remnant 2
System Shock 2
Resonance of Fate
Greedfall
Mass Effect 1-3
Valkyria Chronicles series
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Fallout?
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>>3860089
Pillars of eternity.
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>>3860105
>Outer Worlds
>Avowed

why in the world would you recommend this this? everything else is good but i feel like you added that to the list in order to tell me to go fuck myself.

>wastleland 2
ah shit. almost forgot that i needed to finish wasteland 2. i stop playing because the game forcefully had me and angela death part ways so she could show up in wasteland 3. muchas gracias i guess
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>>3860120
>why in the world would you recommend this this? everything else is good but i feel like you added that to the list in order to tell me to go fuck myself.

If you want to out yourself as a retard that's on you. I bet you haven't played those games and like a sheep just take whatever other idiots that haven't playted the games they shittalk say as gospel. Reagardless, not my problem.
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>>3860106
i'll be honest. FO1,2 & tactics turn me off a lot. FO 3 & 4 only deserve one playthrough and New Vegas i've beaten to death because its the penultimate game in obsidians catalgue before they decided to maintain a constant stream of dogshit. i definitely have to give the main Fallout Duology another go. that and arcanum.
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>>3860126
fuck it. i'll play FO3 one more time.
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>>3860122
i have played them both actually. one has an asexual lesbian (idk how the fuck that's supposed to work) and the other runs like horrendously. but hey. not your problem. thanks for the wonderful input.
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>>3860122
>>3860089
You're a faggot with humongously shit tastes and 4chan isn't your blog
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>>3860089
>swing a sword
>level up
>stronger now so you hit harder

>cast a spell
>level up
>you have more mana now so you spell harder

>shoot a gun
>level up
>your... bullets get bigger?
The thing about guns is they make a lvl1 peasant equal to a lvl20 knight. It's hard to fit that with RPGs based on stats.
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>>3860203
>this dude can't even curve bullets while doing a gun kata
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>>3860203
the more you shoot the more you learn gun-fu
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>>3860203
you unlock some new ammo for more damage
>muh TYTANHIUM bullets
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>>3860203
In arcanum steamworks and magicka obscura, your ability to use technology was the same as your ability to use magic; ordinary people can't just use big guns, they have to be technically skilled first or else the guns would jam constantly or not fire as powerfully
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>>3860089
Black Souls 2 has guns, if you're fine with jarpigs.
SMT: Strange Journey if you want a blobber.
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>>3860105
>not include classic Fallout games
anon... I ...
adding to your list
>Pillars of eternity 1 and 2
>Expeditions: Conquistador
Guns as an option for a ranged weapon
>Arcanum
my first ever playthrough was a dwarven gunslinger engineer
some people shit on Arcanum specifically because of experience this kind of build provides
but I found it immensely fun and rewarding
>>3860120
haven't played OW but Avowed specifically is a pretty good game as an action/RPG
and guns are pretty fun in it as well, maybe not as fun if you rely only on guns though [didn't try that build]
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>>3860202
anon you might want to take a break from the internet and touch crunch some autumn leafs or something
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>>3860203
Eh, I don't really care for the realism aspect. I never complained about FF characters like Barret, Vincent, or Laguna getting stronger when they use guns. I still thought they were badass and liked the gun noises.
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>>3860089
>Fallout New Vegas
(the best)
>STALKER
>Wasteland 2
(3 is ok)
>Shadowrun Hong Kong
(pushing it, its fantasy)
>INTRAVENIOUS
(not even an RPG, but it has nice progression and great gunplay. Its worth playing if you like guns)
>Cyberpunk 2077
(the worst out of everything ive listed, at least in terms of gameplay. IIRC it has leveled weapons, the worst thing a rpg can have)
>>3860105
this is a wall of slop
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OH YH
almost forgot this little gem
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>>3860203
accuracy, crit rate, special skills
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>>3860089
7.62 Hard Life
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>>3862326
>(pushing it, its fantasy)
so's fallout and stalker idiot
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>>3860203
ideally, the way to handle guns is to make them more centralized around the weapon itself, rather than the wielder, like in the case of warriors and mages. anything else feels largely inorganic.
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>>3860203
>get better at aiming
>you reload faster
>crit more often
>unlock akimbo-mode, fast draw, hip shooting, other movie style bullshit
Wow that was hard
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>>3860122
>games and like a sheep just take whatever other idiots
Normal people pirated this trash and deleted it after vomiting, thanks.
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>>3860203
you can do it like:

hold properly
faster reload
better aim
doesnt break or break slower or fail more rare
you learn how to shoot far
you lern more and better ammo
etc etc etc
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>>3860126
>its the penultimate game in obsidians catalgue before they decided to maintain a constant stream of dogshit
Dungeon Siege 3 isn't that bad
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>>3860203
Well I mean that's why in Fallout, your gear matters more than your stats do. Yeah stats help but really what has shown you've gotten stronger is you're now packing bigger, stronger guns and armor.

>>3860105
If you like Fallout 1/2 at all then I would suggest Atom RPG and its sequel Trudograd
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>>3863206
it is
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>>3863211
It's not bad, it's just not dungeon siege, it forgets that the point of DS is "diablo but with a whole posse of dudes"
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>>3860094
Selling wild arms as a JRPG with guns is pretty idiotic. In the original, only the player character has guns, and only as a special. His reglar weapon is a sword.

Honestly, Wild Arms is such a missed opportunity. It advertised itself as a "western fantasy sci fi" but it's really only like 5% western. Most of it looks and feels like a bog-standard JRPG.
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>>3860203
just pull the trigger harder obvs
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>>3862326
>it has leveled weapons, the worst thing a rpg can have
Looter shooters
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>>3860089
If you don't mind slavjank then try
>Marauder
And
>Planet Alcatraz
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>>3860089
>Metal Saga
>Metal Max Returns
>Metal Max 2 Reloaded
>Metal Max 3
Btw, they got tanks too, rideable and fast travel friendly.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t523XO1Qo

Soon™
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>>3863171
Or, just do what they do for melee stuff in RPGs and make it literally magic. DnD forever has had it that at higher levels you're getting magic weapons and armor and whatever.
It also doesn't make sense that someone did enough bicep curls that they can go from killing a rat to slicing a building sized machine's steel armor.



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