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What are the best story decisions BH can make? Darksider or Lightsider? Is it better to become a Mandalorian after Act 1, or is one better off reject Mandalore's offer? Should the player kill Torian's father on Taris or capture him? And idk which is the best move to select of all 5 choices given at the end of Act 3:

>kill Supreme Chancellor after he pardons you of your $10 million credit bounty
>kill Supreme Chancellor BEFORE he pardons you of your $10 million credit bounty
>capture Supreme Chancellor after he pardons you of your $10 million credit bounty
>capture Supreme Chancellor BEFORE he pardons you of your $10 million credit bounty
>betray Darth Tormen by joining forces with Supreme Chancellor Dorian Janarus

Which are the best crew skills and which is the "master race" choice for BH? At launch BH could only be Human, Cyborg, Chiss, Zabrak or Rattaki. Nowadays BH can be any playable race via play2win. So I'd estimate the best choice would be male Cyborg or Miraluka. Sadly only humans can be Cyborgs so you can't play Cyborg Chiss, Twi'lekian Cyborgs or etc

Kotor 3's BH is based. His ship would BTFO then Ebon Hawk. Perhaps the most powerful non-Force sensitive being in all of SW. He kills more Jedi/Sith in an average month than most professionals manage to kill in an average lifetime. Certainly more than 10 times as many Jedi kills than Atton Rand can claim. He even killed Jedi Master Kellian Jarro (who once killed over 100 Mandalorians with a single Force push to put the powerlevels in perspective) and nuked his Republic Dreadnaught! Too bad the DLCs were such a disaster especially for non-Jedi/non-Sith classes. In theory the DLC may have been less gay if Trooper/Agent/Smuggler/Bounty Hunter become a Jedi/Sith after completing Act 3. guess you just cant do that bc muh MMO balancing bs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pukq8Xe3KV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFz75A9Clxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ru46MJY0aA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpHyN2QXNaY
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>>3889239
only faggots willingly don't play Jedi (or at least Sith) in SW games
>oh look at me I'm so special I don't wanna be a cool space wizard like everybody else,
yeah yeah chop your dick off if you really wanna impress me you special snowflake trany
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The best choice with any class is to roleplay an actual character with quirks and principles. Swtor gives a lot of room for it. There is no metagame with storytelling, only fun.

>>3889266
You didn’t play the game you cockmongling faggot. You can play every class story on the same account in swtor.
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>>3889239
Agent is better
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>>3889239
I like Sith Warrior and Sith Inquisitor
>>3889266
>playing jedincel
Same shit every game, or tropper shit. Or if you play sith you play rule of two boring shit or fallen to the dark side jedincel. Only tortanic allows you to play a proper sith of sith order.
That's how sad and shit Star Wars games are that a bad mmo is the only game that really tries something else.
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Threadly reminder that Star Wars is an inverted hermeneutic written by subversive Freemasons, a revenge story about the Anti-Christ (Luke) and the Jews (Jedi) overthrowing the Son (Anakin) and the Father (Palpatine). Han Solo is Azazel, the fallen angel.
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>>3889266
checked except remember not everybody wants to RP as the Godtier elite profession like Sith or Jedi. sometimes it is also fun to RP as the underdog profession like a Smuggler or Bounty Hunter too, kid

>>3889344
checked. Agent was good too. A rigorously patriotic RP'd Human Agent paired with Kaliyo Djannis is one of my favorite couples in the Star Wars universe, pretty good writing in the realm of opposite attraction trope. And nice that she's romancable the moment you get your ship like Jedi Knight's Kira is. Mako should've been a romance option since as soon as you get your ship too, would've been a slight improvement on the BH story

One question is who is a bigger mary sue? The Agent or the Bounty Hunter?

>>3889333
checked. yeah if there was metagaming the story, you could hypothetically challenge Mandalore to a duel immediately 5 minutes after he makes you a Mandalorian in order to kill him and claim his title(which is how he got the title to begin with ironically). although one can see the same issue with the Dragonborn claiming Ulfric's High King title in Skyrim, which isn't even an MMO and theoretically should include much more metagaming the plot

>>3889442
Checked. but wtf?
>Anti-Christ (Luke)
What spices are you chewing?
>Jews (Jedi)
Jews can't be Jedi. Jedi don't even believe in money first of all, Obi-Wan did not have a credit to his name when he hired the ride to the Alderaan. Luke had to sell his speeder because Kenobi was penniless
>Son (Anakin)
If you mean he's the Jedi Messiah figure? sure maybe he's Jesus Christ except in a far, far away Galaxy
>Father (Palpatine)
How the hell is Palpatine God the father? He's the most evil fictional character ever put to paper
>Han Solo is Azazel, the fallen angel
No Han's actually just a hard-boiled smuggler turned high ranking Rebel Captain
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>>3891060
>but wtf?
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
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>>3891060
Bounty Hunter is a bigger mary sue given what he's allowed to get away with and the strength of the enemies he canonically killed. I think the only time he's actually pulled up is when you can be killed by the Dread Masters.
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How come you can't be an Indian bounty hunter? George Lucas was very firm that Indians in Star Wars are not exactly human, they're actually an alien race named Chalactans. Was he also firm with Lucas Arts that Chalactans are not allowed to be playable races in the games? Maybe they didn't want to pay multiple voice actors for the same class but a different race? It would not be particularly immersive watching Steve Blum as a VA for a Hindu. idk

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chalactan/Legends
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>>3892302
>Indians in Star Wars are not exactly human, they're actually an alien race
Excuse me, I thought this was fiction?
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>>3889239
>bioware
>mmo
sorry I’m not trans
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>>3892316
>Fiction
No this shit is not a fucking game. Technically there is nothing fictional about SWTOR seeing as the game literally tells you it all happened long ago in a far, far away Galaxy. Nearly all of the races (not counting Droids) you encounter in SWTOR are the actual ancestors of various irl Earth races though it is unknown how they arrived in here the Sol System. I'll type up a greentext so you can properly educate yourself:
>Chalactans: Space Indians
>Ithorians: Space Sri Lankans
>Toydarians: Space New Yorker Jews (mind focused on profit)
>Muuns: Space Israeli Jews
>Nikto: Space Palestinians
>Dugs: Space Rottweilers
>Hutts: Space Yakubs
>Ugnaughts: Space Mexicans
>Nautolans: Space Hawaiians
>Wookiees: Space Alaskan Malamutes
>Miraluka: Space Hyberboreans
>Rodians: Space Italians
>Gungans: Space Jamaicans
>Neimodians: Space Chinese
>Selonians: Space Otters
>Utapauns: Space French
>Tusken Raiders: Space Somalians
>Ewoks: Space Redskin Natives
>Zabraks: Space Japanese
>Chiss: Space Russians
>Twi'lek: Space Thai
>Cathar: Space Turks
>Bith: Space South Koreans
>Devaronians: Space Syrians
>Aqualish: Space Lebanonese
>Bothans: Space Beagles
>Echani: Space North Koreans
>Gamorreans: Space Pigs
>Rattataki: Space South Africans
>Gand: Space Vietnamese
>Weequay: Space Brazilians
>Rakghouls: Space Zombies
>Duros: Space Egyptians
>Jawas: Space Gypsies
>Kitonaks: Space Albanians
>Geonosians: Space Mongolians
>Trandoshans: Space Dinosaurs
>Sullustans: Space Laotians
>Clawdites: Space Transgenders
>Selkath: Space Swiss
>Talz: Space Eskimos
>Ortolans: Space Elephants
>Kowakian Monkey Lizards: Space Australian Aboriginals
>Hapans: Space Australlians
>Togruta: Space Malaysians
>Mon Calamarians: Space Irish
>Quarren: Space British
>Killiks: Space Nepalese
>Arconans: Space Arabs
>Houks: Space Iraqis
>Gizka: Space Cats
>Gran: Space Cubans
>Humans: Space Burgers

>>3892332
Congratulations on your detransition efforts sir, someday you might even be a real man
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>>3891878
you can be killed?
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>>3891878
Agent is the bigger mary sue if you want to roleplay somebody who outright hates the Empire. There is no way anybody could resist whatever advanced indoctrination tactics Imperial Intelligence utilize
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>>3891063
No! NOOOO! That's impossible!!!
>>3889442
Lucas definitely has ties to Spielberg, but what other evidence is there that Georgey is a m*sonfag? I've always assumed he was just a Christian nerd with autism.
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>>3892452
Where does it say Ithorians smell that bad?
Sullustans are Space Mexicans, see Nien Nunb.
Rakatans are Space Yakubs.
Neimodians are Space Japs, George was clear on that.
Gossams are Space Chinese.
Core World Humans are Space British.
Epicanthix are Space Asians.
Nubians are Nilotic Space Africans.
Arkanians are Space Agarthans/Atlanteans/Hyberborians.
Korunnai are Bantu Space Africans.
Corellians are Space Cowboys.
Duros are Space Spanish/Porchgeese.
Mandalorians are Space Cossacks.
Tionese Humans are Space Russians.
Redskin Sith are Space Carthaginians.
Alsakans should probably be Space Germans considering their shared origins, similarity, & economic power yet rivalry with Coruscant.
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>>3889239
I wish the combat was actual a true action (shooter / melee) combat, it's 95% of the gameplay and it's ultra-boring af.
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>>3892452
>Rodians: Space Italians
Elaborate
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Bounty Hunters & Smugglers are a really dope aspect of the setting, the Space Western element really grounds the Space Opera part that would otherwise get stale from the stakes always being so high.
I take it SWTOR is basically dead story wise after they became so invested in a surprise third faction.
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>>3901740
>Bounty Hunters & Smugglers are a really dope aspect of the setting
Hell yeah but don't forget even Bounty Hunters, Elite Republic Troopers, Imperial Intelligence Agents and Smugglers use the Force too. For one thing just like the 4 Tortanic Force user classes (Jedi Knight, Jedi Consular, Sith Slave, Sith Warlord) Bounty Hunters & Smugglers etc suffer ugly "Darkside Corruption" facial features if they get collect enough Darksider points via evil dialogue choices. Additionally at launch Smugglers, Republic Troopers, Imperial Agents and Bounty Hunters could weaponize Force Pushes/Force Chokes/Force Slams/Sith Lighting attacks even at Level 1 on their 1st Planets Nal Hutta & Ord Mantell at Launch (3643 BBY) on December 20th 2011. But this required completing all 4 Story Episodes of Jedi Knight/Sith Warrior/Jedi Consular/Sith Slave class to Level 60 Ending to unlock the moves. Meaning at launch 99% of players running a BH or Smuggler don't have access to 4 AWESOME Force attacks!

>SW Space Western element really grounds the Space Opera
SW defines the Space Western/Space Opera crossover genre

>I take it SWTOR is basically dead story wise
Yes and no. All 4 story Episodes for all 8 classes are Golden, intended to be solo'd despite the RPG being an "MMORPG" in name. NEVER play any story DLC! The story DLCs in SWTOR are all a damn disgrace! I can recommend the recruitable HK51&Treek follower DLCs. Treek is based! Shes a rare near-Ewok sub-species native to Dathomir instead of Endor. Endor-breed Ewoks rarely live past age 150 whereas Treekiee the DLC recruitable Dathomirian-breed Ewok is over 3000 years. Obsessed with fighting/hunting/killing/justice, can be equipped with blaster pistols or blaster rifles, very cute, considers herself incredibly sexy for her species but sadly can not but romanced. very eager to leave her Homeworld venturing to the Stars exploring the Wanderhome Galaexy slaying Epic Foes! As based as Treek is I say Hk-51 is twice as fucking based!!!
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>>3889239
Anon lemme just say that I appreciate the passion you put into making this thread. You probably won't get that many replies because it's not shill content but eh I hope ppl reply.

>Best ending
AFAIK none of those endings reflect much in-game which is understandable but I'd have liked to have references like the Spy endings
You could clear the bounty to boost your *independent* reputation or keep it for infamy.

Shipping Janarus to Tormen is kind of the worst thing you could do in the OG BH story ... if what you learn of Tormen is true. And if it is true, it makes sense to remove Tormen in the same way you can help Quinn remove the insane moff
quite literally "for the Empire's sake". If anyone cries about it, they can file a report to your railgun.

>>3889266
while I don't disagree with you, there is an entire motif about force-users undersestimating normies + considering the shit the "non-force users" pull off in SWTOR, they are likely just undiscovered sensitives

>>3889442
even if that's the case, they still had to portray their """enemies""" as cartoonishly evil which they wouldn't need to if it was true. Says quite a lot when rich fucks cannot do the real thing so they need a simulacrum to cope
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>>3891878
afaik Agent gets (almost) killed when upsetting Jadus and in-game you need to get a medical probe to rezz, and there's plenty of times in the game where a non-Jedi or Sith lose the easy option of SPEECH 100 or get humbled (like when you insult the dread masters)

>>3899318
Agent and Consular have the single best options to utterly ruin their own factions, by far and with no competition
>bombs Dromund Kaas, the literal or proverbial capital of the SE, killing off perhaps dozens of Sith, their apprentices, genuinely loyal subjects and causing a logistical nightmare
all to "keep up your disguise" on Jadus's ship for a little longer
and
>explicitly kill off hundreds of Jedi MASTERS, and that's when they were unsure of the casualties + republic wide panic
all because you couldn't be assed to perform the gay ritual to banish a ghost
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>>3903470
>explicitly kill off hundreds of Jedi MASTERS
There has never been a point in Galactic History with 100s of Jedi Masters existing at the same moment. you're thinking of Jedi Knights



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