I'm mostly ready for another 6 months of every E33 thread not being about the game but instead being about a schizophrenic who thinks that you can only dislike it because it's not woke enough or something.

>>3889735
4chan pretending E33 is "LE BASED & REDPILLED GAEM" is hilarious considering the rest of the internet says the exact opposite and praises it for "not having fanservice like those icky Japanese RPGs".

>>3889732
Why do you think japs give a single fuck about this or even regard it as a jrpg, because they don't. The only ones "liking" it and thinking it's a jrpg are casual westerners that barely play rpgs.

>>3889737
It's quite literally a single dude with a mental illness. There's at least 1 on every board, and slower boards like this it's more noticeable. Still not as bad as /pw/ though.

>>3889738
I don't think the actual developers and artists at Japanese studios care.

I DO think the corporate ghouls at said studios WILL go to all of their teams who are working on JRPGs and say "You need to make this more like Expedition 33."

Exact same thing happened after Dark Souls got huge, literally everybody working on an action RPG started incorporating Soulslike elements into it.

Weebs getting cucked by the french

>>3889745
this slop was made by an Algerian jew
the f*ench are the ones cucked

>>3889739
35 year old drunk Polish NEET, to be specific.

>>3889732
works for me

>>3889732
This was exactly my concern while watching this trash get astroturfed. It's already bad enough that there are non FF games that went the route of ATB slop like Ryza's games.

>>3889740
>I DO think the corporate ghouls at said studios WILL go to all of their teams who are working on JRPGs and say "You need to make this more like Expedition 33."
No they don't, because they prioritize the japanese market first. Unless they're working on some huge AAA game like Final Fantasy, then they'll just turn it into an action game instead.
Japs no not care about E33.

>Exact same thing happened after Dark Souls got huge, literally everybody working on an action RPG started incorporating Soulslike elements into it.
You comparing Dark Souls to E33 is even more delusional. Holy fuck, you're ignorant beyond belief.

>>3889828
>ignorant beyond belief
Just terminally online finding problems to occupy his mind with

>>3889732
I dislike the parrying because I'm bad at it. I love that someone finally made a good game with combat like Legend of Dragoon.

>>3889732
i haven't played a new jrpg since persona 5 and i probably will continue to not play new jrpgs
there are hundreds of jrpgs on ps1 and ps2 that i've never played, i'm good

>>3889732
Why does everyone act like this game somehow outsold every JRPG in existence and thus every other JRPG should mimic it? Yes, it was a success and did great, but it sold about on par with other popular JRPGs. "Expedition 33 proves that it's the anime graphics and tropes that people dislike!" would be a sensible argument if it wasn't for the fact that Persona 5 has sold 4 million copies more than Expedition 33.

>>3889828
>>3889832
You're retarded if you think these things DON'T influence corpos and their investors. Brown n bloom was a meme for a reason. Retard.
>B-But the argument was about muh nippon fouded steeru
Don't care.

>>3889890
Which corporations do you think will do this specifically? Name them.

>>3889893
From software's miyamoto will be like "HOOOORY SHITTO, EXPEDITION 33 WIN GAMU OF THA YEA???"

>>3889893
Shit Enix, for one, and Crapcom especially. Feel free to cope.

>>3889896
Huh, I got the impression that /vrpg/ totally doesn't care about them anymore anyways BAKA

>>3889889
It's mostly because people are surprised at how quickly this movie gaem blew up and don't care about the sales of old news like P5. Also I'm actually surprised P5's sold that much despite being 1 year shy from 10 years old.

>>3889894
Souls games already sell more than Expedition 33. Elden Ring has sold 5 times more than Expedition 33.

>>3889896
People have been saying "Square will make FF turn-based again!" every time a successful turn-based RPG comes out. People said it after Baldur's Gate 3, they said it after Persona 5, they say it every time a new Pokemon game comes out. It's a cope based on the idea that making FF an action game was a financial decision and not a result of office politics
Capcom isn't a regular JRPG developer, and they don't really try to copy other games, they just make the same games over and over. Also, their games frequently outsell Expedition 33.

>>3889902
The original version of Dragon Quest 11 also sold 5 millions by itself, equating Expedition 33. With the S updated version it sold even more but obviously that's not a fair comparison. And that's an IP that's traditionally done poorly outside Japan.
I'm not saying Expedition 33 is bad or anything, but the discourse around it is stupid. Expedition 33's sales are on par with other successful JRPGs, so the idea that other JRPGs will decide to copy it isn't grounded in reality. What's more surprising is that the game was successful on a (relatively) low budget, but it's not like the game LOOKS cheap; it's just that the developers were highly efficient at using their budget. That has nothing to do with how the game looks or plays, and it's not something other devs can easily copy.

>>3889896
>Shit Enix, for one, and Crapcom especially. Feel free to cope.

Square Enix makes action games, they don't give a shit.
Capcom doesn't even make RPGs beyond Monster Hunter Stories and don't give a shit.
Japan does not give a single fuck about E33. Most people don't, not just japs. It got journo buzz and sold decently for a AA game, that's it. If EA owned the studio they would've shut it down and put them on Call of Duty support because it didn't earn enough money.

A game like Baldur's Gate 3 has a 100x higher change of influencing shit than E33. In a year no one will even remember the game.
Like what even is there to "copy" here? The horribly generic aesthetic? The shitty family melodrama? The inferior combat system? What? What is there to look at where someone might go "damn, we really need to copy that"?

>a game that ripped off popular games
>supposed to inspire others
ripping off dark souls and persona, can't wait to rip off a game like that

You people do realize that most of the people baiting about this game don't care about it, right? It's all pretense to make fun of the VGAs, which nobody values. Though there might be some retards joining in who don't get the joke.

>>3889732
that game is so ugly i hate modern games so much

i'm playing the 1.0 version because none of the skills are nerfed. Will I be breaking damage cap pretty much no matter what I use or are there certain OP combos that blow everything up? I want to use Maelle

>>3889732
Mario & Luigi have been doing that for way longer

>>3889737
especially if you ask how E33 is apparently "red pilled" you get no response

>>3890296
Maelle.

>>3890306
Having a wife who drinks while pregnant isn't red-pilled.

>>3890332
It's red wine pilled

Won't be surprised if Square will hire this fucks to make the next FF.

>>3890767
FF8 Remake, wasn't one of the guys a fan?

>>3890767
>Won't be surprised if Square will hire this fucks to make the next FF.

You should since japs don't care about this clownshow. Only ones that did were some euros and burgers that barely play games. SE wants to turn FF into an action series too, in case you failed to notice.

>parryslop
it's still a step above rollslop

>>3889745
>getting cucked by the French
Quite literally impossible. The only nation France can cuck is itself. Good thing Canada exists, otherwise France would be even more embarrassing. Oh, wait...Lol.

Expedition 33 dick suckers will constantly proclaim that they're 'real' JRPG fans, whilst simultaneously going out of their way to shit on JRPG/anime tropes, and call everyone who enjoys them retarded weebs.
It really is just Hollow Knight all over again. Actually, this might be even worse than Hollow Knight. At least HKs rising popularity seemed semi-natrual. Clair Obscure's sudden blowout success feels cartoonishly manufactured. We're reaching FFVII trilogy levels of shilling with this game.

>>3889732
No, and I'm glad more people are bringing this up. I put 5 hours into this thing hoping to like it, but the souls-like combat killed it for me. What kind of braindead, rotted out zoomer faggot like this shit?

>>3890901
>ones that did were some euros and burgers that barely play games
That's have always been FF audiency.

>>3889732
>>3889893
>>3889896
>>3889894
E33 sales: around 5 million
DMCV: 10 million
Elden Ring, Skyrim, Cyberpunk, Witcher: each is over 30 million sales
You can't justify keeping Final Fantasy turn based with it's production values being what they are when turn based games just don't sell. E33 doesn't change anything in this equation, but Baldur's Gate 3 does. But with that game you could make the argument that the turn based combat is not a factor in its success and Squenix should instead be copying gay bear sex with branching dialogue choices.

>>3891172
Almost nobody I know had even heard about E33. It's similar to how only a fringe group of people actually played Disco Elysium yet it was shilled nonstop.

>>3891493
>Squenix should instead be copying gay bear sex with branching dialogue choices.
Pretty much. That, and high production values, and viral marketing.
BG3 sucked, but it was very popular and successful. I wouldn't attribute its success to being turn-based, but it does provide a clear counter-example to refute the argument that "turn-based games won't/can't sell"

>>3891493
>E33 sales: around 5 million
>DMCV: 10 million
>Elden Ring, Skyrim, Cyberpunk, Witcher: each is over 30 million sales
An interesting note is that these big sellers are from established franchises and developers.

>when turn based games just don't sell.
Dark Souls 1 had sold 2.3 million in 2013. Can you imagine saying "these souls games just don't sell"

The japanese games have been irrelevant for decades now
They are either for children or nostalgia fags and tend to have bad writing and ps3 tier graphics and are technically behind the west as a rule.
Outside of kojima who even does visually impressive games?

japanese games that copy e33 for combat but not other things will be exactly as irrelevant as one that has action combat unless they do something with narrative and technical competency

>>3889732
If it makes them go back to being turn based, I'll take it

>>3889828
>because they prioritize the japanese market first
No they don't

>loses its GOTY award bcuz AI-slop
lol, lmao even

>>3889732
No. I hate normies for latching onto anything popular.

>>3889889
>Persona 5 has sold 4 million copies more than Expedition 33.
No shit, it's been out for almost 10 years. Expedition 33s sold 6 million copies so far. Persona 5 sold 3.2 million copies by 2019. If this keeps up it will easily outsell Persona 5 by the 10 year mark.