I'm currently playing it right now (finally) and oh my fucking God it's good. The negative reviews are greatly exaggerated. This sets a new standard for crpgs that we probably won’t ever see again from anybody besides Larian Studio. I think they found a niche here. What’s also interesting is why is BG3 more successful than Divinity? Is the lore just more interesting?
BG3 is shit and everyone that likes it is a retard.
>>3952178Along with various faggotry, following 5E setting with "subjective" good and evil and other atrocities developers had committed one of grave sins - they made all not completely evil humanoid characters bland ugly in faces while giving good looking and/or charismatic faces only to most villainous characters (3 main villains and main devil, even a fucking hug in human form has good-looking (for a granny) face), dindus demonic tieflings (but, mind you, not your party members), to drow (and again, when drow had been announced as a companion - her face was quickly uglyfied in a few steps over several patches) and some background "retarded ignorant nobles", that are conveniently placed behind colums in main hall not to attract too much attention - and through that developers push "ugly good, beauty bad" narrative. This is one of the worst things one can intentionally put in any media piece, as this is clearly had been made to made people to refute beauty everywhere.
>>3952178>What’s also interesting is why is BG3 more successful than Divinity?Better presentation for one. Divinity was low budget slop on the road to the promised RPG land of BG3.
>>3952178>This sets a new standard for crpgs that we probably won’t ever see again from anybody besides Larian Studio.You won't get it from them either, kek
>>3952178>The negative reviews are greatly exaggerated.Can you link to the negative reviews?
>>3952178Why do you care what people on this website think, have you actually read half of the shit written here? Every other person is an unironic cultural warrior who's opinions go as deep as game I'm allowed to like Stellar blade good bg3 bad It's just reddit with different media chosen
SOMEONE SAID BG3 THIS WHOLE WEBSITE SUCKS *send post*
>>3952288>Can you link to the negative reviews?you clearly have internet. Just go on steam, nigger.
Yeah. sorry you thought this place had decent discussions, but I never found a single compelling argument against bg3. Just low brow barely even makes sense culture war shit yet generic ass jrpg slop where you play in 3-5x speed gets praised to the moon.Why? Because we deemed the jrpg to be le kino, even if no one finishes it out of boredom. Theirs genuinely no other reason, stop being a newfag.
>>3952288Sure. Here you go:>>3952192>>3952237>>3952245
>>3952310Nope.Link me the reviews that prompted this thread, not posts on 4chan.Nevermind, they don't exist.
>>3952311>Nevermind, they don't exist.lmao are you a fucking idiot?What about the famous criticism that BG3 doesnt feel like a BG game because, among others, its not rtwp?
>>3952311>not posts on 4chan.Posts on 4chan are what prompted this thread though. If you're asking for industry reviews you won't find them because 1: They don't exist and 2: Nobody fucking trusts industry shills to begin with.
>>3952308>I never found a single compelling argument against bg3Uses the worst version of DnD ever, and they homebrewed it to be even worseGimmicky encounter design that relies on unique modifiers they pulled out of their ass rather than interesting compositions of monsters and classesTrash fights drag on due to indecisive enemy AILame MMORPG itemization where everything is “build N charges”Interface is terrible, somehow worse with lost functionality compared to the devs previous game on same engine. Inventory management is a nightmare for the entire gameTerrible story, heavily railroaded to ignore player choiceTerrible writing, constantly immersion breaking with cringe Marvel quipsInsultingly bad callbacks to the first games, made by and for people who didn’t like or play themDevs cut major amounts of content and then lied about it instead of acknowledging what obviously happenedThe MacGuffin is a spiky d20Game packed full of YouTubers, muh critical role VAs, trannies, sometimes tranny YouTubersPacked full of woke garbage, half the races are black now, devs repeatedly lecture you about xenophobia and muh “refugees”Non-binary feminine penisesVitiligo sliders (I think that is a first honestly, inpressive)BG3 had the potential to have been a good game, but that potential is buried under so much garbage and stupid shit. Anyone who praises it without reservation clearly either likes garbage and stupid shit, or is willing to tolerate it and put up with it. All BG3 really innovated was high production values and a big budget, and viral marketing to appeal to a non-cRPG audience. It worked, game was very successful. Zoomers eat that shit up.
>>3952178It is a flawed game but there is a lot to love in it too. I´m going through a second run myself and i am indeed enjoying it more than the first one.
>>3952308>I never found a single compelling argument against bg3Correction : You refuse to engage with people criticizing your first crpg
>>3952368adding to this anon : Reactivity is gone past act 1Roll for everything design, for funny reactions to le nat 1 animations and clips that go viralAct 3 quests are assTerrible evil path overall
>>3952457>engage with people criticiAKA give me (you)s
>>3952178>It's so fucking goodHave you been playing RPGs for only a decade or so? Because all BG3 does is imitate DIv:OS 1/2. It's basically Divinity Original Sin 3. I finished it, uninstalled it, and went back to playing Icewind Dale and Wizardry 7.BG3 is the litmus test for RPG tourism.
>>3952178It's D&D 5e so the game mechanics of the system are just so fucking awful. There's nothing the game can offer that makes up for the fact that it's D&D 5e. That right there is such an impossible hurdle.
>>3952457This, honestly.
>>3952544>Because all BG3 does is imitate DIv:OS 1/2. It's basically Divinity Original Sin 3The craziest part to me is the number of areas where the same devs working on th same engine managed to regress from features their last game had. They nerfed the generic mercenaries (out of saltiness for players disliking their donut steel OC origin characters) to fixed race class combinations, requiring a janky multiplayer workaround just to make a custom party. They fucked up the in-world tooltips and made them useless, just giving an objects name and no other information (dos2 tooltips could show the value and weight, to sift through the six gorillion clutters). And they made the inventory a nightmare to sort and wade through, gone were dos2’s tabs, just dumping everything into one stupid pile. They attempted to reduce the pain with a search bar, which is a nice idea if it worked, but when I played the game at launch it was bugged and broken.
>>3952178>I'm currently playing it right now (finally) and oh my fucking God it's good. The negative reviews are greatly exaggeratedYou're playing a popular game, which won game of the year and got critical acclaim, the problem is that you identify as a contrarian faggot so deeply that you have to frame this as some type of rebellion despite just agreeing with the status quo.
>>3952465>terrible evil pathwhat game has an evil path you consider to be good? i'm not baiting i would like to know so i can play it lol>>3952593idk i really enjoyed bg3 and finished it twice. i've finished act 1 of dos2 3 seperate times and always lose interest in reaper's coast.
>>3952178D&D is for women and homosexuals. By extension, so is BG3.
>>3952237>when drow had been announced as a companion - her face was quickly uglyfied in a few steps over several patchesMy wife Minthara is beautiful
>>3952886I can't take her seriously since they reused the VA from the frumpy middle aged magister on the tutorial boat in DOS2
>>3952311>open Steam>filter to see negative reviewsWow, so difficult.
>>3952631>what game has an evil path you consider to be good?WOTR
It's pretty decent. I played through it two or three times with different builds. It's not nearly as memorable and comfy as 1 and 2 though. It's not even really nostalgia, 1 and 2 just have more soul.
>>3952631>what game has an evil path you consider to be good? Tactics Ogre
modern fantasy is very gay, also they shoved so many obnoxious homos in this game who are going out of their way to tell you about their homosexuality it unironically felt like 30% of fearun are faggots, i wonder if it was Larian or wotc mandated californian faggot writers.
>>3953449Only two really stand out in my mind. Astarion obviously, but also the tranny at the circus. I guess the strong lesbo couple was kind of stupid, though.
>>3953416>Tactics Ogre"Evil" path in that game is objectively completely justified I don't think that's a great example anon
>>3952178Huh?
>>3953544companions are player sexual they arent actually gay, they have faggy mannerism but thats just how modern city leftoid (women?) writers who grew up on modern netflix schlock write dialogue and characters. Im talking about actual lesbian love letters you find all over the world, like 4 or 6 out 10 gnomes you rescue in underdark announce to you they are gay, random cook tells you about his husband etc, Its honestly ridiculous and i see no reason for such behavior besides virtue signaling from writers.
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>>3952178>D&D rules >forgotten realms setting>rolling for skillcheck in a single player game (lmao)>dogshit companions>asinine story about muh gods of the outeruniverse eldritch endtimes >cut scene animations are mocap>evil path is half-baked with it clearly being stitched onto the good path>maps are basically a boring theme park of various asinine encounters>no unique cultural and visual elements between races, it hardly matters what race you are>in fact, there are only 3 races - white, black and asian, all of which are complaying various fantasy races
>>3953723This needs to be hammered into the head of /v/.. and everyone else
>>3953723>>3953781It’s bullshit because it doesn’t reflect the reality of the late ’90s and early 2000s video game industry, which shifted from a relatively niche space driven largely by passionate developers into a heavily commercialized, corporate market shaped by venture capital and boardroom decisions aimed at the lowest common denominator.
>>3953784Here comes the cope
>>3953785If it's just cope from him, why does Harada here agree?
>>3953785>zoomer starts spewing buzzwords the second his uninformed viewpoint is challengedEvery time.
>>3953790https://x.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1761762564344791383source
>>3953793Harada can speak English? wtf
>>3953790>>3953791Let's wait and see how many more will come up and die on this hill
>>3953794Yeah he can speak it pretty well. His Twitter account is great for getting random insights and behind-the-scenes stories.
>>3953785its true for almost every media, only brain damaged zoomer or marketer would claim modern hollywood movies, music etc are better than 25 years ago.
>>3953798Naruhodo...
Couldn’t help but notice that none of the “I’ve never seen any reasonable criticisms of BG3 posted here” fanboys even bothered to respond to, much less attempt to refute, the multiple examples posted in this thread. Always falls back to “you must be wrong because the game is popular and sold well / muh critics liked it (N years after gamergate) / lol the first games were worse because they’re old”
>>3953784What anon saidBG 1 and 2 have a great painted art style that just looks nice even today, the characters don't feel forced, and the story is just more interesting/complete. They are also the reason 3 even exists in the first place. 3's story is meh, the twist with the illithid parasites is fucking stupid, the characters are modern tropes, and obviously the game was inspired to do everything 1 and 2 did, "but better". On the other hand, 3 has a shit ton of content and the gameplay is actually entertaining. I was a huge hater of the game at first, so when I finally broke down and played it, I killed most of the companions and just told everyone in the game to fuck off. I was surprised that it was actually fun while doing this, but the ending was dogshit and had nothing to do with how I played my character. Granted 1 and 2 was a pretty simple good/evil choice too, but everything in the game supported those two choices - 3 gives you the option to do things in many interesting ways, but the result is still a binary good/evil choice, which feels halfassed... not even considering how much I did not give a shit about anything that was going on at the end of the game, too.In the end, I have zero interest in playing 3 anymore. I did it maybe 3 times I guess, or 2 1/2, but I've done everything I want to do. A lot of the quests feel like a chore to do once you already know how it turns out. The only time I feel that way in the first two is Irenicus' dungeon.
>>3952178>What’s also interesting is why is BG3 more successful than Divinity? Is the lore just more interesting?Did you play divinity? It's almost like sandbox rpg, story is dogshit, you are farced to play two characters, its like 90% gameplay 10% story and rpg elements, items are almost random, there's alot of issues with it. BG3 is a really good game, but the moment you get to ACT3 the city the name is called after, it falls of the cliff, it's to big and meandering, you fuck around there and it feels like at every turn you are missing something more.
>>3953851>Did you play divinity?>you are farced to play two charactersIt's always astounding to me the number of zoomers who think that Larian sprang into existence with D:OS>t. thought they sucked since Divine Divinity
>>3953859Releasing a game with a name as terrible as 'Divine Divinity' should have consigned them to ignominy, in a just world.
>>3953863Yes. I could never take them seriously because of it. I completely forgot about them until D:OS2 came out and then I was like “oh fuck. These guys are still around somehow?”
>>3953839>I did it maybe 3 times I guessplaying and finishing this massive rpg even 2 times is a massive thumbs up for it lolI cant recall a game so long that I played twice lol>>3953863>>3953864That title was forced on them by their publisher at the time though lol
>>3954077I've done it twice for sure. Like I said, first game I killed most of the companions and played sort of neutral evil, and I didn't like the ending choices. Despite that, the game was still fun to play and there was a lot of things I could do differently, so my next game was the typical goodie two-shoes character I usually play in RPG's. I tried to play through it a third time, tried various builds, maybe it adds up to another half finished game. At any rate, I have zero desire to play it anymore, so it is what it is.
