Well, that was certainly one way for the previous thread to end.

>>4024545
Rape franchise, rape endings.

>>4024543
>Are you making a fangame? Post progress.
sure, here is a representation of what I've done in the last few weeks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kScDdlhORBw

>>4024549
While it's very impressive that you made that song, I'm afraid Toby already beat you to the punch by making that song first and releasing it in chapters 3 and 4 a little over a year ago now.

>>4024349
>But if the consequences of keeping the current system in place aren't enough to convince her, what would?
Maybe time or failing at her goal, but since failure means death there's not much room for her to change her ideals, maybe she'll tell you her sad backstory as her life ends.
>Does she truly care for the people she seeks to save, or is she more loyal to her ideals than to actually doing any good in the world?
Her main goal was always to prove the system wrong, saving others in the process is a bonus, like I said she's not the most moral person , she just draws a line when it comes to harming so many innocents and specially children.
>I can't imagine she'd be willing to let someone stand in her way over something like this, and I couldn't stand by and let her throw the fate of the world in the trash over her ideals.
Yeah, it has to be this way, if neither of you is going to back down.

>>4024445
Thanks a lot anon, I'll give it a read and see what I can improve based on your feedback

>>4024557
>Maybe time or failing at her goal, but since failure means death there's not much room for her to change her ideals, maybe she'll tell you her sad backstory as her life ends.
If time is an option, she could always just wait.
Or be made to wait, maybe I could just incapacitate her instead of killing her outright, though I don't think she'd be too happy about that.
>Her main goal was always to prove the system wrong, saving others in the process is a bonus, like I said she's not the most moral person , she just draws a line when it comes to harming so many innocents and specially children.
I think she's drawing the line too short. Even if she saves a handful of kids in the short term, she's effectively ensuring the deaths of countless more in the long term, so her ideals are working against her here.
>Yeah, it has to be this way, if neither of you is going to back down.
Shame. I'd certainly like not to have to kill her, but if she's not giving me a choice, I guess I'd do what I have to.

>>4024545
start using palworld images as the op. jannies wont look twice and im sure there's some mons that you can use to signal others

>>4024573
I was talking about the previous thread ending with a post about rape.

>>4024551
>Toby invented crickets to make anon derivative

DR!Oldentale Racter getting drafted for WW1 !

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Flat colors are done, for both versions, all that remains now is the shading.
I think her eye turned out alright, but my monitor is so fucked that the different sides of her iris look like two different shades of orange, though I know that should just be on my end.
Anyway, hoping to have this done either later today, or at least in time for a thread on Saturday, but shading's always a chore.
The image itself is fairly basic, but hopefully it will be worth the wait.
Goodnight.

I just remembered Toby lives in Japan.
I wonder how much does go to Hostess Clubs, considering dire social culture in that country.

>>4024618
Lookin good anon. Also rest well!

>>4024618
Her eye looks good to me

>>4024616
DR!Oldentale takes place in the same time frame as Deltarune, he would be getting drafted to a different war, maybe Vietnam.

>>4024667
Deltarune canonically takes place in 202X though

And Oldentale characters are dead in UT which DR is based off of

>>4024667
I don't think Racter would be drafted in Oldenrune, or whatever you'd call it. major part of Deltarune's lore, is that there is no history of war hanging over everyone's head. Sure there probably still have been wars, but thematically speaking, it wouldn't make sense for the main characters to be a part of them, especially if their someone conflict averse like Racter.

>>4024678
The timeline is different in DR, things are more compressed and character's ages are not evenly shifted around.

>>4024703
>ages are not evenly shifted around
Most of them are slightly older than their UT selves, is there an example of the opposite (I don't remember myself)?

>>4024710
Asriel isn't over 100 years old, and Kris is some weird combination of Chara and Frisk, yet he's also not over 100. Gerson and Asgore are around the same age in Undertale, but I highly doubt there's any conditional magic immortality in Deltarune to explain Asgore not being old as shit if he's that age, so he and Toriel are probably a lot younger in the DR universe.

>>4024744
>Asriel isn't 100 years old
Because boss monsters age are taken from their bio-age rather time-age
>Kris is some weird combination of Chara and Frisk
They are likely just an unrelated human since they (99%) had a cyan soul, and Chara/Frisk had a red one

the DRY update this time is... that there was no update
I've been playing palworld non stop, so much it is fucking with my sleep schedule and my tendons are starting to hurt
at least I'm at the last area so hopefully I'll be done with it soon and then get back into DRY dev

>>4024762
>Because boss monsters age are taken from their bio-age rather time-age
Or there isn't any kind of hard rule for these things and Toby just did it based on what he wanted the characters to be doing in the story. Bio age seems like way too hard and specific of a rule for Toby's writing.

>(99%) had a cyan soul
That theory is nowhere near proven. Not only does it lack evidence, but the preponderance of evidence still points towards the red soul, and him being a mashup of Frisk and Chara in terms of equivalence.

>>4024768
Which DRY?

>>4024762
>>4024772
It's a green sovl. Source: that shirt they sell on Fangamer.

>>4024773
DRY1

>>4024768
Flarecle reference when?

>>4024768
Man… same here, that game has been my latest addiction, I get back from work and all I can think is about is “what am I getting done today?” Or “what boss am I fighting?”

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DRY1 art from offsite is a rare but fine thing

>>4024781
It's nice seeing DRY art when crawling around looking for it
I find it much less enjoyable seeing Kris x Cole stuff in the process

>>4024534
Good morning/afternoon Anon.
>I would like some explanation by,what you meant with your first point. I realize it was very info dump-y, sadly with what I wanted to write, there was no way in my mind to avoid that.
what I'm saying is that, it feels like she's covering all of the information an outside observer might want to know about the situation, rather than what she'd tell to some people who are apparently slightly familiar with her and she's telling a tale but terrible and true. She starts coming across like a history book rather than a person sharing her experience, or like a teacher who's prompting the class to speak up and give answers. I know you said you felt like there was no way to avoid that, but I think that comes from you wanting to give us the readers all the information to make when and where she came from make sense, rather than cutting out information that she might think "I don't need to say this for the story to make sense" or "I can kind of brush up on this for it to make sense"
like for instance the whole doctor thing, you don't have to skip that, but a lot of it makes sense by association to all the other things she tells us, but we spend a lot of time dwelling on the fact that the doctors are overwhelmed and that there was no solution to that, but I think that things like the suicide missions, the fact that the ooze functions as terrible parasites, and what happens to Silver and lily you get enough information where instead of having a significant back and forth over the doctors themselves, you can infer it with the other stuff and instead only touch on it lightly, letting the rest of what happened imply the worst.
kind of hit the audience with an "We lost some good doctors to that sick bastards schemes. people that just wanted to save lives, there was no way to know who was infected and who was just injured with that many wounded."

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>>4024781
I don't rotate these two in my head as much as I do for canon but it's cute enough to save an occasional picture
>>4024784
>spoiler
I honestly think that those two wouldn't HATE hate each other, but would have the most difficult time tolerating each other in the same space for long. and it's more fun and interesting if the animosity goes both ways instead of the surface level angle of Cole being a passive outsider caught in Kris's humanity complex.

>>4024789
the suicide missions basically already tell us how desperate things were. I know the suicide missions were told to us afterwards, but by moving some things around I think you can cut down on some other parts just because stuff like that makes it clear to us how terrible the situation was without having to spell out the detailed logistics of war triage.
>About Jackie being formal or not, that's on me
I think the easiest change is, she should use contractions more if she's not a formal speaker. She did a lot of "you are"s and "you could/would" instead of "you're" and "You'd" which makes her sound formal and distant, like Data from star trek if you've seen TNG. he speaks in a stilted way on purpose and it comes across as 'mechanical'. Undyne did this as well.

>I'm not sure what you mean by Martlet, I get the feeling a word or two was left out there, or you meant to aay she was stiff like Undyne felt at times?
sorry I was saying that during the little dialogue you gave Martlet, she felt pretty natural in how she was talking. Martlet has this goofy way of speaking like her uncertainty/birdbrained nature is working it's way into what she's saying and doing, and for the few lines she had It felt right. Undyne and jackie were really the only ones that felt overly formal. Starlo felt natural since he spoke in his more loose wild east manner.
>as well as the heavy topic I felt wouldn't make sense if she constantly shouted or called people punks there.
oh yeah for sure, I didn't expect her to start doing that. It would be really tone deaf of her and while I think she CAN be tone deaf at times, I don't think she'd do that here other than maybe in the beginning (and she did call Jackie a punk I think at the start which was fitting).
Note, Undyne doesn't turn every word into a contraction that she possibly can, but look at this line of hers
"* You're really eager to
die, aren't you?"
and then read it back if she said
"You are really eager to die, are you not?"

>>4024795
>>4024789
>Overall, I'm happy that yiu found this neat and I hope this was a good snippet into my oc stuff, even if it was a bit rough around the edges.
I did think it was interesting, and I can tell you've put a lot of thought into the setting Jackie comes from. Like I said that world would honestly be a lot of fun to run a campaign in I think
I also mean it when I say that it's much much smoother than when you first started writing. Your improvements are very clearly noticeable and I hope that I don't come across as nitpicking things apart. I think it's relevant enough to the threads that there's nothing wrong with you posting it, even if our boy Clover is only around at the start, Starlo was an active participant in the conversation, and it was neat that you picked Ace to have him be a part of things.

>>4024768
for DRY2 i've actually just gotten over palworld since the lucky status cant be passed on through breeding.
that was the last thing keeping me away from working on DRY2, i have nothing but the code mines now.
...but i do have a week long trip starting on sunday, i will be trying to get as much of the pause system done as i can before that. if i actually focus i should just be able to get it done for the most part before then, even between the IRL prep i have to do for it.

>>4024793
>spoilers
sure I can see them not hating eachother, but I can't see kris pushing cole against a locker to make out.
I do like some of the greens where Cole has antagonized kris lightly like how he gave kris a hard time for how big of a deal he made of taking the soul out.

>>4024774
What? I don't get it, could you explain it?>>4024772
Yeah it very well could be just Toby doing how he wants to, but we have to go off of something.
>Nowhere near proven
The majority of evidence doesn't point to the red soul being Kris's original soul? Why is Kris cyan, why is the color when choosing options in the settings cyan, why does aqua represent Kris.
And there is evidence disproving red original soul like Kris being bad at flirting until he gets the red soul. (Red soul trait is Love). And Kris only gets (You) since chapter 1.

What is the evidence for the red soul being the original soul (genuinely want to know)?

>>4024802
>but I can't see kris pushing cole against a locker to make out.
the poster child of avoidant personality disorder could never be so straightforward

>>4024817
>but we have to go off of something.
We should go off what makes for the best story.

>Why is Kris cyan
Why is he yellow? Why is Frisk yellow? Skin color =/= soul color

> why does aqua represent Kris
There's an argument to be made for all the souls representing Kris in some way, as much as I hate to say it.
>like Kris being bad at flirting until he gets the red soul.
Where'd you get that from?

>Red soul trait is Love
According to what? The only outright description of its trait I remember is BALL GAME, which would be more like player soul or main character soul than LOVE.

>why are the options cyan
They aren't? I just checked and they don't even have a highlight color at all.

>What is the evidence for the red soul being the original soul
Him being extremely similar to Frisk and Chara and serving the same role of player character.

>>4024830
>We should go off what makes for the best story
True, but it's good when it's also canon compliant

>Why is he yellow
Because humans are not soul colored in the LW, like they are in the DW.
>Where'd you get that from
Closet scene in chapter 4 with Noelle and Susie talking about Kris
>According to what?
Protagonism isn't really a soul trait. It isn't said outright, but has multiple implied things supporting it. Like Kris getting really good at flirting when getting a red soul. "Ball game" means "Undertale".
>him being similar to Frisk and Chara
I think its because original "murderboy" idea was repurposed into being Kris.

>>4024837
>True, but it's good when it's also canon compliant
And there is no canon here. Nothing explicitly states or implies a hard rule about how character ages must translate.

>like they are in the DW.
All we have are some explicitly not human flowers which are already those colors in the light world. Hardly enough evidence to say for certain.

>Protagonism isn't really a soul trait.
Who says it isn't? Protagonism certainly is a thing in universe, and the red soul always has the most of it.

> "Ball game" means "Undertale"
And here it would mean Deltarune

>I think its because original "murderboy" idea was repurposed into being Kris.
Which would still make him an analogue of Frisk and Chara.

>>4024817
>What? I don't get it, could you explain it?
https://www.fangamer.com/collections/deltarune/products/green-yellow-striped-shirt
Note the tag

>>4024830
>They aren't
I meant when you remap controls in the settings. That actually makes my point better.
>>4024838
>All we have
While its true, it would be weird to be not the case. Monsters have white souls so it would make sense for them to only slightly tint in the dark world form, while humans get soul colored. Also Kris is shown to be Cyan in the Asgore's flashback.

I personally think him being not an original character but Frisk/Chara detracts from his character and makes him worse, but I am not imposing my beliefs. I think Toby intentionally made it that way so people would assume he is one of them.

>>4024839
Kris is Codester wtf???

>>4024842
>I meant when you remap controls in the settings. That actually makes my point better.
That's such an off to the side and minor thing. I really don't think its enough to stake a theory on here.

>Also Kris is shown to be Cyan in the Asgore's flashback.
And he was a different color in the Tenna flashback.

>I personally think him being not an original character but Frisk/Chara detracts from his character and makes him worse
He's an original character who's this universe's equivelent of Frisk and Chara. He's not the same person and more that Johnny Joestar is Johnathan Joestar or Gyro is Caesar.

Anyways this is all really off topic from the original question, which was what age the Oldentale characters would be in the Deltarune universe.

>>4024847
>Tenna flashback
Yeah, because it was in sepia

>Oldentale
Would Racter be as stressed if he wasn't conscripted into a war, or he is naturally like that?

>>4024849
>Would Racter be as stressed if he wasn't conscripted into a war,
Probably not as haplessly terrified as he is in Oldentale, but he'd still find something to stress over (or something would find him)

>>4024789
>>4024795
>>4024799
Good evening (it's almost 11 pm here by now) anon from your commenting style I'm guessing you are partners anon, right? I'm trying to recontextualize things in my mind based on your first point and while I see what you mean with her sounding more like a teacher, it's hard for me to get away from that mindset. It's probably how I would say things like that if I were in that situation, so it's a tad difficult to try and think differently.
The whole doctor debacle back and forth came about with me not really using Starlo for much in the story and a friend suggested him trying to pick at things from a 'civilian' (not trained combatand with experience) mindset and that was the easiest one I could think of where he could interject and try and make sense for himself.
>contractions
I'll keep it in mind. In other stories I wrote with her she talks way more lax, even taunting enemies like the smartass she can be at times, so I don't know why I didn't go for that style of speech. Probably because I felt this was a serious topic so she wouldn't be talking like some cheeky ass but I overcorrected.
>I did think it was interesting, and I can tell you've put a lot of thought into the setting Jackie comes from.
Thanks anon. Her's and Nahir's backstories are my most thought out from all of my characters. While not perfect, it's something I'm always thinking about (something something meme about oc lore in head vs written out). I could ramble on but since it's not connected to DR or UT I'm not gonna.
>even if our boy Clover is only around at the start
Boy, him being around for that conversation would definitely not have gone well for him. And I plopped in Ace because to me, he seems like the most level headed one of the four, maybe alongside Moray.
Either way anon, thank you for the feedback. I would love to talk more but I much prefer private convos which is sadly not possible, unless either of us finds the other one somehow.

>>4024875
>spoilers
actually I'm a different anon
this is the second time you've mistaken me for him
> I'm trying to recontextualize things in my mind based on your first point and while I see what you mean with her sounding more like a
I think it may be because you're thinking about what information "needs" to be conveyed rather than what the character might "want" to convey. Also in stories, long info dumps are generally avoided because you communicate these things gradually over the course of the story so admittedly, it's hard to avoid completely here since the point of this story -is- her talking about her backstory.
In a longer running story you might have people curious about her and ask her questions, which she answers in a way that's more brief, suited to the situation at that point in the story (since a longer story would be about more than telling her backstory most likely), and it would come up in different ways over time showing us more and more of what kind of person she is as the story goes on
>I'll keep it in mind. In other stories I wrote with her she talks way more lax, even taunting enemies like the smartass she can be at times, so I don't know why I didn't go for that style of speech. Probably because I felt this was a serious topic so she wouldn't be talking like some cheeky ass but I overcorrected.
that makes sense. If I remember right, english isn't your first language, so I'll say that contractions wont make her sound "cheeky" unless you start doing every word that you possibly can as a contraction.
for instance I can imagine Starlo going "would'ja" in a serious situation but a lot of other characters will come across as irreverent for doing that. Just something you'll want to experiment with over time.
>Ace because to me, he seems like the most level headed one of the four
yeah ace comes across as "mature" in a way that fits that.

>>4024875
>>4024887
>The whole doctor debacle back and forth came about with me not really using Starlo for much in the story and a friend suggested him trying to pick at things from a 'civilian' (not trained combatand with experience) mindset and that was the easiest one I could think of where he could interject and try and make sense for himself.
I think you could still do that while approaching it the way I suggested, by having Starlo as a civilian who has dealt with people in despair (a large part of why he put on the north star persona in the first place I believe) be the one who makes the connections between those inferences
> I would love to talk more but I much prefer private convos which is sadly not possible, unless either of us finds the other one somehow.
fair enough and I'll leave my feedback at that unless you have any more things you'd like to talk about. I'd say you're welcome to message me on ao3 but well, it's got no messaging feature.

Either way, you don't have to approach anything in the way I suggested, but it's still something to consider.

I was laying in bed just a bit ago when I suddenly jolted up as I had the idea of Reynault having a prosthetic arm with a detachable hand, like that fake hand prank you see people do sometimes, except his hand has an explosive charge built into it.
I feel like he'd like that sort of idea, maybe.

>>4024887
>spoiler
Goddamnit, I remember doing that now and I can't remember which anon you are, unless that wasn't said back then. If it was, then I apologize anon for my lack of memory.
Yeah, if I ever get around to writing the longer story with UTY and UT cast featuring her and Nahir, it wouldn't be this info dump-y, provided there's opportunity in there for some nuggest of past.
>Esl
You are correct in that but regardless, I should be better and thank you for your feedback, or anyone's feedback I just hope to remember to use it.
>I think you could still do that while approaching it the way I suggested, by having Starlo as a civilian who has dealt with people in despair (a large part of why he put on the north star persona in the first place I believe) be the one who makes the connections between those inferences
Could be but from what I know of Starlo, he could still have some naivete in regards of topics like this. Sure, he did his best (and arguably not a bad job) at keeping people's spirits (also why I decided to have him offer to learn some of the songs) but by at large, he would probably not have a grasp on the logistics and hows/whys of things that might be apparent to people like Gerson or Undyne.
>I'd say you're welcome to message me on ao3 but well, it's got no messaging feature.
Never implementing a useful feature, that's for sure. I would say which server I can be found in but at the same time I'm also afraid of revealing too much. The bane of my existence.

>>4024905
>Goddamnit, I remember doing that now and I can't remember which anon you are, unless that wasn't said back then. If it was, then I apologize anon for my lack of memory.
you're good anon, I'm not offended. My identity wasn't particularly relevant, it just was kind of funny to me that it happened again.
I'll need the name you want this story saved under if you don't mind sometime
>>Esl
>You are correct in that but regardless, I should be better and thank you for your feedback, or anyone's feedback I just hope to remember to use it.
I know ESL get's used as an insult on this site a lot, so I hope it didn't come across as deriding when I brought that up. I just didn't know if something like that might carry a different tone in another language.
>but by at large, he would probably not have a grasp on the logistics and hows/whys of things that might be apparent to people like Gerson or Undyne.
oh yeah I don't think he'd actually grasp the logistics of it on a grand scale. Just was thinking that maybe his reaction to the staggering nature of it could be used in a way to get the message across.
>I would say which server I can be found in but at the same time I'm also afraid of revealing too much. The bane of my existence.
yeah I'm not gonna suggest that such information be revealed. Even things like my ao3 are very far separated from my identity. Fucking hell, they used to teach people to keep their identity safe on the internet you know? Now you've got people making accounts under their real names and spreading that around.

>>4024904
that flashbanged me with a memory, when I was younger our dad got the original deathrace movie for us all to watch, possibly forgetting how violent it was since it's also an extremely cheesy movie at times.
at one point it's revealed that the main racer has a "hand grenade", literally just a grenade fused into his prosthetic hand
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZSoIhvOiXFNGu1DHXzUk4YVWAY1p8QKcjOruiTfsZxaR2_ItAsOiwwT5R&s=10

I don't know how reynault would be about violent movies but he might get a kick out of this.

>>4024912
>at one point it's revealed that the main racer has a "hand grenade", literally just a grenade fused into his prosthetic hand
Huh, neat. I was imagining something a little less conspicuous though, a bit less noticeable.
>I don't know how reynault would be about violent movies but he might get a kick out of this.
I feel like he may not like violence for violence's sake, but he would like it if it was comedic enough.
I'm sure Oldentale anon will correct me on that somehow though, but I just get the idea that Reynault wouldn't find violence entertaining unless it was set up and executed according to certain specific standards.

>>4024915
>Huh, neat. I was imagining something a little less conspicuous though, a bit less noticeable.
he wears a glove over it in the movie if I remember right. it's a bit silly but it's part of his plot to assasinate the president who makes the death race happen from what I remember.
>but I just get the idea that Reynault wouldn't find violence entertaining unless it was set up and executed according to certain specific standards.

>him watching the movie with you, bored out of his mind until the part where the death racers run over the nurses instead of the people the nurses set in the road to get run over to kill them with an ironic twist
>he starts talking about how the movie itself would be so much better if it was filled with more twists like that
>then frankenstein reveals his "hand grenade" which makes him howl with laughter.

>>4024917
>he wears a glove over it in the movie if I remember right. it's a bit silly but it's part of his plot to assasinate the president who makes the death race happen from what I remember.
Ah, I see.
Well, if it's stupid, but it works, then it isn't stupid, I suppose.
>green
I like that, that's cute.

>>4024904
I think the detachable hand would be Reynault's most used the prank, everytime he does it he changes what's inside it. sometimes its an explosive charge. other times is glue and other is nothing, the last one is meant for people who already expects his jokes, maybe it has some delayed effect or it doesn't do anything, leaving the target of the joke paranoid would be the point

>>4024924
Hm, the hand would need to have some kind of opening on the palm or fingers in order for the glue one to really be effective, if having the hand stuck to another person's hand is the goal, anyway.
But yeah, I could see him doing stuff like that.

>>4024928
>Hm, the hand would need to have some kind of opening on the palm or fingers in order for the glue one to really be effective,
maybe it's rigged to something near his shoulder so that when his arm is pulled away from him, a contrary rope is pulled opening that hand compartment while squeezing the glue compartment

>>4024910
>spoiler
It's you! Also uhh, I'm not really sure if it's worthy of going there, anon.
>ESL
Nah don't worry, you absolutely didn't offend me at all with that.
>reaction
Yeah that also makes sense.
>ao3
Yeah that's gonna be a thing isn't it? I'm not sure whether to make a new account on it when I'll eventually start posting Shattered Gold or just hope for the best.

>>4024936
Sounds a little more complicated than necessary, if I'm honest.
Besides, Oldentale anon's said that his prosthetics are effectively controlled on the inside, by some kind of tiny magic projectiles that move the internal mechanisms, rather than the mechanisms being intertwined with each other, so something like this could probably just be designed to be manipulated internally like that also, making it less complicated and less prone to failure.
I really do need to get around to doing that study before I run out of time again, maybe sometime next week.

>>4024937
>I'm not really sure if it's worthy of going there, anon.
if you're not comfortable with this one going on there I can hold off this time, but I was planning on archiving it. You kept it fangame related with the characters you included, and you've definitely been improving your technical skill.
>I'm not sure whether to make a new account on it when I'll eventually start posting Shattered Gold or just hope for the best.
you never know how people are going to react to things when you upload them there. If you're saying you have an existing account tied to names, you can always make a new one if the thought of your username getting around makes you anxious

>>4024938
>Sounds a little more complicated than necessary, if I'm honest.
maybe so, I don't know how else something like that would activate other than well, through magic as you mentioned. Would be real handy (heh) to have a compartment you can open at will in your hand for random uses though. especially for someone like him.

>>4024942
>I was planning on archiving it.
The thought makes me feel fuzzy. If you want to, you could do it but no pressure.
>anxious
A tad, perhaps. Like I might habe already said too much but I don't really think (I hope) that anons I interact here would actively do malicious things? We'll see how I feel when its time to start posting.

>>4024943
>maybe so, I don't know how else something like that would activate other than well, through magic as you mentioned.
Hm, I could imagine some internal mechanism confined to the hand itself, depending on the overall structure and size of it.
Maybe there's some kind of pressure-activated mechanism built into the palm that opens a compartment near it, at least for the glue one.
>Would be real handy (heh) to have a compartment you can open at will in your hand for random uses though. especially for someone like him.
Probably useful for sneaking things around, which I imagine he does often.

I set this drawing at a really stupid angle and I wanted the lighting to be coming from an implied TV or something off screen, and now I need to figure out how the hell the shadows would look at this angle with this setup, so now I have to load up Gmod so I can use the Source engine's light simulation for reference.
God I hate lighting.

>>4024953
>load up Gmod so I can use the Source engine's light simulation for reference.
I had no idea someone could use that to get a reference for lighting, but makes a lot of sense in retrospective.
Godspeed anon, you're on the finish line.

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>>4024959
>I had no idea someone could use that to get a reference for lighting, but makes a lot of sense in retrospective.
Source has a surprisingly good light simulation, and the ability to spawn basically whatever I want makes it pretty decent for this kind of thing, at least for solid objects.
Most of my screenshots in Gmod have looked something like this for the past few months, even if I don't play it as often as I used to back in the day.
>Godspeed anon, you're on the finish line.
Maybe, but god is it gonna be a long finish line.

the gaster umbrella man is gonna drag anon into the void

>>4024944
sounds good, I'll give it one of my generic names until you give it a name one day. I should have time this weekend to catch up on librarby uploads that I didn't have time for recently.

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>>4024971
Don't worry, I always bring some backup when I go into the Construct dark room.
Anyway, back to work.

>>4024968
when HL2 came out I remember how big a deal everyone made of it's physics. I should install gmod again sometime to fuck around with. It's a shame that there really aren't game releases that make you feel like "technology sure is advancing huh" anymore.

>>4024971
>gaster umbrella man
Is this a reference to something?

>>4024979
NTA, but I'm pretty sure he's talking about Interloper, some ARG horror story or something done with Source games.

>>4024977
>when HL2 came out I remember how big a deal everyone made of it's physics.
Honestly, I still think the Source engine is really cool.
Good physics has always been cooler to me than good graphics, I don't think any modern game engine has impressed me as much as Source has.
Except Source 2 I guess, but I think Source still wowed me more.
>It's a shame that there really aren't game releases that make you feel like "technology sure is advancing huh" anymore.
Yeah, everyone just seems focused on that "raytracing" stuff, or AI crap these days.

>>4024982
raytracing also seems to have stuck around for an oddly long time as "the advancement".
I think vr could have been fun, but I think facebook buying out occulus threw that hope into the grave really quickly. HL alyx was neat but overall that felt like it kneecapped things really badly.

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As embarrassing as it is, I'm seriously considering writing down or making diagrams of the undertale/deltarune yellow characters that I've been thinking about over and over before it gets lost in the whirlwind of thought again. Right now I'm thinking about different spins and motives on the personalities of the DR:Y lightners, and how deep the interpersonal relationships would go if the 3 humans (Kris, Cole, Melody) ended up living in Hometown at certain points in time.

>>4024987
Do it. Let the autism flow through you.

>>4024987
>As embarrassing as it is
Doesn't sound embarrassing to me.
Doesn't even sound as embarrassing as the average thing that goes through some other anon's brains, frankly.
Go for it.

>>4024987
Depend on when they would appear in Kris's life. Perhaps he would not feel so distant from everybody, him feeling not like a monster nor a human in DR.

>>4024986
Yeah, I think VR could've been neat, but I think it was really only ever going to be a novelty compared to mainstream gaming stuff, most of the stuff VR does is at best a sidegrade to the kind of stuff we can do with games at this point, it's not like the technological leap we had back in the 90s and 2000s that allowed us to make games that were direct evolutions of what came before.

>>4024998
The real issue VR is that it makes you really dizzy, and it takes a lot of time to set up your room and stuff. Just to play for a bit, since it's hard on the eyes too. It's easier to just boot-up your PC and instantly play whatever you want and not deal with a headache.

>>4024998
>but I think it was really only ever going to be a novelty compared to mainstream gaming stuff
probably, but I think that we could have still gotten a lot of cool stuff in it. vr headsets are finally getting not miserable to wear, but the software just doesn't exist for the most part beyond some novelty things and "explore this world that someone with too much time on their hands created" which is admittedly cool, but not the potential it could have had.
>t's not like the technological leap we had back in the 90s and 2000s that allowed us to make games that were direct evolutions of what came before
that's true aside from I'd say things like simulator games which basically have begged for VR to exist.
I do really like when someone recreates a gameworld in vr because going around in those is actually pretty neat. I think there's a few for ut/dr.
>>4025002
ah the unfortunate failings of the flesh. I was fortunate enough to not have that issue, but I know it's one of those things that just fully removes desire to play from some people.

>>4025002
Yeah, that's fair.
I myself don't have too much experience with VR, though I did get to try it out for a bit while touring an engineering lab once, where they had a Vive set up with some software that lets you see all the internals of an engine spread out to show you how it works. I think the future of VR is probably mostly going to be niche things like that, super specific uses rather than being a really mainstream option for entertainment, unless there are a whole lot of breakthroughs with it.

>>4024986
>>4024998
VR is a gimmick, it was never going to compete with non VR games, there are too many game genres that just don't work with it

>>4025005
>fortunate not to have that issue
Have you tried playing Boneworks?

>>4025009
no but I should. Hyper dash was honestly extremely fun before it died. I haven't been as motivated to mess with my headset since.
Into the radius was also cool but it was basically just vr stalker. Hyper dash was one of the few games I gave a shot that took advantage of the idea.

I might hook the junkheap up again sometime to see if I can find one of those ut/dr worlds to walk around in, something about that is just cozy.

>>4025012
>ut/dr worlds
Surprised nobody made Deltarune but in VR game

>>4025015
I know I've seen screenshots of at least chapter 1 mapped out in vr, though it's probably for chat room purposes.

>>4025008
>VR is a gimmick
true, but gimmicks can be fun and can do well enough to justify a niche. HOTAS are a good example of that. you don't NEED a hotas for any game but they are cool as hell for people into them and they enhance the experience for people into that.

>>4025023
To be fair VR is way way more versatile than that

>>4025018
No, not actually Deltarune but something that is inspired by it.

>>4025027
that supports what I'm saying then. it's something that could have held a stronger niche than it does. If quality hotas and games that use them are a thing, then surely there's enough to support a corner of gaming for vr. I mean it's not dead but it's not what it could have been.
>>4025028
I really think that a lot of the potential devs for the vr scene in general fled when facebook got involved.They took the big name and put it into their closed eco system, making games be exclusives to their headsets, and only a small subset of their headsets even, splintering an already small community.

>>4025031
>that supports what I'm saying then
Yeah, I was agreeing with you
>Facebook
Did AI save them from the complete and total embarrassment that is their Meta flop?

I wonder what's the new shiny thing they will hop onto after AI

>>4025037
>Yeah, I was agreeing with you
sorry I meant it as a "ah yeah that strengthens this doesn't it."
>Did AI save them from the complete and total embarrassment that is their Meta flop?
I haven't heard of a single company making profit off of AI honestly. I can see LLMs being good for indexing certain kinds of data while not costing a lot, but I keep hearing news that everyone from the people buying the services to the people selling them are doing it at a loss.
I'm not sure what a company like facebook does to keep on going but I assume the large number of normalfags that doomscroll it gives them a lot of ad revenue at least.

>>4022227
I finally found time to sit down and read this. My thoughts have mostly been stated by other anons so I'll stick to other things, mostly world building.

>The gang was experts at using out-of-bounds areas to make royal guards lose track of them, a common practice among these types of criminals.
What exactly are "these types of criminals?" It is mentioned that their base is unexceptional and fit for low level criminals, but wouldn't the exceptional danger of using OOB zones weed out everyone who isn't a hardcore criminal? You could play with this, making OOB-based gangs a cut above the common, criminal rabble. I also think that OOB exploits would be closely guarded info by criminals, no? To the point that certain gangs might be known for certain tricks. Some of them might stand on wall collisions and take advantage of one-sided ceiling collisions to stage aerial ambushes. Others might have rope bridges hanging under the ground/above the void and pop out of the ground.

>Azupay bit onto a green bullet, his body sparkled with an emerald glow. The healing was insignificant, but
I would be very, very wary of allowing green magic to be self-applying, even at severely reduced rates, because you'll have to account for characters just hosing themselves down with their own green bullets. It will stop you from putting characters in danger from anything but catastrophic damage in most situations.

>Fireballs shaped as sickles
Thought of a little joke you could do with the name: "Flame-sickles. Not to be confused with Flame-Sicles (tm), one of her favorite treats."

>>4022950
Thank you for recommending me, and for the compliment. If, by chance you're the same anon who suggested I polish up the battle with Guardener, then I'd like to know if those edits left anything to be desired. I ended up taking the draft straight to Ao3 because of time pressures.

>>4023381
Thanks for giving it a chance, and I hope you enjoy your time with it. Also, I'm a bit tardy to the party, but I'd also like to throw my hat into the ring as an editor.

>>4024875
>spoiler
Hello, Valravn Anon.
Trying to find time to read your rentry, but I will read it.

I thought about it for a while, and the talk about gamejolt in the previous thread makes it seem like a promising option for the private comms. As for Ao3, I don't know your exact situation, but I think you'd do fine there. Also, I've referred to my Ao3 account on every Partners upload and never had a malicious actor, so I think you're fine there, too.
(FYI, Ao3 links are treated as spam by the site, so you'll need to break up the link or state your pen name.)

>>4024887
>Starlo as a civilian who has dealt with people in despair (a large part of why he put on the north star persona in the first place I believe)
Our heads really do go to the same places, considering the oyajin conversation.

>>Fucking hell, they used to teach people to keep their identity safe on the internet you know?
This. I admittedly have a universal handle I like for multiplayer games (NOT my real name), but it is separate from my Ao3 handle, which is going to be separate from the NSFW Ao3.

>>4025044
Suckling on Luzma's flame-siclies...

>>4025050
her what?

>>4025050
Doesn't have the same ring as "whilkers" or "whilk-bags", if I'm honest.

>>4025054
Her fireosom, her whilk bags, her fire crackers

>>4025050
>>4025057
What if Luzma had to fight a group of criminals that can't stop commenting on how much they want to suck her whilkers?

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>>4025060
Wouldn't be the first time she's had a run-in with some odd ne'er-do-wells.

>>4025060
She must lend them her whilk of monster kindness

>>4025064
Shu would protect and save her...

>>4025060
I think she would get a bit of an ego boost from that, from knowing she's so attractive that it distracts people she's actively fighting, but would probably also be very annoyed very quickly if it went on too long.
Sexual harassment's no good.

>>4025064
fighting Luzma must be distracting with those things getting in the way

>>4025073
Would you shut up with that?

>>4025075
They do add to her hitbox a bit.

>>4025077
Shu(t) up? Well shucks, I shuld but it is shurly shunless

>>4025085
Really, would you just stop?
It stopped being funny when it got to the point where we can't even mention a character in these threads without you going off about how much you love Shu, it's just getting annoying.

>>4025080
>a bit.
That's the understatement of the century, they are the size of her head

>>4025092
>how much you love Shu,
It's not me but ok, if you wish

>>4024543
I really hope Deltatraveler's rebrand drop the idea of traveling to different fucking games like Earthbound, Zelda, fucking Toontown, etc. and just focus on Deltarune characters in Undertale and only Undertale, no shitty AU besides maybe Undertale Yellow.

>>4025124
Buddy, how much do you really think that's going to happen?

>>4025124
I'll take just AUs and no other games, maybe earthbound but even that's pushing it

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>>4025125
Considering how their scope got so large that they had to cut shit, it seems more probable than not.
>>4025126
The Underfell Sans shit was cringe as fuck, even worse than the Earthbound and other games.

>>4025124
>holy FUCKING SHIT Kris we need to go play cart surfers for coins so Ralsei can smoke WEED

>>4025127
>Considering how their scope got so large that they had to cut shit, it seems more probable than not.
You really think they've suddenly decided to reign themselves in and keep things grounded just because they changed their name a bit?
Man, maybe "Halo Studios" was onto something.

I decided to sketch out the shading for this image rather than doing it on the fly, and it's actually going by decently fast.
I think I may have made Bedo a bit too shiny though. Should Bedo be slightly shiny?
She's a slime monster, or at least a slimy monster, so I figure she'd be a little shinier than normal skin is, right?

>>4025045
>Thank you for recommending me, and for the compliment
of course, I enjoy it and it was very relevant to the topic at hand.
>by chance you're the same anon who suggested I polish up the battle with Guardener , then I'd like to know if those edits left anything to be desired. I ended up taking the draft straight to Ao3 because of time pressures.
Sorry I got side tracked on getting back to you on that. I went back and reread it just now to refresh myself. Everything is much clearer and I understand the scene significantly more than I did before.
It's a little awkward how they pass the buttons back and forth because it feels a bit slow for a moment, but I'm no longer left feeling like I'm missing something important. I realize now that I had actually missed the reason that clover was turning his soul around originally. I'm not sure you even changed anything about that line itself, but with everything going on in the writing originally I wasn't catching onto that.
>Our heads really do go to the same places, considering the oyajin conversation.
I've been giving that conversation a lot of thought. I attempted to apply something I learned from that discussion to my Ceroba lewd follow up I posted the other day, which may be a strange place to be applying lessons from that.
>This. I admittedly have a universal handle I like for multiplayer games (NOT my real name), but it is separate from my Ao3 handle, which is going to be
yeah it just feels like the right approach to things. it's 'safe'. though I admittedly just said fuck it and uploaded my lewd story under a pseud. Not sure if it was the right choice but fuck it.

>>4025135
Slime in games tends to be shiny, I say it fits her

>>4025138
Hm, fair enough.
I still oughta tone it down from the sketch I did, she looks like she's made of rubber right now.

>>4024564
>Or be made to wait, maybe I could just incapacitate her instead of killing her outright, though I don't think she'd be too happy about that.
Definitely not happy.
>I think she's drawing the line too short. Even if she saves a handful of kids in the short term, she's effectively ensuring the deaths of countless more in the long term, so her ideals are working against her here.
You're making me think things really hard now, but isn't that pretty much the same point at which MGR Raiden draws the line? If you took Luzma from UTN and placed her in MG then I think she would still have the same moral code, even if the world makes it nearly impossible to keep it that way, now if she were born in this world that could change, but at that point it would be like making an entirely new character.
>Shame. I'd certainly like not to have to kill her, but if she's not giving me a choice, I guess I'd do what I have to.
You could always knock her down, but that just delays the problem.

>>4025044
>What exactly are "these types of criminals?" It is mentioned that their base is unexceptional and fit for low level criminals, but wouldn't the exceptional danger of using OOB zones weed out everyone who isn't a hardcore criminal?
Criminals with more experience hide in OOB areas, sometimes there's only one monster in the gang that knows their way around an OOB, everyone else just follows their lead, so being part of one of these groups doesn't mean that every member is on the same level.
>You could play with this, making OOB-based gangs a cut above the common, criminal rabble. I also think that OOB exploits would be closely guarded info by criminals, no? To the point that certain gangs might be known for certain tricks. Some of them might stand on wall collisions and take advantage of one-sided ceiling collisions to stage aerial ambushes. Others might have rope bridges hanging under the ground/above the void and pop out of the ground.
I like your ideas, I would have liked to do something more during the second fight, but at the time all I could think of was Azupay taking advantage of his knowledge of which parts of the floor had collisions and which didn't.

>I would be very, very wary of allowing green magic to be self-applying, even at severely reduced rates, because you'll have to account for characters just hosing themselves down with their own green bullets. It will stop you from putting characters in danger from anything but catastrophic damage in most situations.
The text itself says that the healing was insignificant, like a plus one HP, the point was to heal his tongue, when used like that is more like dispelling a status effect instead of proper healing.

>Thought of a little joke you could do with the name: "Flame-sickles. Not to be confused with Flame-Sicles (tm), one of her favorite treats."
That's a bit funny, but I'm not sure if that would be the best moment to add a joke in the prose, it was nearly the climax of the fight.

>>4025173
>Definitely not happy.
Yeah, I figured.
>You're making me think things really hard now, but isn't that pretty much the same point at which MGR Raiden draws the line?
Kinda, yeah, but the ending shows us that he sorta embraces Armstrong's ideals anyway and keeps fighting the system, so even he came around eventually.
Not that we'll ever get to see what he does next, anyway.
>If you took Luzma from UTN and placed her in MG then I think she would still have the same moral code, even if the world makes it nearly impossible to keep it that way, now if she were born in this world that could change, but at that point it would be like making an entirely new character.
Yeah, fair.
>You could always knock her down, but that just delays the problem.
True, but there are other ways of keeping her down.
Hey, I've had the idea of being detained by my scrimblos thrown at me before, so what if I turn the tables this time to keep her from messing up the world even more? Seems fair to me.
If nanomachines or a similar system work on monsters, I could always just keep her as a biomort, kept in a coma while the nanomachines sustain her as she's unable to do anything until they're deactivated, like Solidus was.
Albeit, you know, with her body more intact, ideally.
No way she wouldn't be pissed about that, but it's a solution.

>>4025176
>No way she wouldn't be pissed about that, but it's a solution.
So your plan is to keep her in a coma until the system "gets fixed"?
Yeah, she's not going to like that, but I'm not sure what her reaction would be once she wakes up, if your plan succeeds.

>>4025192
>So your plan is to keep her in a coma until the system "gets fixed"?
Pretty sure they also did that to Big Boss himself in MGS4, and he wasn't looking too bad for a 79 year old.
>Yeah, she's not going to like that, but I'm not sure what her reaction would be once she wakes up, if your plan succeeds.
Oh, I figured she'd probably wake up and try and kill me on principle, for having gone through with the plan, and for having effectively kept her prisoner like that until now, I can't imagine a situation where she wouldn't just immediately go straight for the throat.
Which, honestly, is fair, that's a pretty fucked up thing to do to someone.
Still though, I figure she has to be at least grateful that I didn't kill her, and that the nanomachines stopped her body from decaying into nothing, she can't complain about that.

>>4025194
>Oh, I figured she'd probably wake up and try and kill me on principle, for having gone through with the plan, and for having effectively kept her prisoner like that until now, I can't imagine a situation where she wouldn't just immediately go straight for the throat.
She's going for the kill obviously, but I mean, depending on how long she's been on that state this is going to be a lot to take in.
>Still though, I figure she has to be at least grateful that I didn't kill her, and that the nanomachines stopped her body from decaying into nothing, she can't complain about that.
You did put her in a coma for an unspecified amount of time, all to stop her from changing the world in her own way. At the very least she would ask you why, why keep her alive for so long? Are you trying to prove a point?

>>4025199
>She's going for the kill obviously, but I mean, depending on how long she's been on that state this is going to be a lot to take in.
Well, tying this back into the completely absurd context we've been building so far, MGR takes place in 2018, and Armstrong was doing all that stuff to run for president, so it's gonna be at least two years just to really get things moving, since the next election would be 2020, assuming the United States hasn't deviated *too* much when it comes to presidential terms.
So, she'll be in that coma for a while, a few years at least, depending on how fast Armstrong does things.
>You did put her in a coma for an unspecified amount of time, all to stop her from changing the world in her own way.
To stop her from changing the world for the worse, I'd say.
>At the very least she would ask you why, why keep her alive for so long? Are you trying to prove a point?
I'd do it because I don't think she deserves to die, not over this. I disagree with her stance, and for the sake of the world, I couldn't let her act on it, but I can't blame her either. She's doing what she thinks is right, and in a better world, she would be right. There isn't really a point I'd be proving, and I wouldn't be rubbing her face in it after waking her up if things went according to plan.
If she wants to kill me after everything's said and done, that's her own prerogative, if she thinks I'd deserve it, but I'd let her walk away, if she wanted to.
I wouldn't expect her to think of me as anything other than a villain, but I wouldn't go out of my way to antagonize her, I couldn't really do that to her.
Even after all that, I'd still just like her to live.

>>4025201
This little story has gone off the rails, hasn't it?
>If she wants to kill me after everything's said and done, that's her own prerogative, if she thinks I'd deserve it, but I'd let her walk away, if she wanted to.
>I wouldn't expect her to think of me as anything other than a villain, but I wouldn't go out of my way to antagonize her, I couldn't really do that to her.
>Even after all that, I'd still just like her to live.
I think the fact that you spared her life would be the most conflicting to her, enough to make her laugh for how absurd it looks from her point of view. She might walk away, but only temporarily, even if your plan went perfectly, I don't know she would be willing to forgive what you did, or let you walk away from all the innocent blood that had be spilled for your goal to be fulfilled.

>>4025205
>This little story has gone off the rails, hasn't it?
Yeah, but it's funny, so it's fine.
Plus, it's on-topic, technically this is just a really roundabout character study.
>I think the fact that you spared her life would be the most conflicting to her, enough to make her laugh for how absurd it looks from her point of view.
Doesn't seem like a conflict to me. If she and I were to fight, she would be my opponent, not my enemy. I can oppose her without wanting her dead. I suppose from my perspective, as someone typing this out, it's just a preference of mine, but were I placed into this context directly, or if I had some kind of pre-existing relationship with her in this context, then I guess I'd have deeper reasons for keeping her alive, though there might be a tragic spin to things at that rate.
Even if she's laughing about it, I imagine it wouldn't be too long before she gets angry about what I did, that I was willing to kill so many to reach a certain end, but I drew the line at her. Bet that'd be fun for her to think about from time to time.
>She might walk away, but only temporarily, even if your plan went perfectly, I don't know she would be willing to forgive what you did, or let you walk away from all the innocent blood that had be spilled for your goal to be fulfilled.
I wouldn't expect her to forgive me, nor would I ask for such a thing. I know what I've done.
And hey, now that it's all over, it's not like killing me is much of a problem anymore, eh?
If she had won before, she'd be killing the chances for a better world. If she wins now, she's only killing a man.
Maybe I can let her have this one, if she wants it so badly.

>>4025212
Nta, but sometimes I consider the thought of "what if I was facing my favorite characters at my absolute worst." Both wondering how I'd react, and how they'd react. Perhaps a character knowing my worst secrets or if I failed a plan at their expense. I guess I'm curious where this would go if all of this played out, but with it turning out that armstrong was actually full of it, and you had just been another in a long like of people used for his ambitions. Im wondering how someone like Luzma might react finding out as she's woken from the coma, about your plans and intentions from that circumstance.

Assuming that, in the face of something like that, you wouldn't give up on your original goal, I wonder how that could play out. Maybe shed laugh cry and scream all the same, but would she have it in her to claw her way to her own goal again here? Would she even attack you?

>>4025228
>Nta, but sometimes I consider the thought of "what if I was facing my favorite characters at my absolute worst." Both wondering how I'd react, and how they'd react.
Yeah, I do that a lot too, I've imagined some pretty messed up scenarios with the various scrimblos I've gathered from here.
It's fun.
>I guess I'm curious where this would go if all of this played out, but with it turning out that armstrong was actually full of it, and you had just been another in a long like of people used for his ambitions.
Aw, that'd be a downer, after I trusted him and everything?
Darn.
>Im wondering how someone like Luzma might react finding out as she's woken from the coma, about your plans and intentions from that circumstance.
Well, I guess she becomes a contingency plan then. Maybe not too much of one, if I beat her before, but you know, she'd be useful.
Probably have a hell of a time waking her, having to greet her with "So, about all that stuff I had planned-", trying to get a word in and apologize before she rips me to shreds.
>Assuming that, in the face of something like that, you wouldn't give up on your original goal, I wonder how that could play out.
Well, if we've both been given the short end of the stick, we may as well work together, eh?
Maybe I'd have to convince her not to kill me before killing the person actually responsible for all this, that might be trouble.
>Maybe shed laugh cry and scream all the same, but would she have it in her to claw her way to her own goal again here? Would she even attack you?
Well, I'd certainly hope she'd have the energy to not just give up after all that.
Think she'd accept an apology, if I admitted I was wrong?
I think Naranjadev said she'd have a certain respect for people who truly believe in what they're fighting for, even if she disagrees with it, so she can't hold it *too* much against me, can she?

>>4025236
>Yeah, I do that a lot too, I've imagined some pretty messed up scenarios with the various scrimblos I've gathered from here.
>It's fun.
fun is certainly a word that you could use. I suppose. I found myself in an autistic rabbit hole the other day imagining if Martlet was in a situation where she thought she had to kill me.
>Aw, that'd be a downer, after I trusted him and everything?
hey even the best bets have a chance of falling through right?
>Well, I guess she becomes a contingency plan then. Maybe not too much of one, if I beat her before, but you know, she'd be useful.
she might be able to say something similar about you if you think about it. From where she's standing, you're not much better off for your hypothetical failure.
>I think Naranjadev said she'd have a certain respect for people who truly believe in what they're fighting for, even if she disagrees with it, so she can't hold it *too* much against me, can she?
my gut feeling says she'd probably not kill you at your lowest, but that she wouldn't accept your apology either? Maybe she'd wake up, try to attack you, then stop as you explained and just stare at you, before eventually laughing her head off and leaving without a word. She's probably conflicted on what to do now herself since clearly neither of you were enough to accomplish your goals on your own evidently. She'd probably need to 'brood' over this one for a bit.
Maybe she could respect that you really clearly believed in what you were doing if you were crazy enough to wake her back up after failing, but I have a feeling it would take more than an apology to get her to work with you after that.

Hmm, what if she left to train, telling you to kick rocks, only to dramatically show up again as you were fighting a losing battle. Maybe she'd part ways again, saying she hasn't forgiven you but... maybe if you keep fighting for what you believe like a maniac, you'll cross paths again.

>>4024972
Appreciate it, anon. Sorry I had to pass out

>>4025254
All good anon, tons of time zones and sleep schedules around here.

>>4025045
Trying to find time to read your rentry, but I will read it.
Take your time anon. I'm in no rush and the other anon already gave some useful pointers toi.
As for gamejolt, I guess it could be a way? I could make a profile there for discussion even tho I never used the site.
And for ao3 name, it's definitely not my real name but I use variations of it, or the same, on other platforms, so it would be really easy to track me down on non facebook socials.

>>4025260
And from your convo and the talks before, I should give the roba lewd a read. I do plenty of that myself but I think it involves way different topics.

>>4025273
oh, yeah I'd be glad if you gave it a read anon!
I'm gonna have time to proofread it tomorrow but I did a chapter 2 here in the previous thread
>4021646
it was a follow up to this one
https://rentry.org/rc9i7geh

>>4025281
shit, fucked up the link
>>4021646

>>4025283
While I don't really read other people's lewds, I'll give this ome a readover. Unfortunately I can't really promise I can give feedback like I get from anons because that craft is lost on me, but I'll try and give my thoughts. Sadly mine would not be fitting in these threads at all, both character and content wise lol.

>>4025291
>While I don't really read other people's lewds, I'll give this ome a readover. Unfortunately I can't really promise I can give feedback like I get from anons because that craft is lost on me, but I'll try and give my thoughts
I still appreciate you taking the time to give it a read. Occasionally the fox enters my brain like a fever dream and has to dance on the pages in some way or another.
>Sadly mine would not be fitting in these threads at all, both character
ah fair enough
>and content wise lol
well, if they were thread related I'd have no right to tell you not to post them, but I do appreciate your consideration for your fellow anons.

>>4025295
It's mostly my oc's boning or getting boned but I have tastes that when I mentioned one, a lot of anons here went up in flames just by reading that singular f starting word.
Who knows tho, maybe in the future I could write somethung for anons here, toned back down of course.

>>4025301
ahh that, well like I said, I have no right to tell you what to post, but at the very least, content warnings go a long way if you ever did.

>>4025304
Don't worry anon, it wouldn't contain any of that, given the visceral reaction just mentioning it got. I can be vanilla, just doesn't mean I'm really into that.
If I do end up writing something for here, I think it would involve a certain broody looking bird maybe even Jackie forma de full female [/spoilet] getting in on the fun I love.

>>4025308
Can't believe I fucked up the second spoiler. I fucking hate phone typing so much it's unreal.

>>4025311
you will carry this sin for 40 years or perhaps more. you will awaken late at night , haunted by memories of spoilet.

but nah I get what you're saying. Either way I'm curious to see what you'll write next

>>4025313
After I finish shatteres gold, the next longform thing would def be the one that my shared story was an epilogue to. But before starting that I might do a short casualties unknown where she finds one of them critters injured and helps it out. They deserve better.

>>4025248
>fun is certainly a word that you could use. I suppose.
I think it's fun, imagining all sorts of awful scenarios to explore.
>I found myself in an autistic rabbit hole the other day imagining if Martlet was in a situation where she thought she had to kill me.
Heh, nice, that's always a classic.
I forget the exact details I thought up, but I once thought of a scenario where I tried to permanently prevent anyone else from having the time powers from determination by keeping myself hooked up to a DT IV drip and sealing myself inside a secure facility, only for Ceroba to go looking for me after I sealed myself away and finding the bio-mechanical monstrosity I'd turned myself into.
Stuff like that's fun for me to imagine, I dunno.
>hey even the best bets have a chance of falling through right?
I suppose, just a shame.
>she might be able to say something similar about you if you think about it. From where she's standing, you're not much better off for your hypothetical failure.
Yes, but not for a lack of effort, I was just mislead in this scenario. If I beat her and had her in a coma for that long, then that means I'm still more capable than she was, if she lost to me.
>my gut feeling says she'd probably not kill you at your lowest, but that she wouldn't accept your apology either?
Hm, probably.
>She's probably conflicted on what to do now herself since clearly neither of you were enough to accomplish your goals on your own evidently. She'd probably need to 'brood' over this one for a bit.
Maybe she could respect that you really clearly believed in what you were doing if you were crazy enough to wake her back up after failing, but I have a feeling it would take more than an apology to get her to work with you after that.
Maybe I could convince her that if she already failed before, she wouldn't stand a chance trying again on her own?
I feel like she can't really argue with that.

>>4025248
>Hmm, what if she left to train, telling you to kick rocks, only to dramatically show up again as you were fighting a losing battle. Maybe she'd part ways again, saying she hasn't forgiven you but... maybe if you keep fighting for what you believe like a maniac, you'll cross paths again.
Hm, maybe.
I feel like if we actually managed to deal with this second problem, I might have had enough of fighting for one lifetime. Not like there'd be too much left to fight for anyway, may as well let the world build itself back up at that point.
Maybe she'll go on and kill me then if she still feels so strongly about it, meh.

>>4025316
>where she finds one of them critters injured and helps it out. They deserve better.
I know little about it other than that there are little creatures that suffer and it may be the authors fetish. I feel bad for them.
>After I finish shatteres gold, the next longform thing would def be the one that my shared story was an epilogue to
nice, I hope that goes well. I feel like being able to return to that after getting some experience with other settings through your uty writing will probably feel nice.

>>4025318
>I think it's fun, imagining all sorts of awful scenarios to explore.
it is honestly interesting,
>and finding the bio-mechanical monstrosity I'd turned myself into.
we're reaching levels of mad science previously thought impossible!
which well, is kind of what mad science is about I guess.
>If I beat her and had her in a coma for that long, then that means I'm still more capable than she was, if she lost to me.
yes, more capable than she was, but not than she will be! Surely she'll be much stronger after a training arc or eating some kind of new fangled super fuel
>Maybe I could convince her that if she already failed before, she wouldn't stand a chance trying again on her own?
>I feel like she can't really argue with that.
Possibly, but I still think she'd probably float off somewhere to get her thoughts in order. Probably ask herself questions like how she can tackle this problem while still being true to herself. She can't deny that she was too weak, but just immediately falling in line because of that is probably not in her character.
>I feel like if we actually managed to deal with this second problem, I might have had enough of fighting for one lifetime
ah well, I'd assume that the fight she stepped in on wasn't the final battle but if It was I guess things would change there.
I doubt she'd still want to kill you if she decided not to try killing you when she woke up. She seems too decisive to go back to that point after deciding against it before.

>>4025334
>it is honestly interesting,
See, sometimes shoving your favorite scrimblos into the torment nexus can be an enjoyable pastime.
>we're reaching levels of mad science previously thought impossible!
If I was with Ceroba, she'd probably constantly have to stop me from abusing magic-science mechanics to do something awful(ly brilliant) to myself like that.
But trust me, the results will be well worth any risk.
>yes, more capable than she was, but not than she will be! Surely she'll be much stronger after a training arc or eating some kind of new fangled super fuel
I have to imagine I'd have gotten something of a boost myself since then, if I've been doing my share of heavy lifting in all this. By which I mean killing people, but you know.
>She can't deny that she was too weak, but just immediately falling in line because of that is probably not in her character.
Yeah, she'd probably need a minute to process everything. Especially if it took a while before I actually woke her up, since I might've needed some time to decide on whether or not I felt like things hadn't gone as I'd hoped.
Can't have been more than like a decade though, probably.
>I doubt she'd still want to kill you if she decided not to try killing you when she woke up. She seems too decisive to go back to that point after deciding against it before.
Eh, fair enough.
Unless we found a cool new thing that would decide the fate of the world somehow and was therefore worth fighting over again, that'd probably do it.

>>4025328
It is a neat game, if stressful, trying to keep your lil guy alive through a brutal environment (something I can't do yet), but I do want to write a hopium filled story for at least one of them.
As for your second point, post ut and uty surface story woukd be interesting though I don't know if I can make it intricate.

Okay, I finished the Bedo image(s), and uh.
Shit.
Catbox is down.
Hm.
Well, fuck.

>>4025346
It has been doing that a lot lately, hasn't it? Try litterbox?

>>4025361
I'll give it a shot, it's just annoying that I have to use a more temporary file service for this.
I could also just wait for the thread later this weekend though too, I guess.

>>4025363
If we do one, yeah. Provided janny doesn't nuke it immediately. Also litterbox being more temporary is a thing I forgot. Means my pic with orange, mima and my gal is gone with the wind now.

>>4025364
We managed to get a good one by last time, I think we should be able to pull it off this time too. Hopefully.
Anyway, you could just repost your drawing once catbox is back online, I'm sure more people would like to be able to see it, I thought it was neat.

Oh shit it works now, give me a sec.

>>4025366
Oh you saw it? I know not many anons checked it out, as it eas just barely on topic but I enjoyed it. Drawing aurafarming orange was fun. Though now that I said that out loud, a part of me started to have some existential crisis about whether or not I find art fun. I definitely know I wanna do it, just so I could draw my ideas and stuff I wanna see. Hm, probably best I don't dwell on that.

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New Bedo image is done, along with an alt I made for myself because I felt like it.
Strictly speaking, in terms of what made me want to draw this initially, the alt was actually what came to mind first, I just ended up making the primary version more normal since I knew very few people would care for the initial idea I had.
Here's Bedo laying on a couch, nude, late at night: https://files.catbox.moe/7ilkdc.png
And here's the alt I made for myself: https://files.catbox.moe/pzhllw.png
I think I like this drawing more than my first real crack at her, even if I'm not quite used to drawing her full figure like this. I appreciate Naranjadev telling me about her eye colors in the previous thread, I think she looks good with more detailed eyes like this.
Or, eye, anyway, since you can only see the one.
I think her being mostly green looks a bit odd without too many other colors to contrast with it, but I guess that's only a problem when she's nude, so her design doesn't really have that issue normally, unless UTN is gonna have her naked at some point for some reason.
Also, I tried out a new brush for the lineart on this one, but I'm not sure it's particularly noticeable. I think I like it though, it seems good.

I'm not sure what my immediate next image will be. I want to do something with Ceroba again, but I don't have any super concrete ideas, other than maybe her tugging at her not-kemono to tease [you] or something like that. We'll see what happens.

For now, I hope this image is enjoyable, but I'd like to hear any thoughts on it you may have.

>>4025370
>Oh you saw it?
Yeah, but I don't think I said anything at the time.
>I know not many anons checked it out, as it eas just barely on topic but I enjoyed it.
Eh, I think base UTDR still sorta counts. It's the base which all the other stuff around here is built on, anyway, at least partially.
>Though now that I said that out loud, a part of me started to have some existential crisis about whether or not I find art fun. I definitely know I wanna do it, just so I could draw my ideas and stuff I wanna see. Hm, probably best I don't dwell on that.
Ah, that's something that crosses all of our minds at one point or another, with varying frequency.
I personally find drawing to be enjoyable, my feelings are largely due to reception. I understand if you may feel the same.

>>4025371
While I'll be upfront and say chubby girls are not for me in any capacity, I think you did well anon. Good work on the lighting and shading, and I think the perspective came iut really well too. I like her expressions a lot in both versions. All in all, good stuff man.

>>4025374
I like drawings, when I feel satisfied eith the outcome, it's just the process itself I'm left worried about. Because I know that doing something you don't have fun with is not advised as it can lead to burnout or you ending up hating it. But still, the idea of being able zo draw gals with massive tits and nice thighs drives me on. Also possibly cool sction stuff but that's long way off.

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minor SoJ glitch with you being able to walk around with this one text box on the screen

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still cant decide on how item reactions should be handled for the new UI. which one looks best?

>>4025385
bottom right, to get some extra space for words

>>4025385
Damn, that's a tough one. I def like the look of the bars being separated but whether aligned or not is difficult. It would make sense to have them be aligned but that would not make chronological sense in this case. But my vote is definitely on the separated bars for sure.

>>4025385
Bars separated looks like chat in an online game, unless you plan on them talking for multiple lines from one thing, I think that bars connected is better

Deltarune Friendless status?

>>4025407
this one?
https://gamejolt.com/games/deltarunefriendless/1077489
for what it is, its fun.
but i think the soulblazers FRIEND fight is a definitive version of what a FRIEND fight should look like. there's no way that cat is going to respect game rules.

>>4025410
I played it, but the author said the game wasn't completely finished yet? Especially the Fireshock Route.

>>4025371
Nice work with the lighting her breasts aren't as massive as they looked from your previous pics
I like how her belly is getting attention in the alt, that's hot her legs look great too, her expressions are good too
If you wanted to make the colors more varied maybe you could have given her darker nipples?

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>>4025390
i suppose it'd make more sense if i have the whole bar there.
part of my want for chronological ordering over aligned is that the latter can result in the reactions being rather spaced out in the later chapters.
if they were closer together i could get away with something like "kanako says the first thing, cole and sadie react to it", but not when rosa's saying the first thing and cole's responding.

reason why this is a persistent problem is because im going to keep party members not currently present selectable so that you can move equipment items off of them.
otherwise you'll just run into a problem where cole and kanako have a monopoly on the good shit while everyone else gets the worse generic items because you dont want to lose access to it when they leave.
im also not going to make the equipment automatically unequip since it'd make other party members feel temporary.
>>4025400
>Bars separated looks like chat in an online game
oh i like that idea actually.

>>4025385
I say go with the aligned bars connected, it takes the least space and it leaves no room for misunderstandings

>>4025452
>Nice work with the lighting her breasts aren't as massive as they looked from your previous pics
I don't think I made them any smaller. Maybe that's just how the WIP screenshots were cropped, I suppose.
Pretty sure her breasts are bigger here than the first time I drew them, anyway.
>I like how her belly is getting attention in the alt
Oh, nice, I didn't think anyone would really care for that one, due to its particular "subject matter", so to speak.
>that's hot her legs look great too, her expressions are good too
Glad those came out well.
>If you wanted to make the colors more varied maybe you could have given her darker nipples?
I thought about that at one point, but I never went through with it. Maybe I'll go back and try to add that in to see how it looks with proper shading and all, but for now, here's a quick edit I made of her with darker nipples: https://litter.catbox.moe/kkh9pwarcrr0db1p.png (catbox is fighting me again)
Probably wouldn't have hurt to give her a darker pussy either, but I'll see about doing all that next time I draw her.

>>4025453
I think you should just go with the image on the right then, if you want characters to respond in order, like a group chat

>>4025376
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback.

>>4025461
I apologize if the prefacing was rude of me, wasn't my intention. I really do think you did well even if the subject matter wasn't one I'm into.

>>4025467
Don't worry, it's fine, I just figured I should acknowledge the post somehow, I understand not necessarily being into it.

>>4025474
Okay then. I do also like the possible next pic idea you brought up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq-kqw2LmOU

Start at 08:30 for what happens when a Susellefag starts figuring out Noelle is in love with Kris...

Undertale Mod idea: Everything is the same, except there's another Flower with Flowey called Flowery, and he sucks out all the intimidation factor out of each Flowey scene, right down to the Asriel fight. I'll call it, Undertale Gold & Gold.

>>4025556
what does that have to do with fangames?

>>4024543
If anyone here is taking requests: https://postimg.cc/w1hvGnK7

>>4025453
Will you add an additional text to the name to differentiate it from DRY1 (like heir edition for example), or will you just leave it the same and hope people uninitiated don't get confused?

>>4025584
Undertale Yellow but it's Flowery instead of Flowey.

>>4025635
that sounds like a great shitpost mod

>>4025635
Justice route would be pretty funny, how would Flowery's version of Flowey's crashout even go?

>>4024972
Nta, but maybe you should sort it under some separate category from the others. For posterity sake, in case these kinds of non-UT OC crossovers become more common.

>>4024979
Interloper ARG. Its made like a documentary series, and is about people examining some weird secret feature in a specific version of the source engine. One of the things in it is the umbrella man, which seems to activate after players observe that secret feature for too long, and removes them from the game.

>>4025664
>some weird secret feature in a specific version of the source engine
As fast as you can, type “DISCO” then hit tab and enter, to see a secret dance party mode

>>4025015
>>4025028
How would you expand the Deltarune "genre" with VR though? What generally makes these games so good is the writing, how they make characters that all feel real, the interplay of them making up what feels like a living, breathing world, and of course how all the meta elements play into that. Its a game that knows its a game, but feels real all the same.

What actual benefits could VR bring to the table there? What could it do that normal screens can't? Most of it centered on its writing, which would work even in a text only medium, so the only thing I can think of for VR is having your monster friends/waifus feel more real by having them stand in front of you, but that might backfire by letting you see the metaphorical seams in everything instead of letting your imagination fill in the blanks.

>>4025680
UT/DR VR porn game

Are we venturing into /v/ this weekend? I could try making the thread, but I got a warning for the Golden Hues thread I made last time. Not sure how much danger I'm in.

>>4025044
I thought it was his son healing him.

>>4024830
In the call in Hotland L3 Undyne says that the love is "fiery red" like a "cartoony human-heart". Papyrus responds saying that Undyne turns hearts green (confirming they are talking about the soul)

>>4025730
I could make the thread instead, but I'm not sure on what to use as a opening image

>>4025385
I think you should have the text boxes appear on screen in order of being spoken, while also being next to the portrait of the person speaking.

>>4025752
If you wanna be stealthy, you could use a picture of some kind of blue bird or a star fruit or something?

>>4025453
maybe try adding a colored line going from the person speaking's portrait to their dialogue

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>>4025612
yeah i'll probably do something like that once its time for me to release the demo.
>>4025782
no.

>>4025635
>>4025639
Flowery slowly but surely makes everyone hate him with his constant Gary Stu-ness and efforts to undermine every conflict with a bullshit fix. Pacifist ending is everyone teaming up to force him to fuck off.

>>4025651
Probably him breaking character and getting mad at Clover for refusing to accept any of the nice things he's offered, and instead going down this violent and destructive path no matter what. Probably ends with Flowery trying to fight Clover, and getting wasted because Clover's now got enough DT to ignore fake stats.

>>4025798
Flowery probably wouldn't enjoy Clover wanting to tear his oldbuddy limb from limb, so he'd try to get in the way only to get a JUSTICE BLAST right in the face.

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>>4025791
Not straight lines. You'd arrange them like you would well managed cables

>>4025803
what about when i've got 4+ party members and an item has a larger conversation? kinda defeats the point when four responses need to be handled.

>>4025807
I don't see why it would.

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>>4025810
well it kinda just becomes a mess when more responses are added.

>>4025677
There actually was a dance party in the ARG, though it was specifically something made in engine using the interlope function as part of some old add for some unreleased game or defunct forum, and it was what clued people into the existence of this interlope feature.

The whole thing is all about people investigating "bullshit" screenshots and "my dad works at nintendo" claims, and finding little grains of truth in them. There's even a whole side story about some kid who thinks his game is haunted, which is an obvious parody of those corny gmod ghost args, which the characters in the arg keep using as a source of clues for their investigation.

>>4025737
It could be argued that LOVE is just playing the game. It is the central mechanic of the game after all.

>>4025817
The only other options I can think of are displaying the text boxes one at a time in order so the player will know the chronological order while they're being spoken; or writing the dialogue so conversations are always spoken in the order the characters are listed (Cole always speaks first, Pedla always last). Anything else is simply too confusing to follow.

>>4025823
You can play the game without gaining any L(evel)o(f)V(iolenc)E though

>>4025828
thats the whole point of putting the character names there and coloring them.
>or writing the dialogue so conversations are always spoken in the order the characters are listed (Cole always speaks first, Pedla always last). Anything else is simply too confusing to follow.
and this is pretty explicitly the reason why i want chronologically ordered responses.

>>4025841
But the game still revolves around you doing everything in your power to avoid it. Every playthrough is defined by either the presence or lack of LOVE.

>>4025847
You either show love or LoVE to win in Ball Game. Because red soul's trait is love

>>4025844
>thats the whole point of putting the character names there and coloring them.
That's not enough. Its still confusing.

>and this is pretty explicitly the reason why i want chronologically ordered responses.
Do you understand what I said. If you were doing what I suggested, Cole (as in him specifically in every conversation he speaks in) would always have the first word in every conversation, followed by Kanako, then Sadie, then Gizmo, then Mylo, then Pedla. It would always be in that exact order. No one could speak earlier or later than in that exact order. That way everyone's dialogue would line up with their portraits.

If you understood that, then I don't understand what issue you have here.

>>4025854
And you still interact with love and LOVE in both extremes, either chasing or explicitly refusing it. LOVE and love are the two sides of BALL GAME.

>>4025859
But Ball Game is not about avoiding LOVE or not. If you avoid all LOVE you still won't win the Ball Game, as even if you spare them all you won't get the real ending until you do the 3 dates (show love)

>>4025872
To completely refuse all LOVE, you must do all three dates so you can encounter and spare the amalgams.

>>4025888
You can spare Asgore and leave the underground as lv1 with 0 exp.

Just because you avoided something, doesn't mean you LOVE them. You can flee from almost every enemy, and still get the true pacifist ending. You can get the pacifist neutral ending without pressing the SPARE button even once too.

>>4025900
>You can get the pacifist neutral ending without pressing the SPARE button even once too.
But not true pacifist
>You can flee from almost every enemy, and still get the true pacifist ending.
>almost
which means that you must spare to get the true pacifist ending

>>4025900
>You can get the pacifist neutral ending without pressing the SPARE button even once too.
What? Dont you have to use the spare button to avoid killing toriel?

>>4025907
In the true pacifist credits the name of monsters you spared is highlighted in yellow, if you didn't spare them, fleed from them, spared them from lowering their hp, or didn't fulfill their special goal then their name stays white.

Pretty sure the only monsters you have to SPARE, ironically enough are the amalgamtes (but they have special conditions when their names become yellow in the credits instead).

Or do you say that avoiding goop hell monsters makes you Violent?

>>4025920
If you miss your attack it still counts as a stall for the end of the fight.

>>4025926
Interesting, didn't know that

>>4025923
>Or do you say that avoiding goop hell monsters makes you Violent?
No, but it does make you less pacifist, thus less averse to LOVE

Also, to get the pacifist ending you have to spare all the bosses except Undyne (whom you flee from)

>>4025371
Man, two replies huh?
Guess that's consistent.

>>4025939
>Toriel
Ends the fight after you keep missing attacks (No spare button press)
>Papyrus
Ends the fight after you lose enough times (No spare button press)
>Undyne
You ran away (No spare button press)
>Mettaton EX
You increase his ratings until he explodes (No spare button press)
>Asgore
You can only defeat him by FIGHTing and don't have to spare him after (No spare button press)
>Flowey
Also don't have to spare him, and he skips it if you already did it (No spare button press)

>>4025857
>That's not enough. Its still confusing.
look im sorry but with the name, color, and bars being disconnected i just cant see how.
>Cole (as in him specifically in every conversation he speaks in) would always have the first word in every conversation, followed by Kanako, then Sadie, then Gizmo, then Mylo, then Pedla. It would always be in that exact order. No one could speak earlier or later than in that exact order. That way everyone's dialogue would line up with their portraits.
i get what you're saying here, im saying that its comedically limiting.
take violetta as a more extreme case for example, since she's the last one in the menu none of her reaction conversations could start with her, if i did what you're saying all of hers would be in a format of someone else asking a question and her responding to it. thats boring.

>>4025371
It looks good and I appreciate you taking the time to create something. But it's just not my thing so I don't know what to say.

>>4025953
>Ends the fight after you keep missing attacks
>Ends the fight after you lose enough times
You have a video of this?

>You can only defeat him by FIGHTing and don't have to spare him after
If you want to get the pacifist ending you do.

>>4025954
> i just cant see how.
I listed two methods. Either write everything in chronological order AND character name order. Or have only one dialogue box appear on screen at a time.

>thats boring.
You could make it work. The problem with the other method is that it simply can't work because the player can't read it properly. No joke will ever land if the player is perpetually reading the conversations in the wrong order and is always confused about what they're saying.

>>4025971
>You have a video of this?
>Toriel
It's literally the same as you normally spare but you miss your attacks instead
>Papyrus
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/15bez70/fun_fact_if_you_fail_papyrus_fight_3_times_you/

>If you want to get the true pacifist ending you do
No you don't? Flowey kills him anyway, and if you do spare him and flowey was already beaten then he just kills himself.

The real issue is the Doggo since you have to spare him and I am pretty you can't avoid him. Forgot about that...

>>4025961
It just kinda sucks, is all.
Spending as much time as I did to make something like that, just to be met with basically no reception.
I'm not gonna turn it into a big thing again since I know it's been discussed before, but it just makes it feel like it doesn't matter.
Just looks like it's true this time.

>>4025985
I could give out some criticisms and how I think it could be better, but I don't wanna discourage you. Especially since I am not even an artist myself.

It's just not Sig's level so it doesn't gain that much traction

>>4025985
>basically no reception.
Something I've been seeing a bit recently, with art and writing

>>4025994
But Luzma's story got a lot of replies? And I don't remember much art being posted recently. Wiki and Quetzali got some replies, it's not like you are going to argue for 1000 posts about that.

>>4025371
Nice titties, also like that you are trying a more dynamic pose/angle compared to your previous works

>>4025950
>>4025985
If you're doing it in order to get "reception" you're doing it wrong (besides there are like less than 50 people that frequent those threads and not all of them are interested in these characters)
Won't go on a sermon here to convince you but if you focus too much on numbers and engagement, this will just lead you to be unhappy with your art and eventually you will just stop drawing altogether
Sometimes it's better to just indulge and do art for yourself, sure it feels nice to get feedback from others but sometimes only you can make the art you crave

t. "former" artist with years long block only recently pondering that I should just start drawing again but for myself with the stuff I want and crave that no one else is doing

I totally forgot this post yesterday.
>>4025045
>I'm a bit tardy to the party, but I'd also like to throw my hat into the ring as an editor.
I already have two anons on it, but sure, why not, what's your Gamejolt account?

>>4025371
Nicely done anon, I like how you always pick different poses for your drawings, that and how it seems you're experimenting more with lighting.
>I think her being mostly green looks a bit odd without too many other colors to contrast with it, but I guess that's only a problem when she's nude
Yeah, not something I would have to worry about in game, I guess if you wanted to make her less green, your could add more "freckles" to the rest of her body, sea bunnies have those black dots all over them.
>Also, I tried out a new brush for the lineart on this one, but I'm not sure it's particularly noticeable. I think I like it though, it seems good.
I had the feeling something was slightly different with the lines, but I wasn't sure.

>>4025950
>>4025985
I understand the feeling of putting a lot of effort and getting little traction, but you shouldn't be feeling so discouraged, your latest Wiki drawing got a lot of replies from what I remember.

>>4025635
Wrong game, but the Shades of Justice guy made this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1267s6uRmno

Had a dream where I was in the future and "people who fight" had hp and stats like in undertale but played out in a fighting game. I know undertale didn't invent stats of course, but in this dream it was "hp like undertale". Probably because of the fics and conversations here recently.
I reached 0 hp and was able to keep fighting because I was subject to an experiment that had happened in the past that I came from from which everyone died at the age of 29 from, for some specific reason. It was interpreted in the dream as a DT overdose that I survived but a side effect of surviving was I went into the future. I remembered wanting to cry as I talked to the people from my past who were now gerson level old now. I don't have vidya dreams very often so it was funny in a way waking up and realizing i was comparing everything to undertale terms in the dream.
>>4025371
Heh, nice work anon.I can see that using the HL2 lighting did you a lot of good, and your love for her body comes through loud and clear.
I honestly thought the alt was going to be inspired by that conversation way back where you said you want to make out with her tummy before I clicked on it
>>4025985
You're just getting yourself into your own head. You've been getting more engagement on your recent images, even with this one appealing to more specific niches. I remember images of yours that only got 2-3 replies and this one got 7 and it hasn't even been 24 hours yet. Stop mentally sabotaging yourself when the world will do enough to fuck us up on its own accord.
I've posted things here and elsewhere that have gotten next to no engagement, it doesn't really mean anything. Sometimes people don't like what you like, and other times, like this time, you just have to give it time.

>>4025995
nta but, a good number of the replies you see are people following up their feedback (though a good number of people did read that story).
It seems pretty random but some rentry posted stories have gotten less attention than they used to. Likely has to do with threads moving a bit faster due to more posters, and a rentry link doesn't stand out all too much.
I feel like art, including that anons art, has been getting more engagement than before though. it was tragic going through the archives and seeing a drawfag post something and get literally 0 responses

>>4026066
>"people who fight"
For some reason this sounds ominous, but I'm gonna pretend its just an street fighter thing where a lot of random people have super natural powers with no further explanation.
>I reached 0 hp and was able to keep fighting because I was subject to an experiment that had happened in the past that I came from from which everyone died at the age of 29 from
Chujin's experiment was a success I see.
>a side effect of surviving was I went into the future.
How? like you just woke up in the future after reaching 0 HP or something?

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>>4026066
>You're just getting yourself into your own head. You've been getting more engagement on your recent images, even with this one appealing to more specific niches. I remember images of yours that only got 2-3 replies and this one got 7 and it hasn't even been 24 hours yet.
It's been hit or miss. The drawing only got more replies after that post I made pointing out how it only got two, and one of those replies *is* that same post anyway, so it took me bitching about it to draw more attention to it, seems like.
That, and an anon uploaded it to esix recently (which I do appreciate, whoever you are), and it doesn't seem to be too well-liked there either, and the same can be said for a lot of my work there lately. Hell, the other drawanons around here whose stuff gets posted over there run circles around me.
I don't wanna mope about this too much again, I really shouldn't have brought it up at all this time.

>>4026078
>get literally 0 responses
Maybe those are reposts?

And it's impressive Luzma story got as much traction as it got since it was somewhat super random? Especially on a character which doesn't even exist in game yet, also focusing on a new character who likely won't even appear at all.

>>4026086
>For some reason this sounds ominous, but I'm gonna pretend its just an street fighter thing where a lot of random people have super natural powers with no further explanation.
I remember that the world was in dire conditions. I wasn't more powerful than "the people who fight", but they couldn't beat me as long as I didn't yield to the pain. This was revealed in the dream when I was fighting glacious from killer instinct (I know it was him because I could vividly hear his theme). Everyone who sent me into the fight was placing all of their hopes and dreams on me, but I got my ass kicked. When the fight didn't end and my hp started going negative while I was still standing, everyone freaked out and it grabbed the attention of the government because the rules didn't strictly say I "had to stop fighting because I ran out of hp".
>Chujin's experiment was a success I see.
makes me want to write something but the idea isn't fully formed in my head. Something that would only make sense with the context of this dream probably.
>How? like you just woke up in the future after reaching 0 HP or something?
"everyone you know is dead except this person(s?), we have no idea how you're alive, everyone else that was involved in that experiment so long ago died when they reached 29, but here you are)" something like that.

hmm, Chujin being amazed and impressed that his experiment worked, but being conflicted at the agony the subject went through to win the fight despite being "effectively killed" mid fight.

>>4026087
Try to don't be so negative, your Martlet drawing did pretty well from what I've seen, comparing yourself to others all the time is the easiest way to feel miserable.

>>4026087
>The drawing only got more replies after that post I made pointing out how it only got two, and one of those replies *is* that same post anyway, so it took me bitching about it to draw more attention to it
Nah man, you're getting in your own head. that's all there is to it. I saw you posted them while I was out and about dealing with errands in public and I was unable to open the images up and actually look at them until I got home (I'm not opening ANY catbox in public. not happening)
Plus there was a conversation going on so worse case scenario, your post reminded people who missed it that there was a thing (I read every post that happens in these threads because I'm a fucking psycho, but a lot of people are weak and will not survive the winter, and don't go through everything that was posted).
this is just how things go when you post something when everyone is asleep. Last time you posted an image middle of the day, it got decent traction.
>Hell, the other drawanons around here whose stuff gets posted over there run circles around me.
comparing yourself to other artists is the mind killer
>I don't wanna mope about this too much again, I really shouldn't have brought it up at all this time.
I'll leave you be, but I AM right, and you ARE getting too much in your head about this.
I'm sitting on exactly 0 likes on something I'm really proud of. The will of the people is a fickle creature of little value.

anyways you are incapable of stealing from me the fact that I commented and gave my input of my own will and desire. I am an "elite gamer" like that, as the kids probably say.

>>4026098
>Maybe those are reposts?
maybe but the wording of the post made me think it was the first time in at least one instance.
>And it's impressive Luzma story got as much traction as it got since it was somewhat super random?
I think it got good response, I'm just measuring it by how much I feel like rentry posts were responded to when I first joined these threads. I do think they fall under the radar sometimes which is sad to see when it happens.

>>4026087
>The drawing only got more replies after that post I made pointing out how it only got two,
thats pretty normal from what I've seen in threads over the years, sometimes posts get buried but then someone replies to it hours later and then people check the reply to see where it came from and then reply to the post
most anons just look at the last few new posts so dont get discourage when your post gets buried (specially with this threads tendency to go on multi post multi hours giant paragraph tangents)

>>4026133
>ometimes posts get buried but then someone replies to it hours later and then people check the reply to see where it came from and then reply to the post
honestly this happens with completely regular posts that don't have any OC tied to them. There will be a post made early in the thread talking about something, someone finally responds to it which causes someone to get curious to go look and see "oh I'm actually interested in this."

>>4026100
alright yeah my brain is still doing this autism it seems
>opponents are sent forth more and more with the goal of causing anon to yield in fights with agonizing weapons, but it never works
>Chujin has been perfecting another serum, much less extreme but still important in how it supresses anons shock response while still trying to find a balance in how much adrenaline is in his system to keep him focused.
>they're a team in this dystopian future even if sometimes Chujin convinces himself Anon is just a tool to overthrow (the shadow government student council homeowners association).
>In Anons next fight fulgore just flat out shoves a laser powered arm through his chest halfway through the fight.
>anon still wins somehow, more because somehow fulgore can't "beat him"
>Anon spends the next week sobbing and wretching in pain as his body stitches itself back together.
>Chujin finds it both difficult to observe, and to look himself in the mirror as he tells himself that this is for the good of all.
this is dumb, I do not apologize.

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>>4025385
What are your thoughts on something like this?

>>4025680
Imagine you get to a point where you create a dark world, and the way you ACTed on the object in the LW influences their DW version, for example.

I don't know how it contradicts having good writing? You can definitely make vr characters feel even more real, you just got to program them be able to react to your shenanigans. Like if you stare at them for too long they will get weirded out. Maybe add a relationship meter that will encourage players who care about the characters to not mess around and take them seriously.
And the Deltarune characters don't really show their realness until Chapter 3 board game.
>What actual benefits could VR bring
Immersion and Novelty?. I didn't say that it has to be good, just surprised nobody tried to capitalize on DR's likeness.
You could definitely write something out of it, especially since regular DR also covers the topic of fiction.

>>4026176
I don't like it how the colored letters look

>>4026126
>comparing yourself to other artists is the mind killer
Not like I'm the only one comparing myself, but that's been discussed before.
There was even an anon just a little while ago after I brought this up this time who said the image wasn't being replied to or talked about because it wasn't on Signirsol's level, and yeah, he's right, it's not.
>I'm sitting on exactly 0 likes on something I'm really proud of. The will of the people is a fickle creature of little value.
I'm sorry to hear that, I hope it gets more attention.
I guess you're better at separating yourself from your work than I am.

>>4026183
>There was even an anon just a little while ago after I brought this up this time who said the image wasn't being replied to or talked about because it wasn't on Signirsol's level, and yeah, he's right, it's not.
other people are going to compare you to stuff, it's unavoidable since you can't control other people of course. You just got to do your best to put that kind of stuff out of mind and focus on your own improvement (something that the replies to your art have been noting lately I feel).
You're not alone in comparing yourself and beating yourself up at every possible angle, it's one of those things creators of all kinds have a habit of doing, but I will still encourage you to fight that and focus on the positive reception you've gotten.
>I'm sorry to hear that, I hope it gets more attention.
>I guess you're better at separating yourself from your work than I am.
don't get me wrong, I feel the sensation of disappointment and desire for recognition as anyone else does, but you have to practice letting that feeling of disappointment wash over you.
It's still gonna be there, but like I said, there's enough crushing miserable feelings brought upon us by the world as it is. It's a work in progress and something you have to actively check yourself on even when you want to claw and scream at the world, but it's important to remind yourself of.

I feel like this has to be something similar to what "eat the path" is supposed to mean. I still intend on playing it so maybe I missed the mark using that expression here.

>>4026183
NTA
>it wasn't on Signirsol's level, and yeah, he's right, it's not.
Anon, Signirsol has been drawing for over a decade, this is the dumbest comparison you can make, of course your art won't be on his level, I used to feel like shit too because I couldn't stop comparing myself with others (and I still do from time to time) but this isn't a healthy mindset to have, you should look at the other artists and get inspired, not discouraged.
And surprisingly, when Sig did that Sadie x Gizmo drawing he didn't get that many replies either, the art had to be reposted, sometimes the posts get ignored no matter the quality.

>>4026201
>Anon, Signirsol has been drawing for over a decade, this is the dumbest comparison you can make, of course your art won't be on his level
well, he was pointing it out because someone else said that to him.
Still agree, it's an unhealthy mindset and should be actively fought against.

Starfruit on the other board
It wants to talk about fanworks

>>4025991
Isn't there another drawanon here that's draws really good stuff, where it gets just as much traction as Sig?

>>4026244
what an odd thing to add on to this conversation.

>>4026247
He's right.
The unbirthing drawanon regularly gets dozens of replies, and hundreds of upvotes and favorites on esix.
Hell, I remember after his first Wiki drawings were uploaded, my own recent Wiki drawing got some more downvotes shortly after, while his was extremely popular, and they're both drawings of the same character no one knows about outside of these threads.
Bet you right now, when he draws some other UTN or OT characters, they'll blow mine right out of the water.
When stuff like that happens, it's impossible not to make comparisons.

>>4026259
fuck right off with this tearing yourself down shit.

>>4026262
Hell of a bedside manner you got there, but yeah, I didn't mean for this to go on so long.

>>4026183
>>4026201
>>4026204
one thing I sometimes like to do is go back to the earliest arts of an artist's gallery and compare how much they improved over the years
not everyone starts great, some people are faster than others, but what matters is that you keep trying, don't be discouraged because you don't get replies, it is sometimes better to be ignored/passed on than outright hated on

>>4026176
it was one of my original ideas but i had someone point to me before that the colored text can be a bit unreadable, and there are concerns with color blindness.

>>4026259
Don't beat yourself this hard anon, you're talking as if people here actively disliked your drawings, there's always going to be someone more popular than you, there's no point in tearing yourself down over this.

>>4026267
well you're saying things that are unhealthy, discouraging to yourself and to other artists. You're having a despair spiral over nothing when your latest piece got good feedback. it's in a way, insulting to the people who liked what you made.

Anyways I liked what you made and the inside of my skull is already a disaster enough for one afternoon.

Curious question, why is this drawanon called the unbirthing drawanon?
To my knowledge he's drawn a bunch of different art featuring different characters that doesn't have it from the requests he gets.
Am I missing something, or is because it just so happens the most popular art he's drawn by request has unbirthing in it?

>>4026283
Because he got popular from it. I think his first post was about it, or the first post where he revealed himself was about it

>>4026283
that's what he got "popular" for so that's the anon name he got

>>4026283
>>4026287
>>4026288
All his posts get spamed with an insane amount of unbirthing requests too, no doubt most of those come from the same anons

>>4026281
You're right, I'm sorry.
I don't have anything to contribute today, and I'm not about to risk dragging this over elsewhere, so I'll just withdraw for a while.
I'm sorry.

>>4026293
It got spammed because it became sort of a "meme". We had a like a thousand post argument chain about it

>>4026294
just try and relax, ease up on yourself a little. Have faith in the people that like what you do.

>>4026283
The drawanon actually refers to himself as the Martlet drawanon, that's what he calls himself.
As for the reason some refer to him as the unbirthing or pregnancy guy, it's because he can admittedly draw really good pregnacy art.
If you go on e6, every single one of the image requests he's drawn that features pregnancy has an enormous amount of faves and upvotes, with an image featuring Zenith Martlet being pregnant with Clover almost at 1000 upvotes.