What does /vrpg/ think of the Suikoden games and how do they compare to other PS1 era RPGs? The only ones I played was the second and third game many years ago so I might pick up that remaster released a while ago.
>>3966614I love 1 and 2, 3 is kind of a sad failure but there's some good stuff in it. 4 was terrible at the time because the combination of loading times and encounter rate was torture, but if you're emulating now you can turbo smash those things and it's finishable. 5 was a self-conscious attempt to make Suikoden 2 again and it's got pretty high craftsmanship but it needed some more soul and attempts at innovation.
>>3966614The missable characters over multiple games scares me away from this series
>>3966670They're generally pretty well designed for you to get them all. You mostly just do the obvious things like recruit any enemy that gives you the option.I looked up a missable character video for Suikoden 1 just now to remind myself and it had three reasonably missable characters out of 108 if you're putting straightforward effort into recruiting every person with a portrait you see. I assume the later games do it less. If you take this advice Level up Pahn with your party and keep his weapon upgraded that leaves two.
>>3966614I used to think S1 & 2 were really good, but after replaying them now I realize they aren't all that - they do have the niche of huge roster of characters that not many JRPGs have however. S1 is full of literal hallway dungeons (S2 has this too, but to a slightly less extent), abrupt plot decisions, characters acting like NPCs during emotional cutscenes.. The certain character dying in the beginning didn't move me. S2 is weirdly paced in some segments, the war minigames being literal RNGfests.. (although I liked the idea, just the execution is abysmal)Also both games have very simplistic boss encounters..
>>3966614>compare to other PSX era RPGs?good story, mid combat mechanics, fun minigames. looks outdated compared the 3D polygonal trend of the PSX but it works.
>>3966614It's interesting to me no other JRPG series really capitalized on Suikoden's formula. Hell, even among fan games you have something like Exit Fate.
>>3966670every game has a detective character that gives you clues about where to find and how to recruit. it's only rare few instances of timed or narrow window of recruitment that are a bitch.
>>3966614Will Star Leap save it?
>>3967060No, the whole Suikoden revival is some numbnuts at Konami that has the idea of Suikoden gacha shit in his head, and once that makes no money the plug will get pulled.
>>3966636Is suikoden remaster 1,2 worth it? Played saga frontier 2 and must say the gameplay is lame, the concept is top tier.
>>3967198Seems like $50 for worse looking backgrounds and worse QoL than emulators
>>3967233Isn't the physical 12 bucks or so?
>>3967320>>3967233I was pretty certain I saw a physical copy for cheap, but it's around 50 online. Curious
>>3967198>Is suikoden remaster 1,2 worth it?For the most part yes. Some of the re-translation reeks of machine bullshit at times, but you get PSP QoL like diagonal movement. Asset upgrades are your classical hit or miss case. For me they generally air on now looking like RPG Maker tilesets.
>>3967515Now that you say it. The difference between sprite and background or rather the disparity gives rpgm vibes. Well, as long as the rpgs are fun.
>>3967591>vibesget outta here vibes checkers.
>>3967049I like the addition of portraits there.
Tactics is a pretty good game
>>3974526It partially redeems 4.
>>3974610I certainly appreciated having a second go at t he Island Nations setting because even in four I rather liked it.
>>3974610It definitely redeems Lazlo for meI hate him in 4 with his blank porcelain doll stare in every scene but hes a good character in Tactics. Hes really laid back but its because hes so competent and strong he knows he doesn't need to worry about problems, and its nice to see other characters recognize him as that good too.
>>3966732Is saga frontier 2 or star ocean 1,2 remake good?
>>3967198>concept is top tierThe old saga games are all like that
>>3967233>worse QoL than emulatorslol yeah right
>>3966614I've only played Suikoden 2 and it was kamige. No other JRPG compares.
