>runs out around openly in the uniform of a well known terrorist organisation>is never arrested on sightShe's basically waving around an ISIS flag and not even Citadel security cares.
>>3930300>a well known terrorist organisationAre they though? Cerberus always struck me as a more of an underground organisation.
>>3930303Everyone you meet knows Cerberus.And they were knowingly behind major happenings like fucking up a whole colony in ME1
>>3930304>Everyone you meet knows CerberusIt's been a while since I played ME2, so help me out. Do people know about Cerberus who were not involved in the events of ME1 or had any direct relationship with them? Tali and Anderson obviously know, so does Jack. But I never got the feeling that Cerberus was very public about their operations. The different Cerberus cells don't even know about each other.
>>3930307>But I never got the feeling that Cerberus was very public about their operations.They openly wear around their fucking logo everywhere.And in all the Cerberus experiments in ME1, it's never a big secret that they're behind it - they're always shown to be bad at covering their tracks.I can't remember a single character who ever asks "Cerberus? What's that?".And the people running the Citadel are explicitly shown to know Cerberus, yet C-Sec doesn't care.
>>3930308>They openly wear around their fucking logo everywhere.Yes but who says anyone recognizes it>And in all the Cerberus experiments in ME1, it's never a big secret that they're behind it - they're always shown to be bad at covering their tracks.It is a secret and the Alliance is not that keen on making it public, since Cerberus started out as an Alliance military black ops group. Knowing how much the races trust each other there is no chance the Alliance shared their intel with anyone.>And the people running the Citadel are explicitly shown to know Cerberus, yet C-Sec doesn't care.The council knows, but why would they tell C-Sec. Cerberus doesn't even have a presence on the Citadel. C-Sec has bigger fish to fry, there are literal shoot-outs happening every single day on the Citadel. It's like NYC but shinier. And even if we ignore everything else, Shepard is a spectre and he can bring Miranda or as many Cerberus operatives with him as he wants.
>>3930313>Knowing how much the races trust each other there is no chance the Alliance shared their intel with anyone.Alliance races other than humans are shown to be well aware of Cerberus.
>>3930300>Mass Effect 2 has absurdly dumb writingWhat! No! That's ... that's just not possible! It's the best rpg ever made!
>>3930317It has some really great character stuff but everything involving Cerberus is just so fucking retarded.>Normady, a historic step towards human and Turian collaboration, more advanced than anything humanity could have built by themselves, a completely unique ship>lol we just build a new one, also we made it more advanced, no we're not going to explain where all our infinite resources are from
>>3930300Citadel security lets you enter in with a Geth, anon.
>>3930317Mass Effect 2's writing itself is mostly great, it just doesn't get picked up by ME3. It's all characters and world building and very little plot, and the little plot it had gets completely dropped in ME3. >>3930320It's outright stated that Cerberus is at the brink of bankruptcy because of Project Lazarus and the Normandy. I'd say Cerberus is fine, killing Shepard in the beginning is not. They could have settled for heavily injured and it would have been believable, but bringing someone back from the dead who's literally been burned to a crisp in the stratosphere of some remote planet is not sci fi it's magic. It's a great opening don't get me wrong, but boy did they overdo it.
>>3930322>It's outright stated that Cerberus is at the brink of bankruptcy because of Project Lazarus and the Normandy.Which is literally bringing someone back from being a pile of ash, and beating the entirety of humanity's military at building ships.This should've bankrupted the entirety of Earth a dozen times over.It's like a splinter faction of the CIA curing cancer and building their own F-35s from scratch. It's retarded.
>>3930313>Shepard is a spectre and he can bring Miranda or as many Cerberus operatives with him as he wants.This. >>3930321Also this. Shepard is also definitely being monitored by council agents, no way they trust him.
>>3930325>Shepard is a spectreME2 tries it's hardest to make that completely irrelevant.Biggest slap in the face for ME1 fans. Becoming a spectre was such an awesome moment in the first game.
>>3930328The Council was apathetic towards the Reaper threat, which has been well established in ME1, so Shepard now works for someone who takes the threat seriously. Without working for the Council the spectre status isn't really that important, except for some goodies.
>>3930330>The Council was apathetic towards the Reaper threat, which has been well established in ME1Did you only play the first 5 minutes of ME1?>Without working for the Council the spectre status isn't really that important, except for some goodies.Okay, sounds like you didn't play it at all. Becoming the first human spectre was an major event for all of humanity.
>>3930331What are you talking about, the Council is denying the existence of reapers even when there's a whole fucking reaper right above their heads. >Becoming the first human spectre was an major event for all of humanity.Yes it was? Not relevant though because spectres work for the Council and Shepard in ME2 does not.
>>3930332That's the problem.ME2 begins by destroying half of what ME1 set up, and fails to set up anything worthwhile itself.A big reason why ME3 is so shit.
>>3930334Yes I agree with that. ME2 does little to advance the overarching Reaper plot. But that doesn't mean that the story it tells isn't coherent in itself. It just doesn't fit the rest of the trilogy.
>>3930300>She's basically waving around an ISIS flagShe really isn't. There's a huge difference between knowing someone is probably responsible, and having civilian authorities be able to do something about it. The creeper issue for example. Regardless of if you go for renegade or paragon, Shepard never manages to pin Feros or that other colony on Cerberus. And Noveria is outside Citadel authority. In ME2, Miranda is basically given a pass by the council because Shepard's crew is operating in the traverse, and not in Citadel space.>not even Citadel security caresMyeah. It also doesn't care what STG does, that there's Krogan on the station, that there's plenty of merc groups and/or criminal organisations like Blue Suns, Eclipse and Blood pack mercs around. C-sec is also slow to respond to the Shadow Broker's forces. In our reality, there's about a dozen or so organisations in the US alone that is not only suspected of domestic terrorism, but that has been absolutely convicted of such. All of these groups still exist, and all of them have members that proudly display their loyalties without authorities being able to suspend them. So I don't know why you would assume someone "should do something" about it.
>>3930358>Shepard never manages to pin Feros or that other colony on Cerberus. And Noveria is outside Citadel authority.Neither Feros nor Noveria were Cerberus. Cerberus did some small scale biological and AI experiments in ME1, but nothing that would put them on the galactic radar.
Not an RPG.
>>3930324Its not that crazy that they managed to rebuild the Normandy as apparently they have many sympathizers within the Alliance military and government and its pretty much stated outright the blueprints for the Normandy SR1 was given to them. As for reviving Shepard, this is an asspull the series will never get over I personally would of liked it if Shepard was in Critical condition after going down with the Normandy and then Cerberus has to go 6 million dollar man on rebuilding and rehabilitating him. It would have also made for a much better tutorial of Shepard doing small missions for Cerberus realizing hey they saved me and the Alliance abandoned me and it would of helped made a better narrative wedge that this Shepard was a bit more jaded towards the Alliance.
>>3930371ikr nothing that runs on a higher res than 640x480 and has more than 256 colors is a real rpg
>>3930376>and it would of helped made a better narrative wedge that this Shepard was a bit more jaded towards the Alliance.This. "They left me for dead" doesn't work if you actually were dead.
>>3930377This isn't /vr/ tourist, cover shooters with dialogue options aren't RPGs.
>>3930376>they have many sympathizers within the Alliance military and governmentSince when does Cerberus have Turian sympathizers?The Normandy has secret Turian technology that not even the human engineers building it had full knowledge of.
>>3930334yeah and i was called of schizo and hater because i disliked it. The only good thing on 1 was the storie and i really wanted more of it instead i got an adventure shooter with some dumb story and not progression... I remember having a rage fit with the last boss because it remimder me of super contra robots boss.
>>3930391>The only good thing on 1 was the storieEverything about ME1 was great. Characters, locations, music, I even enjoyed the combat back in 2007. The Legendary Edition definitely improves it though. 1 is the only real RPG in the series.
>>3930303The writing is inconsistent. Originally yes in ME1 Cerberus was a shadowy human supremacist organization who perhaps were suspiciously well connected. The sort of thing that no one actually knows a lot about but people or aliens interested in politics including humans would know about as a fringe group influencing human politics and conducting dubious research. Something that is probably not exclusive to humanity as I imagine each race has its own fringe groups. In ME2 Cerberus was revamped to be way bigger and overt. They got their own space station, custom built for them and not something they just repurposed. It becomes a little stupid when you have literally terrorists like Miranda running around not even in disguise and law enforcement not doing anything. It only gets worse in ME3 when over the course a couple years somehow Cerberus has a fleet + the strength of several PMC's.In honesty picking Cerberus to be the player's new boss was a misstep and the original plan to have the Geth revive Shepard was better. A sect of Geth, perhaps discovering religion as alluded to in ME1, do not care about money and are naturally curious. They want to know about their purpose in the universe, whether they have souls, does it matter, are organics and machines the same or different with Shepard being their agent and research project.
>>3930334Reaper plot was shit and it's good that ME2 mostly ignored it, but problem is that they didn't drop it completely.
>>3930390You can ask EDI after unshackling her in ME2. She says at 1:35 directly that they got the original technical designs and before that she explains how they have several sympathizers in the Military Industry. Cerberus didn't need to steal the blueprints from the Turians when they could quite literally just ask an Alliance officer for them.https://youtu.be/2rGF5SDE3RE?si=UvdaRZOCVuBu_z97
>>3930408Yeah who cares about reapers when you got so many awesome Cerberus villains.
>>3930410Why would a random Alliance officer have secret proprietary Turian technology?The alliance races don't share all their technology with each other.
>>3930412Sorry, I meant the Turians didn't share all their technology with the Alliance.
>>3930300My favorite part is where they introduce technology that can revive the dead, something that man has dreamt of since the dawn of time...and it's just used to explain why the hero is railroaded into working for the bad guys now and immediately forgotten.
>>3930418I figured it was because they wanted an in-universe explanation for giving you a new character generator for your existing character.Still stupid though
>>3930407>literally terrorists like MirandaWas she convicted of any crimes? I didn't think so. Libel.
>>3930427Neither was Osama Bin Laden, what's your fucking point? The Alliance doesn't do trials in absentia.
>>3930471My point is that Osama bin Laden was illegally murdered by the US government.
>>3930411Nah, it could have been more into space politics and new threats from unexplored relays. Also, more exploration, Anderson in game 1 mentions terminus species, and we basically get only vorcha and one yagh dude, and maybe one mentioned only species in some lore text, not even scenery npcs of other aliens.Very lazy.
>>3930488Ok.
>>3930313>The council knows, but why would they tell C-SecWhy would the government inform their security about a terrorist cell? Are you fucking with me?
>>3931265>Why would the government inform their security about a terrorist cell?
>>3931265Shepard is definitely being monitored by Council agents when he’s on the Citadel, and he’s the only one who brings Cerberus to the station. There is no Cerberus threat on the Citadel so C-Sec wouldn’t be involved. They couldn’t do anything about it anyway because Shepard is a spectre.
They're paying attention to her fat bunda
