I just unlocked this little nigga. Is she good?
>>3899317Does this pick up later on? I played the demo and wasn't sold, all the protagonists were bland and all the villains were retarded caricatures (even compared to 1 and 2). I've seen a lot of people sucking it off saying the writing is better than 1 and 2, but it didn't match my experience of the demo and I'm suspicious I'm being misled by brainwashed mobilefag shiteaters.
>I AM VIATORThat you are, King.
>octopath traveler>triangle strategy >unicorn overlordWtf ate these titles Do Japanese just not want to make money?
>>3899317Easiest Mage to get 99,999 damage with and has stronger SP regen than Alexia. He's like an alternative to her who exchanges weakness discovery for buff support. He's no Temenos though, but him and Alexia mogs the shit out of Cyrus and Xerc.
>>3899319>and all the villains were retarded caricaturesKeep going
>>3899317Why people keep posting his cotc art instead the ot0 one?
>>3899361Better question why do people think he’s a girl
>>3899365Both jp and eng voices are women, so the confusion is kinda understandable. Not many people know he is based on Hirohito's male cat.
>>3899348all three of those games sold fairly well for their niche. The weird titles have the effect of being more distinct.
>>3899423>>3899348The real one you missed is DioField Chronicle, a game that sold so poorly it still hasn't past SE's threshold of returns for removing Denuvo three years later. Unicorn Overlord sounds like it should be a midboss.
>>3899319>saying the writing is better than 1 and 2and they're massive liars, lmfao. this game's writing is actively offensively bad this time, instead of just being simple and bland like normal
>>3899449wait until the remove all alaune dialogue mod comes out
>>3899317SEX WITH ISLA
>>3899359Shan't, I think>>3899449That was my suspicion, thanks
I’m still say they nerfed my goat Tressa.
>>3899526They overcompensated. Made Cyrus and Olberic pretty good and fucked over all the powerful characters in 1 outside of H'aanit. I still find use for Tressa though, honestly prefer her to Ludo outside of Negotiation and Polearm breaking since she's more specialized in buffing your DPS and grabbing stuff from bosses. Her ult would've been good if you can hit 5 times with a selected weapon though since they wanted to imitate Hired Help.
So I know this game comes from a mobile game but I saw an small part of the beginning of the mobile game and seemingly choosing any of the Masters start their own self contained protag.My question is, does those protags show up as party members?Is Stia a 0 addition?Btw are there plans to port stuff like crossover characters or whatever post this game launch characters?
>>3899348>bravely default>various daylife
>>3899572Stia, all of the Wishvale characters, aswell as every party member except for the OT1 cast and CoTC-plot relevant characters are new and were added with Octopath 0. I don't know about any future updates or content but I kinda doubt it. The self contained protags do not generally join your party in those stories, but they will assist in story relevant battles sometimes.
sex with bargello
>>3900638Tatrocha...
I can't believe they paired up the only two black characters together
So which job ended up being the best on MC in the end outside of starting with Merchant?
>>3900682Hunter with Arrow of Fortune, Mystic Shot and Borrow BP.
>>3900683Shit that's what I'm running lmao. Dancer could've been interesting but they threw a lot of buffers at you later in the game.
>>3899317I liked Octopath 2, is this really worth playing or just phoneslop?
>>3900683wtf why are you literally me... i have vivify and donate bp as actives instead of arrow of fortune though. i should probably get back to using that considering how hard it is to actually get jp in this game. does anyone else use ha'anit as their backrow bp battery/arrowstorm user?
>>3900913I don't use H'aanit at all.
Isn't the game a bit overpriced?
>>3901793yeah lol
>>3901793It should've been like $30-40.I mean sure the upgrades to many boss sprites, environments, and new tunes are nice, but it's still effectively CotC: Console Version + extras.OT2 was and still is the better overall game.
These threads had more sovl when the schizos were around
>>3901827>OT2 was and still is the better overall game....+1hopefully octo 3 leans towards trying to be more of the same to 2 than 0.
>>3901856This isn’t Reddit lil bro
>>3901856it will, most likely. i can't imagine they would just regress the series like this, although i can imagine they might keep an idea or two of the 0 gameplay for the rest of the series>>3901863you say, while speaking like a tiktoker
>>3901828Nah. Schizos should off themselves.
>>3899576No I mean for example when this player chose Wealth, pic was the protag.What I'm asking is if this girl is in 0 as a playable party members or story characters or if they were not included.
>>3901926I miss that nigga that went around editing Ochette pics, he’s funny>>3902244Only the story relevant characters made it into 0. That one didn’t
>>3901793Seems appropriately priced. Many 30$/40$ games don't offer as much content as this does. I am willing to pay 50$ if it means SE makes real games out of their gachas.>>3902275Thats a shame. Wonder why since they have bios meaning that they had a place in this world that could have been used.
cotc has a lot of charactes, but, not so much art, wonder if the unused ones will show up in a octopath 3 ?kinda wish ALL the characters and villians had more art, but with so many, i guess it is a wait and see thing.https://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-42/otcotc-sofia.html
>>3902596>Thats a shame. Wonder why since they have bios meaning that they had a place in this world that could have been used.They're the launch 5*s and their own small story quests to boot.If the OT1 cast wasn't shoehorned in, the CotC 8 could've been utilized instead. All of them especially my man Gilderoy was done dirty with OT0.
>>3902749The gachas characters aren't the faces of the game: the villains are considering OCTOPATH.Much like the main 8 in both console games, you barely ever see any art of the NPCs in comparison.
I want to like this game really bad but right now I'm miserable. I enjoyed 1 quite a bit and had fun playing a bit of CotC back when it first dropped, so it took me by surprise how little I'm enjoying myself. Combat and exploration are fine, but my main problem is that I hate the story. I only finished Master of Power and now I'm really hesitant to keep going. It all feels pointlessly, overly dark. It feels like I'll be able to accurately predict what will happen next just by asking "what's the worst possible thing that could happen?" I'm also disappointed the majority of mobile characters were cut, I was hoping to use Fiore in a real game because she is cute. The only character I have now I particularly like is Tressa (who I'm not sure counts since she's not a new character), and I like Macy from a gameplay perspective. I see that that mod project to add in the mobile stuff is coming along quickly, but sadly I bought the game on console.I thought I heard the game gets better after Master of All, but that feels way too far away...
>>3902771>but my main problem is that I hate the story.as mentioned in >>3902755>55>: the villains are considering OCTOPATH....so i find it helps with the 'story / direction' to be the same class as the villian your chasing down.started as warrior cause thats how daddy raised me... went straight to Power, and yeah, it is a slug through....Stia cute, your Fiore, she great cute too...
>>3902779The Cuckquean of Wishvale...
>>3902771>I heard the game gets better after Master of AllEither the writing takes a nosedive or it becomes one the better jrpgs. It's either one or the other.Gameplay "could" get better, but RIGHT AFTER completing MoA, you finally gain access to Surpassing Power. And you know what that means with your damage output.
>>3902771MARVELOUS and Pardis III carry the antagonist side of the game. None of the others compare.
>>3902779>so i find it helps with the 'story / direction' to be the same class as the villian your chasing down.>OT0 apothecary MC that late into the gameYou're just torturing yourself at this rate.
>>3902771I’m 75 hours into this game around 88% through the story and I don’t feel like the game gets better especially writing wise. It’s such a drag that I’ve been skipping some cutscenes, I already played cotc to the end so I know what happens but that’s still a bad sign. I’ve been dissapointed about the absence of cotc characters before the game even released since the producer revealed they won’t be in this game, pointed it out several times how it’s such a missed opportunity and they should be in. It feels vindicating seeing others here start to feel the same, oh well, at least the mod for adding them in is going along at a quick pace
You are all imbeciles.
>>3902804> It feels vindicating seeing others here start to feel the same...you are completely vindy.who thought the oct1 cahr needed to be in ?would absolutely have loved if this game stood on its own char.Fuck, now i want a Fiore !!!!
>>3902809>who thought the oct1 cahr needed to be in ?The director, apparently.
>>3902782Cucking Stia with Isla
>>3902809>who thought the oct1 cahr needed to be inHe is the director cat
>>3902809It’s even stupider because the producer said that recruiting the ot1 characters makes your playthough non-canon. Motherfucker you don’t care about canon in the first place, just say you wanted them in the game so that people have more of a reason to play the game. And yes, I want sofia and fiore in my octopath 0, especially their ex jobs
>gachacucks getting rowdy againFuck off to /vgm/
>>3902818Anon finally learns OT0 is not canon lol.Remember: it's a big Cross Story, and its likely to be denied in the current arc.
>>3902820It is canon just not the ot1 characters.>>3902816He meant ot1 characters. Isla wasn’t in OT1.
I'm thinking of replaying 2 with new dawn mod, thoughts?
>>3902818>just say you wanted them in the game so that people have more of a reason to play the game...- turns out to be one of the negatives of the game.- lul, is the director a fucking boomer ?always the wrong zig to the zag with these fuckers.
>>3902819Nah. I'd stay.
>>3902899>99new dawn mod okay, wut it do ?just a difficulty thing.octo neeeds to steal [new game +] from tristag ?
>>3899425Was DioField any good?
>>3902927>okay, wut it do ?items rebalance, skill rebalance, etcand yes the enemies stats also have been uppedthere's also shadow hold mod but idk
>>3902771The average writing quality is much better than what you've seen only doing Master of Power.Master of Power is just egregiously bad. Ch2 was so contrived I turned the game off immediately after completing it.There are a couple other really dumb parts in the writing but they're more "yell at your TV because the characters are being dumb" bad and not "Immediately stop playing the game" bad
I'm playing Octopath Traveler and am disappointed by how little interaction the various characters get with each other. Is 2 better about this?
still gives me chuckles
>>3903222Reddit tier humor
>>3903189They're very talkative in battle.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5mi_GuXPzcBanters are still locked to post-chapter 2 (post-chapter 3 for Osvald; you'll see why) but they're all saved in the journal so you can watch/read them whenever after your clear parts of the chapters.Crossed Paths (2 mini chapters for a pair of characters) that foreshadow the actual final final chapter.And then the final final chapter... which isn't really really that long but at least there's a sense of cohesion and closure to the story leading to the credits and the, effectively, victory lap epilogue.
>>3899319>all the villains were retarded caricaturesI love that the most.I'm tired of games having the antagonists being le morally grey deep with valid reasons for their actions.I was almost dreading Bargello and co to go on a poor Herminia segment after the old man explains her background but luckily Herminia does something evil on the dungeon so she is still hated.
>>3903245operative word being retarded, I'm fine with them being unambiguous monsters but they should have coherent motivations beyond "I am....le evil!!"
You breed are truly retard. Kill yourselves.
>>3903246>but they should have coherent motivations beyond "I am....le evil!!"Nope.
>>3902753That's a shame.I imagine this was done because they want a reason for people to still play the gacha?
>>3903433Ummm....yes?The "game that gacha and non-gacha players can experience and enjoy" stuff is something the director remarked over and over in all the interviews.
>>3903248>>3902807My nigga Pardis deserved better
>>3903474>lame as fuck design>lame as fuck personality>zero legitimate motivations as a character, is purely a plot device so comically evil you can't imagine doing anything besides beating himyawn. also you're filipino, osvaldfag, you can't say that
>>3903599This nigga is shown to be manipulative enough to hug his son-in-law in public but also casually considering to kill his own daughter in the royal court and also resorted to immediately kill the son-in-law instead of trying to first manipulate him to do his bidding, which he has already been doing by ordering him to keep fighting in so many wars. The writing is just plain awful I'd much rather they made him 100% comically evil instead of this inconsistent shit.
>>3903599>osvaldfagHoly schizo. Also Pardis is pure kino bro literally told his daughter to kill herself
Rinyuu's en voice is so fucking grating holy fuck someone please push her off the cliff once again
>If a front row character dies and it's the turn of the back row unit, the back row unit drags the lifeless body of the front row unit when it takes its place.Holy fucking soul! They could have easily just not do that and just swap them.Also watched the Francesca fight in the gacha. It's cool that in 0 they gave Francesca an attack animation. There Is a lot of care in the game.Also finished the Master of Fame Arc and I liked the twist a lot.
>>3903727>holy fuck someone please push her off the cliff once againAnon, have I got a surprise for you.>>3903731They gave attack animations for most distinct chapter bosses.
>>3903731they remove the weapon sprites tho
>>3903741>They gave attack animations for most distinct chapter bosses.Pretty sure Al the Servant did not.>>3903768From the old games or the gacha? I did notice the 1 cast for example have an stance with a weapon but didn't see that in the gacha.
>>3903911All prominent cotc char bosses have animations.
>>3903911>From the old games or the gacha?from 1, I guess it does make sense given how big the roster is
>>3903252Exdeath isn't human to begin with. Human morality never applied to trees.
Octopath 3 should stick to being a Suikoden-like.
>>3904166I'd drop the series by that point.
Old Storyteller is the unsung hero of this game
>>3904166I suppose that would depend on the focus>OT -> 8 travelers>CotC/OT0 -> 8 antagonists>OT2 -> 8 travelers and 8 antagonists>OT3 -> ????
Why the fuck is this cunt tatloch recruitable when she's just as bad as Pardis
>>3904251because she wants you to do big fat cums in her brown fertile pussy and have a dozen of your ubermensch ringbearer children, obviously
>>3904251Because there's this idea in the background of gacha gaming that Kancolle faded because it didn't make the good looking enemy faction girls playable.
>>3904251Read the jp interviews
>>3904509>enemy faction girls playable.I love this trope.Like in Tactics Ogre and recruiting that red head with the brother.Or Aversa in Awakening.Or Listell in Langrisser 4.
I want to impregnate Ochette and create half Beastling babies bros
>>3904513Which is a bullshit excuse. It’s a gacha, they wanted to milk the fanservice character. She so fanservice that she wears more clothes in her bikini outfit than she does in her regular outfit.
So I've seen wildly varied tier lists from people on this game. It's truly a fun time to be early on in a game's life cycle and get to see the mistakes and the genius picks but also the idiocy and the overlooked gems rise as people 'figure out' the game.Also it is a very hard game to tier for I'd say because so many characters are SO late that it's almost like if they're not there for 80% of the game, how do you even adjust for that on a tier list? Most RPGs tend to try to intro all their characters at least fairly early but not these ones with massive rosters.
>>3903665He feared Mahrez was looking to usurp him out of paranoia. Paranoid rulers are very common in royalty
>>3904576>I'd say because so many characters are SO late that it's almost like if they're not there for 80% of the gameTrue.I went through most of the game with mostly the same party that I formed very early on. Reconfiguring and reinvesting wasn't worth the effort when what I had worked fine.Only switch I made before the very near the end of the game was swapping in Olberic because he's how you get Surpassing Power, so you have to.As far as tier list, the only thing I'll say for sure is that Pius is top tier.His ult is indispensable. It's simply too much of a party damage increase in a single action.Viator is also an early character with an incredibly broken Ult, but long term he gets replaced since if your team is just built for damage then you don't have to deal with all the set up (needs parry stacks, needs more then lvl 1 Ult or else it doesn't last long enough, needs Provoke or Cover so the enemy actually hits him instead of just killing everyone else)He lets you beat fights you really have no business beating at low level though.
>>3904576The base kit and especially the uninheritable skills become more important than ever since it's what gives each unit their uniqueness. Most early joiners outside of Saoirse and Pius still fall off hard later though, but the fun of the game comes from meme builds and making the best use of each unit's uniqueness imo.>>3904607They were clearly rushing to kill him off and it just made both Pardis and Mahrez less interesting as characters imo.They didn't make me care much for Mahrez. I wished he actually saw through Masushi's ploy and fought with you to protect Pardis as a helper so you can grow to care for him bc he's a capable and helpful character, and also showing that he's smart. Before that someone (working for Pardis to see if they can manipulate Mahrez) can also remark that if Pardis dies he can become King or sth and it's better but he still stayed loyal and saved Pardis from the sneak attack only to get betrayed by him or sth. Mahrez's strong morals proved to Pardis that he cannot corrupt this righteous future ruler and therefore the king decided to just kill Mahrez instead bc he couldn't control him.
>>3904576Yea Olberic for example people love to say he's only worth it for Surpassing Power, but at the same time he's the only dps character that doesn't have to sacrifice his skill slot for it and is pretty versatile as a result (he can equip patience for example).
>>3904660It doesn't matter when Reime exists. Multi-hits become king which is why Isla falls off at the very late game.
>>3904569You can even recruit a grieving dude that had lost his wife and child during her invasion for god's sake. Showing all the pain and suffering her actions caused to the citizens of Orsterra while later turning around and acting like she's redeemable is just bullshit, but I guess this is what I should expect from a gachaslop story since they still have to sell her tits to the paying audience after all.
>>3904669Which is why you give Thousand Spears to Olberic
>Strange House???Does this do something? or did they really hide an alternate design for a normal house behind a special item from an inquire collection point from talking to an animal in the optional end game town?
>>3904746You can put the doohickey from the final thingamajig into it at the end of the game
>>3904569Base game barely have "fanservice" characters, so your argument is kinda pointless. But that's expected from retards who personality revolve in hating "le gachaslop xD" but need to express their opinion fron a game they don't even play. Twiter behavior.
A reminder all of your opinions are trash and you should kill yourselves.
>>3904658>I wished he actually saw through Masushi's ploy and fought with you to protect Pardis as a helper so you can grow to care for him bc he's a capable and helpful character, and also showing that he's smart.i have this same issue with the story. they were too eager to kill both him and elrica off for the shock factor, completely ignoring any potential/existing character arcs either of these characters could bring to the game. like why the fuck did they have to sub in alaune to fill that role? her speeches feel wholly unearned, in comparison to if it came from the ruler that ACTUALLY fought to change things
>>3904658Can agree about Mahrez's killing being too early. Had they showed Pardis wanted to kill his daughters because he wanted an male heir first, then his death would serve to prove the heir thing was bullshit, as Mahrez was like a son to Pardis and look how he was treated. Would earn more sunovabiches points because that would reinforce the point of he don't giving a shit about anyone but himself. In that sense, Ulrica's flashback came too late.
>>3904771>>3904776It just felt like Elrica and Mahrez existed to show you how fucked up the villain is which is similar to saying water is wet, especially when the town of Cragspear is already fucked up as hell. From the moment you entered the town, no NPC had any favourable remark for Elrica and Mahrez either, so even the scene where the beggar girl tried to give Elrica flowers on her wedding just felt like a cheap way to instantly establish Elrica as a kind person instead of actually characterizing her through the worldbuilding itself. A lot of writing decisions in 0 felt very amateurish compared to 1 and 2 which makes it feel even worse for me because the stories felt even more like generic JRPG stories compared to the first 2 games. Seems like they're always trying to one-up the previous arc's villain by creating more villainous scenarios bordering on tragedy porn, and the writers only care about inserting "shocking" twists instead of ensuring a cohesive narrative that actually makes sense. The whole Auguste/Schwartz thing was basically the embodiment of this. Yeah it's a shocking twist but how does it change what happened in the prologue, chapter 1, and chapter 2 of MoF? Does it even make logical sense? I heavily disagree with anyone saying 0 has better writing/structure than 1 and 2. Octopath never had outstanding writing, the writers have always excelled more at theming and overall vision instead of the intricacies in execution. Primrose's story is like the quintessential Octopath storytelling style imo, which I personally enjoy even with all its flaws. However, these games have always had engaging protagonists, not villains, and 0 being focused on the villains is to its detriment imo. Herminia and Auguste (until the twist) were the only good villains in this game imo.
>>3904780>Seems like they're always trying to one-up the previous arc's villain by creating more villainous scenarios bordering on tragedy porn, and the writers only care about inserting "shocking" twists instead of ensuring a cohesive narrative that actually makes sense.probably because that's the case, lol. i have zero clue why people aren't shitting on this game more, and some are even PRAISING this story for it's emotional depth. just scrolling through the comments on any discussion of the game's story makes it make total sense that there's a large plurality of people that rely on AI in their day-to-day
>>3904783I don't know how much of this is just people missing Octopath, but 2 was released just 2 years ago so I mean, I'm not missing it much yet lol.It also baffles me how much praise I see for this game's story. Perhaps JRPG fans just prefer generic JRPG stories then, which is a shame because the whole charm of Octopath for me is having 8 interesting protagonists with unique stories that make you care, and 1 also had the added element of having an interesting and mysterious world (I didn't feel this in 2 personally). The world and characters in 0 are of little interest and made little sense to me, despite being much more "diverse".
>>3904798>The world and characters in 0 are of little interest and made little sense to me, despite being much more "diverse".The focus is on the villains because HTAPOTCO and they didn't do a good job at those.
>>3904620>As far as tier list, the only thing I'll say for sure is that Pius is top tier.>His ult is indispensable. It's simply too much of a party damage increase in a single action.Delitia has the same ultimate effect as Pius, so that kind of devalues him if you already use Delitia.And as far as I can tell, Delitia is a good character. Pius has low innate SP for a caster. And basically I don't see how you could run a party with more than 1 cleric so it's basically a choice between Pius, Laurana and Ophilia. I've seen a lot of people saying Laurana is total trash and a lot saying she is S tier. Really puzzling. To me her standard skills look really lackluster compared to Pius since too many are physical for a cleric. But that whole row regen and revive Ultimate are tempting for potentially surviving superbosses (though I have not gotten to them yet).
>>3904975You can farm nuts in endgame which makes Pius low mp not really matter, you can also just give him mp-boosting equipment. Clerics are honestly not that useful since with Pius ult you can just kill bosses in 1 to 3 turns. Delitia's ult is great if you only use phys-based team, but I think most endgame party would include both phys and mag dps anyway and with Pius you can just boost all of them.
>>3905019>You can farm nutsBased bofa farmer.
>This conversation
>>3904975The clerics are all equivalent in my opinion, it really comes down to what you prioritize. Pius has his debuff and innate party heal, Laurana can give linewide autolife and Ophilia has innate full party revive and can give you phys dodge with ultimate. The real question is why anyone would use an apothecary besides Alfyn.
>>3904783I’ve seen people praise the game and they’re still in MoA or nowhere near done with the game. It could be that they are still in the honeymoon phase and the game’s flaws haven’t set in yet for them, or they must have low standards and are just stupid. I’ve just gotten the true ending of this game and I can say it doesn’t make sense at all, this was the least enjoyable octopath game for me and I’m hoping octopath 3 returns to the formula of 2 and improves on it a bit
>>3904975Pius gives universal tier-2 buffs and debuffs and bosses in this game don't have enough bulk to survive any team that's even remotely built up proper so he's the most efficient unit that also comes super early, you can literally get him as part of your first 7 allies as long as you have already recruited Celsus. Richard comes late and needs a Wishvale shop exclusive passive to reach tier-2 on his buffs (though it is a common item and not rare), while Ultimate Support, Stalwart Stance, and Invigorate and Inspire are all earlygame free masteries you get from playing the game normally. If the game wasn't so piss easy Richard is definitely better than Pius as he's more suitable for longer fights where you want to maintain buffs, debuffs, and keep recharging ults. I don't even think a magic DPS is necessary when you can just ult Reime and use Thousand Spears Olberic they deal way more damage without convoluted setups compared to Xerc and Cyrus. Alexia and Isla require less setup at the cost of no multi-hit and honestly that just makes them better Scholars for me.There are a lot of poor balancing decisions made in this game that makes a lot of characters with cool gimmicks pretty worthless in the end. Pius and Saoirse are amongst those balancing mistakes imo.
What am I supposed to do in-between chapters of Octopath 1? I beat the first chapters for each character easily but I'm trying to do Cyrus' chapter 2 and getting my ass kicked by by regular random encounters.
>>3904780>TFW Auguste was only a good character after the twist and only a good villain before the twist.Why was he the only one seemingly being manipulated by the ring demon, where he talks almost like he has a split personality at the end where he was going to let you go but the demon has other plans, whereas Herm and Tytos give no break in their evil character to the end?Also I've gotta wonder, do people who dislike the 3 Masters not get hype for good ol FFT-style villains were demon possessed plotlines? Or do they just think FFT did it much better?
>>3905047>The real question is why anyone would use an apothecaryFixed that IMO. I guess to cure status effects but bosses tend to slather the status effects on like butter by the rowload so I don't see the merit in wasting turns removing them rather than just swapping rows and waiting for them to wear off
>>3905153Because Alfyn can fill your entire party's BP ever other turn.
>>3905144This is gonna be a surprise to you but Those people aren't demon possessedThe rings contain the spirits of the actual patron deities. The wearer of the ring being evil is corrupting the ring and turning it red, not the other way around.In hindsight this should probably be obvious to you because your character also has a ring and isn't possessed by any "ring demon"as far as future info that corroborates this [actual spoilers ahead of where you are] Pardis III's plan is explicitly to get the MC to fall into despair to corrupt the Flamebearer's ring so he can take it, as he can't touch it otherwise, and much later Finis straight tells you the rings contain the spirits of the gods
>>3904817The villains are shit though, doubly so in 0. In normal Octopaths at least they make some thematic sense. The villains in 0 barely even represent the paths they're supposed to stand for, so they already fail at that basic element.>>3905144I don't think the Schwartz reveal made him a good character, and as a villain before the twist he was very campy but I think not as "realistic" as Herminia, so there was a lot of suspension of disbelief I had to make to enjoy his villainy. The fact that his plays all seem to be very psychotic and sadistic makes the regular people of Osterra look like psychopaths, and they weren't even entranced by his ring either or anything.
So what are the preferences that lead to people disliking 0? People who prefer more character focused plots over more unified plotting? People who want less villain focus and more main character study?
>>3905179Focus on the protagonist's journey vs the villain's villanyInteresting and mysterious world with hidden lore More customizable skill slots and weapon access expansion via subjobs rather than swapping out the backrow characterHidden jobs Smaller party means having 1 stinker (Osvald) out of 8 total characters feels less bad than 30 stinkers out of 35 total playable charactersConcoct, Hired Help, and Monster Capture/Summon
>>3905178Herminia/wealth should've been merchant. Tytus/power works as warrior. Auguste/fame can work loosely as thief due to all the underhanded "theft" of lives to fuel inspiration. Thieves have hp and sp theft skills as well so it isn't all about money thematically.
>>3905187No idea why Herminia was Huntress other than them wanting to give you 2 mediocre ults earlygame after giving you 2 good ults. Auguste could've been Scholar. Hell male Scholar MC literally looks like Auguste's protege.
>>3905185I doubt many would say 30 of 35 characters suck. Many of them may not be broken but they certainly can get you through the game without crazy grinding being needed due to being underpowered.
>>3905191The vast majority of characters kinda exist just to be powercrept by those that come later so
I'd play an octopath spinoff game with partitio as the mc
>>3905203this except (You) are the MC and partitio sucks your cock the entire game
I'd play an octopath spinoff game that lets me bang Ochette
So I got one of the Octo 1 characters.Are the Octo 2 here like the edgy dancer?
Ok, some hindsight on the Hell arc.Obviously the goal of reviving Orsa like Finis had thought about doing was achievedBut, if Little Finger hadn't died and become a ring replacement, what was the actual plan to make that happen?Kill you and take your ring? that shouldn't work because Sazantos already tried to grab the Flamebearer ring when you handed it in to be sealed and it rejected him, so why would it be any different a 2nd time?If Little Finger's sacrifice was always the plan, then what was the point of raising an army of the dead or waiting until you got there and confronted them to pull the trigger on their "winning" move?
>>3905245Why would they be? They’re in another world.
>>3905249Because I want a lap dance from her.Also gacha.
Honestly as bad as Velnorte and Rinyuu and the entire MoP storyline were at least they're not as boring as Agnea's first three chapters, now those were painful to get through
>>3905271You say that now, but you aren't done with dumb Rinyuu scenes yet.
>>3905271Agnea's story wasn't pants-on-head retarded and actively taking away time and development from anyone else though while also forcing you into perceiving her as a good person when she's morally questionable. She's just a well-adjusted young girl who wants to follow her dreams and doesn't have an edgy tragic backstory. She's also a strong unit unlike Velnorte who's one of the most useless combat helpers you get in the game.I'd take Agnea's story over the entirety of 0's story outside of Herminia's campy stuff to be perfectly honest.
>>3905287Oh yea I actually really like Agnea as a character and also her latter two chapters, I even think of everyone's final chapters hers is one of the best. I was just comparing her first three chapters to MoP because it wasn't as boring to me, not that I like that story arc either kek>>3905281I've been spoiled about her fate tho not the specific details, but at least I know I have something to look forward to kek
>>3905298I liked all her chapters though they're pure fun and felt more cohesive than most of Tressa's chapters. For once a festival took place and nothing bad happened lulz.
>>3905260There is no edgy dancer in 2 if you're talking about Agnea. Agnea is basically Tressa 2.0.
She's right behind me, isn't she.
>>3905246The zombie stuff was just a prank
>>3905246I also don’t understand why she didn’t just do that from the start if that was always possible? The whole thing leading up to that point just felt like filler, you could cut the first 3 chapters of BoA out of the game and the majority of chapter 6 and nothing would change
>>3905341>>3905246Reminder that it was a gacha.And gacha chapters tend forget/ignore what happens before to arbitrarily prolong the story... considering story updates could take weeks/months per release.
>>3905315bargello getting his soul sucked out through his dick (not literally this time) by a single milf in his area!
Which game has the best cast and why is it 2
>>3905557Still wish there were some ways to actually save both of ochette's pets
>>3905567Blame the writers for trying to be edgy.
>>3905569>it's edgy because I can't get a perfectly happy ending where nothing bad happens and that makes my feefees hurt!
>>3904658It seems like the characters everyone says are good are 'difficult to use' characters with obscure reasons for their quality (Saoirse and Pius) rather than massive damage hogs. It's almost like the devs knew to avoid characters who could output huge damage but didn't know niche strategies like Invig+Full Row HP regen+Ultimate regen push when in the back row would be OP.
>>3905608Saorise isn't obscure, her ult gives any character in the party auto-hit weakness regardless of their weapon/element. It is the most useful buff. The only other weapon/element invariate buffs/attacks are on Sazantos, who has shit availability and can only cast it on himself, or attached to Mastery non-elemental attacks that break 1-2 shields max at a time. Sadly Saorise's ult doesn't get spread by Sealtige's Seduction. Pius is just inertia: you get him early, he can heal everyone and has an easy to use buff/debuff.
>>3905144He wasn't manipulated by the ring.My read on Auguste is that he's basically the Hyde to Schwartz's Dr. Jekyll, but in a way that's a mix of the book and pop-culture versions: When Schwartz snapped, he created a persona to shove the thrill he got (assuming Auguste was telling the truth in how he got his big break) onto and said persona remains largely in control. He can let Schwartz "leak through" for one reason or another and his break before the fight implies that the Schwartz persona wasn't entirely an act. By contrast, Herminia just became obsessed with wealth as a result of all she had been through and Tytos wanted to dethrone the church in the sense of being a major authority.
>>3905557Ochette has the perfect dick sucking height
>>3905646I found myself rarely using that ult when every character had something that would hit a weakness most of the time. Then once the boss is broken its irrelevant
>>3905692I only used her ultimate skill a few times i my playthrough but I mainly used her as an ultimate gauge battery. Most of the time she was in the back with her passive that regenerates the ultimate gauge of the front by a bit. I also gave her the passive that filled the character’s ultimate when she buffed a stat and put front row p. Def/e. Def up buff skills on her
>>3905721Yeah that Ult charging ability seems to be her main draw due to how powerful Ults are
Why did they remove hired help and concoct?
>>3905744Because they hate fun and needed to pad out the roster with 35 characters so they had to spread and nerf all the cool stuff across multiple shitters. They also remove Aelfric Auspices / Blessing and replaced them with 20-25% passive. And they also fucked over Alephant so it's utterly fucking useless as a support skill now.
>>3905779Cope
>>39057820 isn't a horrible game, but it does feel like a budget Octopath spinoff, which is reflected in the (still too high for what it is) price tag.
>>3905779Took me a while to realize those are H'aanit and Primrose.
Rape Faramea
I noticed an error in the credits sequence.It shows each villain's splash art, then scenes from their arc, then their fight and shows off their attack animation.Except it doesn't actually show Ceraphina's fight, it shows you fighting Leblac instead.
>>3899317how good is this game if i hated the first one because i felt it was bland and generic?
How much til someone start modding stuff from Side Solistia?
How the fuck did Agnea get 2nd
>>3906182what is this
>>3906287it says in the picture what it is.
>>3899319OT2 was my fav game of the year, but I had to drop 0 a bit over halfway through. It really drags, the soundtrack isn't as good, the gameplay isn't as good, the characters are really bland.
>>3899319I played the mobile game with a few hundred hours and I just got the true ending for octopath 0 at 80 hours and no it doesn’t “get better”. The game not only drags on and on, but the writing is just weak and was so unenjoyable that I just skipped a bunch of them in the second half of the game. The gameplay didn’t feel as satisfying and fun as octopath 1 & 2, and that sense of magic and wonder wasn’t there. That was a huge factor that the mainline games had for me personally but here the game just felt like an ass pull. I’d save that $50 and wait for an octopath 3 if that formula is more your thing
People play this game for the writing? Lol.Game is worth for the sprite designs and the soundtrack. All antries are slop so far.>"but OT2"Slop, I said.
I enjoy octopath 0 so far mostly for all the non-story reasons, this game is also a proof to me to never trust anyone who says that a gacha game can actually have a good story
>>3906287A speedrun event. People were donating to see which character to do a solo speedrun and Castti won it.
>>3906305>>3906308cool, thanks
>>3905874You didn't play Primrose's scenario in the first one. This one is even more bland and generic (like "I have x thing to PROTECT!" speeches tier generic) except maybe Auguste's scenario.
>>3906515>drastic measures>poison axe>concoctConsidering the selection, she's the best at it among the girls.Ochette can't. Her final boss's gimmick is a huge issue while soloing.
>>3906893I doubt most people donating know anything about speed ruining OT2. Also lmao
>>3899348unicorn overlords biggest flaw is not coming to PC.The actual fuck were they thinking.
>>3906918>Vanillaware>PC
>>3905173I figured your ring was different since it's Aelfric and all that "you have to be pure to have this ring" stuff as opposed to the other rings. In hindsight it's kind of disappointing if it's just random humans who somehow morph into demon creatures but there's no real demons behind itGame just got more and more disappointing the further Master of All went on with all these generic Japanese SOMETHING TO PROTECT speeches. I don't understand how they can write that slop or why the translators don't adjust it to something less cringe since translators can do whatever they want in the video game localization process and don't need to be accurate. While the look of the MoA boss was alright he was a boring villain after all. Great voice though, but no writing behind him.Then for some reason they drop credits even though the game is only half over. I assume an arc of the gatcha ended there. This game is bizarre and I don't see how the reviewers aren't complaining about a lack of polish. Also reusing tons of music, even final boss music from previous games? Unacceptable.>>3905178It certainly added depth to his character that Herminia and Tytos lacked.>>3906918Vanillaware will never willingly release on PC, they are afraid of people stealing their "style" using reverse engineering (although some pc games like The Vagrant already basically did without needing any RE) and losing their 'stand out' quality that comes from being a console game rather than getting lost among the average 2D indie on Steam. They also may be insanely in fear of pirates to levels of paranoia hitherto unimagined among a dev.
>>3907240Herminia had depth she just didn't have a medical condition like Auguste. I find her thoughts and actions to be more consistent and reasonable given her backstory unlike Auguste/Schwartz. Split personality isn't very engaging if not properly explored and is often used as a cheap excuse just like irl.
>>3905557did the artist draw for the other games / characters ?>>3904243maybe the focus will be more on the regions and have a seasons mechanic ... which would be hard to implement i guess- would be nice to see leveling having a more equal effect with equipment.
>>3907356I think that's Ikushima who's basically the main official artist for Team Asano, so everything they made except BD1 (that was Yoshida) and some of BS. BD2 was her though.There are other artists for the studio - you can easily tell the differences in art styles for the end cards from OT1 and OT2 and CotC/OT0, but I think she specifically did that lineup in your post.
>>3907504The lineup wasn’t made by Ikushima. It was drawn by Tatsuaki Urushibara who also drew all the individual character ending art.
Finished Bestower of Wealth, just have Fame left before presumably Bestower of All (which is what the Finis notes are leading up to). I really came around on Oskha in the last minute. I thought him being 'le based communist guy' was a boring fucking direction to take it, but in the last minute his entire demeanor changed from mysterious edgy cool guy to throwing a literal tantrum over Bargello. Him dropping the kayfabe and revealing himself to be a petulant fucking child who's just pissed he can't get his way was genuinely endearing to a degree I hadn't expected.Definitely pushes him up over Tatloch who has nothing going for her except sex appeal (but boy does she have it). Jury's still out on the Fame chick.
>>3904166This.(You) protag with a bunch of recruitables is so kino. This was a better Suikoden than Eiyuuden Chronicles.If the gacha is still on, maybe it will be enough content for another 0 game.>>3904243Maybe it could be 8 kingdoms or factions. Though the issue would be it's would still be 8 characters to represent them.Or maybe a legacy thing like 4 characters and then 4 characters in the future.Like 4 characters solve their own country problem but it was an immediate solution so now hundred of years later the countries go to shit and it's up to these new 4 characters to fix it.
>>3905692I found a 4 hit lighting magic skill pretty early on so I had her cast her ult on Alexia then Xerc, who then could melt 8-16 shields per turn if patience/twincast procc'd.
>>3907708>Or maybe a legacy thing like 4 characters and then 4 characters in the future.I remember the marketing of OT1 and, for some reason I can't explain (likely I just wasn't paying enough attention), I thought that was what OT1 was going to be all about. You'd have 8 characters and you'd pair them up over the course their stories and play as their kids afterwards via some legacy mechanic.I think it'd work great. They could even have their cake and eat it too with the whole "8 stories converge" bit and just use a legacy to make a proper 4 character party to round out the adventure. Have their parent's ghosts join them for the finale using squads of three for a change in formula, and you're set.Granted, all of that is quite a bit of work and the original dev team still got poached by Kadokawa so who knows what's going on over there.
>>3907733>Have their parent's ghosts join them for the finale using squads of three for a change in formula, and you're set.Something like SMT IV Apocalypse Bond route did then.
>>3907757I was imagining it more in line with how OT2 did it, as illustrated. The games are, in the vast majority of circumstances, hell bent on keeping you to 4 turns per round. You can circumvent it in regular battles through abilities like Patience or Salt the Wound but even those are still chance-based, no guarantees. I definitely also see the appeal for taking the SMT4A approach, as well. Like I said, if it happens it'll likely have a new dev team so anything could reasonably go.
