Make yours: https://topsters.org/
>>3932765You're alright OP.Give me a minute and I'll fill it out
>>3932765Solid list though a bit too much ff particularly x and xiii
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>>3932766>>3932765Here.>>3932771>Dark SpireBased. Been meaning to play that sometime.
>>3932773Fuuuuck I forgot to put SMTV on here
having ff13 in any list should be a bannable offence.
>>3932765Nice
At first 25 seems like a lot, but you probably made the limit so high so people could get the well known good games on their list and still have plenty of room for the things that show more personal taste.>>3932771>Mother 1, Knights in the Nightmare, AND Unlimited SaGalook out, this guy is a sicko
>>3932765YWNBAW
>>3932765I stopped trying as much after row 2
Yes, Utawarerumono is an RPG. Also, aside from the top 5, most of the list is not necessarily in respective order.
This would probably change around a bit if I put more thought in to it, or if I used a broader or narrower definition of JRPG.>>3933183I hadn't heard of Dark Half, but it sounds kind of interesting. I might give it a try at some point.
I'm impressed that this site is able to show some obscure jarpigs very fast
>>3932765I feel like I can only get up to 19/25 games, I could fill in the last 6 slots with jrpgs, but not jrpgs that I actually like enough to feel like it matters, like the seven final fantasies I didn't really like that much.I need to play the mother series, I think I should like at least 2 of those, maybe all 3.Going by other's 5x5s, maybe giving another chance to Legend of Mana, Dragon Quest games & Breath of Fire games, I dropped them when I last tried them though.Radiata stories and shadow heart I should probably play too.
actually I deleted my post and thought about it some more
>>3933307>AbadoonIs the main boy's fear-curing water thing supposed to be rechargeable? I thought it said it was, but I spent the whole game never finding a way to do it
>>3933483afaik its only possible with cheat engine maybe you remember it wrong?
>>3932765you dont even need that many choices o.p.send some recommendations
>>3933519Oh huh, for some reason I thought it was supposed to beWell that explains that
I personally dislike listing multiple entries from a franchise, even if I have multiple entries that I love from that franchise. As such, only the first three rows are games that I love. The last two rows are just games that I like. I could have done this with just games that I love by including repeating franchises, but I think that this list better represents the scope of my shitty taste better than a fifth of it being 90s FF.
>>3932765So, all the JRPGs I've ever played? What's the point of picking such a big number?
>>3932765why does everyone seem to have pokemon on their list. I was honestly disappointed by the series overall as a kid and didn't have time for iv/ev bullshit in college.
>>3934091>didn't have time for iv/ev bullshit in college.Oh nooo you couldn't just not autistically minmax for trivial advantages in an easy game for small children.
>>3933762this is a board for people who are RPG enthusiasts. You might be on the more casual end of the userbase anon - and that's fine, everyone has to start from somewhere.
>>3934104>Oh nooo you couldn't just not autistically minmax for trivial advantages in an easy game for small children.finishing the game is easy. When everyone is asking for iv/ev bullshit online when you are trying to get a battle during the fourth gen. I was in college, I had lengthy assignments. I didn't have time to keep track of invisible stats and play games with static sprites.
These stand out the most to me.
>>3934119lol there's like 4 disgaea games here you had more free time than any other chart poster
>>3934129trainning was was easy in the NIS titles, grinded everyone up in an hour or so no problem. Also the stats are visible and you can turn off the battle animations.
>>3934091It's nice to see someone else appreciate Growlanser. I still need to get around to trying the first game now that there's a translation patch for it.
>>3932765Are roguelikes like Shiren considered JRPGs?
>>3932765Only added games I completed and liked. Still have a lot to play.
>>3932765>>3934168Changed some stuff.
>>3934091>why does everyone seem to have pokemon on their list.I did some tallying and it doesn't seem that over represented in the thread to me.Series representation:>Final Fantasy series45 (38 mainline) appearances >Megami Tensei umbrella 29 (18 w/o Persona) [I'm counting Metaphor has a Persona Game]>Dragon Quest series20 (19 mainline)>TLoH: Trails series13 (I'm disappointed in the people who listed tons of these at once in their lists)>Chrono series11 >Tales series11>Pokemon series11 (9 mainline)>Xeno meta series10>Breath of Fire series10 (this placement is actually really surprising to me)>SaGa series 8>Mana Series8>Disgaea7 (8 if you count Phantom Brave)>Mario RPG series (both of them)7>"Team Asano" games7>Kingdom Hearts7>Star Ocean series7>Metal Max series6>Mother series5>Grandia series5>Suikoden series5>Fire Emblem series4>Wild Arms series4>Shadow hearts series4>Etrian Odyssey series 4>The World Ends With You series4Series with under 4 appearances I'm not listing, because they got beat by the game without a series with the most appearances, The Legend of Dragoon, at 4.
>>3934163Don't see why not. It's your chart and no one is policing them.
Listing more than one game per series is cringeAnd 25 is way too many to get a read on, have a 3x3 instead
>>3934255>complains about the conditions of a thread he entered>posts a chart filled with zoomer slop
>>3934255Thanks for the Mardek recommendation.>>3934265Anon is completely right. It's quite obvious that you shouldn't bloat your list with games that are too similar.
>>3934255>he says >posting 2 pokemon games in a chart 36% the size of everyone else’sBad bait anon>>3934250
>>3934409He only posted one pokemon game. The other is a Mystery Dungeon game with a pokemon skin.
>>3934091Spamming bubble beam in rock gym/flamethrower in ice gym needs EV/IV? Without fanhacks i already quitted this snorefest series after BW2 People hyping Cynthia to be balls hard when she is just slightly harder in a braindead easy game
>>3934454>Spamming bubble beam in rock gym/flamethrower in ice gym needs EV/IV?>People hyping Cynthia to be balls hard when she is just slightly harder in a braindead easy gamenah, nah ,nah.....Back in 07' folks were asking about iv/ev shit before battle online and it was staple of battle revolution. Also it was never about the main game, the real challenge was were the expansions and other players.Back in 00' you weren't getting through stadium without the missingno glitch. You had to have multiple in game teams bc the shit worth while had crappy movesets in rentals.
>>3932765EB, 7 and CT are overrated
>>3934600bruh, you can't just say that and then be like: "Yes, Inindo is good enough to be on my list", lmao>Well, I thought the fact that the recruitable NPCs actually moved around the world and had their own goals to be quite novelOk, but the game still bad. Play Uncharted Waters or something, come on.
>>3934600I was thinking of playing Arcana and/or Inindo yesterday but went for MD Shadowrun instead, what do you like about them?
>>3934600>EB, 7 and CT are overratedSure, but not so overrated that none of them should be in your 5x5, then you're just a poser.
>>3934091Pokemon is fun because of the large focus on things that are relevant to the core game, but aren’t the core game itself (namely collection and playing against other people) that give incredible value and depth beyond what the main campaign provides. To compare to say (looking at your list and a couple others) Trials of Mana, which also shares traits with Pokemon i.e. very simplistic game to play, having a functional but extremely shallow story/characters (and desu pokemon’s beating it out on that now), ToM simply does not achieve that. And ToM is better than most jrpgs, because it’s designed to be played at least three times! It doesn’t just cut at 40 hours. And sure there’s social factors outside the game itself that influence it - a huge playerbase, a glut of documentation for those interested in it, more Mods than you could shake a stick at to tailor your preferred experience, Mountains of multimedia material, etc. that add to the experience and attachment too
>>3933185My boyfriend disagrees
>>3935100> (namely collection and playing against other people)There were three pilliars in my town drugs/music/sports, once folks turned twelve they dropped the shit altogether to fit in these social niches. All that was left for me was a simple game with static sprites with an expansion where nothing touched. >) Trials of Mana>> very simplistic game to playA classic game brought to the modern era with oldschool beatup'emup gameplay. >having a functional but extremely shallow story/characters (A light, story sure, but an existent one in comparison to the first four gens of Pokémon. Shit actually happened in game, fans aren't bullshiting with headcannon.> more Mods than you could shake a stick at to tailor your preferred experience>Mountains of multimedia material, etc. You sound zoomish, dude. >I was ten during gen1, >twelve during gen 2>skipped gen 3 all together >nineteen on the cusp on gen 4 We didn't have that in the first gen it was a bare bones game that made us clamor for what was happening in the manga.
There are plenty others already mentioned here. These have stuck with me the most.
>ITT: We only play Atlus, Falcom, Squanix and Jewtendo gamesI will be honest, I fucking hate this normalfaggot board
>>3937558which other jrpgs do you recommend friend?
Love this thread. Here are mine.
>>3937558Tbf this applies to the whole 4ch*n
>>3937558Square is based.
>>3940855How the hell did both Questers make it onto your list?
>>3940922Really fun games. Different items that give different skills, like the resource system, and the setting. They've gripped me more than some other classics.
>>3940855You have some unique tastes. Did you have a bizzarre childhood? Or a Gameboy but no NES/SNES system?
>>3940855KoL and POLC, but no LUCT? Interesting.
>>3932765This was rough. I might have forgotten some that I really like that didn't make it to the list. There are lots of RPGs I like, for example Chrono Cross, I just don't feel comfortable putting Cross on the same list as Trigger. I'm also not completely sold on XII, I just needed 1 last game to fill the chart so I decided to add another Final Fantasy since nothing else was coming to mind.
>>3941294The resource system in Quester adds basically nothing to the strategy and just seems like it exists so you don't beat the game in 2 hours.They're nothingness games where I would have felt like I got scammed had I payed full release price for them instead of getting them on sale.Have you played Path of the Abyss? (which also isn't incredible, but it beats the pants off Quester and has similar points in the equipment in the design)
>>3932765This thread made me realize I hadn't played as many JRPGs as I thought...
>>3940855>Legend of DragoonEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW......That game doesn't belong on any list.>tried to be hyperreal and looked like shit>no memorable music>characters were kinda meh>uncreative monsters >nonsensical plot.>nonsensical settingsyou are going to tell me that some fallen Wingly city is just going to sit there for thousands of years and no one is going to touch it?>shitty battle system.Common dude.Also the Third M&L was the best.>>3938332[props for lunar, Mana, FFVI, CT, CC, ssmrpg and FFTI have to Visions of Mana doesn't belong on that list; the gameplay was good, but the creativity was sucked out by the Chinese that given to be developed.>Crazy monster mutant/ storybook towns people replaced with generic races>no mana esque music>MMO esque fetch quest and battle quest>generic sacrafice plot.>Familiar faces made China/korea friendly nuttered bullshit.FUCK THAT.
>>3941371I had a Gameboy, but I didn't even play RPGs on my Genesis back then.>>3941428I enjoy Person of the Lordly Caliber more than the turn based game, but it's still 25 games which is a lot. >>3941778https://youtu.be/R5rcSKydLEE
>>3941759I enjoy it. Setting out into the world, having a limited amount of actions when it comes to walking, taking down debris, getting food, synthesizing resources during combat to use skills that require drugs, batteries, gunpowder, tools, and bullets. Then each character can take up to three actions but start with five AP and skills cost a certain amount of AP from one to even four. You have skills that apply a damage over time tick on enemies and you have other skills that capitalize on it, among other things like debuffs to get through enemy armors. Then there are the aggro mechanics that shift around who is most likely in your party that'll be attacked. Skills that hit many enemies draw aggro quickly from enemies thus they start to dog pile high threat party members, but not only can you accrue aggro but enemies just hitting that character will reduce their aggro level and certain skills can reduce it, shift it, or raise it in hopes to outpace other party members threat levels.I at least found it fairly enjoyable in contrast to some other RPGs I've played.
>>3941789yeah that's not really a memorable menu music. I would say the wingly ruins battle music was alright as well as the final boss theme It just was a mid game overall in comparison to everything else.
>>3941796There's some PS1 JRPGs I found more enjoyable than it, and others I didn't.
>all these non-rpgsas expected of this reddit sub
>>3942436Reminder: a game needn't be turn-based in order to be an RPG.
Dont want to open another thread, but maybe someone can help me. Is Trails in the Sky 1st chapter a challenging and rewarding game to get into?And if not do you any recs?
>>3942923>challengingIt gets easier when you get more tools to your arsenal, so you probably have to play on the highest difficulty. Some fights are pretty tough still though.>rewardingI'd say so.
>>3942937Alright ill give it a try. How about the Trails of Cold Steel series?
>>3942946Sorry, you need a Trails expert for further analysis. I've only played the first two games.
I'd like to make a chart but I don't feel like arguing over what counts as a RPG.
>>3932765>>3933183>>3933256>>3934174good taste, bros.
>>3943020wing it
>>3943020bro, you didn't end up on /vrpg/ by accident. you know what a jrpg is.
>>3942923do you like generic romcom anime, especially ones that rehash every anime gag you have ever seen? Then you might like Trails in the Sky.
>>3932765Going through my finished JRPGs, I struggled. Guess I'm more of a larper than I thought, considering my backlog of JRPGs is bigger than the actual amount of completed ones.
>>3932765im lazy. so lets do 12.can't search for the Dragonball Z SNES RPG though. or anything fan translated?
>>3943098>y backlog of JRPGs is bigger than the actual amount of completed ones.i just kept replaying the ones i liked....
>>3940855Knight of Lodis sux.
>>3943078that is literally the worst thing anyway could have saidDROPPED
>>3943123Super Saiya Densetsu is there. And there's tons of fan translated games listed here, I assume you're just typing the name wrong.
>>3943071I know but do you guys know? I consider the Yakuza games, even before turn based Like a Dragon, to be jrpgs for example.
that was really fucking hard to do not gonna liei know theres a lot of games to play i havent played yet, but ive also havent liked some jrpgs hard enough
>says not gonna lie>is the king of redditEvery single fucking time
>>3943303>le king of reddit because i dont like "Loli fighters X"
>>3943232I said this earlier in the thread, but no one here is policing these. Yeah, someone might rib you a bit, but it has more often been for "but that game sucks" than "that's not a JRPG". I personally don't consider Soulslikes to be JRPGs but I don't see any reason to throw an autistic conniption fit over it. Hell, knock yourself out and throw in an Igarashi-vania on the list if you jive with Alucard, Soma, and/or Shanoa. As far as I can tell, this thread is using the loosest possible definition of "JRPG" to mean "RPGs developed in Japan" and "non-Japanese developed RPGs inspired by JRPGs".
>>3943304Uhh reddit bob, it's time to settle down and get some taste, not gonna lie. Know what I'm sayin?
>>3943307Oof, not sure about this one
>>3943307What do you want me to say, man?I havent played suikoden 1 or 2, i plan to.Havent played xenogears but i plan to. Xenoblade gaems dont interest me and they are on nintendo consoles.Ive played persona 4 and 5, but i dont like them as much as 3.I prefer paper mario 64 to thousands year door. I didnt want to fill the entire chart with FF games as well. Between all the tactics games, i like A2 the most.Havent played wild arms but i plan to.I want to try Etrian oddisey one of these days as well.Im not interested in SMT, the aesthetics dont attract me.I didnt like metaphor much. Exp33 is good but i wouldnt qualify it as one of my favorites.I played breathe of fire 3 and dropped it since i didnt like it much. I want to try 4 eventually. Havent played tails of ____.Trails games as well, the sky trilogy is excellent, and zero/azure are ok, but cold steel and onwards is pure slop.Havent played mother games, not usre if they are interesting to me.I played legend of dragoon but didnt like it much.
>>3943310What the fuck mang. I told you to settle down mang. Like woah mang. I be postin my top 15 later for you to get sum insight mang. Gonna take a while but I'll post it if you know what I'm saying, not gonna lie, but is gon be fire, yo.
>>3943312>I be postin my top 15 later for you to get sum insight mang.Yeah do that so i know which games i should avoid to not become a miserable retard like you
>>3943314That is very rude mang.
>>3943316wat
>>3943317kek google not wanting to be racist brought us here.
Here's my chart. I had to stretch the definition a little bit to make it up to 25 but in general I am happy with it. But pretty normie taste I feel, except for Noora and the Time Studio, no one has played that one.My favorite is either that aforementioned Noora or Paper Mario: TTYD, depends on the day of the week I guess.
>>3943343>Etrian IV >Etrian IV before other EtriansExplain yourself!>Etrian VNice I think its greatly underappreciated
>>3943343Also convince me E4 isn't on there because of pure nostalgia
>>3943349>>3943350EO4 being there is a very personal pick, I know that isn't objectively the best or the most challenging one of the etrians. But EO4 got me into the series and I place great respect on games that introduce something great to me. So on to the chart it goes.
>>3943355I respect what you said
Watch this
>>3943098>XIII as a favoriteWeird.
>>3943124Nothing wrong with that
Did you find any cool games other anons posted and want to try out? I for one have to look into Lunar. Its one of the very few games i know basically nothing about. I think it might be the universally loved Saturn JRPG i saw mentioned here and there.Also i want to play Lufia 2 for that infamous super mini game. Also im surprised so many people liked Octopath 2. I thought it was a game i only liked because i was in a special moot.I will also replay Dragon Quest Monsters.
>>3943813No, I can't say that anything has made me think "I need to add that to my backlog". Instead, it has reminded me that I do have a ton of potential gold ores lying in my backlog mine. Every year or so, I do try to at least expand out to another franchise that I missed out on originally, but it is a hard balancing act between casting a wide net and still trying to dive deeper into series. While I do often like the general consensus "good" entries, there are times that I click with an entry usually disregarded by the fandom, so just playing a curated list of GOATs isn't exactly the simple answer.
>>3932765>https://topsters.org/what's good
>>3943813>I will also replay Dragon Quest Monsters.Never a bad choice.
>>3943317>>3943319 i like loli games, mang
>>3943314Here you go mang >>3943528>>3944219Post lolige chart
>>3944205my dude knows whats up
>>3934091Emerald/Platinum are genuinely good JRPGs. An ocean of gameplay. Sounds like you got your ass handed to you in WiFi battles. LOL.
>>3933183I thought wandering sword was made by a Chinese dev?
>>3944651NTA, but yes that is correct. That said, the game design is clearly copying Japan's homework. It's not like China's gaming industry is particularly original or transformative (as in the origin of JRPGs is from early 80s CRPGs but ultimately took on its own design philosophy very at odds to the evolution of CRPGs; at this time, China hasn't really transformed their take on RPGs to be something uniquely their own school of design). China has pretty much always been very blatantly bootleg in how it operates. The only difference now is that their industry actually has enough dough to make their knock-offs high enough quality for the fakes to match the originals. I personally have no interest in playing HD bootleg JRPGs, but my own tastes and inclinations are fairly arbitrary anyway.
>>3934091>why does everyone seem to have pokemon on their listI don't think any Pokemon game is good as a JRPG. Maybe babby's first JRPG, but not as an actual RPG. It's still an iconic series and every has a favorite Pokemon or a few that they like. It's not engaging to just AFK steamroll a game with your starter though. However, the battling can be pretty good. I recommend playing a difficulty romhack to see how decent Pokemon can be. I recommend Elite Emerald Redux, which is kinda crazy; each Pokemon has 4 abilities. It makes it so that you can instantly catch or encounter any Pokemon you want that is available on that route, and you instantly level up to max (dictated by your badge count; all trainers you fight are the same level as you) and you can instantly teach any move as well as set EVs and nature. It's a pure gameplay mod. Radical Red is also another generally liked difficulty mod, but it's not as easy to construct your team as Elite Emerald Redux is.
>>3944651Correct. And the rest of that row is made by Westerners.
>>3944695>It's not engaging to just AFK steamroll a game with your starter though.why would you play a game in a way that isn't enjoyable just because you have the option to?
>>3944703>why would you play a game in a way that isn't enjoyable just because you have the option to?Most people who play Pokemon just streamroll the game with their starter or with a favorite they catch along the way. There are memes about it, it's such a common way to play Pokemon. To do anything else makes the game pretty cumbersome. If you want to play a Pokemon game as a teambuilder, you should just play a difficulty romhack, as I recommended. It's more difficult than base Pokemon, and it's also easier to assemble teams and to tailor them. In real Pokemon, you have to do retarded shit like breed for egg moves and reroll perfect IVs and farm for EVs.
>>3944709>Most people >There are memes about it
>>3944737Yup.
>>3944709I have never met anyone that plays this way in the past 26 years of playing these games and talking to people in real life and online about them. It's always been teams of 6. I doubt that many people actually solo the games. All the multimedia surrounding it teaches team building as well. Solo play is utterly abnormal.
>>3934091I dont have it on my list, but I don't enjoy the monster-catcher subgenre at all, including SMT. not my thing.
>>3944822See >>3944738It's common enough that there are multiple variations of this meme. I've seen many more than this, I just don't ever save them. It's the easiest way to play the game. It's how everyone played them. Catching Pokemon is extremely cumbersome, finding the Pokemon you want is extremely cumbersome, and then leveling up the Pokemon so that it doesn't die is extremely cumbersome. Even as a kid when I actually cared about catching Pokemon a little bit, all I did is catch them, I didn't actually use them because it's so much more effort to do that. And in normal JRPGs, if you get given a character who is a significantly lower level than the rest of your party, you usually benched that character if possible, and that's in a game where everyone in the party gets exp. Most people do not start with their weak Pokemon they want to level, then switch into their starter, then do that over and over again to level the new Pokemon. Even Exp. Share doesn't truly solve this issue. The newer games have Exp. All, but people complain about that too, that it makes the games too easy, because now your entire team is over leveled instead of just the starter. If you wanna play Pokemon the "real" way, it's way better to just play a difficulty romhack. You can actually lose in difficulty romhacks, and building teams is a lot less work. No breeding, no hatching eggs, no rolling for IVs, no farming EVs, no searching for the Pokemon you want that is the rare spawn on the route, etc. You also literally cannot beat them by just killing everything with your starter and maybe 1 other Pokemon like you can with the official games.
>>3944906I don't care if you were actively playing the game wrongly as a kid. Again, this isn't the way most people played as you claim. Stop pretending like your dumb child self had seen into the Matrix or some shit and acting like you were the norm. It's a sad cope. Building up a team of 6 fully trained Pokemon is, was, and will always be the norm in the mainline games. Yes, some dumbasses like you choose to play it wrong, but that is by no means the standard play style.
>>3944921>I don't care if you were actively playing the game wrongly as a kid.That's how everyone played them, anon. It's not even a me thing, it's an everyone thing. >Again, this isn't the way most people played as you claim. It is the way most people played Pokemon. *IF* this doesn't happen anymore (and it does) it's only because Exp. All exists now. >Stop pretending like your dumb child self had seen into the Matrix or some shit and acting like you were the norm. ...what? Why are you like this? Are you a zoomer? You're a zoomer, right? That would explain why you're being this way. I'm not at all even conceivably claiming that my much younger self "say into the Matrix", what the fuck does that even mean? This is literally how EVERYONE played Pokemon. There are dozens of variations of this meme for a reason. >Building up a team of 6 fully trained Pokemon is, was, and will always be the norm in the mainline games. That's definitely the intended way to play the game. Unfortunately, the official games are baby mode easy and they give out too much exp or something, so that by the time you can really even start catching Pokemon, your starter is already 2-3x higher level than anything you catch, and because it's not actually worth it to catch more Pokemon (since you have to very cumbersomely level them up) it's not really a thing that most people do, outside of the situations described in the meme. For example, everyone used Red Gyarados to some degree. I myself even took the time to level up Magikarp back in Blue, which is extremely cumbersome btw, so that I could have a Gyarados, but he ended up becoming partly an HM slave. >Yes, some dumbasses like you choose to play it wrong, but that is by no means the standard play style.Most people played Pokemon this way. I wasn't a kid when Exp. All got added so maybe it's slightly different now, but everyone played this way. If you want "real" Pokemon, just play a difficulty romhack, not an official game.
>>3944927I'm 36 and have been playing the games since the end of the 90s with the release of Red/Blue in the US (specifically Blue version). Again, I have never met anyone that played this way back in the 90s on GB, 00s on GBA or DS, or 10s on DS, 3DS, or Switch. Even before the godawful revamped EXP All from Gen VI onwards, teambuilding was the standard playstyle. If there were kids playing it as essentially a solo game, then they were probably the same chucklefucks that have grown up complaining about turn-base game play and RPG mechanics and want the series to stop being a JRPG.
>>3944935>If there were kids playing it as essentially a solo game, then they were probably the same chucklefucks that have grown up complaining about turn-base game play and RPG mechanics and want the series to stop being a JRPG.That's how most kids played those games, hence the memes, and no it has nothing to do with complaining about turn-based gameplay. Turn-based RPGs were my favorite genre as a kid and I still enjoy them today. But no one made a team of 6 Pokemon where they were all roughly the same level, because it just wasn't efficient to do that and your starter could already solo everything. And if it couldn't there are revives. That's how everyone played the games, that's why there are so many variations of that meme. If you wanna play Pokemon as a teambuilder with a team of 6, just play a difficulty romhack where you can actually lose and there are level limits and your team is easy to build. Playing an official game is never going to be a difficult task, your team is never going to be challenged, your starter is always going to be over leveled and able to steam roll everything unless you purposely try not to use it at all and/or box it, and Exp. All makes the game even easier than when people just had a level 70+ starter at the point in the game where everything else is level 50. Pic related. So I stopped playing Pokemon after Gold because it's just a game where you use your starter to steamroll everything. But during covid I played the games I skipped. In this one, I specifically benched my starter and I tried to keep my teams evenly leveled. These were just a bunch of Pokemon I didn't even know existed. Like Togekiss, I had no idea that Togepi got a new evolution, and I liked the sound it made. Nothing was difficult at all, ever, and the friendship mecahnics make the game even easier than it already is. Even the doubles battle tower was easy because Togekiss can just flinch everything down and has friendship mecahnics boost.
I am the guy who asked in the first place>>3944645I had a rotation of 12, but I didn't have time for that shit and said fuckit bc I was in college at the time.>>3944695>. Maybe babby's first JRPG,Mario Rpg series is better as a babby's first Jrpg my guy.>it's still an iconic series and every has a favorite Pokemon or a few that they likeStatic sprites and iv/ev bullshit, nothing iconic about that, the manga was more iconic.>AFK steamroll a game with your starter though.Like I said earlier had to have a good rotation to get through stadium and online battles later on.>>3944822>3944738>>3944906>>3944943>>3944927Most people during gen 4 had a shit ton for online boutsyou sound zoomish right now. Stop suggesting romhacks, how about playing better JRPGS than this trite shit. > Gyarados, but he ended up becoming partly an HM slave.That's why I had a rotation, for stadium, you sound like a white girl in diaper.>>3944906>>3944935yeah, man I had rotations because you had to have many dudes to get through stadium, six wasn't going to cut it.
>>3944999>the manga was more iconic.I don't think you know what iconic means
>>3944999>Mario Rpg series is better as a babby's first Jrpg my guy.A *better* babby's first JRPG? Maybe. But Pokemon is babby's first JRPG. It just is. It's targeted towards children. >Static sprites and iv/ev bullshit, nothing iconic about thatPokemon is indeed very iconic. It's the single highest grossing franchise, of anything, of all time. It's just a fact. >Most people during gen 4 had a shit ton for online boutsNot talking about online, anon. >you sound zoomish right now.Nope. I'm in my 30s. I played the original Pokemon when it came out as a kid. >Stop suggesting romhacksWhy? I was originally responding to someone who didn't understand why so many people have Pokemon on their list. To be honest, I don't either, and I didn't put Pokemon on mine. It's not engaging as a JRPG, either by story or by gameplay, but if someone wants to play Pokemon as a purely gameplay and teambuilding JRPG, they should play a difficulty romhack like Radical Red or Elite Emerald (Redux). I never was suggesting Pokemon in and of itself. >how about playing better JRPGS than this trite shit. Sure, I agree with that. I said in my first post that official Pokemon is not engaging as a JRPG. That's why I recommended a difficulty romhack if someone wants to see what Pokemon can be, but isn't in any official capacity. >you sound like a white girl in diaper.What? I don't even think you can read, anon. If you can read, you don't have very good reading comprehension. I don't even understand how my original post has turned into people shitting themselves about this and somehow misunderstanding what I even said in the first place.
>>3943813Tactics ogre, heard that you can go evil route for that game too so thats a plus>>3944906Problem with difficulty romhacks is they are all bullshit until you can access said tools and some locks them at mid-lategameIf you want me to fight a memegon sun team with blaziken speed boost on top of level cap and bullshit AI that input reads (tested with save states hundreds times to prove it) at least before that fight give me nature changer/much better held item not just shitty mystic water. I don't want most of the boss fights devolves to "use sleep powder on their lead, switch to gyrados/liligant spam DD/dance 3-4x hope they 1v6"
>>3945121>Problem with difficulty romhacks is they are all bullshit until you can access said tools and some locks them at mid-lategamePlay Elite Emerald Redux. You get everything right at the beginning.
>>3945121>you can go evil route for that game too so thats a plusYou heard wrong.
>>3941796It's better graphically than anything on ps1 that doesn't use pre-renders. The music is great. FF is memorable also cause it's the most popular series by far.
>>3945058>It's targeted towards children.it's low quality no one under 12 is really figuring out the inner workings>. It's the single highest grossing franchise, of anything,wide spread reach other things didn't get at the time. >Not talking about online, anon.back then they were, I couldn't go anywhere without anyone talking about iv/evs>y Pokemon as a purely gameplay and teambuilding JRPGnah, gamefreak needs to be exposed as shit so they play it as is. Titles shouldn't be this easy to hack and make fangames of.>>3945137>It's better graphically than anything on ps1 that doesn't use pre-renders.nah, Megaman legends and the Arale game look way better than legend of dragoon. Also majority of the end dungeons were pre-rendered.
pokemon is a tranny game and if you still like or play it in 2026 you are an imbecile with dogshit taste.there i said it. now move on.
Here is mine. Great site, I love how intuitive and user friendly it is. Thanks for sharing it anon.My list is in order of preference, not simply 25 mixed games. I thought hard about it. There's a chance I'm not recalling some games that would bump others off the list.
>>3946981Final Fantasy IV should say IV DS, that's where the image is from but the text doesn't reflect that. The DS version adds so much to it and makes it perfect, similar to the GBA version of VI. More content, superbosses, quality of life. I don't mind the compressed visuals or audio - the content is infinitely better on the portable editions and it's a shame they didn't make the pixel remasters as the definitive versions. Maybe they will re-re-relase other editions in the future. They probably will because that means more money, and people obviously want them.
>>3946983Yeah, annoyingly FFIII and IV remakes doesn't show up as "Final Fantasy IV (2007)" or something like that. The DS remakes are less new versions of the games a la WSC/GBA/PSP/PR and are outright new games. But the official titles don't include the work remake, so you just have to know based on boxart.
>>3946983The definitive version of 4 is the SNES version, hope this helps.
>>3947039It's really not though. I owned that growing up, still might have a copy somewhere, and I also played the DS version emulated (bought and later sold it) and it is absolutely the better of the two. It's more challenging and adds more content. The SNES version is A-tier, the DS version is S-tier. You get more to do in the game, better mechanics, and superbosses.
A single Fails entry on your list invalidates it and brands your taste shit.
>>3947039Not at all.
>>3946981Excellent tastes my friend! Too bad, about the golden sun cliff hanger.
>>3946981I want to like 7th Saga so much, I just don't. The random encounter radar is cool, the way it zooms into and presents the fights are cool, fighting your competitors is cool, being betrayed is cool, it's all cool, I just don't like it in practice though. Apparently the original Japanese game is better (not as punishing, enemy stats lower or something), but I haven't tried it.
>>3932765I like this board because every time I go on here I see some cool-looking JRPG I've never seen before and now I wanna try them all out.
>>3932765>>3933198>>3943123I notice the Johto games in particular are very frequently favored by people that actually play a wide variety of JRPGs.Emerald also appears more often than other games in the series.HGSS happens to be my favorite with Emerald not far behind. This makes me feel good about my taste.
>>3947445Not in any particular order by the way, except for the top 4.
>>3947445I forgot Brain Lord existed. I really liked that game as a kid.
>>3947309You need to emulate it and get the patched version then! I played it on SNES growing up and it was a grind-fest but that's what helped me learn to love doing the work in any RPG going forward. As a kid I obviously didn't know the Japanese version was less punishing in that regard, and so I was stuck playing the U.S. entry.It's really fun to try going through the game with different combinations of characters if you have the time to do so.There is also a sequel called Mystic Ark that was fan-translated which you can emulate. I actually have to go back and finish that, I only got partially through.
>>3947446>>3947451I forgot to consider Lufia II (the superior title) in my list. Brain Lord is great but wouldn't have made my top 25. The funny thing is there are so many great JRPGs at this point that it feels bad leaving many out, even when you're listing 25 or more of them.
>>3947306I'm dumb, I was sleep deprived and I knew I was missing some games that I love more than things I put on that list. I might even remake it if I feel like taking the time to figure out where the missing titles would fit.I forgot to list:Persona 3 FES (first Persona game ever and easily my favorite)Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey (Redux)Redux is better due to QoL and added content, but I did play the original initially and loved it.
>>3933529>hey gais this is /rec/ thread rite?Moraff's World unironically.
>>3932765i might be joking. maybe.search bugged out when i tired to search for Clickpocalypse 2.
>>3933529You like SRPGS right?How about >arc the lad collection (PLAY WITH A GUIDE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU)_> growlanser > disgaea/NIS seriesplay in order, no reallyFor starters?
>>3945121>Tactics ogre,it's "chaos", not evil. basically allows you to recruit the death knight guy and promote to death knight for your MC easier i think. at least for the SNES/PSX version.i think your male childhood frendo actually becomes evil in that route for no reason.
>>3943232yes. STALKER is an eastern RPG.
>>3943098hello fellow Yggdra Union enjoyer out 5 players on this board.
>>3948636Why play with a guide?
>>3943098>>3948642Sell me Yggdra Union
>>3948684SRPG will collectables you need to unlock postgame stuff that will be impossible to find unless you're extremely autisitical or just read a walkthrough.and GENOCIDE!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMUzZr1rdd8
>>3948719https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIuUPohISrcdubbed GENOCIDE.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z46AjfVEkwgmore GENOCIDE.
>>3948719>AutisticalI like your ability to utilize the language to expand our lexical prowess. 100 Kekkels to your E-Faggot Bank Account.
>>3932765i only started playing jrpgs in the last couple of years (aside from pokemon) so my taste is still developing.
>>3948646>Arc 1There are easily missable items you never acquire again . >I.E. Romancing stone no.3 from Arc's mailbox that the story doesn't tell you to get.>Silk Scarf from forest spirit etc.Not going through the Forbidden ruins you can miss a valuable party member >Arc2can miss missions Side quests are a plenty and will upgrade certain charactersnot playing arc arena will have you under leveled for a final boss It was made during the era in which they were trying to sell strat guides.
>>3949011you sound zoomish
>>3949034I have all 3 downloaded ready to emulate. I never got to play them when they were originally released. I've actually been looking for a new JRPG to play so maybe I'll choose to try this series. I have some others I never played too, but Arc The Lad is very appealing. I'll make sure to follow something from GameFAQs. Any guide in particular you suggest?I loved having strategy guides back in the day. I had them for nearly every SNES JRPG I played, and a bunch of PSX ones. I think I got rid of them years ago though, or they're in limbo at a family member's house, idc.
>>3949063Yeah I played in 2002, and it honestly made me quit pokemon altogether.https://web.archive.org/web/20190728102602/http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/cgamingden/ArcHelp/ArcOnehelp.htmlhere you go!!!!!I don't have an exact one for twoAlso some other tips >level everyone except chongara and kukuru, everyone is a permanent character and they carry over. There are going to be sections where you need to split up, and you are going to be fucked if they aren't leveled.>In early battles waste poco's mphave him do just anything every turn like boosting attacking/speed/etc he gains exp by that>train at the dojo>get that third romancing stone, it is mixable>save all your revival tonics for the 50 lvl dungeonthey revive your dudes at full MP, just Kukuru revive everyone when they run out of MP and when she runs out of Mp kill her off and use the tonic.Arc II>talk to everyone>don't be in a hurry to progress with the storygo to hunter's guild and do missions, they really add to the game>have Lieza catch as many monsters as you can indiscriminatelythe arena will give you better monsters, and once you complete the monster only section it will allow you to enter party members which makes for easily leveling. People bitch about the level curve but this circumvents any grinding.>Shante on Palancia islandYou are going to have shante alone on Palencia islandat a certain point, follow these directionsFrom the entrance, go Up, Down, Right, Right, Left, Left, Up, and Up.>be sure to talk to the character every time they stop>)Re-enter the forest. From the entrance, go Up four screens. This will take you to the graveyard, where you must read the front AND back of the lower-rightmost tombstone. Leave the forest.
OH I forgot one thing ABUSE THE ARENA, DOWNLOAD THAT IF YOU HAVEN'T>catch 12 of any old bullshit>enter it in the arena >the arena will give you better monsters and gear for winning >keep fighting till you can enter your party members>EASY LEVELING bc the monsters your fight will be 50 lvls higher than you >LEGENDARY GEAR I was lvl 130 something by the end of the game and made the final boss my bitch.All of the reviewers say that there is a level curve in game, and that you have to grind. NOT WITH THIS KNOWLEDGE.
>>3933529ALSO NIS series Play in ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously, the mechanics start off really rough and get cleaned up gradually. It's harder to go back.start with>rhapsody>la pucelleplay the psp version or PC>disgaeapc or psp>phantom bravepc or wii>Makai kingdompsp>disgaea 2\pc or psp>prinny can I be the hero?>soul nomad>disgaea 3Vita version or PC>prinny can I be the hero? 2>Zettai hero project>disgaea 4>disgaea D2>disgaea 5
>>3948719>SRPG WITH collectables you need to unlock postgame stuff...
>>3943528You anons got some recs for me? Not really sure what to play atm.
>>3932765Could be worse. At least only 3 of them aren't jrpg. Lufia 2 and Wild Arms are the most obvious missing entries. Also SMT Strange Journey if you want to extend to the subgenre of dungeon crawlers.
>>3949148Virus Total flags that link as malicious for anybody wondering.
>>3949173>start with>>rhapsody>>la pucelle>play the psp version or PC>>disgaea>pc or psp>>phantom brave>pc or wii>>Makai kingdom>psp>>disgaea 2>\pc or psp>>prinny can I be the hero?>>soul nomad>>disgaea 3>Vita version or PC>>prinny can I be the hero? 2>>Zettai hero project>>disgaea 4>>disgaea D2>>disgaea 5I absolutely know what you are talking about here because I played Disgaea when it first came out, played Disgaea 5 in the past few years, and then went to go back to replay Disgaea 1 and 2. They are all good games but the lack of quality of life that plagues earlier entries is hyper-apparent.Is there a continuum for the story if you play in this order as well? If so I was never aware of that and it makes me want to play in the order you listed, so thank you anon. 50 blessings to you.
>>3949063I think following retroachievements should keep you from missing anything.
Alright gave up at the end and included srpg and arpg.
>>3950286I made my list of 25 the other night and felt foolish when I realized I didn't list Lufia II or Wild Arms. I did say that I was tired and very likely to forget stuff since I have so many games to draw memory from.I don't even feel right playing new games until I play the classics. I want to play Clair Obscur so badly it looks illuminating. The thing is I need time to go through the old spirits in order to appreciate the new.
>>3950307Eushully enjoyers are based.
25 are too many
>>3950283Anons please help me out. I need to a nice little adventure time sink.
>>3950525Had a lot of fun recently with The Nameless: Slay Dragon.>>3950321A shame the first officially translated game of theirs is a fucking snoozefest. Wayblazer Dammerung sucks chode compared to Kamidori.
Eushully has been shitting the bed. Their actual jrpg are all kind of crap. Their 'master' games are all decent but Alchemy Master is so much better the others are disappointing regardless. Arterial is the best card game with nothing else like it. Cards have levels and equipment. You capture cards by killing them with your leader card. 3 different routes with a bunch of heroines per route.
>>3950525Stranger of Paradise then Nioh 3 for action games.Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 Professional is the best one.Alchemy Master is the best SRPG. Streamlines things so well it's painful to go back to others. Drag mouse over path, click enemy.Etrian Odyssey Nexus makes the others look like a joke. It has all the classes and 14 stratum. SMT games are also good starting with Strange Journey, 4, 4a and 3.Dragon Quest Builders 2 is also 10/10 if you want minecraft with furniture and NPCs. Not jrpg though.
>>3950547Yeah, Arterial is my favorite of their games by far, and Kamidori Alchemy Meister was pretty fun, but everything else I've tried by them has been really disappointing.
>>3950305I remember coming across that site in the past. I don't necessarily achievement hunt. It's nice when it happens organically but I don't go out of my way for some of them. Ultimately I am okay leaving things not 100%, but it's nice to get close, at least in terms of video games.
>>3933307Seriously this site is like something somebody plucked an idea of from my mind-brain. I didn't even try it for other things yet but I see it has shows, games, music, etc. Same thing I would do on my Excel spreadsheets. =]Makes me want to learn to code. Whomever made this site is based AF.
>>3933334I never tried Metal Max games. I started Shining Force III and really want to play it some day down the line when I feel I have the time. Never heard of The Bard's Tale before.
>>3950550>Stranger of Paradise then Nioh 3 for action gamesplayed them>Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 Professionalthe best joker game maybe>Alchemy Masterisnt that weird porn gaem?>Etrian Odyssey Nexus I actually wanted Etrian V to be X. Didnt really like V. Gonna fix that eventually.>Strange Journey, 4, 4a and 3.played them all. Dont really like SMT.>Dragon Quest Builders 2dont like minecraftAppreciate the effort!
>>3950663>isnt that weird porn gaem?Yes but also it's legitimately excellent.
>>3950666It's that game Sseth made a video about right? With that weird bowling ball analogy right?
>>3950666alright anon. i give it a go. hope its alright.
>>3950525>adventure time sink.moraff's world and chocobo dungeron 2.
>>3950620Bard's Tales was a famous CRPG series inspired by Dungeons & Dragons. The Famicom version is a "port" of the first game but rather than a port it's its own game really and I feel it's like a middle ground between CRPG and JRPG. if you're interesting in that version, go with the fan translated Famicom version and not the officially released US NES version which was butchered (half the enemies are missing and more)
>>3950663The porn is there but like, it’s surprisingly minimal at times? Like you can legit just play the game for hours and not have anything come up. I find it shows up A- if you’re deliberately looking for it of course, but B- usually in chunks where you’re unlocking new content later in the story. >>3950666To be clear - I like the game a ton. I’ve played through it twice (Yuela then Emilita), and there’s a lot of things that are really great about it. And a small number of things that I think hold it back from being a 10/10. Some of the quests are legitimate dogshit - there’s a lot of resource collection ones where you just straight up have to know what you need and have it stockpiled already (which can be an arduous process for some resources) because there’s zero chance you’re getting everything you need within their time limits. I find the stories are pretty weak when you get to the ends of them (maybe Elf’s route is better but I really doubt it giving how she’s generally the most boring out of the three). There’s some post-game dungeons that are a pain in the ass too, but I can’t really blame that because they are supposed to be extra challenging content. Leveling characters up enough to do them properly is a tedious and unfun process too - even with the deadbeat dungeon. One thing I really liked about the game was how characters progress. There’s spikes in people’s progression where you can really feel units becoming powerful, and even the ones that are generally weaker still have times and fights where they really shine except the fish guy he’s always kinda bad actually. Dragon comes in underpowered too, but he does do some pretty good stuff at the higher end of things
>>3951049Those quests you can miss aren't really important. One gives you a bowling ball, a melee weapon for the mage. Sure you could use this but you really don't want to be meleeing with them.All the newgame+ dungeons are what makes this one better than the other Master games. They have elements and if you aren't immune to them you will take the corresponding status effect constantly. Characters have elements so varying immunity and the main cast all have equipment that also has varying immunity. Or you can just spam healing and status cure items. Each of these dungeons gives crafting recipes that help do a different one.What I like best is that characters learn a ton of skills but you can only have 4 available at a time. Equipment gives skills but also has elemental properties so varying usage. Then there are skills that combine multiple skills and the last equipment you get as rare drops from all those newgame+ level 90 dungeons is character specific accessories that give a bunch of skills.The whole thing is godly mechanically.
>>3951049Let me spoil the elf route for you: It's the most boring of the three because elves fucking suck and I don't give a shit about pollution.
>>3951062the bowling ball is really good.....the str difference is enough that it makes her good even as a mage, it gives 20 hp, increased crit, comes with a 2-3 range special, and even has an instant death chance. It's not for all situations, but as an option it really does let Suina do a whole lot more (and being able to hit physically against magically resistant enemies is pretty broadening for her too)
>>3950294>Is there a continuum for the story if you play in this order as well? YES, YES AND THOUSAND TIMES YES!>Characters get mentioned constantly from previous titles >Special Guest appearances you can really appreciate after playing their games.You wouldn't believe how many were apparent in the prinny games. AA main character from Disgaea one is integral to the plot of two. Also a character from disgaea 4 had a dlc storyline in NIS's new action rpg.
>>3951078>I don't give a shit about pollution.post hand so we can see how dark you are.
>>3933183What is your definition of "JRPG" exactly?
>>3952211Why do you care
>>3952211an RPG that you wouldn't post in a WRPG thread
>>3934128>Final Fantasy XVIwhat the fuck
>>3932765looks ass brodo you people actually like chrono trigger and final fantasy? or is it just nostalgia slop
>>3953326You don't know enough to say anything in this thread
>>3953351thats a good thing!
Any anons able to comment on Disgaea 7? I bought a switch 2 recently so I was thinking about buying the complete version for it.
>>3953417Better than 6, but still not as good as the previous Disgaea games overall other than the QoL stuff
>>3953326>>3953363>slopi swear 99 percent of people who "slop" anything popular are zoomers or AI bots.
>>3952635i will do WRPGs now.inb4 western SPRGs are not RPGs.
>>3954172well it's a topic about JRPG not a RPG one.It's 4chan though
Any recommendations?
>>3954770yeah read the thread dickweed
>>3954770Not a bad list but Lost Judgment seems to be a standard action-adventure and beat 'em up style game, not a JRPG.
>>3954770Since I just finished it, how about Shadow Hearts?By the way, I take it there's now a complete fan translation of Valkyria Chronicles 3? I've been meaning to play it, but I am pretty out of touch with fan translations and what has and has not finally been finished.
>>3954813>Since I just finished it, how about Shadow Hearts?Thanks, going to give it a try.>By the way, I take it there's now a complete fan translation of Valkyria Chronicles 3?The translation of the main game has been finished for a while now, but I'm not sure about the DLC maps - most of them were still JP only when I played the game in 2018 IIRC.
>>3954822>20182019*
>>3954770>Lost Judgementis that a SMAP RPG?
>>3954822ANYBODY WHO CALLS FOR A BREAST REDUCTION IS A COMMUNIST AND A SAVAGE IDIOT!
>>3944239we have a lot of games in common, "mang"but i see many stinkers. Dragon snore is bad (dragon quest), Dragon smegma is also bad.
