They're not all bad, the Tremere
>>3922865>They're not all badThey're mostly assholes, mostly.
>>3922865>chantry in vienna bombed>untold tremere finally free of whatever enforceable blood bonds the clan had over them
>>3922931I'd only be sort of concerned with whatever they're doing which serves the Pyramid rather than the Camarilla (this is all prior to 5th edition of course). I wonder what their endgame is anyway. I find it endearing that they were seeking immortality and the solution they stumbled across was to become vampires. They could have just walked outside wearing skimpy clothing and they'd have reached the same outcome. The only reason for them to exist within their shadowy institutions as far as I'm concerned is to cure themselves of vampirism and become immortal like any other living guy
>>3922959>I find it endearing that they were seeking immortality and the solution they stumbled across was to become vampires.you have it confused. vampirism was a side effect they didn't want. only reason why the guy who fucked up the ritual ended up still existing was because he also suffered the curse now. trading true magic for blood magic was a massive trade down for house tremere.
>>3922959>vampirism was a side effect they didn't wantNo yeah I know, I meant to imply that, with "stumbled across" I know that they're technically a bunch of screw ups and it's only because of vtm's abysmal power levels that they're an actual threat
>>3922962It's funny when you consider Tremere got off easy. Nagaraja were death-obsessed Mages who wanted to further study death, and who at one point also turned themselves into vampires, but with FAR worse results.
>>3922957That fallout was so big they actually lost their clan weakness.
>>3922959>>3922969what tremere brought to the table was essentially this structured approach of a hermetic mage order. they brought hard hierarchy and scientific method to blood magic. it helped no one else really offered the wizard card to the camarilla.
>>3922865SAY THAT AGAIN, YOU LITTLE SHIT
>>3922982why don't you go drink up some souls diablerist. we know what you're up to
>>3922969 for >>3922962 clearly
>>3922982Go turn some triangles into squares, triclops
>>3922957>v5 loreew
My favorite clan
>>3922982Salubri made it real easy for everyone else to believe they were exactly what Tremere smeared them as. After all, childer DID diablerize their Sire as a rite of passage.
>>3922976>but with FAR worse results.some of the results were ok
>>3923431>gotta eat flesh from still living peoplePASS
>>3924343they don't have to still be living
I wish more Toreadors were thoughtful artists rather than whores and DeviantArt fags. Isaac's a great Toreador, even Ash to some degree, but most Torries are posers, and with the quality of writers we have, even the ones who're meant to be Artistes are bimbo fuckhead faggots. Aesthet Torries should bash the brains of pillheads nightly
>>3924343I know. I hate having to make conversation while I'm eating.
>>3923431She really didn't like it when I pulled out the flamethrower down there in that small close quarters chamber she was in
>>3922976>african magic vs german magicThe result is obvious
>>3925105>Isaac's a great ToreadorThis guy is such a boomer pussy.
>>3925105All artists are posers though
>>3925178As far as barons go, he's not only the most honest but also the least retarded>>3925299Some are worse than others
>>3922865>They're not all badSome are worse.
They piss off Mage glazers to this day by rolling the Hermetics and proving that few people talking about Mage understand how it is supposed to be played. Doesn't get more based than that.
>>3922865They have caused every conflict in the setting, they are in-fact basically Jews
>>3922982nigga I will play salubri on final nights again. I'll do it. yeah I will. watch me do it
>>3928804This. Before the Tremere existed the world was basically a peaceful utopia where vampires lived in harmony and humans knew nothing. The blood flowed freely and everyone was happy and had a quality of life on par with Star Trek Communism. The local prince has no choice but to be an incompetent moron because the Tremere are using foul magic to manipulate him invisibly.
>>3922865>straight up diablerize another clan>but your blood magic is such a useful tool other clans just go along with it keikaku doori
>>3922865My wife, Aisling Sturbridge
>>3930151That was literally Tremere's play as only Assamites had the other blood sorcery and it was pretty different. Thaumaturgy sure was a convenient way to counter Tzimisce's Koldunic bullshit.
>>3930183Shame about the third novel, really shows you can't replace a nice core team
>>3928804Ha. It was on thread on /v/ where some anon was greentexting about how tremeres are essentially Jews that made me start this thread. Saying things like, they used blood magic and ingratiated themselves slowly into society without being REAL vampires. Turns out, every clan can be easily compared to jews. I mean, they're vampires, nigga
FUCK the Tremere usurpers, I really enjoy turning them into furniture.
>>3930333Julia my beloved
>>3930333Is Dasha in the game too?
>>3930481Tzimisce are just mad they got monstermogged by a bunch of wizards that stole vampirism. The guys who love to brag about turning mortals into furniture start crying like little bitches the minute someone mentions a Tremere turning one of their faggy cousins into a Gargoyle. ONE FAT BITCH in Ceoris managed to match the entire Voivodate's freak. Tziggers have never recovered, they're only sustained in the modern nights because the Sabbat's sole function is to provide Tziggers with welfare.
