It seems like a freak occurrence that would happen once in a very rare while. I understand half-orcs as they would likely take female prisoners but OGRES? They seem too stupid to conduct raids & take women. Aside from that, the woman giving birth would likely need a massive c-section & not even survive. What gives? Why is this so common?
>>3915419arcanum made by retarded nerds who don't have sex with women and probably jerk it to rape hentai.in a more realistic sense all half-ogres would come from dudes banging ogresses.
>>3915424Yeah women would never fantasize about being taken by aggressive brutes oh wait
>>3915419>Why are half-ogres so commonAre they?Are they, really?
>>3915430see? this is the kind of sexless childless nerd i'm talking about.brother, your porn brain understanding of sexuality doesn't matter to the size of the human uterus and birth canal. just because a woman fucks a horse on some video you watched doesn't mean she could birth one.
>>3915433In Arcanum they are in every damn city and I'm pretty sure I remember a few in NWN, at least half-orcs
bg2 had ogrillions, which are half-ogres, just mixed with orcs instead of human
Are there any games with Fairy Ogre hybrids.
>>3915439>half-orcsNot the same.So Arcanum and then what?
>>3915430Anon...that's your fetish. Get help.
>>3915487I'm not the one writing or reading these.
>>3915439>In Arcanum they are in every damn cityYou're assuming all half-ogres are the product of a human-orge coupling.Are two half-ogres not allowed to love one another?What if a half-ogre gets it on with someone not half-ogre? Technically it's a quarter-ogre, which Arcanum doesn't drill down in to, but there's a trait for "suppressed orcish looks" which infers some half-(and by extension quarter)-orcs look more/less orcish than others. It's not like the player is going round with a DNA kit testing this shit.
>>3915491Yeah but how they would have gotten a large enough population to do that? Even surviving the intercourse with an ogre would be a miracle.
>>3915504>Yeah but how they would have gotten a large enough population to do that?The same way every species does, sex.It's also perfectly possible there's an underground breeding program run by gnomes...
>>3915515>sexSee the second sentence you conventionally ignored.>Breeding programWould make slightly more sense.
This thread is /tg/ tier.Depends on the setting OP, depends on the setting.
>>3915419What do you have against us Eastern Europeans being able to self insert?
>>3915517>See the second sentence you conventionally ignored.I didn't ignore it, it's just not relevant, how many casualties occur along the way is irrelevant.As long as there's orcs to porc half-orcs will continue to exist.
>>3915531
>>3915419They're not common at all
>>3915419Is this a troll thread?In Arcanum, you can find out that Gnomes are actually breeding half ogres as part of a conspiracy, which involves some pretty heinous things like kidnapping and rape to get the science project going. They document that most human women do not survive the birth, and they also do research about human male/ogre female pairings. I don't remember all the details, though. They are so prominent in the Arcanum setting because Gnomes have been doing this for quite a long time, mostly to combat their disadvantage of being small and easily pushed around, half ogre bodyguards are basically a Gnome creation so that it doesn't happen.
>>3915419Half ogres are just metaphors and allegories to east Germans. And any other descendants of Mongolian rape babies.
>>3915619Yes, nobody has heard of this but you, anon. It's not all newfags ever talk about with regards to Arcanum.
>>3915439>I'm pretty sure I remember a fewSurely that qualifies as "so common."
>>3915424>>3915487newfag
>>3915637dumbass
>>3915619Dude, we all watched Sseth's video, that's how we know about this literally who jank game from 25 years ago.
Kill [[[gnomes]]].
>>3915744>I was 18 when Arcanum released and played itSo this is how it feels to see a faggot generation coming up
>>3915766>mid-40'swhy are you here unc?
>>3915419I've never seen Half-ogres in other games except Arcanum.Obviously not in Fallout, not in DAO, not even in Shadowrun.
>>3915777Where else am I supposed to go? Faceberg?
>>3915777You do know this website is over 20 years old, right? Why aren't you on Discord, kiddo?
>>3915436What if the ogre was a billionaire? Also the size of a creature as an adult doesn’t necessarily translate to its size at birth. A grizzly cub is less than 1 pound at birth, and the reason people have difficult births compared to other animals is an extremely high encephalization ratios - humans has an extremely large skull that women have to pass. A retarded species like an ogre would have a much smaller skull as a fetus, and quite frankly, human women could easily birth one.
>>3915796Furthermore in a controlled breeding program you could medically induce premature labor, further reducing the size of the fetus at birth. You lack the gnomish favstian spirit.
>>3915419Name five other games with half-ogres then, faggot
But WHY did gnomes need huge ogre bodyguards? Who did they think was threatening them? Why did they think people might come after them?
>>3915796>A grizzly cub is less than 1 pound at birthhumanoids don't produce litters so their children are larger and our gestation time and growth period is quite long. ogres are obviously humanoid.>humans has an extremely large skull that women have to pass. A retarded species like an ogre would have a much smaller skull as a fetuseven bringing one to term would be virtually impossible, due to their size, which you are handwaving. but, aside from that ogres have thick craniums with pronounced ridges in almost all depictions, this doesn't equate to brain size.>quite frankly, human women could easily birth one.quite frankly, this is a retarded thing to say.regardless of any of that, the gnomish program is done the way it is for shock value, it's porn shaped horror, because obviously it would be easier to breed human males to ogre females, exactly as we breed mules in reality with a jack and mare, but that wouldn't be as titillating. this is why you defend it, not any rational reasoning.
One thing many people don't realize about hybrid races in fantasy is that most of them were created through magic, not any kind of actual interbreeding. Wizards love mixing things to create guardians or armies or just for the joy of research.
>>3915801A grizzly litter is 1-3 cubs. Less than 3 pounds of baby. Also we don’t know the effects of the hybridization- if the human element substantially increases the gestation and fetal skull size, it could be *more* dangerous to use an ogre as the mother. And again, in a controlled medical breeding program, premature labor is always an option.
>>3915801The female ogres would fall in love with the human breeder and he would lead them on a bloody revolt against their gnomish captors.
>>3915803>A grizzly litter is 1-3 cubsand also not humanoid, bears also have delayed implantation so fetal development is truncated to the tail end of gestation.>Also we don’t know the effects of the hybridizationwe do, they big, the gnomes say that few women survive birthing>in a controlled medical breeding program, premature labor is always an optionand that's incredibly inefficient and retarded in every way. ogre females could be reused and you'd only need a handful of human males to stud them.again, this dumb quest is just there to be shocking for the dudes playing the games. it's completely nonsensical and your attempts to defend it based on logic are quite laughable. you simply don't have the knowledge or wit.
>>3915491>quarter-ogreNo?
>>3915807
>>3915810irrelevant to the discussion.next.
>>3915619>Is this a troll thread>In Arcanum...You're not too good with subtlety.>>3915515>It's also perfectly possible there's an underground breeding program run by gnomes...What did you think this was an allusion to?Your inability to read between the lines tells me you've never played Arcanum and are simply parroting.
>>3915802What is the fuck is wrong with wizards.
>>3915813Looking at other primates, it’s entirely reasonable that a human -ogre hybrid baby would be *smaller* than a human baby and *larger* than an ogre baby>but the canon high mortality rate!That could be due to other factors, such as more rapid fetal development, less pliable bones, early muscular development. But at the end of the day, it’s entirely reasonable to assume a human mother would have a higher success rate than an ogress.
>>3915504They're a stable population after the breeding program, basic genetics >>3915619Orgers age and breed faster than humans , this has all been in the space of a generation in the games
>>3915824>Looking at other primateshumanoids, anon. ogres are humanoids. they share a whole lot more in common with us than being hominids. we cannot interbreed with gorillas, for instance.>it’s entirely reasonable that a human -ogre hybrid baby would be *smaller* than a human baby and *larger* than an ogre babyno, the game directly contradicts that, you cannot handwave inconvenient facts to support your case and would diminish the narrative of the quest itself.>it’s entirely reasonable to assume a human mother would have a higher success rate than an ogressit isn't in any way. ogres are massive in arcanum, and the massiveness extends to their babies. why? because that makes it horrific, which is the point of the quest, to arouse and/or horrify players.the fact is that the arcanum quest is dumb. you cannot disprove this except by engaging in fanfiction.
>>3915828gnome detected
>>3915829no, your love of the narrative is due to gnome programming. you love seeing your women raped.
Why aren’t female gnomes playable in arcanum anyway?
>>3915834budget reasons, but i think there's a mod for that
>>3915777Newfag
>>3915834They prefer to stay home, and do their plotting and scheming there.
>>3915419
>>3915744I've been playing this game since it released, my dude. I did the quest long ago and before Sseth made it a meme.
>>3915436Women are programmed to get wet for the most violent man anon. It's how our female ancestors survived invasions, otherwise they'd die with their male relatives.
>>3915944this has absolutely zero, and i truly mean absolutely, nothing to do with what i'm talking about. go post about wolf pack labels somewhere or something.
>>3915836What’s the mod?
>>3915419You don't know a lot about women and their desires OP
>>3915828>no, the game directly contradicts that, you cannot handwave inconvenient facts to support your case and would diminish the narrative of the quest itself.Does it say the birth complications are due to the size of the infants, also does it say that using ogre mothers has a higher success rate?Furthermore, the reason could simply be sourcing - there are a lot more vulnerable human women to abduct than vulnerable ogresses.
>>3915966The latest version of the UAP. It adds some female versions of races like female halflings.
>>3915419>Why is this so common?Gnomes.I refuse to elaborate as I don’t want to brutally kill myself.
>>3915424>just keep obtain and secure a warehouse full of nearly extinct feral homicidal giantesses!Why are the dumbest fuckers the most belligerent?
>>3916319ironic
It's absolutely hilarious how these cuck fetishists want to jerk off about this one quest in Arcanum all the time. Porn really did a number on this kids.
>>3915419They were an early option in D&D from Dragon Magazine, written by Gygax himself, but even with Metzer's revision. Still pretty unplayable.Turned up in 2E as a option in the monster looseleaf, Book of Humanoids and even in the 1995 Skills & Powers 2.5E books.They were overpowered for combat monsters and sucked at everything else.
>>3915439there is a reason why they are everywhere
>>3915419>not even surviveYeah, they're monsters. They're not common. >>3915436>Ogres are giant violent raiders that kill, steal, and eat people without a second thought>BUT THEY WOULD NEVER EVER RAPE SOMEONE Look man, I get that you've watched too many marvel movies but Arcanum isn't written by a gay jew like your favorite media. >>3915424>Kidnap giant violent cannibalistic savage>Expend large quantities of food keeping them alive>Get a stupid, clumsy, regular sized bloodthirsty cannibalistic savage offspring>???>Profit
>>3915419presumably there are a few reasonsfirstly, most half-ogres you see in settings where they are common are likely are the result of two half ogres reproducing, with no actual ogres involved. secondly, it would likely be that either human women can naturally birth half-ogres easily, or it is female ogres forcing men. thirdly, half-ogres with their immense strength and passable intelligence likely have few problems surviving in any society that tolerates them.
>>3916768keep at it, cuckboy, you'll be able to comprehend what you read one day.
Arcanum half-ogres are basically just Super Mutants in terms of the plot, right?
>>3916768>but Arcanum isn't written by a gay jewDoes he know?
>>3915419Systemic rape.
Gnomes.The products of polygamy, incestuous breeding, and corprophilia.It is no exaggeration or hyperbole that all evils of the world are endorsed and committed by gnomes.A gnome feels no empathy nor remorse, no common humanity that separates us from simple beasts.The only love a gnome can feel, if you dare describe is so, is that for money.A gnome would sooner sell his own mother for a pouch of silvers that do a single good deed in his entire gaping hole of an existence.
>>3915419the reason is obviously the gnomes
Isn't it strange how the 1% all wear pointy red hats?
>>3915744You're underage and new to 4chan. Lol.
>>3916824No, they are perfect goyium.
>>3915419They aren't.Nothing gives, they are not common at all.It isn't common.
>>3916824Half-ogres are irrelevant to the plot. The focus on that sidequest is because secondaries heard about it.
Feels like Arcanum is the perfect crpg for roleplaying. Isn't that what this has always been about?
>>3915504Penis size doesn't necessarily scale. Gorillas are huge and powerful but they have like 3" erections.
>>39201093” is the average? I was under the impression it was 2”. This is extremely concerning
>>3915828>we cannot interbreed with gorillas, for instance.How would you know, have you ever tried?
>>3920136I'm almost certain someone has.
>>3920136>How would you know, have you ever tried?Soviets had the entire program for that under Stalin. With female volunteers even.
>>3920452It was chimpanzees. They’d have more volunteers if it was gorillas
>>3920502Gorillas don't even want to fuck each other in captivity. These experiments were done in vitro.You guys watch too much zoo porn.
>>3915436>incel that doesn't read women authors calling others a sexless nerdI think you should get off this website and talk to women who actually look at porn. If bait good job IDF soldier, hopefully you get promoted.
>>3920676what do femcels who watch porn have to do with the mechanics of birthing an ogre?look, bro, you can't read english. study.
>>3915419Female ogres have big boobs and a very horny.Also you only need one human man to make hundreds of half-ogres.
>>3920603>Gorillas don't even want to fuck each other in captivityAwww, they’re romantic ~
>>3920603Maybe they don't want to fuck each other because they lust for human women
>>3920982The noble gorilla herbivore cares not for your shitty ominvore whores.The ego of man thinks itself universally desirable.
>>3920677>literal ESL backtalking me>thinking this is just femcelsYou've never seen a pussy in your life
>>3921172too lazy.
>>3916728Eppstein Island?
>>391541995% of all characters in every rpg ever made are human, half-elf, or elf, and you're going to complain about a handful of half ogres in one game, like it's a problem with all rpgs?
Anybody see the new Tim Cain vlog about arcanum? I wonder how many beloved and "cult" IPs will be forever lost just because a company needs to make a write off on their taxes. If they ever make an arcanum successor they should include a quest related to ip and tax write offs.
>>3922163>Anybody see the new Tim Cain vlogSkill issue.
>not being a half-ogre with a human father and ogre mother
>>3922380>I heard Ogres are like onions and I love onions
This is going to be one of the those threads that last for 3 month for our communal shame, isn’t it?
>>3915419Name one (1) game other than Arcanum with more than a single half-ogre.
>>3925912Baldur's Gate 1 had them as enemies
>>3925913Guess I should've specified half-ogres you can talk to.
what's a fun half-ogre build/rp in arcanum? also why is sogg so well spoken when he has like 3 int?
