resetting time: lazymaking everything not real: lazywhat else?
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>>3908382>the 3rd act ruins everythingthis is 96% of any rpg ever created by men.a more interesting topic would be rpgs enhanced by the third act, like dragon's dogma.
>>3908399>this is 96% of any rpg ever created by men.>a more interesting topic would be rpgs enhanced by the third actThisYou know, this community's tendency to focus on negativity leaves us with shitty discussions. Better to think of games that did it well, like you said.
>>3908399Yeah, most RPGs just drag on longer than they have good ideas for and it's weird that RPG devs make their games worse in a way that takes more time and money.
>>3908399>what do you mean dragons dogma had a good story? This is the most basic surface level paint by numbers babys first heros journey trash imaginable!>bro, trust me bro, the story gets good 80 hours in after the credits roll>it actually doesIm not sure how to fix it, I really liked the twist but getting to that point too far too long and there werent any hints that things were going to suddenly improve, which I guess is partially what made it so effective and unexpected. Still I appreciate the long con as much as anyone but there has to be a better way to pull it off than spending the first half of the game doing boring quests with such a boring basic story.
3rd act in dq11 is fun. end of.
>>3908441it's kind of the curse of play time expectations from back in the 90s, really. reminds me how fantasy books were judged by how thick they were. i think it was partially due to the fact that you just didn't get as many games available, no steam or digital distribution and a very limited indie scene, so you wanted the games you traveled to the mall to buy to last. there were some exceptions though, like dark sun shattered lands didn't overstay its welcome at all.
>>3908515You don't need to "fix" it. The game didn't focus on the story, but the gameplay, systemic elements and exploration. The twist is just a bonus and works because it was unexpected.
>>3908540Poorly executed and just comes across as a dick move where the protag abandons his timeline and friends when they needed him most and they just lost another friend.It actively makes the story and game less interesting, because it undermines the sacrifices made, goes for a generic happy ending over the somber one and more.It's one of the most bafflingly bad decisions ever made for an RPG, right alongside the second half of E33.
never seen a game shilled this hard before. even borderlands spam wasnt like this.
>>3908382BRAVELY.DEFAULT.
>>3908515they do start you off with your heart getting ripped from your body by a giant dragon. that's a pretty huge lead in. the thing that filters people isn't the bad story, it's the stiff progression and thinking they can just go explore like it's skyrim.the story works precisely because it's paced the way it is, from a child of ignorance to an adult of knowledge and will.
>>3908399>a more interesting topic would be rpgs enhanced by the third actNier Automata (route C)
>>3908857I agree, The Return was a self-masturbatory endeavor by Lynch that had no reason to be related to Twin Peaks.
