>There's nothing left for me. No place to return to, nobody to love, and nothing to believe in... Nothing... but Demons... ...I will become a demon... In doing so, I shall teach humanity the folly of their selfishness! From now on... I am no longer Oersted... I am... Live a Live thread!
Is that how you're supposed to read it? Live A Live? What about Live A Evil?I thought Live A Live was an anime.
I really enjoyed the game when I played it couple of years ago. But I never managed to fully beat it, I got to the final part where you gather up everyone to fight the final boss, and I did, then just ran out of steam.
>>3935659Red's campaign is fucking awesome
>That Alethea sceneIs Takashi Tokita an NTRfag or something?
Do you still need to avoid looting in the Oersted chapter for the remake? I remember thinking that was stupid.>>3935683The personal stories are better than the big final one anyway. I think a lot of them have traps in them that trick you into thinking you need to farm the shit out of them (or otherwise play in a tedious way) when in reality it's pointless after like 5 minutes in the combined chapter, and that can take some wind out of your sails
>>3935657This is one of my fav old jarpigs that i really want to see a sequel but part of me thinks current squenix has 0 chance to do it properlyWish some indie devs take a look at this game and make something like it instead of another indie game inspired by old FF #763>>3935659At least he had the balls to kill his weak ass friend instead of running away crying like average ntr protags
>>3935671Live a Live
>>3935772>Do you still need to avoid looting in the Oersted chapter for the remake?Nah they restocked the castle, among other things they did for the sake of qol.
>>3935657I like to name protags after myself for max rpg comfyness.Who is considered the actual MC in this game?
>>3936473You play as several people, you cant really determine who's the "real" MC.However, truly spoilers for the game:You choose the final character to play as for the final chapter. You get few bonus scenes at the end depending on who you chose, so technically you can just choose whoever you want to be "you" since you can just pick them for the final sections.But I really recommend just going with either custom names for everyone or default names, this is the kind of game where that adds up to the experience.
>>3936490I see.I know who is the cuck and the childish in me wants to name him that lol.
>>3936490I'd say the wrestler is probably the one that "feels" like he would be a main character in a story like this to me, but like you say it's just whoever you want
>>3935671I think it's live a life, but moonruners are retarded.
>>3935657So graphics aside how was the remake? It's always hard to get a read on this since so few played the original.
>>3936785runs at 30fpsgenerally easierfull voice acting
>>3936785Pretty good. Even people who love the original like me, will fully admit it was filled to the brim with flaws because it was a B-project by the team in-between working on Chrono Trigger. The remake is basically the same game but isn't using FF4 graphics anymore and is a little less frustrating for reasons I listed below.>>3936789>generally easierIt's "easier" in that it will actually tell you shit like what element an enemy is weak to, how much damage moves actually do, etc instead of hiding all that information. That is actually way more important than the QOL stuff that was added.Regardless, some fights are still complete bullshit where even if you know exactly what to do, there's RNG involved to win like the King Mammoth.
>>3936785I'd honestly just play it for the soundtrack.
>>3936785I think it is way better than the original, might be closer to the original vision for the game if it wasn't in a weak cartridge.>>3937115I think they should have added info on what stats each attack uses and maybe the ability to see the element of enemy attacks. The game is still easy for the most part if you know what to do.
Worst hero in the game btw
>>3937650I'd say it's a toss up between him and the ninja, since that one barely has a personality at all
>>3937650He's a decent support character with all the AoE attacks with debuffs he has and is the only other character that you can use as a dedicated healer if you don't want to take Cube.
>>3937798>if you don't want to take Cube.If you don't want to take Cube I can't trust you as a person
>>3937808Having to ditch near future anime protagonist man's accessories to equip him properly is a bit of a flaw. Actually maybe the remake changed that, I don't rememberEither way just two of the better offensive ones like the monk and cowboy are probably enough anyway
>>3937808I have never seen anyone that doesn't take Cube for the final party, he's just that good.>>3937809In the remake you get to keep all of your inventory and not just the equipment so you can keep Akira with his normal equipment and also keep the robot accesories. You do lose any items equipped on Matsu or Taro and all of your robotic enhancements.
>>3937650>>3937687>worst heroes are the two japanese onesWhat did the nipponjin mean by this?
>>3937851Wasn't modern day street fighter guy was also Japanese? I guess I can't prove Cube didn't have some components in there either.
>>3937852He became an honorary american when he had a 5-star classic against Hulk Hogan
>>3937852He's also bottom tier.
>>3938171He's kind of interesting to me. All the others feel like they're overcoming some warped human desire, but he never really does when you consider his ending bit. The only difference from him and his villain is he didn't kill the guys afterwards.I still like basically every other one other than the psychic and the ninja more though. To be fair though, in the ninja's defense he sort of has to be a blank slate given the chapter's kill count gimmick. He could either be a psycho killing everything in his path or an extreme pacifist.
The only girl
>>3938180I think the wrestling was done out of practicality. They needed a modern day era one and probably didn't have too much left to make it so just get all the fighters in a room and off ya go. if given more of a chance and budget I wonder what else would be possible. I'd have done a 70s style cop adventure myself
>>3938370Which incidentally means I almost always pick her over the other two>>3938371A buddy cop chapter could have been good. Another guy with a pistol might have been a little redundant with the cowboy for the final chapter though. Maybe a war story instead?
>>3938370The best choice. Only mistake you can make is training all pupils equally thinking they'll make a team later on. Don't ask how I know.
>>3938370Funny how the game tries to push Yun as the successor but everyone picks Lei because she is the only girl.
>>3938587I dunno, I think Lei is a perfectly good successor. She had the anger which I think is a bit thematic for later on,
Is Hong any good? No one picks him over the other two
>>3935659>>3935657>NTR the demonthis was KINO journey.>>3935817>instead of running away crying like average ntr protagshe also tried to destroy the multiverse for no reason except he's a big emo fag.
>>3939219>Hong any good?fatter tanker. but can't tank as well as not-StreetFighter or Cube(once fully upgraded).lacking in a ranged attack but IIRC he got a decent AOE attack unlike the other 2.
>>3938587i mean the choice is >bandit A looking guy>kungfu girl that shown to be the most competent out of 3 even though shifu steamrolls her>fatfucki wasn't even playing with waifu mindset because other mcs are all dudes already but game was basicly screams pick the damn girl at 200% volume to me
>>3939249>>bandit A looking guybased on HK kungfu actor guy which i forgot the name of. he was also in Heroes of Zu Mountain movie.>>kungfu girl that shown to be the most competent out of 3 even though shifu steamrolls hergeneric kungfu chick. also "bandit A" has the most balanced stats and the most powerful attack (Sengazanken)does the most damage with those balanced stats.>>fatfuckit's fucking Sammo Hung. watch more oldie kungfu flicks, you pleb.
>>3939262>generic kungfu chick.https://lostinlocalization.com/live-a-live-shifu/according to blog: the girl is a reference to Goku, Bruce Lee, Kensama from FOTNS AND Tekken's Wulong.
>>3939271I would have guessed more Angela Mao
>>3939219IIRC:Yun starts the weakest, but has the best scaling.Lei starts strong, ends strong, has extra benefits in final chapter.Hong starts strong, but his stats are all wrong for the skills he inherits.
I hate that I don't like playing the mecha chapter
>>3939664don't be gay. collect the panties.
>>3935697Alkaiser was my favorite. I played that game so much. Remaster too. That new uber boss is insane. I don't think I quite beat it, I got tired of grinding but I was right there. I know it can be done, just dropped it at that point because it's a matter of priority with my time. Still... Such a great game. Red's storyline is indeed the best.
>>3939674It's just kind long and not the best paced
>>3939694So is the caveman chapter, but something about the mecha one puts me off more.
>>3939730I think Caveman made better use of it's gimmick.
So was Oersted the asshole? Could this all have been avoided if he just stepped aside once in a while? Streighbough was clearly a petty psychotic asshole so he probably would have lost his shit over something else eventually and there's no excuse for being a backstabber but I guess everyone was a pretty huge dick.
>>3940165>but I guess everyone was a pretty huge dick.everyone betrayed him after Straybow tricked him.then again, he could have just keked everyone who got in his way and just crown himself the new king. but NOOOOO, he just had to becum the demonlord of the multiverse and destroy everything in the name of Odio!!!!
>>3940165I think his only real flaw is he never thought to figure out what what's-her-name actually wanted. Straybow was a cunt
>>3940184She was given him all sorts of flowery words of devotion and love.
>>3940165All his actions make sense considering what happened...then he wants to cause shit in other timelines for 0 reason and gainremaster tries to make sense of this in the boring way odio took control of his body which he managed to break free in remaster only final boss form>>3939262i'm shit at remembering chink names, did a quick google search turns out he plays the crime boss in one of my fav chink movie
>>3940192Sammo is a pretty easy name to remember and he's like one of the most famous guys in the genre
>>3940250>>3940192Sammo was in the same generation of kungfu actors/stuntmen with jackie chan.biggest difference(other than fats) is that Sammo didn't constantly KEK his wife like jackie the cuckster.
>>3940649>KEKlol i can't say the c word now?
>>3940650cunt?
>>3938587Lei has the best final speech by far
>>3940816Wrong, Cube has the best one
>>3940776official name of the "Knight" in OP pic and this meme >>3935659https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COgJIBrCv94
Oersted did nothing wrong
Ideas for a potential sequel? Could one even work?
>>3941577Not really. Characters are basically prototype ideas for games that weren't fleshed out enough for proper release. By that strict logic anything could be a sequel if you stick to that setup. Hell, Octopath Traveler games are spiritual successors that were saddled with a bloated shared world instead of being tight character scenarios.
>>3937650Leave my low tier MC alone!!
>>3937650He's also the most popular hero in Japan by far, they should have buffed him a bit more
>>3941821It was kind of an odd choice to have the hot blooded one be the healer, but within the confines of the other character's settings and roles I guess there wasn't much choice
>>3941828>hot blooded one be the healerI'm pretty sure that was the radical idea behind him.
>>3941821>He's also the most popular hero in Japan by fargrim
>>3941821Popular enough to get a manga of his chapter made by the original artisthttps://archive.org/details/nearfuturecol1/Vol.%201/https://archive.org/details/nearfuturecol2/mode/2up
>>3941583>prototype ideas for gamesmost of them are genre parodies. you're retarded or a dumbbot account.
>>3941828>hot blooded one be the healer,psyker powers are magic. and other than him, there's only the cuck hero and ninja who can do magicky thing.
>>3941577A direct sequel wouldn't work
>>3941577If we try and use the idea of short stories taking place in different times... Well, most of these aren't times but moreso general theming.>Viking>Greek/Roman>Egyptian>Modern Day focused on modern military with some kind of supernatural twist>50s Noir>Warring Kingdoms>AliensSomeone can probably think of better ideas on that front than me. As for how to tie them all together, it'd be tempting to do Odio again given the game ends with the warning Odio can always appear. But it'd end up being pretty predictable. Could maybe have each chapter focus on one of the 7 Deadly Sins, but that can also be rather played out as a theme.All in all Live-a-Live works so well because it feels so one-of-a-kind and it'd be hard to recapture that feel with the knowing expectation that comes with sequels.
Was Live a Live inspired by Bahumut Lagoon?
>>3947790Considering it's 2 years older than Bahamut Lagoon, probably not.
>>3947791>probably notSo you're saying there's a chance
>>3947791So Lagoon is a more fleshed out version of Live.
>>3947790>>3947791>>3947792both have cucks. the end.
>>3947855In Live the cuck is redeemed, in BL the cuck stays cucked.
>>3947867>the cuck is redeemedpretty sure the princess stays ded and loved the straybow.
>>3949278>princess stays ded>princess dedYes that is the only way a cuck can be redeemed.
Just played through the game MY THOUGHTSPrehistoric: Pretty good. I just wish they either let you have Zaki earlier or let you fight the King Mammoth with BeruChina: I think it needed like a middle segment where the Sifu sends out all the students on their own little individual playable sections so you get to know them a little better before you choose one. Also Odi Wan Lee and the Indomitable Fist could have had more of a presence earlier in th story instead of coming out of nowhere to be the villains for the climaxEdo Japan: Just needed more ways to get from one part of the maap to another so it's not so easy to lose track of were you're going I thinkWild West: I think this really needed a middle segment. Like Sundown and Mad Dog track the outlaw guy from the beginning back to his gang's hideout, like abandoned mine or something as a traditional dungon for the segment, then you learn they're attacking the town at sunrise and so you go back and prepare for itPresent day: I dunno, it's a cool setting and I wanted more of it but I get that it's basically street fighter in RPG form. One cool idea I read on reddit is that one of your opponents should have been an Earthen Heart student so you get a better sense of the interconnection of the timeline and the sifu's legacy lives on into the presentNear Future: Could have used a darker aesthetic I think. Like cyberpunk biker gangs kidnapping orphans so they can be liquefied to resurrect a god is kinda dark but it never really feels that wayFar future: Weakest chapter IMO, you just go around watching scenes play out on their own for the most part. I get that the point was to be the chapter without any combat, but boy it would have been kinda cool to have like an Aliens thing going on with a whole bunch of lose aliens on the ship as enemies with Darthe and Kato as your party members. Cube could have still been a pure support character with no weapons until the fight with OD-10.
>>3949871>liquefied to resurrect a god is kinda dark but it never really feels that waywatch more /m/?also talk about THE KEK scenario.
>>3935657I fucking hate how they translated the medieval chapter with over flowery dialogue and changed the names of everyone for some reason. Like, take Oersted's final line in the best ending, it's so simple but that's what makes it so effective, "anyone can become a demon king with enough hate", the remake decided to make it so obtuse in comparison. I don't really mind the translation in the rest of the chapters but they did Lucrecia dirty.
>>3950025>I fucking hate how they translated the medieval chapter with over flowery dialogue and changed the names of everyone for some reasonSad! Many such cases
>>3950032>Sad! Many such casesAlas! A sorrowful state of affairs. Verily, such occurrences are not uncommon.
>>3950025>"anyone can become a demon king with enough hate"Hark, good sir! Know ye that even the most common of men, fueled by a heart brimming with malice and a spirit consumed by adultery, may ascend to the very station of a Demon King. Such is the grim power that hatred doth wield.
>>3937650>>3937798The funny thing is Akira was actually buffed in the remake, he was substantially shittier in the original. And yet he's still the worst character mechanically.Thankfully, battles in his chapter are less battles and more puzzles so it isn't as big of a deal.>>3937808I love Cube as a character but I think he has the weakest chapter because once you've played the game already (the game is so short it begs for multiple playthroughs), all the mystery is gone and it's legit a walking simulator where there's no actual tension because the Behemoth only shows up in a few places.
>>3949871>or let you fight the King Mammoth with BeruIt would completely trivialize the fight. Don't get me wrong, that fight is complete and total bullshit and deserves to be cheesed, but I'm just saying.
>>3950025Considering how much of a heavy hand Tokita had in remaking his game, I have to assume that at least on some level he approved of it. I mean he went as far as having Kageyama sing the Buriki Daioh theme in both languages instead of telling us to just hear it in Japanese even though Kageyama really can't sing in english well.
