Less than 24 hours before Divinity: Original Sin 3 is announced, is your body ready /vrpg/?
>>3888992>Divinity: Original Sin 3They already made that game, it came out more than a year ago.
Larian already ruined my goodwill with their last game.
>>3888992>another trash shitfestNo thanks. The OC Origins idea was retarded from the beginning. Their shit writing, humor, characters, combat, ui, quests and level design can fuck off too.
>>3888992Didn't they want to make sci-fi crap or a Divinity X-Com style game?
>>3889005Wow how terrible for them, they'll just have to settle for the millions of new fans they gained.
>>3889144>company abandons its core customers that propelled it to success and fame in search of fickle trend-chasers that will abandon them for the next new thingTale as old as time
>>3889144You're a repulsive creature and your soul will languish in both this world and the next
>>3889144i'm always amused by this kind of response because what makes you think that anon wasn't just expressing himself? why do you think he cares that other people buy shit? really weird clapback.
They should stick to licensed games, they suck at designing systems.
>>3889114man an XCom game with fantasy troopers would be dope
>>3889148You're not a core customer, you're just a tasteless seething retard, every studio would be better without your feedback.
>>3889105Pretty sure it won't beat bg3 and it will fail.
>>3889254>t. tasteless seething retard
>>3889260It won't beat BG3 without being an Official D&D Product but just being able to say "from the makers of Baldurs Gate 3" will make it a sure hit.
Yep, it was Divinity.
>>3889334>will make it a sure hit.No it won't. BG3 had a massive budget and the D&D setting behind it. No one gives a fuck about the Divinity setting.
>>3889377Can this faggot Sven get his head out of the gutter for one single game?
>>3889453it's their style
>>3889453No
>>3889459context of these "undead"?
>>3889478They're all the same person. The princess of the undead. The other forms represent various story endings she can have.
Did they tone down the muscalar anatomy weirdness of elves?Would the lizarded elf
>>3889483Seems so. If they're going to pull in the camera and do more BG3 style cinematics I can see them wanting them to be more broadly appealing to people used to making pretty female elves and tieflings. And Larian certainly isn't averse to changing how races look from game to game if they feel like it. Also the lizards are mostly like their DOS version but seem a little less long and slinky.
>>3889485Do the lizards have two schlongs in DOS? Asking for scientelfic reasons.
>>3889487>scientelfic>>3889483>muscalar You're brown.
>amerimutts projecting
>>3889478AFAIK she's a skelly and you can use magic to glue flesh for her to feel something during sex. You can later sacrifice her to gain more power.
>>3889459Damn, I should give Dragon Commander another try. IIRC there was a way to skip the shittacular combat by hoarding resources/bonuses, then autoresolving with little/no losses.
>>3889558I thought it never came out? Or is that the sequel
>>3889144Millions if new fans. I've never met anyone who's actually played Divinity Sins or really recommended it and I pretty much only play MMORPGs. You're just coping like a Happy Donkey faggot.
>>3889597Sounds like (You) problems all around.>I pretty much only play MMORPGs. Lol. Original Sin 2 was incredibly popular and successful. It sold more than 7 million copies before BG3 was released. Next you'll say you play gacha and try to pretend like your misguided takes matter.
Get hype
>>3889393D:OS2 was quite literally the most sold crpg of all time until BG3 came out thougheverbeit.>>38893345e is unironically a much better system than anything Larian's designed on their own.
>>3889625>5e is unironically a much better systemI understand not liking Larians jank, but let’s not be silly here and say ridiculous things. 5th edition is complete garbage.
>>3888992For me it was the only announcement that piqued my interest. Cool trailer.
>>38896305e is not particularly good, but it's somehow still better than the DOS systems.
>>3889625>thougheverbeitWhy would you willingly paint yourself as a faggot whose post doesn't deserve to be taken seriously?
>>3889637I have 264.8 hours played in Original Sin 2 and 372.4 hours played in Baldur's Gate 3. The D:OS systems are vastly superior to BG3's.
>>3889597Did you not pay attention to BG3? Had insane numbers and has sold like 15 million copies so far. Even if people didn't play Divinity Original Sin 1/2 this game will sell like crazy based on BG3 alone, which gained Larian millions of new fans.
>>3889597>I've never met anyone who's actually played Divinity SinsI played it with gf so there's at least one girl in the world who played it>>3889665With DOS2 I was surprised how popular "oldschool" rpgs could still get. Later of course BG3 came lol. Who would've thought. Massive, massive popularity.
I wish they'd make a new game in the vein of Divine Divinity. I assume the new one will be more like Divinity 2.
>>3889558>IIRC there was a way to skip the shittacular combat by hoarding resources/bonuses, then autoresolving with little/no losses.wait that's my WotR crusade playstyle
>>3889637Well, the company producing DnD, like, specializes in RPG rulesets for decades, so it has to be just a freak outlier coincidence.
>>3889665Damn, -75% discount never
>>3888992Larian games are so fucking shit
>>3888992I will never play a game that has ever fucked with ARG style marketing
>>3889671>With DOS2 I was surprised how popular "oldschool" rpgs could still get. Later of course BG3 came lol. Who would've thought. Massive, massive popularity.Notice the commonality? Co-op play in an age of Steam and Discord and people who don't like to go outside. Surprised more RPGs haven't caught on to this.
>>3889717You can't afford $60 for a game?
>>3889717It doesn't have Denuvo, anon.
>>3888992I hope it´s a CRPG and not an ARPG. I would probably play it either way and i know Divinity are traditionally ARPGs and OS are CRPGs but i want to believe...
>>3889792I hope it becomes more common, unsurprisingly multiplayer is a good fit for RPGs.Maybe Elden Ring Nightreign is a practice run for a proper party co-op From Software game.And perhaps Divinity too puts more focus on multiplayer. One can hope.
>>3889808Could but should not. I shall one day however. Just wait till the mortgage ends!
>>3889808BG3 isn’t worth full price. 20 bucks at most.>t. played and finished bg3
>>3889774You never played Halo?
>>3889816they probably go with crpg, hence the "reboot".
>>3889823If one of the best RPGs ever made with hundreds of hours of content and thousands of mods is not worth the $60, then nothing is.
>>3889816The millions of new fans who showed up for BG3 will want a crpg, it'll be a crpg.
>>3889841>one of the best RPGs ever madeLess than a quarter of players finished it, it's like you're ideologically required to glaze it but no one actually enjoys playing it.
>>3889841I didn’t say it was a short game. I got about 120ish hours out of it. It’s a shit game and I didn’t enjoy it. I finished it out of the sunk cost fallacy and a morbid desire to see just how bad it got. Easily the most disappointing RPG I’ve played in decades, and I played Dungeon Lords at launch
>>3889841>then nothing is.
>>3889859>Less than a quarter of players finished it, it's like you're ideologically required to glaze it but no one actually enjoys playing it.Not him, but you're retarded. Completion rates for most games are extremely low. Just look at any study on completion rates.
>>3889912That would be like $140 in today's money with inflationThanks, Obama
>>3889991$50.99, actually.So $60 is still a rip.
>>3890005Inflation statistics have been rigged for the last 40 years to hide how badly everyone is being robbed by central banks debasing the currency1963 minimum wage, expressed in the melt value of silver quarters, was over 55/hour todayHenry Fords guys were getting over 1,000 a day in terms of gold, today
>>3890009Those guys couldn't even afford a computer or internet, lol.
>>3889841>hundreds of hours of contentlmao shills really lie blatantly
I haven't played DoS 1 or 2Should I play them before this comes out?
>>3890083Depends if you like CRPGs or not. DoS 1 is pretty basic. Probably like a 6-7/10. DoS 2 is a bigger story, better gameplay, but I really hated the armor system. Sounds like this new one will be standalone so you don't need to play them to understand what's going on.
>>3890083DOS2 is a good game and fun IMO. DOS1 is pretty meh and forgettable.The armor system of DOS2 is pretty polarizing, some people like it and some people hate it. Characters have varying amounts of magical armor and physical armor. Attacks do either magical or physical damage. As long as you still have armor, you are immune to crowd control and debuffs from that type of damage, and once your armor is depleted, you're vulnerable. Attacks are generally deterministic and will usually be guaranteed to land, no RNG or saving throws. I personally like the armor system, but I can understand why people dislike it.DOS1 uses a more traditional percentage RNG system for debuffs. That boss might have a 90% chance of resisting, but will always have that 10% chance of it sticking.As anon said, these games are all set in the same universe and reference some of the lore of previous entries, but the stories themselves are usually self-contained, and usually not a direct continuation of previous characters or stories. DOS1/DOS2 were both "reboots" of the older Divine Divinity games anyway.
>>3889260I sure hope it fails. Larian is the most overrated trash developer this decade.
>>3889717You can get a 100% discount if you look in the right places.
>>3889665It's most likely related to Stranger Things putting D&D into the normalfag mind. Normalfags were hyped up for buying overpriced JotC products already and were looking forward to playing any big name D&D game. We all know that normalfags are easily susceptible to any Jewish propaganda so of course those piggies slurped up this slop. And then we have the Biodrones who played this because it was like DA:O. Literally, the game is Bioware slop emulator based on the lat 00's/early 10's Bioware slop.
>>3890504Everything you just said is wrong. Larian was already the biggest crpg developer of all time, Stranger Things was culturally irrelevant and the game is about as far from a Bioware game in a mechanical sense as it is possible to get.
>>3890505>Stranger Things was culturally irrelevantNot him but you missed the point. No normalfag knew what D&D was until a combination of Stranger Things, Covid and e-celebs playing D&D. It doesn't matter if ST is no longer culturally relevant, it did its job.
>>3890510That doesn't matter. DoS 2 came out in 2016 and wasn't D&D. It sold like 7.5million copies as of a few years ago. It was the highest selling CRPG ever before BG3. Stranger things had nothing to do with Larian getting big and BG3 selling well.
>>3890520>>3890510>>3890505While I don't doubt that the game would sell well regardless simply off of the Larian name, the reason it sold so well was a combination of all the things>Stranger Things and Critical Role getting Normies interested in DnD in general>Baldur's Gate 1 and 2 being relatively well known so more brand appeal>Larian being a very solid game developer banking a lot of built up good will between DOS 1 and 2>The game actually just being goodIt sold particularly well because of all these things, just like Elden Ring sold so well because of a combination of Fromsoft being so good, getting GRRM in on it before GoT died in public perception, and built up community hype
>>3890524You're overestimating stranger things and critical role. Your last 3 points are why it did so well. It sold 2.5 million copies in EA alone. Normies aren't going to go buy a buggy EA game with 1 act.
>>3890525I'm not overestimating it, but BG3 certainly sold better off of the extra interest in DnD overall. But yes, certainly a lot of it was just Larian
>>3890524>>Stranger Things and Critical Role getting Normies interested in DnD in generalAre there numbers that support this?
>>3890510>No normalfag knew what D&D waslol, if only that were true. they knew about it, it just wasn't cool until being a "nerd" became sheik because being special snowflake of some kind was hip.
>>3890529No, it's just people making up things and assuming it helped.
>>3890529
>>3890531Intellection is opaque to people like you.
>>3890535>When season one was released in July 2016, there was a 10% increase in sales in the Role Playing & Fantasy category in August 2016.Less exciting when looking beyond the AI answerI made quick searches but couldn't find stats for sales. Not saying these shows didn't make people more aware of D&D, but it would be cool to have numbers.
>>3889859
>>3890026Nah, he's got a point.
>>3890529>>3890535>>3890538>>3890545It basically did nothing.
>>3890545I don't think Wizards publishes their sales. The fact is that for anyone connected to the hobby, it's obvious that there are many more players now than there used to be. It's a feedback loop between culture and media, where Stranger Things and Critical Role were themselves a product of the growing interest in D&D. Hard to trace or understand culture with figures.
>>3890552Damn how many times have you played it? I did 3 full play throughs and I'm only at like 220 hours.
>>38905555 and counting now, but I like to take my time:)
>>3890553>did nothingCan't read, huh.>The primary link is indirect via D&D popularization
>>3890504Yep. The DnD license practically prints money. People forget that the DnD movie grossed 2 billion dollars on opening weekend, and the last DnD game before BG3, DnD: Dark Alliance, went on to sell 30 million copies.
>>3890559Yeah, the only link is indirect and it was D&D being searched for more often. No spikes in BG3 related to stranger things. When you have 100 nerds a year searching for D&D you're going to see a 600% increase when other people search for it. Not sure what to tell you if can't understand facts.
>>3890558Even on subsequent play throughs? I took my time on the first and listened to everything, but skipped past some of the dialogue I'd already heard before. Only thing I didn't skip was new stuff like when I did dark urge.
>>3890552>>3890555Zoomers don't know they can close programs. They just leave them running. Like overnight or while they're at work or whatever. They literally just leave stuff running. I'm not making this shit up. They do.And I have a difficult time understanding or explaining this, so I'm trying to emphasize it so I can believe it myself.But watching the children try (and fail) to use computers is the most damning indictment of our species I can potentially articulate.
>>3890564Anon, the point was the growing interest in the culture for D&D well before BG3 released. Holy shit you are thick.
>>3890565Yeah, I love to take my time with the combat especially. My first playthrough was 340 hours; I've never had a run under 150 hours.>>3890567You're babbling, sir.
>>3890564>When you have 100 nerds a year searching for D&Dthis is fun, you can have a whole ass argument using ai to combat retards making shit up to support their arguments
>>3890577I know it's crazy right?
>>3890582yup :)
>>3890583Damn Googles search AI sucks. Contradicts itself a bunch of times in its own response and bases everything on guesses. No better then half the retards in here.
>>3890584that's a good thing, exposes how statistics are what exactly what mark twain said they were.
>>3889827Only 1
>retards unironically posting google's shit AI summaries at each other as if it's in any way valid dataGrim, it's so unbelievably over.
Given the DnD brand has such white-hot cultural cachet, I can only assume the new Warlock game will be a chart-topping powerhouse. I hope other companies give its launch a wide berth.
>>3890588Damn that's some fine logic there. There's no way it won't sell at least 10 million copies based on how well BG3 did because of stranger things.
>>3890587I was posting Grok. Googles AI summary sucks, chatgpt also sucks.
>>3890588>Guy ignoring every other point madeThat said though, Warlock doesn't look "terrible" so maybe if the gameplay loop is good. I feel like Wizards always makes a mistakes with these sorts of games because they get lazy and force devs into it instead of letting real passion projects be passion projects, like BG3. That said though, BG3 was lucky to come out before wizards started cratering the brand with their OGL and critical role's exit from the brand. Solasta actually looks kind of decent enough so maybe there may be potential. BG3 came out at a very good time, though currently I think there's a bit of DnD fatigue More specific Wizards of the Coast fatigue
>>3890600It's all going to come down to if you can play as a guy, or if you're stuck playing as the chick in the trailer.
>>3890524You forgot:>bear fucking memes and gay romance
>>3890600>Guy ignoring every other point madeI think he's focusing on the important point of the previous conversation. People are saying BG3 did so well because Stranger Things made D&D insanely popular. So there's really only 2 outcomes. Either they're right, and Warlock is going to sell amazingly because of how popular D&D is because of stranger things, or it's going to be an average game with average sales.
>>3890616>ignores critical role>ignores streamers who like critical role playing bg3Very weak.The better test is if Larian's next game does better despite having no D&D label.
>>3890524This is probably the best grasp of the situation, though it's also high production values and the extremely long Early Access which caused it to have word of mouth for a very long time.
>>3890655I really liked the circa-2020 early access version of BG3. When the full game came out I felt like I got bait and switched hard, I hated it. I dunno what the fuck happened in those intervening years, but it was fucked up.
>>3889148>core customersYou.... you want them to make generic Diablo clones ad infinitum? The real crime isn't Larian losing 5 autists whose favorite game of all time is Beyond Divinity, but that the new fans of BG3 will never, ever play the original BG 1/2, or Planescape: Torment, or Mask of the Betrayer.
>>3890668I WANT TO BE A DRAGON!!!!
>>3890613This too>>3890602The chick is hot enough and I think as long as her personality (if there is one) isn't some gay feminist boss girl shit it'll be fine. People like Bayonetta because she's fun, for instance.>>3890616>>3890647Fair points there but I'll have to agree a better test is if the Divinity reboot does better. Even brand appeal isn't going to help a game that blatantly looks like slop, and while Warlock is on thin ice that depends on the actual gameplay shown later
>>3890655>>3890666Yeah the long EA both helped get more sales but I think it also ruined the original intent behind the characters usually in ways that are worse as well as ate up so much dev time in reworks of story and content that we got cucked on companions. To name some shit off the top of my head>Shart went from a genuine evil/selfish alignment abrasive cunt with a soft side to just generic nice sarcastic elf>Astarion no longer a traumatized victim of Cazador using his angsty rogue edge to mask the trauma (no chase dream, I think)>Wyll went from a conman fraud who magic'd a devil deal to be seen as a hero to a genuine hero>Gael less abrasive (this is whatever)>Halsin full companion because hunky bear man>Cutting out werewolf halfling bard>possibly one more companion in the works because infinity years refining Karlach>Karlach quest unfinished because act 4/upper city cut entirelySome of these are because of Larian tempering their ambitions sure, but also because they took community feed back too seriously at times with shit like "Woah, these guys (who are evil dickheads) aren't very nice to me"We never did get that more pleasant 2nd set of companions, they just made our guys less dickish and evil. Also, not having Durge be the default Tav is lame. Very much overshadows the main campaign and it forced the story content to be split in a way that favors more a generic fantasy self-insert than a proper RPG story. This is just my take though
>>3890671I agree. Also bothered me that Larian lied about shit instead of being honest.>uhh the origin chars are all edgy cunts because we had to front-load the game with all the evil NPCs, otherwise players would never playtest them for us. there's totally a second full party of good-aligned NPCs in the greater Niagra Falls area, they just go to a different school>uhh yeah the playable upper city we had in our promo materials? yea, we totally didn't cut that because we ran out of time and money and wanted to rush the game to market ahead of Starfield. We always intended for Cazador's mansion to be up on top of a wall, reached through a guard tower's ladderAnd Daisy was a way more clever idea than the fucking Emperor.
>>3890670>Fair points there but I'll have to agree a better test is if the Divinity reboot does better. Even brand appeal isn't going to help a game that blatantly looks like slop, and while Warlock is on thin ice that depends on the actual gameplay shown laterDoes better compared to what? BG3, or DoS 2?
I wish Larian would've died after Divine Divinity
>>3890673Yeah, unfortunately. I think it was a case of the Troika-ish curse of >too much ambition>too little funding and timeThat's at least my justification for part 2. I can understand it being hard to developers to admit when this happens but the first part is so cringe that they do. And then for the "good" aligned PC they just cobbled together a couple of fan favorites and acted like this was a cool thing to do.>>3890676Either? Both? Different test for either>BG3Truly it was all Larian from the start>Better than DOS2 but not better than BG3Brand appeal + mixture of shit happening, DnD name carrying I suppose. If it was really all Larian this game would blow BG3 out of the water as it's supposed to be much bigger than BG3
I wouldn't go too far into making claims about what influenced what, without showing compelling proof.Too many factors to choose from, and the ones that "make sense" may just mislead and distract.
>>3890686There's no ability to have compelling proof when talking about such an amorphous topic as what caused a particular game to blow up. This is just discussion for fun people posting their views, this isn't a court of law or a serious study.
There is a very simple test we can run to know if DOS3 will be good: If the main female companion of DOS3 is not busty blond fuckmeat, then the game will suck. Period. All 6 main characters in DOS2 have proper gender roles; none are weird LGBTQIA2++ inserts. The entire aesthetic of DOS2 is diet Tolkienesque mixed with some piratepunk and classic D&D notes. Compare that to BG3 which is some perverted S&M freak show where anyone can fuck anyone or anything else. If there is a main female companion who looks like Kamala Harris or like a wine aunt as you have in BG3 then it will not be good. >but muh combat systemyeah fuck off. The narrative and the aesthetic in a narrative driven CRPG comes before any game system because the aesthetic is the outer layer that you have to interface with. If you force yourself to eat excessive poz in order to enjoy the game itself then you have no dignity and your opinions should be ignored.
>>3890688It is fun discussion, and it's better not to get hung up on one factor alone.Besides, it's a common slight from detractors to imply success only came from outside factors, so I would avoid that too if the aim is to have a jovial and honest conversation.
>>3890689Divinity will suck either way. It'll be more of dude remember this character?, talking animals, awkward porn scenes with awfully written romance, and their attempts at Terry Ratshit humour.
>>3890673>there's totally a second full party of good-aligned NPCsKarlach, Gale (kind of), Jaheira, Wyll and Halsin are all some variation of good aligned though.
>>3888992dos2 was cooler than bg3 so i hope dos3 is cool too!!!!
>new game bad old game good
>Act 1 will start on a beach>Braccus Rex will be a bossfightWhat else will definitely happen?
>>3890690It's also common for fanboys to think that external success giving factors detract from a game's quality, rather than being a persistent facet of the chaotic interactions of human existence. It's just a game, it's just words online.
>>3890709You’re missing the point. They took player feedback about the EA party members (which included Gale and Wyll) being mostly edgy evil cunts (Gale was basically neutral) and then heavily rewrote most of them to be more bland, agreeable, and focus group approved. Wyll in particular had his backstory completely rewritten, from an insecure fraud to muh noble hero.We got almost all of the “origin characters” at the start. There was no “second party”. They just didn’t expect players to dislike all of their offered characters, and so made up an excuse while quietly rewriting the characters before release.
>>3890709The problem here actually is that>Gale is a neutral character who can be swayed either way and stayed that way>Wyll was a neutral conman rewritten to be a good guy>Karlach was always good but she was intended to be part of the 2nd batch>Jaheira is pure fanservice, not a real intended companion>Halsin is pure fanservice again>Shart is a neutral hoe who was rewritten to be nice to you and palatable but she's neutral and can swing either way2 if the good guys are rewrites and 1 of them is neutral. Not necessarily a good representation>>3890691There won't be duuuude remember this guy? Because it takes place like a thousand ish years in the future outside of the setting fixtures like Brappus Rex
>>3890878There were three more origin characters intended post EA with all three of them being good aligned>Halfing bard(werewolf)>Karlach>One more that never made it far into development(repurposed writing for Dark Urge I believe)The issue is Karlach took up a monumental amount of time and they decided they would rather scrap all of act 4 and rewrite the story than try to make it functional. Likely because they realized the game was already huge and a bit overly ambitious
>>3890789I'm telling you now, Brappus will become a hidden party member or something
So have we decided if this is just a reboot, soft reboot or a straight continuation of Divinity 2 (2012)?
>>3891245Soft reboot like every other game taking place like thousands of years into the future.DOS2 was a soft reboot of DOS1 just like DOS1 was a soft reboot of the last one
>>3891247I hope my skeleton bro Fane didn't die like a bitch.
>>3891248>Gods are SUPER dead by the time of the rebootFane never stood a chance. I hope he comes back though, he was a real funny cunt
I still do not really get Divinity lore and how DoS1 and 2 actually connect.Like, does anything that happens at 1 matter for 2?
>>3891256>Like, does anything that happens at 1 matter for 2?Import your save from 1 with one of each cheese in your inventory, and you can increase your maximum party size.
>>3891256The only thing you ever need to worry about is whether or not you save the world by the end of the game, everything else except for our GOAT Brappus Rex is inconsequential
>>3891259>Somehow, Braccus Rex has returned
>>3891288Guess who’s backBack againGuess who’s backTell a friend
>>3890550Twitcher 3 is also overrated garbo so my point stands.
>>3888992Larian has made 1 good game. Divine Divinity. Everything else has been shit drivel.
>>3889912https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflationAdjust for inflation.
>>3891511Adjust for advances in computing and use of middleware
>>3890878>Gale was basically neutralHe still is. He's a polite scholar with basic decency, but nowhere near some noble, selfless hero.
>>3891500You're a retard. The point is that the usual completion rates for long RPGs is that.
>>3891541I rarely finish games, even if I enjoy them a lot. Including most classics.
Yes because a company that made everything about politics and gender inside my fantasy game made me so excited for them to ruin another franchise. BG3 is ass, Larian sucks now and will continue to feed mobs endless derivative trash. Shame I used to like them as devs. Just because I’m an old fag I’ll say this Divinity 2 >takes off clothes>people run from you and think you’re crazyBaldog shit 3 > take of clothes and see genitals.> absolutely 0 fucking reaction from anything in the entire game.
>>3891546Are you capable of discussing games without /pol/tardation?
>>3891547>reading and replying to Goop noop king of boopstop giving retards attention
>>3891547>Are you capable of discussing games without /pol/tardation?NTA, but this is begging the question: are modern developers capable of developing games without putting such content into them? To me, that would be the obvious solution.
>>3891589>NTA, but this is begging the question: are modern developers capable of developing games without putting such content into them?It's always been there, you've just been trained by the outrage media to notice them and obsess over them.Take Fallout 2:>has gay and lesbian marriage>has infidelity>has venereal diseases>has jokes at Republicans>you can marry the town slut/himbo>said slut and himbo are siblings, and they also slept with one another>gay fisting by a Supermutant if you lose at arm wrestling>can whore yourself out every step of the way>can star in porn movies>can be a gay fluffer in porn movies
>>3891592>It's always been thereYep, a steady slide into decadence and ennui for the last couple hundred years, accelerating as media transmission grew more and more powerful.Such a boring culture.
>>3888992Divinity 2 is on sale, is it worth playing? I don’t love baldurs gate 3 autistic faithful adherence to DnD mechanics
>>3891610Worth what?
>>389161125 bucks
>>3891592>It's always been thereYup, the slow subversion of culture has been cooking for a couple hundred years, but it was a slow boil, and now they’re sloppy and push too fast.>Take Fallout 2The difference was, I was a left-leaning teenager at the time FO2 came out, and didn’t have the life experience or historical knowledge to recognize what was going on, why, or who was doing it, I thought it was natural and just how things are.>you've just been trained by the outrage media to notice them and obsess over themNope. Just someone who rolled a 20 on a save vs illusion magic and woke up. Know what’s not normal? Non-binary feminine penises, body type 1/2, pronouns, and vitiligo sliders.
>>3891613But your money and time has no value to me. I don't care if you waste it or not.
>>3891613DOS2 is worth 25 bucksDivinity 2 is not worth 25 bucks
>>3891622Divinity original sin 2 is on sale for $25 bucks. I omitted original sin for shorthand not realizing there was also a game just called divinity 2. Please don’t be mad at me
>>3891625Go, and sin no more.
>>3891622>>3891625The only pre-OS game I'd say worth any value currently is Dragon Commander. Such a based product should be cherished
>>3891679Divine Divinity had some bitching tracks
>>3891681I would judge things differently on a music/sound design front. DOS1 and DOS2 are painfully pretty basic
>>3891679Do you have a link to that guide on how to avoid manual battles? They're the weakest part of DC.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-12-16/-baldur-s-gate-3-maker-promises-divinity-will-be-next-levelTurn based confirmed if anyone doubted. EA too, but probably not in 2026.
Fuck Larian and fuck turn-based RPGs. I want rtwp back but BG3 essentially out the final nail in that coffin.
>>3891615>dey making me play gay frog vidya
>>3891615Sure, Vladimir. Sure. Hey, when you die in Ukraine, can I have your ... uhhh.... what exactly do you have over there in Ruzzia? Other than the alcohol and AIDS, I mean.
>>3892369Holy fucking absolute, completely, utterly, and irrevocably mindbroken.
>>3892374>aHURR durrrr ya dey do be doh!>awww daaaaayumn cuh he be tripin>fr fr no cap on god>skibidi rizzler toilet
Larian has made 1 good game. Baldur's Gate 3. Everything else has been shit drivel.
I like DOS2 more than bg3
>>3889841>If one of the best RPGs ever made with hundreds of hours of content and thousands of mods is not worth the $60, then nothing is.Okay, but we are not talking about Skyrim here anon
>>3892174Sorry no but that does sound useful, best of luck for it>>3892210The main thing I think holding this back from getting a 2026 EA is that they have to remake the engine (again, that's three times now for with OS1) but Larian usually only releases a trailer when they have an early access they can print. I'm assuming Act 1 will be available this summer. Also>turn based system>but designed for a video game again instead of 5E slopThis is both a good and a bad thing. OS2's gameplay was kind of gimmicky and while BG3 played pretty slowly and had 0 character builds because of 5E it had a genuine element of puzzle combat to it that didn't rely on the environment trying to turn you into a guy storming Omaha
>>3892404>>3892414Neither of those are good games, though. They're iconic because they demonstrate how to ruin a classic-styled rpg. They are a laundry list of specific anti-designs which used to plague the genre before modern game design solved those problems. Every other rpg developer has avoided those mistakes ever since, leaving Larian the single studio with repeated failures of such extremes.
>>3892499Yep I don't get why they still do turn-based in 2025
BG3 is pure dogshit. Everything about it is bad. The only reason its popular is because of normalfag appeal.I like Larian and hope they free themselves of the shackles of D&D because I like DOS2 and it was better in all aspects.
>>3891547It was a stupid post but I do agree people should react. It would make stripping hotter.
>>3891592>gay fisting by a Supermutant if you lose at arm wrestlinghey I played a female character so it's no homosame for the porn gig and fucking Karl
>>3891615>and vitiligo slidersmeds now
Viscerally showing a man burning alive with his limbs ripping off and comparing it to fried chicken and then watching his body morph and split apart into a demon during what would be a prime time show that featured donkey kong going boom seems more objectionable then any political messaging to be honest
>>3895239This is political
>>3895120>meds now
>>3895388Yes, meds.
I just bought divinity original sin 1 and 2.i like that 1 starts with a murder mystery and we are an investigator
