You either love it, hate it, or are indifferent to it.
I haven't played it, and I'm not going to buy a cashgrab.
>>3962186Manko nakadashi with Sophie
>>3962186Gameplay is a 9/10, maybe even 10/10, one of the most fun Tales games.Story and characters: -10/10, easily the worst writing of any Tales game and that's saying a lot.
>>3962274This, the combos were fun but I could not suffer through the story to finish the game.
>>3962277Within 30 seconds of her introduction I wanted to fucking murder this bitch
>>3962279Haha but imagine her stinky multi-tone pubes haha
>>3962274People always say this as if all Tales games aren't filled with paint-by-number tropes and inane faggotry.
>>3962274Game was also ugly and had shit music. Just port the gameplay to almost any other tales and you get an all timer game.
>>3962819>filled with paint-by-number tropes and inane faggotryI do go so far as to say that's Bamco in a nutshell outside of a few exceptions.
it was the last, good, tales.
>>3962819And yet if "people always say this" it must mean they noticed something clearly different about this one compared with the others.
>>3962274There's no way it can be worse than Xillia
>>3963636it's about on par imo and i say this as a gigantic xillia shill
It's divisive because a lot of english-only piggies went into it expecting another game with the tone of Symphonia/Abyss/Vesperia, and they were disappointed when they got hit with the more shoujo-ish pastel Inomata Team Destiny vibes.I love it. The last truly great Tales game.
>>3963636Xillia's great.
1. Tales of Vesperia2. Tales of Symphonia3. Tales of Abyss4. Tales of Graces 5. Tales of BerseriaFor me it's a top 5 tales of game.
>>3963733>symphonia at #2Opinion discarded
>>3962186>You either love it, hate it, or are indifferent to it.how profound
>>3962274>Story and characters: -10/10, easily the worst writing of any Tales game and that's saying a lot.That's Berseria
>>3963733Recently started Vesperia, story is great but the translations...
>>3962274Zestiria was significantly worse. At least Pascal's fun and Sophie's cute
>>3964233Damn I love how the visuals look in vesperia. I can't believe namco abandoned whatever gfx engine they used for vesperia for the eye cancer shit they've been using since xillia. I'm enjoying berseria right now but the graphics are fucking horrible. They feel cheap like an idea factory game or something.People hate on vesperias story but I think it's actually pretty good. Certain opinions just spring up on the internet sometimes and then people bandwagon on it. Yuri starts as a vigilante and by the end he's at the other end of that blade of vengeance it's great stuff. And I love duke and how the story resolves itself without killing him or throwing him under the bus. They fight and then come to an understanding which was neat.
>>3963733>2. Tales of SymphoniaLOLAlso1. Tales of Destiny DC2. Tales of Graces f3. Tales of Hearts R4. Tales of Innocence R5. Tales of EterniaNostalgia fags need not apply.
>>3964342Well it’s good Arise looks so visually different haha…
>>3964342I stand by the opinion that the amount of hype Vesperia got on the web hurt its reputation a smidge.
>>3963495Scamco cancelling the Abyss remaster right now cause by their fucked up logic people watching the biggest JP streamer play it means they wont want to buy it
>>3964355Im looking forward to playing eternia after innocence r
>>3964858Eternia is pretty good I remember playing the psp port back in high school.
>>3962255>>3962274Once again there are rwo kinds of people.
>>3967692Three.
>>3964712probably because remastering it would be too much effort. remember; symphonia only happened because of the ps3 collection was itself a port of a ps2 port.
Still don't see how capacity cores require minmax autism.>luke and guy care about physical attack>everyone else cares about fonon attack>natalia is bad and doesn't care about any stat>a majority of your cores are favored towards mages since most of your party is magesI'm not seeing any super critical skills that requires killing off characters just to swap around one core. The only time you want to kill off a character is Asch to avoid giving Luke levels, and that's only if you plan on using Luke over Guy.
>>3968250>Natalia is badWhatever argument you're trying to make is automatically invalid.
>>3968250Natalia is the best character of the game however. Use Luke, Natalia, Tear and any irrelevant 4th member, disables AI use of anything but the healing spells on Natalia and Tear and you can finish the rest of the game by button mashing with closed eyes even on hard difficulty.The only part of Tales of Abyss that has any challenge is the start before you get Natalia.
>>3968252is she that good. I stuck with Luke, Tear, Jade, and I controlled Guy
>>3968251In terms of stats though this is true. She's a support character, she's not going to be attacking with her physical artes and she doesn't have any offensive spells. All of her healing is percentage based which doesn't scale off of fonon attack. Her most important stats are HP and TP.>>3968256Her first heal spell with a maxed out carmine chamber is basically a full heal, and quick. The argument for why Natalia is good is that she frees up Tear to spam holy lance.
Keeping it simple for your first run>Luke/Guy: 80 P.Atk/Agi>Tear/Jade/Anise/Natalia: 60 F.Atk/P.Def/F.Def and 40 AgiEveryone likes Enh, Natalia does not need F.Atk past 60 but due to core availability and other stat priorities, you probably won't be raising her P.Atk all that much until you start getting the all in ones.
>>3968259Natalia is just the better healer for basically the entire game in terms of keeping the team alive. Her buffs are pretty useful too when backed by Carmine Chambers and she has an incredible arte later on in Revive/Angel's Breath.
>not using Jade and Natalia as physical attackersyou people are no fun
>>3968271For me its using a Sunlight for Explosion/Flare Tornado.
>>3962186Edna !
Abyss bad
>>3968355Do go on
>>3968537https://youtu.be/5r2wpnbWnB4?t=169
>>3964712Lots of big JP streamers have been playing Abyss lately, and I highly doubt it’s a coincidence. Probably a marketing strategy
>>3964240You say that but I know someone who considered that Xillia, and Graces as reasons why he wouldn't even touch the series.
>>3971316And if he'd started with Zestiria, I bet he'd be talking about how he wants to firebomb Bandai Namco HQ.
>getting big graces vibes>holy fuck stahn is a complete dumbass, not even in an endearing way he's just stupid>debating on installing the extra arte slots mod or not>no clue how anyone could prefer the team symphonia style presentation for skits after seeing the skits in this game>don't really like lens, seems like an extra step they added for getting gald, rerise using lens is effectively paying gald for gear upgrades anyway>graces does feel like it handled cc better which is expected, swapping around swordian devices to master them leaves you with the default cc for most of the time
>>3962279>Within 30 seconds of her introduction I wanted to fuck this bitchYeah man i can understand. I want to impregnate pascal so fucking much. Multiple times.
I think the story is pretty generic and Asbel is not really interesting as an MC but the game has Sophie and Pascal (+ Hubert as a hononary mention) and it's very fun to play so it's 7-8/10 for me
>>3962186better than Zestria and Legendia
>>3974458also better than Symphonia, Symphonia 2, Abyss, Vesperia, Xillia, Xillia 2, Tempest, Innocence, Innocence R, Hearts R, Berseria, and Arise
>>3971853>Swordian DevicesI just had everyone master random filler shit on mobs and use the important ones for bosses. Make sure you beat them on Hard or above for extra DP. Eventually you'll master so much stuff that you'll have enough CC to work with.>LensYeah, its annoying. However, you almost never need to buy armor from the shop so it balances out. You just need to find out/look up which armor tree has the stuff that you want and follow that path to the end.I dont know if you know this already but accessories actually influence your growth in DC. So contrary to common sense, you actually want to wear the ones that correspond to your worst non sub stat(s). Stahn with 2x Green crits a hell of a lot more for example.
>>3962186Indifferny
