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Would you play a game with no endgame?
Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
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i have a job and i'm almost sure this game is called mortal online
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
Yes. Games were better when they didn’t have an “endgame”.
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
No, I don’t have time for that shit.
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
No, I don’t have time for that shit.
Fuck off with your Tim Cain bullshit he’s a washed up YouTube grifter who hasn’t done anything in 20 years
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>>3957382
Yes
Yes
Yes
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>>3957382
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WOULD YOU?
Would you make a quality post on /vrpg/?
Would you make a thread starting with any image that isn't your favorite e-celeb?
Would you please return to RPGCodex?
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>>3957382
Steal everything I own, but gives me a legal cassus belli to fuck everything they have back.
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
old skool PVP on old MMORPGs. i don't play those.
> can't load a save?
arcades games? sure i played lots of them before. mostly not RPGs.
>game with no endgame?
some roguelikes?
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>>3957391
The notorious financial scam? The one with like thirty people who play it because they're in an actual cult centered around it? Yeah. That game.
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If it had no blacks or gays, yes
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
anon i have to like... sleep and shit. Unless the games very short saving and loading is pretty important
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>>3957592
Even roguelikes give you exit saves, they just don't allow you to save and load normally.
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Tim is so hot
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He's right you know
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>>3957469
>Would you please return to RPGCodex?
Why does /vrpg/ think that Codex still likes him? It's been over as year since that guy did his "do it for free" manual TL;DR summaries of every video
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
Only if I'm playing some porn game where it's a feature to have them femc get stripped and thrown into the mud or some shit.

The game better be designed with that in mind, of course. In that it doesn't take you 20 hours to get back on your feet and your gear doesn't just vanish from the game world so you can get/buy/steal it back.
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>>3957469
>Would you make a quality post on /vrpg/?
Would if I could
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>>3957535
i don't know about modern MO last time i checked was 20 or so years ago? I remember the game being such a piece of shit but the community being a literal cult about how great it was to get pk'ed and robbed by a naked mage on a horse.
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Remember when everyone loved him?
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>>3958125
That was before we found out that he's gay. We are homophobic chuds here on /vrpg/.
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>>3958125
>Remember when everyone loved him?
Yeah, before he had a YouTube channel.
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>>3958125
>Remember when everyone loved him?
When everyone knew nothing about him? Lol

I like the guy now that he does content about dev stuff
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>>3957770
Then don't post at all. It does not make you fit in.
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>>3958125
Nothing's changed
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Tim back at it again with the life changing questions
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Tim Cain is a disgusting faggot
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>>3957382
Yes.
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>>3957382
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>>3957382
I DON'T KNOW STOP PRESSURING ME
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>>3958125
anons making fun of his yucky triangles was my first introduction to him so not really
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
Yes.
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
Depends on the rest of the game. If its designed around not loading saves it would be fine. If it's just *insert modern game* no.
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
So like Kenshi? Depends on if there is a way to get everything back.
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>>3958679
What's wrong with that necessarily? Does he not provide quality advice in his videos?
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>>3958880
You wish you were him
>You'd get incredible dev skills
>You'd get solid producer skills
>You'd be having just as much sex with women as you're getting now
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>>3957382
>Would you play an MMO or Rust?

Just use console commands my dude. WoW is beaten when the player cancels their subscription. Fallout 4 taught me console commanding the corn and potatoes is easier than picking them individually because those npcs cannot do it themselves and make a granary. Getting cheated in Rust and they brag about the junk loot they got off you when you know a console command or vendor is more efficient so losses don't matter, well Tim has a video about multiplayer games.
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
ehh probably not i don't really like games without at least SOME story
unless you mean "would you play a game with no postgame", then yes no fucking shit
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
No I don't care about that gay roguelike shit that's been plaguing indie games for years

No I don't care about your gay novel way to save that isn't just opening the menu, I like saving normally (same with anything about not being able to pause outside of it being an online game). innovate elsewhere

>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
no

are you trying to advertise some gay mmo or fivem server because this sounds a lot like that
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>>3962561
kek
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game
This filters out most of this board
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>>3958125
you do not fit in, codexfag
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It's funny how underage posters on /vrpg/ always seethe at Tim & the Codex for some mysterious reason. At the same time, they ostensibly virtue signal to Tim's games/Codex's tastes by putting Fallout/Arcanum in their their Top 5s or Top 10s. But in reality, they probably don't like those games and instead they enjoy playing slop like Expedition 33, Demons' Souls/Elder Ring, JRPG garbo and maybe they consider Underrail "a retro classic".
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Yes, I would fuck tim cain in his tiny fat hairy bussy
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>>3963405
>Tim
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>>3963405
>omg why do people always point out that I'm from another website when I bring it up in every post
Kill yourself, newfag.
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>>3957382
>I've never programmed a game that wasn't a buggy mess, sit down and listen to my words of wisdom about how it was always someone else's fault
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>>3963449
Many such cases
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>>3963449
Not him, but it's hilarious how Tim's critics are always people who never made a game themselves or programmed anything professionally. Tim's actual source code was extremely well written and all of his programmer colleagues loved working with him. It is up to QA to catch the kind of "bugs" you're referring to (game features not interacting properly, script problems, quest issues). None of the contemporary reviews complained about Fallout, Arcanum or ToEE being badly optimized, leaking memory, crashing, etc. Tim was not a programmer on VtM Bloodlines until the very end of the development cycle and he only worked on the boss AI.
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>>3963951
hi, tim
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>>3963951
>defending e-celebs
Kill yourself, newfag Codexnigger.
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>>3963951
>Arcanum
this leaked like an adult diaper. fuck the main menu lagged. supposedly a common problem with games designed for old single-core processors though.
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>>3957382
Yes. No. No.
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Tim said that he was the first DM who fought against misogyny in AD&D. Female characters were limited to 18/50 STR for no reason, no benefit in return. Tim heard the pleas of his female players and he removed this restriction.
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>>3964821
he should be an pragmatic equalist. reduce STR, because that's IRL human wahmen, increase their boobs size by 1 cup and increase CHA. no changes for non-humans.
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>>3964821
>Female characters were limited to 18/50 STR for no reason
This is lazy bait, but have a (you). Acknowledging biological reality is not misogyny. If anything, allowing exceptional strength at all is absurdly generous. Women naturally lack the muscle mass to lift significant amounts of weight, and only large amounts of exogenous testosterone and steroids can change this. Go back in time a hundred years ago before modern chemistry and find me a single woman strong enough to qualify for exceptional strength. You won't.
An average strength score (10-11, 25% chance per 3d6) corresponds to a press of 115 pounds and a deadlift of 230 pounds. A woman can achieve this with years of training (a 230 DL will be easier than a 115 press for most women).
A modestly high score of 16 (~2.8% chance) corresponds to a press of 195 and a deadlift of 390. This would solidly be in elite athlete territory after many years of training for a woman.
An 18 (~0.5% chance) corresponds to a press of 255 and a deadlift of 510. World record territory.
An 18/50 (0.2% chance) corresponds to a press of 280 and a deadlift of 560. Just no.
Everyone performing at the top level of every sport is juiced to the gills, women simply do not develop that level of strength or muscle mass naturally, full stop. And the world records are even more muddied now with trannies taking women's world records by shouting "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN!!!" before pulling seven plates or whatever.
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>>3965356
>And the world records are even more muddied now with trannies taking women's world records by shouting "I IDENTIFY AS A WOMAN!!!" before pulling seven plates or whatever.
This. It's hard to argue gender equality when men and women are seperated in physical sports because "men have an unfair advantge in physical capabilities".
The sad thing is the same logical applies for mental capabilites. There's seperate division for women in chess because, again, as a whole, they're not as capable as men.
Women just can't catch a break. We need to invent competitive activities where women have a natural advantage.
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>>3957382
He has aids
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>>3965420
>We need to invent competitive activities where women have a natural advantage
Those exist, but nobody cares for whatever reason.
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>>3965625
Such as?
And don't you dare say dressage!
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>>3962561
>muh incel
I'm married. You will never have children, troon.
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>>3964821
>female AD&D players
Ask me how I know he's lying
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>>3965420
>We need to invent competitive activities where women have a natural advantage.
Not sure how you'd turn giving birth and nurturing children into a competitive sport. Maybe competitive home decoration?
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>>3965732
based! transcript rights!
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>>3965731
Now be honest. How many kids did she have from pump n' dumps before she decided to settle with you?
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>>3965731
So like he said, you'd be having the same amount of sex with women either way.
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>>3966086
>>3966090
niggas do be projecting
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>>3962348
Familiarity breeds contempt. The more you find out about him and his thoughts behind fallout development, the more of a fag you realise he is, in every meaning of the word.
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>>3962561
>Incredible dev skills
I don't know man if you asked me in the early 2000s I might have agreed, but it seems like when he gets more creative control the games got shit, so he's obviously not the talent behind things.
>Solid Producer skills
Arcanium was a buggy mess, and they managed to lose money on it. Then he did tie ins with some of the most popular TTRPG names, and managed to bankrupt the company. I'd have to disagree with you fundamentally.
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>>3957393
>>3957395
Prefect example of cradle to the grave. The grooming of Gen Z worked perfect you’ll own nothing and be happy.
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
yes, please
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
I like games that design failure instead of leaving it to the player, which I think breaks the actual gameplay. imagine saving and loading in chess, for an extreme example. the game should auto save when I quit for convenience and that's it. if I die and that's what the game was designed around, then I die and start over. if I wake up back in town with my gear and gold gone, then I scrounge up some basic gear and go get my shit back, etc.
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
yes, that sounds fun
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>>3957382
>they can steal everything you own
You mean an online game with chat? No I would not play such a game until laws start being enforced against these companies.
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He is a big fat sodomite who made 1 good game
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>>3966318
>Fallout
>Arcanum
Objectively two top 5 best RPGs of all time.
>Pillars of Eternity
>South Park: The Stick of Truth
Better RPGs than every BioWare/Bethesda game you like. He worked on both as a programmer from the start.
>The Outer Worlds
Never played it or its sequel because I am a based racist, but you would have probably loved them if they were made by BioWare lol.

DESTROYED.
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>>3967259
You are new to 4chan and you are defending a literal baby-raping faggot LOL
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>>3967502
He's not wrong, though.
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>>3967508
>he
You are new to 4chan and you are defending a literal baby-raping faggot, on top of being a poor samefag LOL
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>>3967259
>Objectively two top 5 best RPGs of all time.
One, the concept of stating that something is "objectively [something subjective]" marks you as a complete retard who believes that the word "objectively" is a magic token one can invoke to lend greater weight to one's highly subjective and personal preferences, because you are a melanin-rich individual with an IQ in the 80s.
Two, both Fallout and Arcanum have aged like absolute dogshit. When was the last time you played them? Exactly, decades ago, if you've even played them at all, and aren't merely namedropping them to sound like le cultured oldfag, because you are actually an incredibly insecure 14 year old zoomer.
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>>3967512
>immediately starts seething about muh samefagging
>doesn't even know what samefagging is
Lurk more before posting and you might fit in eventually, newfriend.
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>>3967259
>>Fallout
This is where your list should have ended.
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
C:DDA is my favorite game, all i play on my RTX5090 is C:DDA and Quake Live
>Would you play a game where you can't load a save?
I play Apex with my brother every Friday, he lives far away as a works opposite shifts
>Would you play a game where they can steal everything you own?
I enjoyed DayZ, i put 150hrs into it in a month then i burned out i guess lol but it was fun
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>>3967528
>One, the concept of stating that something is "objectively
Stopped reading there. Hilarious how the guy who calls Tim a "fat sodomite" is also a leftist soijack from R*dd*t
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>>3967528
>"objectively" is a magic token one can invoke to lend greater weight to one's highly subjective and personal preferences
You have that reversed, while it's true many use "objectively" incorrectly with regards to a subjective subject it is often done through ignorance. The reality is it's more often that "subjective" is used as magic token to override the objective.
A good example of this can be found in modern gender issues where objective facts such as chromosome compositions are being overriden with subjective self-perceptions.
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>>3967721
>gender
Gender isn’t real. You’re legitimatizing their delusions by accepting their semantic framing.
“What is the best RPG?” is a highly subjective personal opinion, and not a matter of objective fact. Hope this helps.
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>>3967731
Not her, but if you have a proper definition of "roleplaying" (which /vrpg/, admittedly, doesn't have, since most of you are retarded /v/ermin, especially you) then it's very easy to make an objective ranking of what the best RPG is. And, ironically, Arcanum and Fallout would both be in the top 5 roleplaying games using the the best definition of "roleplaying" that is support by the majority of experts on RPG Codex (incl. founding fathers of RPG Codex like me). I say ironically, because Tim Cain himself supports a very similar definition of "roleplaying" but the also does doublethink and doesn't actually apply his own definition when calling something roleplaying in video games (i.e. he thinks that doing a barrel only run in Divinity: Original Sin 2, is "roleplaying").

That's about all. Peace out. Now seethe.
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>>3967753
>support by the majority of experts
Good goy.
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>>3967758
I don't know what an RPG codex is but if they're jewish they should be respected
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>>3967758
>>3967768
RPG Codex is antisemitic (which is based) and yet also treated as a serious enough tour de france on the RPG industry that its opinion is allowed to be posted in Wikipedia articles. That's a huge accomplishment, because of the antisemitism.
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>>3967770
>and yet also treated as a serious enough tour de france on the RPG industry that its opinion is allowed to be posted in Wikipedia articles
That only makes them as esteemed as any game journo, that is, less than worthless.
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>>3967753
@grok I keep typing seethe on 4chan.org but posters still reply and are not writhing on the floor in physical pain, what do I do?
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>>3967753
>That's about all. Peace out. Now seethe.
And voila, he is seething now >>3967796 and asking his slop-AI "waifu" to console him. Sad!
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>>3967259
>>Pillars of Eternity
Boring game.
>>South Park: The Stick of Truth
Pure slop.
>>The Outer Worlds
Tranny slop.
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Hard truthbombs from Tim. No other game designer brings attention to this issue. Chuds just want their
>muh speech
insta win (Fallout New Vegas is crying right now).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvLwldNHc4
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>>3968882
You don’t know “Tim”, he doesn’t give a fuck about you, you’re not his friend, and no one gives a fuck about what “Tim” has to say
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>>3968905
>and no one gives a fuck about what “Tim” has to say
I care.
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Why do transwomen keep seething about Tim? I know that he "misgendered" some ugly ass biologically male Jew once. But he got on his knees like a good goy and he apologized. Why won't >>3968905 forgive him?
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>>3968882
Codexfag speaking in buzzwords and samefagging, shocking.
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>>3968882
Interesting topic, gave me some ideas
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>>3968944
>>3968930
>>3968911
>>3968882
Samefagging Codexfag speaking in buzzwords.
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>>3968930
I am giving you the hard truth: your zoomer parasocial relationship with a D-tier washed up eceleb is not real. You do not know Tim Cain. He does not care about you. He will never notice you for shilling for him. You are the equivalent of a terminal weeb hover-handing some cosplay model at the furry convention. It’s extremely embarrassing and I implore you to stop for your own sake.
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>>3968930
Because Tim is smart, talented, funny, and handsome bear of a man.
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you hurt his feelings
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>>3970997
>t. a noise
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>>3970997

See, Codexers? "Tim" doesn't like any of you. "Tim" is not your friend. He does not give a fuck about you. No one cares what "Tim" says. He is just an old fucking transphobe who made 1 slightly above average game that none of you zoomers play.
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>>3957382
It's called classic MMOs.
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>>3968882
Remember, this is what he thinks is the future of dialogue writing in RPGs and coincidentally also what Sawyer thought the future would be in 2017 before chatGPT was invented
https://www.pcgamesn.com/josh-sawyer-branching-dialogue-ai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeUwPLxsp7Y
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7yGm3URKpM

>You know what? My game [Arcanum] had a BEAUTY attribute. Get that! And let me tell you a story... I once had chocolate fruits in the office from one of my female colleagues said she doesn't like any except blueberries... and when I asked her why she doesn't buy just blueberries... she said she LIKES VARIETY.

>checkmate, chuds, this LOGICALLY answers your question

chudbros...we lost...
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>>3976181
Asking a homosexual man why fictional women are unattractive lol
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>>3976181
heh. the start was promising. that "hahah have you heard about that silly thing on the Interwebs?" that terminally online people do to pretend they aren't intimately familiar with the discussion before dropping their 100h long shower thought
but then he didn't go anywhere. just empty, self serving platitudes
that's most of his videos, to be honest. so nothing new
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>>3976181
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>>3976181
You are 16-25 years old and new to 4chan.org haha
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>literal creator of Fallout says everyone is beautiful in their own way, don't be a chud
wow, chuds lost so hard here
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>faggot lies
I am shocked, just shocked.
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>>3977409
it's over
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>>3957382
That sounds like Shadowbane.
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>>3977548
>-oomer
>cuck
>project
Why do you make such a big deal about being young and new to 4chan?
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>>3977647
>buzzword salad
>pretending old archives don't exist
>believes his favorite words cause physical pain to others irl
Why do you make such a big deal about being young and new to 4chan?
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>>3977649
>Why do you make such a big deal about being young and new to 4chan?
It's a big deal for zoomers for some reason. This particular schizo has an absolute seething meltdown whenever he gives himself away as the larping zoomer he is, he'll be screeching about indians or something next.
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>>3977650
You are new to 4chan LOL
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>>3957382
>Would you play a game with no endgame?
Frankly I always thought END GAME was just a way to pad out SHORT GAME. The game is the game. Post final boss fuckaround is fine and I like the occasional super boss but it's alright and in many cases even preferable to let the game be over.
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>>3977660
>>3977661
>being new to 4chan
>samefagging himself
Codexfag is going to punch another hole in the drywall. :(
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>>3977660
And there you go. Gonna have another melty and get yourself banned like the last three times?
>>3955774
>>3955722
>>3909500
>>3909465
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>>3977659
>Post final boss fuckaround is fine and I like the occasional super boss but it's alright and in many cases even preferable to let the game be over.
One problem I have with too much side stuff in the "end game", is that you're leveling and getting better items throughout that stuff, so the actual final boss becomes a pushover, and I think the struggle against a boss really matters for the narratives sometimes.
Like if I see a boss make a big deal about his ultimate move, and then I lose 100 hp out of 8000, and I instantly heal it back I don't take the otherwise cool antagonist seriously.



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