How do they compare?
Haven't played either. :)
no anime no buy
Watching and discussing the VGAs is probably the saddest thing that newfags do.
>>3890775E33 is better because it's fairly priced. MR is unplayable due to its inflated pricetag.
>>3890869>50 bucks is reasonable pricingNo thanks, I don't like the ugly modern ultra-realistic graphics. That alone should lower the price to 20.
>>3890775I think they're both really good with their own upsides, my personal preference is metaphor because press turns are cool and and a much better proper RPG combat mechanic than qtes mid combat. I like E33 though as well, felt more consistent in quality. Metaphor may have higher highs though, but also lower lows.Louis clears all though, gigachad
>>3890775One is good and distinct (Metaphor), the other is mid and generic (E33).
>>3890920Yes, several times in fact, but I refuse to give the forces of evil that corrupt the world the pleasure.
>>3890775First one good, second one bad. First one pretty, second one ugly. First one, alongside SMTV:V, rekindled the dwindling love non-tourists had for the genre, second one made tourists feel entitled to disrespect everything the French "indie" devs based (albeit superficially) themselves on. First one made clever homages and references to irl painters and the history of art, second one was clearly made by people who have a pinterest/dark-academia/tumblr/deviantart understanding of the plastic arts. First one can be properly criticized without a legion of retards (or that one annoying guy, if that other anon is right) coming for your neck, second one is backed by the mossad bot army. First one doesn't have constant insufferable millennial writing, second one does. First one underrated, second one probably the most overrated game of the last 15 years. First one is a game, second one is more of a caricature of a game.That being said, I don't HATE E33 as much as many here, especially because it isn't the woke disaster the fanbase would make you think it is, Maelle's ecchi skins made plebbit shit itself, that alone warrants my respect for the dev team. It should be way cheaper tho.>>3890932Stay strong anon.
>>3890932megabased, live to spite those fucks, anon
>>3890775One is a JRPG, the other is a game for people that don't like JRPGs. The kind that wouldn't play a game if it had a stylized aesthetic and would never play something like Strange Journey for no better reason than "it looks like it's for kids".
>>3890775BG3 won last year though. I haven´t played Metaphor, nor intend to, just knowing it´s from the persona devs is enough for me to skip it.
>>3891071People generally don't mind art styles, e.g. Western cartoons like Simpsons and South Park basically look like dogshit but are immensely popular due to the witty writing. Whereas shonen anime is the same 5 tropes over and over and characters talk like the audience is complete retards, overexplaining every single thing that's happening. If E33 was anime it would probably go like:Lune: Wait, is that...Maelle: Everyone, stand back!(P) Renoir: Hohoho, you fell into my trap, silly expeditioners! There's no going back now.Gustave: You will never win because we have friends and believe in each other!Sciel: Yeah! You tell him Gustave, stand down old man.They continue with this back and forth for 5 more minutes, then you fight Renoir and he runs away to appear again and run away again, literally nothing happens in the first 30 hours.I actually like the anime art style, but it's more often than not a marker of some truly dogshit writing, hence many people automatically skipping anything anime.
>>3891091Is this ironic? You literally described how the game is.
>>3891081>BG3 won last year thoughHe said “best”Not “the critically acclaimed Game of the Year (tm)”BG3 was the latter, but also a shit game
>>3890828Maybe the saddest thing they did -that day-.
>>3891100It is ironic if you can't tell the difference.Renoir doesn't talk at all, he just kills all your friends in the prologue then the MC at the end of act 1. Doesn't elaborate.
>>3891104>your friendsWhose friends? I don't associate with frenchmen
>>3890874I don't know what kind of third world shithole you live in, but it's 35 bucks where I live.
>>3891081Anon, BG3 is 2023. It did win an award at the 2024 and 2025 awards ceremony, but not for best RPG. It won best Community Support in those two years.
>>3891122NTA but I see it on sale for 40, down from 50. Where do you live? Am assuming you don’t live somewhere using (((federal reserve notes))
>>3891102I wouldn´t say it was a shit game but it was certainly not all that great. The plot is weak and unfocused taking detours in spite of the premise being urgent and demanding celerity, the builds and mechanics are too simplified (presumably to reach a more casual general audience), the romances are too agressive, the world seems like disjointed areas put together, the antagonists are fairly uninteresting too... The saving points for me are presentation, the game is beautiful, that the companions are alright (by contemporary standards) and that the game is pretty reactive to players trying stuff out to solve situations. I would say it´s a 7.5 or soft 8. It may not be the 10/10 game it was painted out to be but it´s hardly shit.
>>3891267>Whoa my dude, did you just slander the critically-acclaimed game of the year (tm) from Brand?Yes, I did. It was a shit game and only tasteless retards jerk it off. Easily the most disappointing and over-hyped game I've played in many years.
>>3891271Not what he meant anon. OP really was talking about the VGA best rpg award. But yeah BG3 is shit.
>>3891274>VGA best rpg award?????????
>>3891271>>3891274Wtf BG3 was 2023 I got swept up in the retardation LOL
>>3890775both shit
>>3890775two flavors of extremely mediocre, but with shill campaigns (E33's campaign obviously a lot bigger)>>3890828Some of them might have actually paid money to a streamer, so it's not the absolute bottom
>>3891091I think you're ignoring the large amount of artistry in the Simpsons
>>3891091If E33 had the artstyle at >>3891071 it would not have got the level of attention it got from journos and normaltards.
>>3891091>Whereas shonen anime is the same 5 tropes over and over and characters talk like the audience is complete retardsThey are complete retards, anon.
>>3890775>Best RPG 2024Thats rebirth, not metaflop
>>3890775E33 is better in every way: gameplay, story, characters, art style. Metaphor is total trash that people only glazed because of the anti-racism message (which has the depth of a kiddie pool). I dropped it after 40 hours because it was so damn boring.
>>3891091>People generally don't mind art stylesI hate atlus games simply because they are anime.>Simpsons>South ParkI'm not American and I don't get the appeal.I'm more into Spongebobs if for western cartoons.
>>3890775>MetaphorLike all Persona games it outstays its welcome by about the 60-70 hour mark but I enjoyed it up until then. I enjoyed it more than Persona games just for the Fantasy world.>Expedition 33Amazing soulful game that is clearly a passion project by people who love video games and want to make enjoyable games. The seething over it is delicious.
>>3891780>art styleI can let most of what you said slide, but even suggesting that E33 has better aesthetic and art direction than anything, let alone Metaphor, is the most retarded things anyone on this board has ever said. E33 has the most soulless and generic art design and aesthetic to the point it rivals asset flips. We're talking you'd have to be brain damaged and delusional to think E33 is good art wise.
>>3892147>I can let most of what you said slideYou can let gameplay slide? Metaphor must be complete garbage then, because I don't see how it can be worse than a game where devs have to add a damage limit option in a patch after giving up on even trying to balance the game so that you aren't 1 shotting everything
>>3890775SMT Vengeance is the best RPG of 2024. It's also better than E33 in every way.
i hate dunkey
>>3890775Ford Tempo vs. Lamborghini Diablo
>>3892267It was a pretty good game. Still like Nocturne more. I don't think it's better then E33 in every way though. They both have pros and cons.
>>38907752025 mogs
>>3890775E33 is actually kind of decent, fun parry mechanic and decent story ruined by the third actMetaphor is just another Personaclone that's kind of incoherent
>>3892178>You can let gameplay slide?I can let it slide because ultimately it could come down to you having a pet peeve and involves more personal bias. Novel concept, I know, giving you the benefit of the doubt. I doubt most people do.
>>3892575Really? I thought the Act III should have been Act I. But I'll forgive them, if they make a true series out of it by immediately following up with "the writers". When everything is a mystery that doesn't have an answer, it's not compelling.
>JRPG: Japan Vs JRPG: IndiaThey are both shit.
>>3890775Irrelevant garbage both
>>3892614I feel the opposite. If it were up to me, I'd never have revealed the mystery or given you the real Alicia's perspective, have Real Renoir never break Curator character (but still show Verso the real Aline dying). The mystery is the only thing keeping E33 interesting when you know the truth the whole world falls apart.
>>3892693>but still show Verso the real Aline dyingShe doesn't die though?
One is medieval persona with retarded plot and story and the other is an astroturfed JRPG-larper with realism and parry mechanics to appeal to the ironic weeb + soulslike bandwagon along with that indie studio larping to make it a compelling underdog in the eyes of the masses. Both are pretty overrated but hailed as 10/10 masterpieces because the competition is that bad.
>>3892147Sorry man, but Metaphor is just ugly. I don't care if E33 uses stock assets because it's not revolting to the eye like Metaphor is.
>>3890775Atlus games are crap and boring and poorly paced snoozefest. they are all style but zero substance.OST is worse in metaphor compared to P5 which was mid as well.E33 is better, better visuals, better pacing, story and more interesting gameplay.
Well one of them was made by AI and the other wasn't, so Metaphor is better clearly.
