2 > 1
if we're talking about the RPGs

>>3860985
what makes new vegas and 3 not rpgs?

>>3860976
New Vegas > 1 > 3 > 2 > 4

>>3861000
the first person shooter action combat

I played 3 and NV and I would probably say I liked 3 the most.

>>3860976
New Vegas, then 3, and then 4. I couldn't get into the older titles, but 2 (from the playthroughs I've watched) probably had the best story.

>>3861083
>I played 3 and NV and I would probably say I liked 3 the most.
I once saw a guy wearing a vault boy t-shirt and I told him I liked the first two games and he said "Yeah, I loved 3 and New Vegas too"

>>3860976
The only proper ranking, but desu, I would put 76 before 3. I fucking hated the story in Fallout 3. 76 didn't have any story, or shitty bethesda dialogue, and subsequently was my favorite bethesda fallout.

>>3861083
I liked pickpocketing people in Fallout 3 and placing armor in their inventory and they'd start wearing it. you could get entire regions to be wearing the same stuff. was kinda fun. I only farted around in these games and barely got all that far.

>>3860976
FO3 = FO3NV > FO1 > FO2

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Fallout is a sandbox RPG, so I expect the gameplay to involve world changing choices in most quests. For that reason, Fallout 1, 3, and New Vegas are king. 2 and 4 misunderstood Fallout. They treat Fallout as a setting for an epically gay adventure.

1 > NV > 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bethesda games in general

I rarely manage to get myself to play for longer than 2 hours whenever I decide to give a Bethesda game a go.

Including the mods I've played
2>Sonora>1=NV>>>Resurrection>>>>>3
Haven't played 4 or tactics. Its been ages since I've played 1 so I wasn't really sure where I should put it.
Yes Sonora is really that good

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1>2>NV>Tactics>3>4.
I know that I’m in the minority but I don’t think Fallout 3 is the pile of shit most people say it is. It’s undeniably inferior to the classic trilogy and New Vegas but it has a comfy aspect to it. F3 soundtrack > NV's.
>>3860985
I wish I could enjoy F2 as much as I enjoy F1. F2 feels "strange" if compared with F1.

>>3861180
Shill me on Sonora

>>3861244
1 feels a lot more grounded, brutal and serious which fits the post-apocalypse setting a lot better than the wackiness of 2

>>3860976
Sonora>1>Nevada>2>the rest (haven't played them)
>>3861268
It's the most polished and cohesive classic Fallout game. Great soundtrack, great worldbuilding, decent plot, plus you get to drive a motorbike

>>3861268
A lot of the skills have been rebalanced and have a tons of opportunities for checks. The desert rangers (before the NCR treaty) are also a major faction you can join
>>3861302
>motorbike
it's a chopper, baby

>>3860976
og player when I was a 14 yr old, long chode haver objective opinion
Tv show > 2 > 1 > nv > fan expansions and mods > tactics > 4 > 3 >> brotherhood > 76

Did I miss anything? Reminder if you disagree with me you enjoyed being Francis's gimp

>>3861537
>long chode
Stopped reading here

>>3861268
Its the size of fallout 2 (almost) but with the atmosphere of 1.
Also like the other guy said the music is fucking amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoSAVBMcHlg&list=PLlzO258Bm-emEOtmuWp4cEWU3Q49g8pSd&index=13

Fallout 4 they should have properly expanded on rather than just allow repeative quests and dumbass building modes be the main thing in it. It's an RPG, not the god damn Sims or a fucking startegy game.

>>3860976
1 but I played it new in 1997. I wouldn't recommend it to kids, all the stuff that was fascinating about it is gone now and all the things it seemed to be pointing towards never actually panned out.

2 = FNV, just big stew pots of Fallout 1 fanfic by people that liked it. I played Fallout 2 when it was new and didn't think much of it but didn't really care because I was expecting lots of original games with new settings and ideas and not people rerunning the same IP for eternity.

4 was so damn needlessly stupid. There's just obviously nobody with the final say at Bethesda that cares to create depth or consistency, so instead you get a bunch of halfassed intern tier ideas thrown together and left hanging.

Never played 3.

>>3860976
2 is my personal favorite. Bad references and all. but 1 is probably the most objectively good one, even if it feels like it lacks in content on replays. I can see why most just say New Vegas as I think it has the best qualities of 2 and 1, it just sadly is stuck on the Bugthesda engine. Sonora from what I hear would be the best one but I haven't finished it yet. Nor have I touched 4. Ultimately I think I like them all equally (at least the west coast ones), it just depends on what mood I'm in.
>Atmosphere
1 > NV > 2 > 3
>Fucking around
2 > NV > 3 > 1
>Roleplaying
NV > 2 > 1 > 3
Would be nice for one of these Fallout clone games to actually play like Fallout. Wasteland 2 and Underrail don't really hit the same. So far Arcanum has scratched the closest itch for me. Is Atom any good?

>>3861788
ATOM is good if you like 2. Poorly written but the gameplay is fun and there's plenty of skill checks, problem solving and branching quests to make it fun for multiple playthrougs. In regards to actually playing like fallout, it's basically 1:1 in many mechanics for better or worse.

>>3861793
Alright I think I'll give it a shot. What is Trudograd? is it an expansion pack to the base game or is it a sequel? Not sure if I should wait to touch it or just jump into that one first.

>>3861797
Standalone expansion. You transfer your save over after beating ATOM

>>3860985
fpbp

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>>3861788
>ranking 3 so low
It's the best in all categories

>>3860976
My biased take, coming from someone who can't stand 90s CRPGs is
>New Vegas >3 > 2 > 1
But if I take out my bias against shit controls and %-to-hit combat, then it would be
>2 > New Vegas > 3 > 1

1 has great atmosphere, is wonderful conceptually, but that game is really short, poorly balanced, with very basic quests (way more basic than 3) and just isn't particularly good as a video game.
>>3861000
Some people get very anal about action RPGs not counting

>>3862021
I enjoyed fo1 by beelining to the finish with stealth, bypassing all the shitty gameplay

Fo2 was too crap to complete

Underrail > 2 > New Vegas > 1

>>3861728
None of what you said about 1 detracts from its mechanics/true sandboxy freedom/dialogue choices/story/soundtrack being still well executed even compared to newer games that try the same thing and fail. And if a work needs a sequel to be considered good then I question its quality to begin with.
If anything, as a youngshit that played it in 2017 for the first time, I can agree with not recommending it for the barrier of entry due to confusing and clunky UI, and it not holding your hand and stopping you from making a terrible unfun build to start with etc. But if those aspects got mitigated and reworked then I could see it being a success as an indie game released today in 2025 without changing it much further.

>>3862074
>mechanics/true sandboxy freedom/dialogue choices/story/soundtrack
Nta
I doubt that's anything exciting nowadays, not the amount fo1 possesses at least.

It would work as a boomer nostalgia bait, much like the few indie games that have come already.

Though fo1 still completely mogs indie games in graphics and style, originality. That's why the IP had value.

>>3862074
>a popular game from the 90s could see indie-level success today, if changed
Grim.

>>3862070
I like Underrail but it's so fundementally a different game they're just not related.

>>3862074
I just can't imagine anyone young having something like the experience I did with Fallout 1 where I was as shocked by how good I thought it was as something with a much bigger historical reputation now, like Doom or whatever Nintendo games that get jerked off. A big part of that was me thinking it was opening a door to a whole new kind of "tabletop RPG simulator" game. And it pretty much didn't happen and the video game medium will never do that, so how can I expect someone that knows how it turned out to care anymore?

>>3861728
anon just sounds like he doesn't like video games. lol

Has any RPG had a better drug addiction mechanic than the way jet works in Fallout 2? I played through that whole game constantly getting fucked over by jet addiction until I finally got the cure in San Francisco. It was one of the most unique ecperiences I've had with any game.

>>3862376
>drug addiction mechanic
A stat debuff?

>>3862376
Fallout 1 addiction was better because it interacts more robustly with the timers - you can't afford to just wait around for a week for an addiction to time out. In Fallout 2 you "should" always become a Jet addict because it's dirt cheap and common and it gives you a massive power boost as a combat drug and then you can always wait around for 24 hours to lose the comedown penalty afterwards since time is as meaningless as most CRPGs.

But as a storytelling thing Jet addiction in 2 is cool.

>>3862440
So you never role played. Okay, well maybe a different game would be better for you...?

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>>3860976
for me it's:
>Fallout 1 / Et Tu > Sonora + Dayglow / Nevada > FNV > Resurrection > FO2 RPU/UPU > Tactics >>>>>>>>>>> FO3/4/76/Shelter/BoS
Can't wait for Mutants Rising, should be out by the end of the year

>>3862867
Resurrection over 2 is crazy to me. I mean I had fun with it but to me its the weakest classic fallout by far.

>>3862882
nta but it's one only time the amnesia trope has been done well and making ghouls a threat like mutants were is badass. i enjoy the main quest and the long ass holotapes

>>3862902
The story was interesting enough but I wasn't a fan of most of the areas. Albuquerque was cool I guess.

How’s that attempt to remake F3 Van Buren in either F2 or that custom 3D engine going?

>>3861431
>The desert rangers (before the NCR treaty) are also a major faction you can join
Lamest faction ever. They are, uh, desert rangers, and they do, uh, desert ranger stuff, and they are called, uh, rangers.
Shame that you can't join those technofetishists or mexicans. One of the setting's flaws is that save for a couple of really inconsequential dialogs and settlements late in the game, its mexican fleur is almost nonexistent.

>>3863065
I like their dynamic with the tribals, including yours
>One of the setting's flaws is that save for a couple of really inconsequential dialogs and settlements late in the game, its mexican fleur is almost nonexistent.
I intentionally didn't take that spanish speaking trait hoping for some interesting interactions. I think all of the spanish NPCs are in one or two of those southeast settlements, and I don't think the language barrier even mattered that much.

>>3861797
wait to touch it, trudograd is awesome esp during winter, you get that icewind dale feel
also 2 with ecco mod slaps, i'm doing an unarmed bulid, and having so much fun with it

New Vegas is nothing without Fallout 3.

The whole nuking megaton to tenpenny tower to the ghouls moving in is what made New Vegas so cheap and pointless to me.

The DLC was mostly great in Fallout 3 whereas only 2 out of 5 were even decent in NV

The fact that "lore brushed off in 3" critique by NV fanboys was nowhere to be heard of when they hypocritically neglected to hypcroticially concede aspects such as the Brotherhood of Steel plotline was paltry compared to ALL the previous titles.

Yes NV was better in certain aspects of RPG such as factions and general authenticity to Fallout lore, but 3 blew it out of the water in every other department.

Lone Wanderer > boring ass Courier all day long


Tl:dr

Honestly some people just hate 3 nowadays especially because of Bethesda gradual decline over the years despite the it being their last GOAT game.

>>3863044
>remake F3 Van Buren
Wouldn't this just be "make"?

>>3863522
Lol zoomers are so dumb...

>>3863522
Uhhh.... I mean, Fallout 3 came out before Skyrim, didn't it? You don't have to love Skyrim, but any objective measure Skyrim is definitely considered one of the greatest video games ever made. In terms of, like, revenue it's generated, for example. The sheer astronomical amount of work that has gone into modding it, for another example. The fact that it's literally been described as "a mandatory experience to understand an entire generation of media", for another example.

I have a lot of complaints and criticisms of Skyrim. I would not personally name it as my favorite game. But to claim that Fallout 3 is old Bethesda's best....? Even I have to clutch my pearls in disgusted shock. Are you not ashamed? Have you no ability to detect what a profound social faux pas you've just committed?

>>3861788
I dunno, I definitely feel like Underrail plays very similarly to classic isometric Fallouts. Underrail is also one of the best RPGs ever made, so even if it's not the same, that's perfectly fine. Wasteland 2 and 3 are very good but they are party-based, I guess, so they're not quite the "dangerous solo adventurer" mode. But Wasteland 3 in particular is *extremely* good.

>>3863618
>Wasteland 3 is good
Stopped reading here

>>3860976
Fallout 1 >= Fallout 2 > Fallout NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fallout 3 (you still kinda play a role) > Fallout 4 (you are playing someone else's character with no real control over their backstory)

I'd argue 4 barely qualifies as an RPG.

Fallout 1 plays like a top-down shooter, while Fallout 2 is an actual role-playing game. Fallout 1 is also ridiculously easy, feeling like a tutorial for Fallout 2 rather than a game of its own. I once killed supermutants in Necropolis with hunting rifle while wearing Mad Max leather jacket.

>>3860976
if fallout 3 was set a couple decades after the war it would have been perfect.

>>3863522
You type like a 50iq Neanderthal

>>3863707
I just replayed Fallout 1 and yeah I can see what you mean. Something I felt recently is that the actual quest design is kind of lacking. In Fallout 2 ,if you had something like the thieves guild, you would have gotten 3 or so quests out of it like when working for a Reno family. Instead you get a very short quest to just loot a necklace and that's it, nothing further. It mainly exists to hear Loxley talk. I can appreciate that F1 doesn't have 20 wanamingos in your face though. Fallout 1s default should have been hard and Fallout 2s default should have been easy.

Sidenote lore question, How the fuck did Jacoren learn about the Master? I get that the VD typed up a report on seeing muties but where was he getting info about the Children of the Cathedral? Maybe its supposed to be from the Water Merchants but I didn't get their services this game.

>>3863930
Who's Jacoren?

>>3863931
V13 Overseer, it's an officially unofficial name since otherwise he's just "The Overseer" One of the F1 concept art pieces had the name.

>>3863707
Did you only play one build or something? And for 2 to be a better role-playing game than 1, it needs to do something about its shitty main quest first.
>feeling like a tutorial for Fallout 2 rather than a game of its own
Nah.
>I once killed supermutants in Necropolis with hunting rifle while wearing Mad Max leather jacket
And what is that supposed to prove?
>>3863930
>How the fuck did Jacoren learn about the Master?
He didn't? Pretty sure he only figured out that there's someone out there making mutants, because their numbers wouldn't make sense otherwise. And there were a few CotC members in Necropolis, they try to escape if you kill the mutants.

>>3863934
>{220}{Over_64}{What about the mutant leader? What about this so-called Master?}
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/OVER.MSG
I just found it odd, maybe the V13 Overseer knew more about the outside world then he let on. As far as I know, only the CotC and the FotA were really aware of there being a Master, and of course Lou and the Mariposa mutants. After blowing up Mariposa, the BoS seemingly stopped giving a shit about looking into the mutants. And Junktown and Shady Sands would have been too smallfry to concern themselves with the CotC or V13.

>>3863935
Probably an oversight from the developers

>>3863938
Yeah probably. I get the feeling that they needed to have the game end and The Overseer asking about destroying The Master is to make the player know what their final objective is. I was just curious if there was any lore explaination for it. Either it being mundane with the Water Merchants or more tinfoil hat with the Vault Experiments.

>>3863933
>officially unofficial name
I played FO when it came out, and was on the internet at that time, and I have never heard this name once until your post

>>3863935
That's only after you destroy the Military Base, no? I think it's reasonable that he'd know of him after that.

3>1>2
Haven't played anything else

1 would be higher with more polish and if it weren't so easy for everyone to just die with little warning even though you technically win if you take too long
The car is fun and there's a lot of messing around to do including trolling people with weird native ranting, but I was disappointed you couldn't marry a girl, sell her into slavery, and then repeat with her brother (if you know, you know), plus those stupid aliens that are awful to fight and kind of just exist
Playing 1 after 3 made it obvious just how much of 3's design is a reaction to people disliking changes made in 2. It made me like 3 less, but not enough less to overcome being softlocked by your friends and how easy it is to catastrophically fail if you don't know where things are

>>3860976
2 >nv >1 >3

1 is a bit short for me but I respect it as the beginning of the series and the atmosphere.

>>3864261
>how easy it is to catastrophically fail if you don't know where things are
Yup, it used to be possible to lose games

>>3860976
I've barely played 1, never touched 2 (that will be changing soon though)
3 > 4 > NV.

I thought the plot and world design of 3 was way better. NV's story was well written, but it feels very understated before Old World Blues. Everyone is some form of morally grey, and quests rarely have good or evil components to them. It's all just who you want to side with.
Say what you will about Bethesda, but they really understand the importance of iconography. Compare the ideas of the Vault Dwellers, the Brotherhood of Steel, the Enclave, and the Super Mutants, to what New Vegas has to play around with. The NCR, The Legion, the Khans, the Boomers, the Families of the Strip. The only genuinely cool concept there is the family that eats people and Mr. House. everyone else is just the most generic raiders with a slight themed variation.
I don't want it to seem like I hate fallout NV or anything. It's still a great game, I just know I'm going to get under peoples' skins by saying 3 and 4 are better games.
4's merits are mostly gameplay wise. I love skill points, but there's a certain tangibility that comes with selecting perks based on your SPECIAL stats and forming a wholly unique playstyle around that. The factions are pretty good here, and I actually really enjoyed the building mechanics. (although, if you don't, there isn't a single point where you're required to use it. just don't join the minutemen)

>>3861728
>Never played 3
https://youtu.be/9ZUyB5dRwg0?si=5BfoKj8f8gI4SLFQ

2 was always my favorite but 1 is much better in many ways... Obviously the narrative and atmosphere, but also the tightness of the game design, purpose to all overworld locations, more grounded in its universe and it's rules (less pop culture references), more "serious" but still with some humor; better balance than the total wackiness of fallout 2

love both dearly though, and even have appreciation for fallout 3 since I waited a decade for it... though new Vegas is the better game, fo3 is the ocarina of time to New vegas' Majora's mask... You need one to have the other

Fo4 is irredeemable garbage; fo3 is terribly written but it has its moments. NV has the best side quests.

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>>3860976
1 > F:NV > 2 >>> Fallout Tactics >>> literal dogshit >>> bethesda's swine feed

It's 2. Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a tranny or Cliff Clavin.

>>3864832
I think Fallout 1 gets more praise these days because people no longer really play the classic Fallouts like they do regular video games. It's more appreciated as an art piece. So the story, visuals, world-building, atmosphere, those are prioritized over actual gameplay or content.

But anyone who was there at the time preferred Fallout 2, since that game has more content and better gameplay.
However, since it's less 'artistically pure' it now gets a bad reputation.

>>3865001
that's why Fallout Et Tu is the superior way to play 1

>>3860976
>how do you rank the fallout rpgs?
3 > 1 > nv > 4 > 2

>>3865001
I blame new vegas storyfags and their similarly bad game with good world building and writing
>>3865005
doesn't fix gameplay or content, just engine

>>3865001
>I think Fallout 1 gets more praise these days because people no longer really play the classic Fallouts like they do regular video games.
I think so too. Fallout 1 gets to be that novel experience.

Like imagine playing FO3 for 100 hours until boredom strikes, then finishing FO1 in 10 hours.
I imagine FO3 would be amazing in similar conditions. If playtime was limited to 10 hours, and I hadn't played similar games before.

>>3865001
In the '90s people still thought sequels were inherently kinda lame, especially same-engine reused asset sequels like Terror from the Deep and FO2 that didn't get any benefit from new technology. I played FO2 on launch and it felt disposable.

>>3861094
That Guy sounds like a chad

>>3866374
Few words from a chad and that incel is still seething today. A powerful message.

3 > 1 > 2 > NV > 3

Three has shit writing and quests and isn't a great roleplaying game or a faithful Fallout adaptation, but it is an exceptional exploration game. I've spent hundreds of hours using different builds and just walking around the wasteland, looting subways and vaults, shooting stuff. I really love the grim atmosphere and unironically the green tint.

1 is a solid CRPG if a little short. 2 is a little too wacky for me. NV honestly just kind of sucks and I never understood the hype. I used to think it was just 4chan contrarianism choosing it over 3, but it seems like even normies prefer NV these days. Sure it's a better roleplaying game than 3 but it's still a lot worse than 1 and 2 and the world is nowhere near as fun to explore as 3s. 4 bored me to death.

>>3866394
>3 > 1 > 2 > NV > 3

I know it's just a typo but this seems like a funny bait/shitpost ranking

>>3866395
It was me subconsciously acknowledging that 3 is my favorite but also objectively the worst roleplaying game.

I am a fallout autistic
Its 1 = new vegas > 2 > 3 > 4 > shelter > 76 = tactics
Not going to pretend i played brotherhood of steel
2 is s great game obviously but i think a lot of people who didn’t finish it overrate it.
San fran and oil rig objectively makes it worse than 1 and 2. If they had another year to make fallout 2, these sections would be different i can assure youZ

Why are the quests in 1 & 2 so damn boring

Prove me wrong with examples of memorable quests

>>3867220
*Worse than 1 and nv
2 also had a lot less content for the cool parts of the game like new reno, mob quest chains arw like 40 minutes long max. Its also just a little too long for its own good
Fallout 1 is this special game that every single part of it became iconic to the point its imagery is still used to this day.
2 is just more of that but extended 3 times longer. The last 15 hours of a fallout 2 playthough is kinda just wanting it to end.
New vegas is good, still the only first person that feels like a proper rpg and not an action game pretending its one.
Its also really the only other fallout game that actually added a lot to the setting. Like when you think of fallout stuff it pretty much comes down to stuff from the first game, enclave(which are just evil power armor guys) , and everything in new vegas even if like a 3rd of that is recycled van buren ideas .

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This thread is just contrition nonsense. 3 is still mediocre
Theirs barely any perks with most just giving stat increases, no traits, skills barely matter, 50 points into energy weapons to get like 3 more damage won’t matter
Speech checks are fucked, and don’t have fun alt dialogue if you failed
The main quest is just a railroad of 4 dungeons that play out the same everytime
Only lime 8 side quests with any meat to them
No multiple ammo types, iron sights, and very few unique weapons and they don’t have unique skins to hunt down so its even a subpar shooter.
The main story is just a worse version of fallout 2. The enclave wants to poison the water with fev to kill mutants…..again?
Its pretty sad because its a missed opportunity to not have the enclave want to make america 2.0 in the capital, like imagine if they were instead annexing by force with rigged elections and forcing wastelanders to wave American flags
>the imagery
What imagery? The shit they stole from the first two games but worse? Brotherhood are now generic good guys, enclave have way uglier armor, super mutants are just orcs that eat le humans.
“Why don’t people talk about 3 anymore “ because its not special and the only noteworthy aspect of it was that they manage to make oblivion with guns and a ground base for new Vegas.
If you want to be a contrition and shit on new vegas go ahead but shut the fuck up when you praise this garbage in the next sentence

>>3867233
>This thread is just contrition nonsense. 3 is still mediocre
>Theirs barely any perks with most just giving stat increases, no traits, skills barely matter, 50 points into energy weapons to get like 3 more damage won’t matter
>Speech checks are fucked, and don’t have fun alt dialogue if you failed
>The main quest is just a railroad of 4 dungeons that play out the same everytime
>Only lime 8 side quests with any meat to them
>No multiple ammo types, iron sights, and very few unique weapons and they don’t have unique skins to hunt down so its even a subpar shooter.
>The main story is just a worse version of fallout 2. The enclave wants to poison the water with fev to kill mutants…..again?
>Its pretty sad because its a missed opportunity to not have the enclave want to make america 2.0 in the capital, like imagine if they were instead annexing by force with rigged elections and forcing wastelanders to wave American flags
>>the imagery
>What imagery? The shit they stole from the first two games but worse? Brotherhood are now generic good guys, enclave have way uglier armor, super mutants are just orcs that eat le humans.
>“Why don’t people talk about 3 anymore “ because its not special and the only noteworthy aspect of it was that they manage to make oblivion with guns and a ground base for new Vegas.
>If you want to be a contrition and shit on new vegas go ahead but shut the fuck up when you praise this garbage in the next sentence
Things people say before getting a gender reassignment surgery on their wiener

>>3867236
Very enlightening, do you niggers have nothing better to do but pretend bad games are actually good on the internet

>>3867233
>This thread is just contrition nonsense
Stopped reading here

>>3867222
joining the khans was pretty memorable. you have to kill 2 defenceless and battered slave women while the Khans watch

>>3867233
The perk thing is what really gets me
Builds do not exist in fallout 3
You either take the perks that make vats better or you don’t
You can not put a single point in melee weapons and you are only like 10% worse with melee weapons compared to someone at max.
Enemies don’t even have stats, like new vegas is not a hard game but least things can kill you lol.
In 3 death claws at level 3 get rolled over if you have the ammo and like a rock to jump on

Pointless debate when Wasteland 3 smokes all of them.

>>3867222
Decker's quests are also memorable especially since it's possible to be forced to kill a child in the second one, getting the child killer perk

>>3867222
I'm guessing you don't mean the main quest stuff so I'll exclude Mariposa and Navarro.
F1:
>Stealing the necklace for the thieves guild.
>Putting a cap in Gizmo/Killian
>Rad-X-ing your way to The Glow for the BoS
>Killing Deathclaws for the Gun Runners
F2:
>Getting the Hydroelectric Magnetosphere installed for Gecko (and Vault City regardless what First Shittizen thinks).
>Being a sherrif for Redding and Vault City
>Working for any of the mob bosses of New Reno, but especially the Wrights because of Sierra Army Depot
>Helping solve Modocs drought
>Killing slavers for NCR
>Or being a slaver and selling Sulik (you bastard)
>Being a boxer or pornstar in New Reno
>Arm wrestling Francis in Broken Hills
>Getting the Highwayman up and running.

Is everyone just going to ignore how Blades live right next to deathclaws?

>>3867384
that was such a shocker for me to go from the slums that the blades live in to the fucking deathclaws right next door. I guess LA is big and maybe the deathclaws are miles away but still

>>3868203
I do think the idea behind each location is that it's suppose to be bigger than what the player just sees. Shady Sands is suppose to have a population of at least 1000 or so people iirc. And that's Shady Sands. But then it makes thinking about any fetch quests weird. Still, easier to buy that Fallout 1/2 are just a slice of a location, unlike NV with New Vegas itself being supposedly bigger than it is given that everything is in first person.

>>3860976
1 > tactics > nv > 2 > 3

I wish they gave fallout 1 modern top-down remake in 3d made by competent dev like inxile or larian. But probably 3, nv and morrowind are higher on their priority list after oblivion remake success.

>>3868796
>tactics > nv
Holy based.

>>3867222
like literally all of them.
figuring out how to get through the quests in klamath/the den/modoc in fallout 2 was some of the best gaming of my life. modern take on fallout 2 is that the ghost in the den is out of place, but there's no way to know that checking that side room at the exact right time of day will find you a ghost, and there's the thinnest of threads leading you to the jet pusher to get her locket back, then you literally just have to up and conjure the idea of burying the bones in the correct grave, finding yourself a shovel and everything.
It's intensely rewarding to figure out that stuff.

Fallout 3 is overhated

>>3860976
I love them all for different reasons. Spend the most time on 4 and Vegas as these games have the most content. I can only replay 1 and 2 so many times.

>>3860976
Fallout 3>Fallout 1>Fallout New Vegas>Fallout 76>Fallout 2>Fallout 4
>tactics
never played it, most likely never will

>>3869060
>>3869183
3 is underhated >>3867233
Days later and im still just correct, only response is “uhhh tranny?”
The only people who unironically like 3 are people who haven’t played it in 10 years and forgot how medicore it really is.
Its like new vegas without any special sauce, just reusing a worse version of a plot from fallout 2

>>3869235
Honestly 3 is underhated because a lot of its flaws you can apply to 2, NV, hell even 1.
>Overuse of humour that hurts the atmosphere, some questionable lore addons
Sounds like Fallout 2
>Bad gunplay and boring walking sim gameplay.
New Vegas
>unbalanced stats leading to same-y builds, and same-y looking environment
Fallout 1
F3 might be worst than all 3 west coast titles but if you can stomach all 3 west coast titles then 3 isn't nearly that bad. At least it tries to be in the spirit of Fallout. F4 feels like a completely different franchise. Are the consequences of FEV even explored in that game?

>>3869349
>Overuse of humour that hurts the atmosphere, some questionable lore addons
Sounds like Fallout 2
I never said that, i think most of the people who complain about fallout 2 humor never even played the game since they use screen shots of a few non canon random encounters and not the part where you meet tim hanks and get brainwashed into believing Scientology
Like 2 has retarded humor but fags never actually target the really stupid shit i can only assume they never got that far.
> >Bad gunplay and boring walking sim gameplay.
New Vegas
I never said 3 was a walking sim
I said it not having iron sights or a bunch of cool unique weapons with unique weapons skins to hunt down made it a subpar shooter
I think the gunplay in nee vegas is fine
>unbalanced stats leading to same-y builds, and same-y looking environment
The issue witb 3 is that builds don’t exist you dense retard. Go ahead and look though the perk list, you have a few vat perk, bsd perks thst do almost nothinf, and a shit ton of boring skill up perks. theirs literally nothing and skills don’t matter. The damage increase is small and the non combat skills are easy to work around.
Seethe Bethesda drone, 3 was bad and all of you fags praising it have not played it in a decade. Go cry about new vegas being more relevant like todd

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Like i just replayed fallout 3 after being in a fallout mood and it is genuinely one of the worse “rpgs” i ever sat though. The game gets worse the more time passes, it was my introduction to fallout like most people and its just not good lol. We just didn’t have anything else in 07
I don’t even know why they bother to raise the level cap i was bored at level 12
You’re shitty whataboutism when the “issues” you have are pretty much made up or minor for the west coast games change nothing
F3 still had a shitty main quest thats like 3 dungeons that play out the same everytime
Tranquility lane the peak of the quest line is a 1 and done for life
Few side quests
No unique skins
Fucked speech checks
No roleplaying
Very few perks
No traits
Skills barely matter difference between 100 and 20 skill is like 3 more damage.
A really just terrible world like if you talk to a fallout 3 retard and never played the game you would think the game map was just megaton downtown and tenpenny because the rest of the map is boring.
Every aspect brought in from the classic games is done worse.
The dlcs are actually just miserable only the pitt and pointlookout are playable without taking extended breaks from being bored.
If you say you enjoy 3 i either assume you haven’t played it since you were 14 like most people or an actual moron and you should be been banned from all online discussions.

>>3860976
1 > 4 > 3 > 2 = NV

>>3869381
bait used to be believable

>>3869377
Also I can’t wait for the eventual fallout 3 remaster like oblivion prob coming for the 30th anniversary when all the basedmen who will post for months with chad pictures talking about their favorite childhood video game that thought they played more than they actually did.
When they stop talking about it like 3 days later just like oblivion because both games suck dick
Bethesda is a bad game studio
Guess what daggerfall is ass too, i don’t care what youtube retards say.
“Hurr durr when you mod in a bunch of content and ignore a lot of shitty parts of daggerfall its actually pretty cool”
Morrowind is also just okay, its fine. It being interesting makes up for a lot of its shortcomings