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i find it weird when people champion undertale/deltarune as the ultimate examples of sincerity in gaming, knowing the origins of toby's sense of humor
specially when sites like tumblr always had irony posion and even people being cynical towards anime
something tells me there could be a chance of deltarune having a cameo of dril or mega64
the real "tumblrisms" of ut/dr aren't the furry characters or the lgbt elements, more likely they're the type of humor when you consider the roots
(i'd also bring up the differences between "tumblr cringe" and "deviantart cringe" where tumblr always had overt self-awareness, self-deprecating humor and even some cultural overlaps with somethingawful while deviantart feels alien in comparison because it's weird kids not even thinking about how the outside world sees them)
(could also be because tumblr is full of millenials who also invest in politics to feel more mature than they are)

it feels like people nowadays (and maybe as a side effect of "internet brain rot" or troll's remorse) define sincerity as "anti-cringe culture", as if simply including colorfull furry characters makes your work sincere
so by this logic: david lynch's art for example can't be sincere because it doesn't have colorfull furries or poorly drawn anime characters

but i also believe toby himself might be aware of this, which explains why he'd ever want to go to japan because barely does irony exist in anything from japan
maybe he even sees pieces of irony and the likes on his western fans
but he probably doesn't entirely regret his history with tumblr if it got him into things he did like
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>>3911049
What the fuck does any of this have to do with the game? Take this inane rambling to >>>/vg/ or someplace where people care.
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>>3911049
Everyone who praises toby, UT and DR saying it is a "masterpiece" or similar buzzwords is too young to have played anything else, specially the games that inspired toby like brandish, earthbound, chrono trigger and etc
The number of big UT/DR "fans" I've seen that never played earthbound or mother 3 is staggering
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>>3911264
>Big Earthbound fan looking forward to playing it for the first time
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I like how Toby was clearly into old game rumors/mysteries, like figuring out Stop 'n' Swop/ the Ice Key in Banjo Kanzooie, or finding the Triforce in Ocarina of Time. The secrets in the games can feel like real creepypasta stuff, but they're also inspired by the old "Mew is under the truck," revive General Leo/Aeris type urban legends. I spent a lot of time reading about that stuff in the late 90s/early 2000s, and it seems he did too.

It's like he wants to put secrets in his games that feel like those crazy rumors, but actually true.
>>3911264
Nah. Toby Fox rules, Undertale and Deltarune are both great. I'm old and have played tons of old RPGs, both when they were new and on emulators later.
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>>3911049
yeah, I've seen this copypasta before

Undertale/Deltarune can never be a "sincere" game from the very fact they're genre parodies, and parodies are inherently ironic.
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>>3911271
Missingno in Pokemon too, which already felt like an insane schoolyard rumor but real. You perform a ritual, see something that shouldn't be in the game, get a reward but corrupt your game (or at least your Hall of Fame). The glitch music, things like the game hanging extra long as the battle started, sprites getting distorted. Missingno was the closest thing to a creepypasta game story being real.
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>>3911285
I think there are some better examples, like the Sonic Gather Battle thing.
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>>3911287
Yeah, that one might be closer. I was thinking in terms of stuff seen in a popular release.
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>>3911264
You know this is a shitpost thread by an assmad faggot who has nobody to be cancer at on /v/ anymore and leaked onto /vrpg/, but legitimately the only person who I know for sure played some cult classic shit like moon: Remix RPG and didn't just watch it on Youtube is an Undertale fan.
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>>3911299
>who has nobody to be cancer at on /v/ anymore
No, I'm posting here because I got banned on /v/.
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>>3911378
So now we get the shitposting sloppy seconds.
Brilliant
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>>3911378
Nothing about what you said has anything to do with me being wrong, that being said, maybe they should kick you off all board barring /vg/ since you evidently don't like videogames.
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I like Deltarune/Undertale. I just don't like people who make it their whole personality or think that because they personally like it, any criticism is an attack on themselves.
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>>3911049
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