What's the best game out of these 4?
>>3947526I presume you're asking the question because of a monetary constraint that will only let you purchase 1.In that case, Get Octopath and emulate PS1 SO2, SNES Live a Live, and either GBC or SNES DQ3
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>>3947526Live a Live
>>3947526You can play all of these quite easily via Switch emulation. SO2 or Live A Live are the best.
>>3947526Octopath II is best and its not close
>>3948589Correct, and I liked the other three a lot as well. Live-A-Live is the worst simply because the quests are all too fucking short. I really liked it otherwise.Dragon Quest III is better because I like turn-based and it's more challenging. Star Ocean is piss easy, especially the remaster. I still love it.Octopath II is fantastic. Anybody who dislikes either Octopath is a contrarian retard.
>>3947526SO2 > DQ3 > LAL > Octopath
>>3947526Personally my enjoyment was Live A Live > Star Ocean > Dragon Quest > Octopath 2. I liked all of them though.
>>3948728Anybody who likes Octopath is a contrarian retard.Can't even justify your liking of a generic, cliche-ridden JRPG made by a company known for its stories with a barebones job-system.
>>3947578>You can play all of these quite easily via Switch emulation.For god's sake, why? Just play the all on PC
>>3949362If you don't want to buy them, it's an easy way to get around Denuvo.
>>3949365But anon... none of those have Denuvo anymore. If anything Squeenix has been consistent with removal after whatever X period lapses.
>>3949419>But anon... none of those have Denuvo anymore.If that's true, then play them on PC. It wasn't true when I played them though.
SO2>>>>Mediocrity>DQ3>>>OT2>>>>>>>LAL
>>3948589>>3948728I hated Octopath. I'd rather have one interesting storyline than eight generic storylines. Also the gameplay is too grindy.
>>3948728>Anybody who dislikes either Octopath is a contrarian retard.Nah. Octopath is really just a zoomer's idea of what an "old skool" JRPG would be like. It's just pixels and sidequests and random encounters strung together with soulless modern conveniences like voiced cutscenes and objective markers. It feels like they were trying to follow a recipe that had a list of ingredients, but no amounts or methods by which to properly combine them.
I never play OT1 but 2 is fine
>>3950451>the gameplay is too grindyWhenever someone complains about a mainstream JRPG made beyond the early 90s as being "grindy", I generally just assume they're retarded and/or suck at JRPGs.
>>3947539>ps1 so2Why? Psp version is better
>>3950559I think it's the worst version because while the bug fixes are nice the shitty cropped screen, bad art, and changes to combat all bring it down.
>>3950493Have you played the game? The encounter rate is high and the amount of money and exp you get is low. If you want to keep all eight characters properly leveled and equipped you are going to be doing a lot of generic battles against the same enemies over and over.
>>3947526Probably DQ3 objectively but Live-A-Live is a personal favorite of mine. I fucking love that game, man.Though I'd recommend playing the SNES/SFC version of both, or the GBC version of DQ3. The remakes aren't bad per se, I'd say about on par as a whole (there's ups and downs for both) but it saves money and they're fine games on their own right without the new bells and whistles.I also liked the other two but have no history with SO2 so I can't speak to its old versions.
>>3950451being grindy is the least important of Octopath problems you're right with your first point of its generic storylines, where Octopath II fans will keep gaslighting you by saying it's way better than the 1st when it's actually not. Thus why I call them "shills" since they can't actually justify their praises
>>3950779The mage dudes get encounter down very early into their skill trees.Gear matters more than levelsThere is no need to gear all 8 members at once until the superboss and at that, you should have done most if not all of the sidequests in the game.
>>3950779>Have you played the game?Yes. Most of the time, I went out of my way to avoid encounters to stay underleveled, and purposefully explored dungeons that were 5-10 levels above my own, because that was the only way the game was challenging enough to be fun. Of course, I'd also find super strong equipment by doing that, and since exp gains were weighted, I'd also level up multiple times after beating one of those super hard bosses.If you don't suck, the game practically does grinding for you. All you have to do is actually learn the strengths of your party and exploit enemy weaknesses. In Octopath 2 especially, every party member has so much utility that most of them could clear out any random encounter by themselves.
>>3948728>Anybody who dislikes either Octopath is a contrarian retard.Nah. I'm an oldfag who grew up playing all the great JRPGs. Octopath is just really annoying to play. The brave/default system is usually just an annoyance, but it's extremely annoying in Octopath and turns random battles into chores that feel even worse than random battles normally feel. I didn't particularly like any of the Octopath characters except Primrose. I thought her story was by far the best one, but even then it was only just decent, and the individual character arcs are not good enough to carry the rest of the game. I thought Octopath 1 was so annoying to play through that I didn't even play Octopath II. It's like they turned an "old school JRPG" into a Bethesda game.
>>3951290>it's extremely annoying in Octopath and turns random battles into chores that feel even worse than random battles normally feel.2 has the opposite problem where you can quickly get to a point of ending random battles before they get a turn.It's shit all around so you were right to drop it at the first game.
>>3951290Primrose was actually a cool concept of a character (albeit with a so-so execution), despite the overall game being underwhelming.Octopath II doesn't have that kind of niche, all bland milquetoast characters.
>>3951380The problem with the characters in Octopath is that they never react to what is happening in other characters' stories. One character can watch their best friend die right in front of them and the other three characters have absolutely nothing to say.
>>3951366>2 has the opposite problem where you can quickly get to a point of ending random battles before they get a turn.This was one of the biggest downgrades in 2, imo. It feels like they were catering to retards who can't into party composition, so they basically made EVERY character capable of doing EVERYTHING. Some games have the issue where certain characters are so niche/specialized that you often just skip their turn because there's nothing they can do, but in Octopath 2, every character has so much they can do, and it's all broken as shit that you start to just feel apathetic about it all. It's like they took modern trash sandbox gameplay where "EVERY SOLUTION IS CORRECT" and applied it to turn-based combat.
>>3947526Only played Octopath 2, SO2R, and DQ3R.My personal ranking would be SO2R=Octopath>DQ3RFound SO2R's combat system more enjoyable, while its approach to grinding is more convenient than Octopath. Story-wise, all three are enjoyable, though you can just feel the age of DQ3R with how straightforward and simple it is. I kept forgetting about trying Live a Live, so I guess I should do it soon.
>>3947526Octopath II is fucking great. Star Ocean is shit. I was playing Live A Live a couple of months ago, and it's so fucking bad I dropped it. Never played the Dragon Quest remake, but the original is great.
>>3947526Star ocean 2nd story > live a live > DQ3 > octopath 2
>>3948728>Octopath II is fantastic. Anybody who dislikes either Octopath is a contrarian retard.Octopath 1 was boring and the character stories never coalesce. I've heard that Octopath II and 0 are far better, though and will give them a shot at some point.
>>39537182 is only marginally better, and uses almost the exact same formula. If you disliked the first game, you probably won't enjoy 2 either.
Why cant see capture the magic of BD1? Like apparently that director isnt even making games anymore
>>3954012I wonder how can some OT2 fans who said they hate OT1 just flipped from a 6/10 to a mastahpiece, best jrpg ever.I was swayed by those words, only to be disappointed.
>>3954121It's generally easier.
